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Notice in the foto second from the bottom Joe Turner is framed by Nazi and Amerikkan flags.

Exactly.

Good work.

That's Joe Turner, standing directly behind the skinhead with the nazi flag.

does anyone know what that white flag with what appears to be a bear on it means ?

also joe is walking not standing at the instant that picture was taken, but other pictures show him hanging out with them..

That's the State flag of California......

Does anyone know what flag it is with the red and white stripes and the blue square with white stars on it?

I'm over 1,000 miles away from there how would I know - I thought it might be another WN flag or something

The flag with the stars & stripes is the united snakes of america I think

I'm not much into symbolism so it could mean anything the holder wishes it to mean I suppose

the people holding them there appear to think it means they have some genetic or god-given right to oppress and exclude others who actually were there before they were but didn't have flags but totem poles perhaps..

Once again, Indy Media distorts and lies about the reality of what happened. The nazi a-holes showed up uninvited and attempted to hijack the efforts of SOS, who promptly left once these idiots stood behind us.

You can spin and distort the issue all you want - SOS and these nazi vermin are different entities. The nazis are little more than parasitic pests trying to advance their own hateful agenda and they used SOS to try and do it. It wont work. You can deal with these nazis as you see fit. We still consider YOU illegal alien-loving,socialist riff-raff the primary enemy of this country.

the infamous cross-eyed, inbred hillbilly CAT PATROL from SOS is the Nazi-lover holding the George Bush poster amongst his Aryan brothers in the following pic. It proves he's working with the "4th Reich"

click.....

http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/img_0187.jpg

> illegal alien-loving
> Nazi-lover

I see signs of an orgy - maybe


> inbred hillbilly

gee people call me that sometimes (just because of where I live)

and I'm Indian..

"Caught LYING Again" should be asking why the nazis chose to wave their flags on the SOS side of the street and not the other side.

Man, don't these geniuses watch history channel? Or A&E, didn't they learn what giant LOSERS the nazis turned out to be? Well, I guess there are the freaks and hopeless cases in the world and this is them.

SOS and NV are bonehead racist!

>>>You can spin and distort the issue all you want - SOS and these nazi vermin are different entities. The nazis are little more than parasitic pests trying to advance their own hateful agenda and they used SOS to try and do it. It wont work. You can deal with these nazis as you see fit. We still consider YOU illegal alien-loving,socialist riff-raff the primary enemy of this country.

No, it's *your* job to keep the Nazis away from your events. They *are* using the SOS as an organziing tool.

No, its not our job to keep the Nazis away. Fact is, they've already been told to keep away and they don't. Go look at the SOS website where they are clearly condemned by us. Whether you like it or not, the Nazis and other White Supremacist groups do in face have constitutional rights as we all do and they are using our efforts to promote themselves. They are not exactly happy with us either as they're bitter about us telling them we don't want to associate them with us. Out of spite, they took up a position directly behind us to smear us. At that point, we disbanded and the rally ended.

I don't expect integrity from any of you here so I am not looking for it. I post here to ensure that at least some vestige of truth is displayed for the benefit of outsiders who wander in.

And you do know that when the Nazi vermin saw the Indy Media vermin advancing toward them, they began to initiate a march to head you off and it was clear to the police they were prepared for a fight, which honestly would have been quite funny to watch. Nazis fighting Communists! Just like in WW2! For your sake the cops intervened.

Caught LYING Again writes:

> No, its not our job to keep the Nazis away.
> Fact is, they've already been told to keep
> away and they don't.

The Nazis don't stay away from SOS events because the leaders of that group quietly keep encouraging them to come to their functions as long as they don't flaunt their white supremacist views in public.

If that Nazis aren't wanted, why is Don Silva, a top spokesperson for SOS, taking family photographs with them?

If it was, he's really decided to come out.

then feel free to post dozens of pictures of SOS standing all by themselves WITHOUT nazi's around or next to or behind or HOLDING THE SOS BANNERS AND CARDS.

Since you are sooo sure of your facts you'll have no trouble coughing them up-

It's going to be funny seeing SOS at future protests running away as soon as the nazi's show up - which they ALWAYS DO

Whether in bed with nazis for public exposure or running and hiding preventing any recruitment - either way your cause is sunk..

gee I wonder what those SOS posters are ^

I suppose if I print my own California Drivers Licence and substitute my name with someone else's that makes me whoever I choose to be too...

If thats too complicated for you to follow, try this...

If i put on a rubber mask, depicting Che, Fidel, or Stalin... that means Im a good Communist too. (ACK!)

or imagine if you will...

A faded picture of FDR, Churchill, and Stalin-- because they were photographed together, can you assume that by their association, that they were all communists? Fascists? Sons of Liberty? Golf buddies?

What of images of Arafat, chairman of the PLO shaking hands with Rabin, The Prime Minister of Israel in 1993? Was Arafat really a friend of the head of the state of Israel? Were they chummy? Best buds?

Your selective photography proves nothing.

CHABV

all it proves is that a whole bunch of nazis attend SOS rallies...

"all it proves is that a whole bunch of nazis attend SOS rallies..."

Almost true.

All it proves is that some nazis *follow* the SOS rallies...

Dont worry, we will get you straightened out yet.

I'm not sure what this word-game proves but maybe you could read the following definitions and elucidate a little about what you were trying to say:

Attend: To be present at or to accompany as a circumstance or follow as a result.

Follow: To come or go after; proceed behind or to accept the guidance, command, or leadership of.

The nazis attend SOS rallies, it's plain and simple. And they bring printed signs and banners with the words save our state . org at the bottom and hold the banner with SOS members and talk about how SOS love's them on their message boards...

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/133017.php

Nazis SELECT to be standing with SOS

SOS SELECT to be standing with them

Nazis SELECT to hold SOS banners and posters

SOS SELECT to be photographed with nazis

Nazis SELECT to link to SOS's website

SOS SELECT to chit-chat with them

Where's theres smoke theres fire

SOS is the smoke and nazis are the fire

People of SOS are standing so close to the fire if nazis were actual fire you would be getting burned from the heat

Come to think of it - you ARE

If SOS and nazis can be seen UP CLOSE in the same frames over & over, at protest after protest no amount of whitewash or word games is going erase that burning image from the public's mind

Let's not forget a few threads back and in fact even above in this very thread SOS can be seen DEFENDING them

No one else tries to defend them, no one else SELECTS to stand with them - you won't be taking pictures of social justice protesters STANDING WITH NAZIS or NAZIS HOLDING OUR PROTEST SIGNS

And from the looks of it you won't be showing pictures of SOS standing alone without nazis "within spitting distance" either like Joe promises but the really funny part is even if true the result will be SOS & NAZIS duking it out for "sidewalk space"

Those will be some nice pictures but since SOS people are weenies they'll just run away ?

You know it's funny, here we are a group of white people proud of our ancestry and afriad for the future of our country and from the begining we are branded as nazis. Because we are young and some of us are a little to exited we have no real politcal stance?? We show up because we need as many people as possible out there trying to make a difference. It's okay for brown pride but not White Pride. You can label us all you want, you can say we're scum, but we are growing, and we will be at every event, rally, protest, gathering of any kind, and we will be proud!!!!

there seems to be some confusion about pride

with nazis that means hate toward other races and even people of the same race who are simply against race hate

that's "white pride"


whereas with brown/black/red/yellow pride it simply means while proud of our own race we accept and like other races too (multiculturalism) that the land belongs to EVERYONE or NO ONE and we all have equal right to be here

white pride's twisted version of it gives the word pride a bad name


please do keep showing up at SOSMM's protests so we can keep taking pictures or better yet video footage showing a timeline of SOSMM *not* running away at the first sign of nazi as they claim

I think it's great that the nazis show up at SOS rallies. They did more damage to Joe Turner's group in that one moment when they broke out the nazi flags in Laguna than all of our work counter-protesting them has done in months.

Keep up the good work Stormfront nazis! You guys rule!

And you run to the police. Little bump on the head from a little water bottle, and you cry to your congressman. Then you say...

"And you do know that when the Nazi vermin saw the Indy Media vermin advancing toward them, they began to initiate a march to head you off and it was clear to the police they were prepared for a fight, which honestly would have been quite funny to watch. Nazis fighting Communists! Just like in WW2! For your sake the cops intervened. "

HAHAHA My grandpa killed more Nazis in a day then these fools and you think WE need police protection. We do not start violence, but let a Nazi spit in my face, and well lets just say that I hope there aren’t any police around.

I will point out one thing though, something you are correct about. Communists or not, at least we still our on the right side. You would NEVER catch me working, taking pictures with, or even talking to a Nazi. You one the other hand are a true American, you would sell your mother into prostitution if you could get something out of it. That is why SOS made an agreement with the Nazis to be partners as long as they didn’t expose themselves (even in your forums you say that anyone is welcome as long as they don’t use the demonstration to promote nazism). Its not that you don’t want Nazis there, you just don’t want the bad PR when the people FIND OUT that you have nazis there. You have known for many weeks that Nazis were among you. If it were I that were in your shoes, I would have made it quite clear that they were not welcome, and not by say, “shhh don’t tell” I would have gotten in THEIR faces, and let the WORLD know that they weren’t welcome. You are either: sell outs to partner with nazis; racist nazis in hiding; or sissies that are to scared to stand up for what you believe in.

Occutegirl couldn’t even work with you, Nazis and the Jewish people can’t get along and it is SOS that attacked her. You SOSers make me sick!

They cry to their congressman about a water bottle and then take guns to the border to target migrants. And then the MM shoot 2 guys and the "real partiots" on the SOS board make jokes about it.

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3791&hl=cazamigrantes

It is a good idea NOT to call anyone. Even if we call Don Silva and nicely and ask him not to be racist anymore, you should NOT use this number.

Because no one will call, you don't need to remember *67, so he can't prank you......

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Oldpreach Posted on: Mar 12 2005, 01:01 AM
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Hey , if anyone sees this before the event, I will be arriving at 8:05 at the metrolonk station about 1 mile from the home depot. If anyone can pick me up from there, plz call me on my cell anytime after 5:30 am . 818-601-8407. Looking forward to finally meeting you guys ! -- Don.
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Also, because it is a cell phone, you should defiantly NOT call during peak hours.......

Even if he did post his # on a public forum, reposting it does nothing politically for the cause of migrants rights. Besides, it seems like OP kind of gets a kick out of all the attention her gets anyway.

SOS is in turmoil. As long as we make sure every newspaper in the area has pictures of the Nazi/SOSers, and we further expose them, it will help. But a multifaceted approach is always the best approach. I am not going to call him, but if others do, as long as they don't keep calling back, or say anything illegal, I don't see what the problem is. At least it sets a precedent for public racists. You team with the Nazis, and the people will take it personal. Of course, you lock someone in a camp, and gas them, which is personal too, so it isn't like people are doing anything these Nazis wouldn't do. In the end, we need SOS to disband, and my vote is for consistently turning up the heat until they give up. If we do the status quo, they will just learn to put up with counter demonstrations, and marginalize us. We need to stay goal orientated, and the goal is the total and complete destruction of the SOS organization. If people would have done this with the original Nazis, millions could have been spared.

What this proves to me after thinking about it for a few minutes is just how naive some SOSers are. I have no doubt that whoever posted the phone # on this thread probably was sitting on that information for some time.

OP was nuts to ever post personal information openly on a public forum but it just goes to demonstrate a lack of political savvy on his part. I'm sure he'd never do it now or ever again in the future.

Back in March when OP posted it I'm sure he never envisioned that the "indymedia hordes" would become such a big part of his life and he didn't consider what life with the "goons" would be like.

He started with blogs which he put his full name at the bottom of every post, then got on lgf and linked to one of his blogs, then was on the main IMC & here trolling

I back-tracked him to his blogs where he could still be seen saying word-for-word exactly the same things he was saying on here...

Don made the same mistake of failing to realize he could be back-tracked even to his very first post where he was more open and naive...

Too bad all of them aren't that dumb - we'd have all their info by now if they were..


Don was prob an internet newbie when he posted that - it's a common mistake people make when they first start surfin'

These people should really consider reading a few books- History Books. Everyone in this country is a product of immgration/emigration. Pilgrams, indentured servants, Africans, Italians, etc. But I guess there is not much time to engage in an intelligent activitiy when there is so much ignorance to parade.

Joey, you gotta blame Don Silva for inviting the neonazi to come to your defense in Laguna Beach.

According to Debbie Sattler, it was Joe who let them come.

It was don's userid though he was posting in stormfront. probably joey told don to invite them.

Oh look, there is Cliff May's friend Mark standing with the Nazis!!! You still pal around with him Jammer? Nice friend you have there, the blond kid in the pic.

Nope, haven't hung out with him in a long time. I first met him thru the Megadeth forums and at a concert and video shoot, so I was friends with him as a Megadeth fan. He's young and explained a hip hop phase he went thru. Then this german nazi stuff, probably cause of some bad peers. Before that I've had no experience dealing with the white pride crowd or whatever terms they go by but he knew I was half asian and didn't care, nor did he care that our friend was Mexican and black. Technically he doesn't even qualify for the National Alliance and said he was never a nazi. All I can do is hope he has some good friends to help him be good and not be in a bad crowd.

workers win verdict over nazis!!!

http://www.ocregister.com/news/city-site-lawsuit-1929594-ruling-laguna

from the Nazis/SoS website:
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Ghost:

We LOST Appeal in Laguna!

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Sad new..........

The appeal court ruled today in favor of Laguna Beach's illegal alien DLS..


We have options and we are looking into them.

In the meantime come visit us and drink some WINE! We all need to drown our sorrows.