CHICAGO -- The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation -- the New Deal-era government agency designed to restore confidence in the Great Depression-shattered banking system of the United States -- is now providing guidance to banks to protect themselves and their customers from spyware, the latest threat to the integrity of the banks, experts told UPI's The Web.



Millions of Americans, banking at institutions such as Wachovia and Bank of America, have had their private financial information stolen by hackers through spy software, downloaded unknowingly from the Internet. By Gene Koprowski

> had their private financial information stolen by hackers through spy software

Well actually by phishing attacks (a web surfer visits a hostile website which tricks the browser into redirecting to a site that pretends to be a bank or other trusted site which gets the surfer to enter personal data which the operator of the phishing site then uses to access the victim's account and steal their money)

Lately the attacks have been more bold, like E-bay recently had a hostile Icon on thier actual site which did this ;

http://news.netcraft.com/

Registered users of eBay's popular online auction web site must sign in using a username and password in order to participate in bidding and listing of items. A new style of phishing attack is exploiting flaws on the Sign In page and on another ancilliary page which results in victims being redirected to the fraudster's phishing site after they have logged in.

This particular attack starts off like many others, by sending thousands of emails that instruct victims to update their eBay account details by visiting a URL.

However, that is where the similarity ends, because the URL in this case *actually takes the victim to the genuine eBay Sign In page, hosted on signin.ebay.com.*

By including special parameters at the end of the URL, the fraudster has changed the behaviour of the Sign In page so that when a user successfully logs in, they will then be sent to the fraudster's phishing site via an open redirect *hosted on servlet.ebay.com.*



The victim is more likely to trust the contents of the fraudster's site, because they have arrived there as a result of *signing into eBay via a genuine eBay Sign In page.*

Because there is less reason to suspect anything is awry, the victim is more likely to surrender any sensitive details in the mistaken belief that they are really giving them to eBay.



> spy software

Spyware is now the biggest security problem on the 'net - the average computer is infected by dozens of spyware trojans

I recommend using AD-AWARE, and Spybot S&D to scan and clean your computer

Keep in mind that *just visiting* a hostile web page without protection can infect your computer via BHO's and that there are thousands of hostile websites.

Lately both spyware and worms have been found to be infected with virii - so not only do you get unwanted spyware as trojans and/or BHO's but *also* become infected by their payloads of virii.

New virii are introduced at the rate of about 80 per day so even an updated anti-virus utility will miss some of them. A better solution for trojan activity is to have your browsing box within a private IP network and use a proxy on the gateway along with a firewall

Turn off active-X, java, scripting, cookies and use an additional java filtering proxy like Proxomitron using a public proxy along with updated filters along with a blackhole HOSTS list for extra filtering and protection along with regular scans using AD-AWARE and Spybot S&D.

By doing these steps you will never see ad's and virtually never become infected by virii, worms, trojans, spyware or BHO's, plus web bugs will not be able to track you and trojans, spyware and BHO's will not be able to reveal your IP

This is the browser security I use (I also have specific IP's and sub-nets blocked at the firewall and over 4 million bad IP's blocked using another HOSTS file type utility on the gateway)

The UPI is a right wing spam thing. I've never read anything less than corporate junk on the stories they post, and have been hiding them regularly.

All the panic over spyware is justified, but the real problem is that it's legal and easy for companies to collect this information on you. The laws are far more restrictive in Europe.

Why run anything but open source where all the code is ' peer reviewed' for security etc. I love this linux system for all the applications - graphics word processing composing and such. It's a bit frisky, but it does have root control levels and good security settings at your own custom profile.

I know you've been hiding them (I regularly check the hidden posts)

I'll add a comment sometimes knowing it will be hidden if I think the subject is worth adding anything to

(sometimes I even add comments after it's already hidden)

being hidden is entirely your call of course so I merely take note of what is hidden and as above occassionally comment anyway

I've yet to object to anything that's been hidden and even if I did it's not important and doesn't matter of fact sometimes I wish more things were hidden than are :)

I did notice your stance already about companies data collection which you just reiterated above (before you mentioned "web bugs are good" or something) - for the record I strongly disagree and in fact do everything I can to prevent them from doing so - I always have.

I've gotten on the bad side of website owners for precisely that - objecting to them adding banner ad's one day without warning (no EULA) to the message board and a piece of software they called "free"

one morning ads started appearing..

I strongly objected and went about telling everyone *how to defeat and block the banner ads*

My specific objection was there was no EULA allowing them to pollute my enviroment (computer, desktop) with ad company data & tracking, that calling the software "free" was a lie - that it was really *adware* and that just such trickery and attitudes would lead to ad companies datamining becoming a big problem as we see today the out of control spyware & adware situation (I turned out to be right)

Spyware and ads are now infected with virii and being used to steal people's bank accounts, credit cards, etc

The problem has grown even bigger than I thought it would 5 years ago when this happened

Also in around 2002-3 they added *web bugs* to thier message board (which I had already boycotted due to thier reaction to my original objection but I was still ghosting/monitoring)

I raised the alarm about web bugs which they at first tried to lie about so I provided proof, and so on (from another board)

I was an early pioneer in the fight against web bugs too

You've specifically defended web bugs which places you squarely against my position as an avocate against them..

And now ad warehouse server's datamining above..

Luckly IMC charter strictly forbids banner ads, web bugs and other privacy violations as a condition of being part of the IMC network

I imagine if not you would advocate such things on here - perhaps as a revenue generating mechanism ?

(which was the webmaster's I went to war with intention - to cover the cost of BW, the main problem being they just unleashed it one day without warning after calling the software "free" with no license agreement reserving such rights)



Sheepdog - you're in love with a concept

That's a far cry from actual understanding and knowledge about the issues at hand (security-privacy)

For example you don't seem to realize your browser has privacy violating "features" totally apart from the underlying OS which is the actual topic here (Browser Helper Objects, Java, Scripting)

Open source has absolutely nothing to do with it - and the further risks of trojans and virii *also apply to Linux* - just not quite as common.

Ignorance and blind faith is never a substitute for understanding and *taking an active role* in ensuring your own security & privacy

The day will come when your browser and system does the unexpected/unexplained and while you can re-install sooner or later the problem will become too big to ignore

If you had any REAL concern in privacy and security you wouldn't be relying on blind faith to scrape by

I for example have all windows boxes yet I'm quite secure and know exactly what cookies & HTTP headers I'm allowing and *not* allowing as I surf as well as the IP

For example right now I'm allowing IMC's session cookies to fill in "Hex" for me and the X_FORWARDED_FOR header IS revealing our internet gateway IP to show - which Johnk has access to.. If he can see all headers I can even type him a secret message in some of them for him ro see -

REFERER "hi johnk heres my email address"

USER_AGENT "blablabla at blablabla dot org"

Your basking in ignorance and bragging about how you've allowed other's to do your thinking for you does not compare

I just woke up when I refreshed the page and missed your characterization of it being a *problem* while the 'legal here' words lead me to believe you supported it (along with the earlyer comment awhile back about web bugs)

I've yet to see any positive posts from UPI as well and seeing as they are merely rather ignorant pastes I usually ignore them however on one IMC (which gets very little traffic) I noticed posts by UPI are not only not hidden but featured on the front page in the upper right corner - not that it has any bearing here

the focus is immigration issues, local to where this IMC is, the community in LA, etc

Since I'm far away (although right smack in the Latino part of town which used to be the Black part of town and changed over the last 7 years I've been in my present location) I have little info or pic's to contribute to the cause and activities going on there

(I wish I lived at the border - I would broadcast toward Mexico and help people crossing) I can broadcast things of interest to Latino's here but due to the numbers we already have, there's already 3 or more full power stations serving that market (2 FM and 1 AM)

I do occasionally play Hispanic language shows but since I can't understand what's being said while my neighbors do, I worry about exactly what's being said..

So I stick to mostly material in english..

here's a crude rough map of my neighborhood ^

...that you would learn the difference between your and you're. But everyone has windows of vulnerability.

The browser you surf with is completely different from a security standpoint than the underlying operating system. And whether it's open source or not has no bearing when you sit behind a gateway with security applications running on it - which I realize you don't.

The reason I started doing so years ago is because I found no one machine when connected directly to the internet cannot be truely secure as far as browsing goes, so once this step is taken (being behind a secured gateway) the OS then has little role in determining security as the gateway's security treats the entire browsing machine as one object - OS and all.

Otherwise you have all the advantages of a widely used OS in selection of applications and utilities - many of the best and most useful are simply unavailable to the *nix world not to mention drivers - if you tend to aquire a lot of used hardware for free like I do, it's far far easyer to install it under windows while for *nix either drivers are not available or are hard to find or have to be custom compiled which makes installing hardware a real pain in the ass as opposed to under windows XP (for example) most often just plug it in and it *installs it'self within a matter of seconds automaticly*

Older versions of windows aren't quite as easy - often it requires a search on the 'net or popping in the install CD but the search is much easyer or the drivers included automaticly configure themselves most of the time.

Don't get me wrong

I've tried a few versions of Linux and BSD plus NDOS, and used to run other alien DOS'es (like TRS-DOS, L-DOS, LS-DOS, CP/M) and various BASIC's as well over the years, but when I tried windows 3.11 I rather liked it. I resisted upgrading to windows 95 at first but once I did I liked it even more (I still run it on a few boxes but nearly always 98se now) I didn't like millenium and never tried 2000/NT - jumped directly to XP for the most part.

XP is pretty damned good - quite stable, some boxes run for months without even being rebooted, never crashes, no Blue Screen Of Death (but with what I've learned about 9X versions I very rarely get BSOD anyway)

The networking in XP is actually BETTER than Linux as far as configuration goes (simple menus and nearly all changes happen within seconds without rebooting while in Linux you have to type cryptic and complicated command strings - *nix has always been counter-intuitive to me as an old school DOS man)

The main reason why I never employed Linux is once you read the fine print, you see it demands as much or more memory as windows does (might as well run windows then) plus it was always being compared to "fully loaded" windows which in the 9X days DID tend to run slow and have problems but I quickly learned to run stripped down windows which was MUCH better - so Linux didn't compare nearly as well anymore, and for the activities I do (networking) windows GUI is easyer to work with (if I wanted to type every network change as a command string I can just use NDOS which runs with FAR less memory and does most of the same things)

I actually ran NDOS on a few boxes that had no extended memory at all (286's) which no *nix can even do and they provided functionality like routers(NAT), servers(FTP), browsers(NET-TAMER)

So at the low end NDOS handles boxes *nix can't even run on and at the high end XP runs really well..

None of my boxes ever retained any *nix's because of this, although I did try them a few times.

I can be said to be an expert on win9X and a very advanced user on XP which I'm still tweaking and learning a bit

Although you claim otherwise as far as I can tell your not even a novice on Linux BUT I'm not really qualified to judge as I'm not even a novice myself, since I've shunned Linux for years - windows is a different story however - I specifically set about learning all there is to know about windows 9X then moved on to XP which I'm doing so now - I've got about 3 years of XP experience under my belt so far - of digging into system details and *very* heavyly into networking.

just a sugjestion... :>)

'your not even a novice on Linux' is a typical example.

It's annoying. Stop it. Pay attention to detail.

PS I have no saving graces being paranoid, rude and anal.

thank you.

If you keep sensitive information on any system with openings such as inductive taps without a great deal of signal to background masking you will always be open to security from about 13 acres of NAS 'puters. Codes work better than encryption. IMHO

codes ARE encryption - I just apply it as a streaming protocol (zebedee)

http://www.winton.org.uk/zebedee/

The main goals for Zebedee are to:

* Provide client and server functionality under both UNIX/Linux and Windows.

* Be easy to install, use and maintain with little or no configuration required.

* Have a small footprint, low wire protocol overhead and give significant traffic reduction by the use of compression.

* Use only algorithms that are either unpatented or for which the patent has expired.

* Be entirely free for commercial or non-commercial use and distributed under the term of the GNU General Public Licence (see LICENCE.txt for details).

For further information on how to use Zebedee see the file zebedee.html in the distribution (or the manual page for zebedee(1) under UNIX -- it is basically the same text). Example configuration files are also provided.

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As you can see zebedee can be used under Linux, however *I bet you can't figure out how to run it* - novice means for example you couldn't even say whether you have a windows emulator (which I had to figure out for you - indirectly because>) you also didn't know the difference between a media format and a player application - that's extremely novice

I re-author DVD's by manually hand editing the .IFO files, also hand code HTML - can produce web pages in a text editor from scratch (as opposed to a web page builder - a HTML editor/engine)

that's fairly advanced compared to not knowing the difference between WMV and a player to play it

Novice is kind actually - I know of young kids who know more than that about computers. Obviously you run Linux as a turnkey system and Linux is only a status symbol to brag on - as you were just doing above - trying to claim you're immune to security issues by the simple virture of using an open source OS when in fact as I pointed out the OS has nothing to do with it as these are browser issues so if you can view fancy smancy web pages (that use java and scripting) then you are at risk as well - it's those very features and bells & whistles that contain the security flaws...

Web bugs track you by *simply viewing them* no matter what browser you use, and usually they are INVISIBLE (1X1 pixel transparent GIF) you have to look at the source code (raw HTML the page is generated from) to even see them - as URL's and you don't find out they are bugs until you D/L them (to see the size and properties)

I bet you cannot understand raw HTML much less write your own by hand from scratch yet almost every web page you visit is based on it - what your browser shows you is NOT what the website is actually sending, your browser's HTML decoding engine is converting it to what you see

Then theres the HTTP header fields I talked about before and above, that HTML based applications use (not just browsers)

I dive deep into the complexities and learn the details for simple curiosity along with security concerns - just what nerds do in other words

Two people have an identical code books. The only two.

aaa= proceed

aab= halt

aac= terminate mission

aae=create diversion

codes are used to arrive at predetermined information and or directives and if reconfigured at each transmition, are closed to 3rd part interception.

Only repeated usages offer compromise.

Encryption is open by law.

Did you write this?

' fancy smancy web pages (that use java and scripting)'

That goes into my The Hex Files folder for sure....

This technology is a tool for me rather than a fetish unless it effects my work above programming or burning proms. Dude... glad you have such an intense focus on your hobbies and it's all good...

The web is my library. Now its properties are also that of a silent pulpit to advocate Sheepdogism and worry the weasels. Woof.

> identical code books. The only two.

provided you don't reuse the keyspace that's refered to as a one-time pad which can

be quite secure but there are many other concerns that need to be addressed to ensure it actually is like is the keyspace truely random, can it be reduced by statistical or differential analysis and can a plaintext attack be performed ?

How do you manage keys ?

Can the adversary access the text or symbols it decodes to or cause you to encode (encrypt) desired text ?

encryption is not as simple as it appears, even a one-time pad has multible vulnerabilities if not implimented correctly rendering it worse than useless



> fetish

no the knowledge neccessary for learning - nothing more or less



> The Hex Files folder



hahhaa that's funny you should mention that because I've opened a folder on you !

sheep 7-20-2005 9:02AM



> burning proms



hmmmmmmmmm not much that's done for these days - that narrows down what you're up to considerably !



> your hobbies

the fields of interest I have are more than hobby to me (although fetish is going overboard) for example I live in a nest of wires - literally

wires everywhere you look - all over the floor, even overhead running in trunks criss-crossing the rooms - everywhere, all outside, all round the building - dozens of them even running up to trees and other structures, across the street in 2 directions the same, on and along other buildings (for older optical element support)

You can tell when your getting close to me by the increasing density of wiring - and in the room I spend most of my time in there are literally hundreds of wires - like a nest or spiderweb with me like a spider in the center...

- that narrows down what you're up to considerably !-

No please don't do that.

Remember my rampant paranoia...

and

- I've opened a folder on you !

sheep 7-20-2005 9:02AM -

God no please, I beg you nooooo....Mr. Whizzard!!!!

What I do for a living. I dig ditches ( or large holes like swimming pools in other people's back yard ) between dishwashing and day labor plumbing jobs that I wait for outside the Employment Opportunity Center as I sing and dance for dimes to buy the next payment for this DSL service when I am not devising ways to rule the world and bring an era of Sheepdog's Rules of Order.

I thought you guys had already figured that out.

Except about the Sheepdog's Rules of Order thing.

no it's just me - my computer which is quite secure both electronicly and physically (I have 3 motion detectors, 4 cameras, and 5 microphones protecting the room it's in along with 8 other computers)

Re: lying about your income and activities

yes - near as I can tell you are living on retirement/pension/SS disability and have no job but thats just an educated guess - I haven't really done any *datamining* on you - why, do you think I should ?

if the dishwashing/prep and spraying, construction and other general labor was a jibe at me you should know I really have done those things

we were all young once

besides I was raised on a farm and I like physical activity - I even made a cross-country trip on a bicycle just for the hell of it averaging over 100 miles a day across 3 states (before I had an accident which ended my little adventure involving one of those metal gate poles at the bottom of a steep hill in the dark at a state park campground)

I'm not one to lie or make shit up...

Not even a small clue, Mr. Whizzard. Right now I'm designing/building a solar powered closed loop steam engine-generator system for rural applications. I'm looking at about 18 kW at full load during the day.

The trick on this design is to allow a stationary reflector to be able to provide focus, morning to evening - summer to winter on the collector.

you'll just say you were lying again

stationary reflector tracking -

obviously impossible

matter of fact to generate that much power at 65 % loss you would need tens of thousands of square feet of collection (because with a single monolithic reflector only a small % of the total area would be reflecting the sun at any one time) and other then by banks of solar cells which would be an ever bigger waste of time to convert to heat (steam) then back to electricity, the only way you can do it IS with a series of TRACKING mirrors all focusing via servomotor drives linked by computer onto a central collection point in order to raise the temp high enough to generate steam

hundreds of tracking servo mirrors mounted securely cost BIG money making such an investment viable only in a desert area as is already been done

either you're telling more fairy tales (extremely likely) or simply too stupid to even realize what you've described is beyond unpractical well into wild fantasy

I can conceptulize a reflector that could do that partially, but for the powerscale you've set, it would be HUGE and quite impractical - the series of smaller plane mirrors controlled by servo is the best design which engineers far smarter than you have already modelled designed and tested..

seems the only power solutions that interest you are flake one's

odd

and BTW you've never on your own presented any original clearly-from-your-own-mind evidence of ANY intelligent design, concept or idea



all you've ever offered is lies, games and pasted flake shit -

for the record...

Try a ( modified) toroid cutaway oriented towards the mean solar traverse.

You forgot about surface area in your linear rep.

> You forgot about surface area in your linear rep

no I simply couldn't graph it in 2-D - I mentioned modifying the reflector to account for it (there's two ways - I mentioned one - you the other)

basic engineering proves that *since the sun tracks across the sky* your reflector(s) must track as well OTHERWISE only a small percent of the total area of the reflector will focus the energy on the collector

and failing this the required surface area needs to be extremely large in order to achieve the power density needed to generate steam

NOT PRACTICAL

and with the amount of power your aiming for, under that restriction the required total surface area is *several tens of thousands* of square feet

the same materials/reflecting surface could be put to much better use by simply utilizing all of it - in other words if you WERE tracking only a few HUNDRED square feet of reflection area would be needed - which *while still expensive due to tracking mechanics* is still FAR better than the waste of a reflector nearly TEN TIMES THE SIZE for only the same power yield

this little game you play of pasting flake shit that other idiots make up and CALLING IT YOUR OWN IDEAS as a smokescreen for being supposidly smart/a programmer/an inventer is getting really old

1.) you claimed assembly programming when you don't even know the difference between a media format and an application

2.) claimed PROM burning then silently dropped it when I let you know how narrowly that confines your claimed activities

3.) claimed "designing and building" solar energy apparatus which are obviously impractical and the engineering basics I outline go in one ear and out the other while you attempt to divirt these basics by taunting about not showing a 3-D representation in 2-D

WHERE ARE YOUR PICTURES of this apparatus you're BUILDING

something tells me we're NEVER GOING TO SEE ANY

just more diversions and empty claims

I design and build electronic circuits and CAN SHOW YOU PICTURES RIGHT NOW of these circuits because they are right here in the room with me and I have a camera

You will have no problem taking a few snapshots of this solar collector YOU'RE BUILDING and posting here

right ?

I did say it was portable...

that was didn't.

This is a project using an existing structure of which there are hundreds, un used and abandoned through out the country, can you guess what they are?. And you want, a photo?

Sorry guy, you figure it out and sell it.

so "building" turns into "I have an idea"

When I say I'm building something it's something physical that I can show you - either partially completed or already built

granted electronic circuits are easyer and smaller to deal with but that's up to what you desire to build

so if I do show you pictures you won't know what your looking at - if I post schematics you can't read them..

the entire main radio station from audio processor to stereo exciter to modulator to RF output is my original design - I can post a clip of the live stream of what happens to be playing on the station as I type but it's in HE-AAC format and I bet you can't even play it (I used to use MP3 but switched about a month ago)

rename to "live.aac" - won't be HQ 32.khz stereo unless you have a HE-AAC decoder plugin or directshow filter

needs special MP4 plugin to stream HE-AAC though

But they could possibly configure into wind motors...

it's weird how your posts start out fairly long when

talking about todays lie or game or flake

idea, but as details or questions are

asked, the posts and word count

starts shrinking and by the

time answering them becomes

the main point your entire

post becomes mere single

sentences then

finally just

one or two

words

like

this

.

It was very cute.

you

I must have all my possesions maked accordingly.

thanks.

It wont show up on the tank of my Truimph.

of your imagination you mean

I have noticed this.

Your references are usually in the context of a game. But I do know the framework of the rules you play by, Mr. Whizzard.

Do you know that reading your progression of posts, one detects an almost physical mood swing from polite helpfullness to overt hostility and ridiculous extrapolation from your particular springboard into Mr. Whizzard visuals.

And why CAN'T you provide 3D stick, huh?

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/junkyard/all.html.

Too labor intensive? Burp.

mood swings

ah yes so you have noticed

a few reasons

1.) I had been drinking coffee but not eaten yet - I get grouchy if I'm hungry and feel better after I eat

2.) when you consume my time on a subject that turns out to be based on lies it's very irritating because I don't have the luxury of spending all day playing on the computer since I have issues like RENT & FOOD to deal with

when I discover my time's been wasted for your personal entertainment thats time taken away from making money which directly impacts my quality of life

normally I will spend a certain amount of time "playing" for my own sake and to *help other people with problems* - like technical questions, advice, tips and pointers, but when that time spent turns out to be a sham it pisses me off because it costs me



> ridiculous extrapolation from your particular springboard into Mr. Whizzard visuals.



visuals are a more direct and easy way to explain certain things - a large solar reflector is a perfect example of something best visualized HOWEVER;



> And why CAN'T you provide 3D stick, huh?



I use very old graphics editing software called Photostacker because *I'm very fast with it* - the reflecter took only a few minutes to whip up, BUT it's not 3-D

rendering a 3-D image would be a lot more trouble - I would either have to dump what I'm used to using for the past 10 years and learn to use newer software (which would take time to find install and learn) or spend even more time doing a complicated simulated 3-D rendering under 2-D conditions which also takes much time

I'm just not set up for 3-D rendering...

The graphics I do are for general enhancement (color, hue, contrast, gamma balance) manually

I am starting to collect automated virtural-dub filters that apply these but as a image series (virtural-dub is designed for processing moving pictures so a single frame is rather clunkly to convert because most of the filters choke on just a single frame)

I do not have any huge bloated fancy apps like photoshop because I try to avoid bloat, as my system HD is only 4.GB - although I *could* obtain and install these apps I've resisted (oh I did just install and tinker with "face filter standard" about a week ago - it alters facial expressions based on a set of templates - kind'a neat)



as for games - I don't have time for games, I have bills to worry about and shouldn't be wasting the time I'm wasting on here now (besides I've never liked games anyway)



I normally work with other technically minded engineers to do concrete real things for important reasons that help other people so time has to be prioritized - if you only have an IDEA you want to discuss you need to say so up front - building gives it a much higher priority and the lie get's you undeserved time and attention that I otherwise would have put off simply chit-chatting about 'till late tonight when I have more free time

By claiming it's a current project in the building stages you caused me to allocate my time to it that I should have spent doing things here to make money during the day which is the most important time...

Unless I ignore you, your lies end up costing me time and money because I don't have the luxury of spending all day doing nothing important while the rent needs to be paid and food needs to be bought (I covered the rest of last weeks rent and this upcoming week yesterday BUT that leaves nothing for food - if I go to the store and buy food right now which I need to do it has to come out of *next weeks rent* which will have to be replaced - and the only time I have to replace it is NOW during the day)

I have 35 hungry birds waiting on bird seed right now - if I buy birdseed that money will have to be replaced before friday..



I normally set such concerns aside to help out fellow techs who are working on current projects to help people by generating power which is what you presented - but NOT to merely discuss a pipe dream that will probably never even see the light of day !

If that's all it is, I have hungry birds that need fed and bills that need attending to..

so THAT'S why I get pissed off when you lie to me - the exact underlying reasons

but you do so much of it... like the preceding rant about too much coffee. Glad to have you on standby.

it's evening here now - the chance to make money for the day is past

I didn't say too much coffee (I can't drink much, only a few cups a day) I said I had drank *only* coffee and hadn't eaten yet then..

I usually drink coffee when I get on the computer

keep in mind I run a network here - there's several computers that need attending to, like for example this morning I found "Tim" on but he had grabbed 192.168.0.20 which conflicts with one of the gateways causing an error to pop up so I changed his name to "Tim_assign_yourself_another_IP_please" and had to monitor and segment part of the network until he did. That was my first chore when I woke up...

Then I refreshed the browser and saw your "building" post which I proceeded to reply to as an on-going current project

If you had posted "I have an idea" (been honest) I would have dropped a quick reply and MOVED ON to the day's money making plans - money that's needed to buy food for me & the birds

so by the time it became obvious it doesn't even exist it had been several hours and the birds and I were getting hungry...

maybe you have time on your hands to play these games but I don't - I have only the money I generate by my own efforts and the morning is a key time to get ahold of people, etc..

by late afternoon - evening NOW I do have time

I'm sure you can understand that a man has to work for a living and keep bread on the table - that when you have to hussle for work, that's mainly a morning to daytime activity..

these ideas you have for solar energy are good in intent - alternative energy is a positive concept and *I have some direct experience in this subject*

it doesn't come up very often but it's a high priority issue

> you do so much of it - have you on standby



no you don't understand

I'm on the network already due to providing internet service for people here - I ADMINISTER the network, so it seems like I'm "on all day" because I'm already "on" the local network and you (IMC) is only a click away.

I don't fire up a computer and get on-line, I have a network of computers which allready are on-line 24/7, with surfing being a page refresh away..

I'm "near-line" in other words



We have our own web pages, our own IRC server, our own e-mail deamon, these people are local to me - the internet is *tied in* so the box I administer on has pages that are in the taskbar that I only bring up and refresh to get back here to IMC

this box rarely goes down since it's the most important one to me - every few weeks or so I occasionally reboot it but it's rare

I use it 80 % of the time on the local network though, for the few minutes I spend typing to you I spend 1/2 hour doing other local activities - that's why it typically takes me about a 1/2 hour to reply...

think of it as a local baby internet with an extension of the internet you're on as a occasional diversion (all the local connections are very fast - faster than your DSL but the internet you are on is slooow - dialup)

plus I'm D/Ling a DVD (which is 82 % complete - have you ever D/L'ed a whole DVD on dialup ?)

that makes it even slower