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LA TIMES LOVES JOE TURNER

by Fred Alvarez Thursday, Jun. 30, 2005 at 3:05 AM

A Street-Fighter Mentality on Illegal Immigration By Fred Alvarez, Times Staff Writer As the insults flew and the protest reached a boil, Joseph Turner couldn't help but smile. The 29-year-old head of the upstart Save Our State organization had come to Baldwin Park to pick a fight over illegal immigration. He had led a band of like-minded souls into the heart of the city to protest public art they deemed "seditious and anti-American." Part of a monument at the Metrolink station is inscribed "It was better before they came," interpreted by some as a barb at whites who displaced California's Mexican residents in the 19th century. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-profile27jun27.story

hey got all of the fight they could handle. Hundreds of counter-protesters in the predominantly Latino city rose up to meet them, chanting "Go home, racists!" As news crews captured the clash, police in riot gear called for reinforcements.

The group's protests had drawn fire before, but nothing like what erupted last month in the working-class community.

"I couldn't have scripted it better," said Turner, a former stock trader who runs the anti-illegal immigration group from his Ventura home.
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we are latinos

by naui hutzilopochtli Friday, Jul. 01, 2005 at 8:16 AM

we are not latinos , we are mexican buddie .
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Dissention in the Ranks?

by Voice of Reason II Friday, Jul. 01, 2005 at 3:17 PM

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=2851&view=findpost&p=25115

Augustin Cebada bemoaning the self-hating whites trying to aid the "reconquista" cause.
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That Poster is Bad

by johnk Friday, Jul. 01, 2005 at 9:44 PM

The comment by Augustin Cebada is incorrect. The ISO and SCHRN were organizing against SOS before other groups. The larger movement to deal with the MMP was focused on the border, but ISO was out there counter-protesting the SOS. The larger movement around Baldwin Park happened somewhat spontaneously, but was sparked by several different groups jumping on the issue at the same time.

The first BP demo was a confluence of efforts. The arts community got involved. The Chicano nationalist groups showed up. (Note that they didn't seem to be present to counter-protest SOS in Laguna Beach.) Immigrant rights groups got involved. MEChA was involved. A lot of anarchists got on board. And, most significantly, there were activists in Baldwin Park who took up the issue and actively organized around it.

The second BP demo seemed to be more of a effort by organizations to out-organize each other.
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