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Fluoride, uranium X, cancer in workers

by Fluoride Deception (C. Bryson) revw by salmon Wednesday, Jun. 08, 2005 at 5:27 PM

Fluoride and uranium based nuclear weapons manufacture in the 1950's exposed many North American citizens of African descent to radiation and fluoride exposure..



review of Fluoride Deception

written by

salmon breath


Fluoride and nuclear weapons manufacture in the 1950's exposed many North American citizens of African descent to radiation and fluoride exposure..

Cleveland's Area C aluminum military manufacture during WW2 exposed workers to airborne fluoride causing physical injury and death of African american workers..

Trade in fluoride research exposre was traded between Nazi Germany's petrochemical conglomerate IG Farben (now Bayer-Hoechst, Syngenta, etc.) and US corporations like Alcoa Aluminum and Standard Oil connected to the Dupont and Rockefeller Family. Fluoride was needed in obtaining aluminum for airplanes by the militarization and industrialization of both Germany and the United States. Racism and classism arose in American factorys in Cleveland and Detroit as facism and industrialism mirrored in Nazi Germany. Workers and concentration camp inmates were both exposed routinely to fluoride to observe defeceit behavior of the central nervous system when exposed to fluoride gas..

Prescott Bush's funding of Hitler's Nazi party makes diabolical sense in the case that securing the Middle Eastern Saudi Oil reserves benefits his current empire under grandson George W. Bush..

The research findings of damage to the central nervous system from fluoride exposure was not disclosed to the public as a result of intimidation tactics like Dr. Harold Hodge against animal research scientists like Dr. Physllis Mullinex. She discovered that airborne fluoride gas exposure increases chances of cancer in rats. She later discovered that longtime mentor Harlod Hodge also knew this information (earlier research in fluoride exposure in human/worker test subjects also causes cancer, the rats were even tested needlessly) decades earlier and suppressed it. Workers in Cleveland area c were exposed to airborne fluoride that was witnessed to shear flesh from people as they were running away from an explosion. The fluoride tanker was in Cleveland's Area C where daily exposure do airborne fluoride led to such diseases as skeletal and dental fluorosis, a hardening, mottling and brittling of the bone. This exposure occurred to workers as part of the regular 40 hour workweek..

While animal research is invasive to an innocent species, it is also not as accurate as is human research. It is difficult to get volunteers, the corporations then expose people unwillingly. the United States government began testing fluoride on human beings. Most of the information was being sought by corporations like Reynolds aluminum and the US military. Workers, people of lower income color were target groups for this research..

Prisoners in United States are exposed to pharmaceutical research in psychiatric medications by US corporations like Eli Lily, again with economic ties to George W Bush. Prozac, the brand name Fluoextipine also contains fluoride and possibly helps tranquilizing people into a state of partial lobotomy delirium. Active parts of the brain are disabled, thoughts become clouded and the subject sinks into a blissful state.

Often prisoners are given psychotropics as tranquilizers. Forced psychiatric medication is to coerce people into accepting unnatural conditions of confinement for long periods of time without experiencing natural mental revulsion expressed as a termed "mental illness" that psychiatirsts attept to treat with petrochemical based pharmaceutical products like Prozac, Zyprexa, Haldol, Lithium, etc..

The side effects include Tardiff Dyskenisia (partial paralysis of the neck) are long term and severe, with other regular symptoms of drowsiness, kidney problems, motor difficulty, etc..

Prison labor below minimum wage is the new slavery. African Mexican and other low income people are forced to work below minimum wage for long hours at some of California's prisons. The forced medication with psychiatric pharmaceutrical products also enables prison workers to stay focused on long boring tasks like computer circuit board welding. Corporations are gearing up for a peak oil recession and beginning the martial law/ prison police state facist mechanism here in North America, US corporations now dependent on prison and sweatshop slave labor here in US prisons

California Deptartment of Corrections takes advantage of rural and low income communities when they build their prisons. Crescent City's Pelican Bay State Prison was dropped on the town shortly after a tidal wave and after timber corporations had overlogged hillsides. This also occurs in the new desert prisons of Southern California. The economically struggling community was promised jobs and a renewed economy yet today many CDC workers are struggling with depression, alcoholism and a CDC union that seems to be in league with the US military/Homeland Security Gestapo. Anyone who tries talking as a whistleblower against CDC pattern of oppression needs to flee Crescent City in safety of their lives..

Maybe someday people will realize prisons are ineffective ways of dealing with human beings and/or animals and need to be removed. Society needs to deal with prevention of crimes by true methods of ending poverty and racial, economic, sexual and homophobic discrimination. Remove these inequlaities and we may witness a drop in violent crime, rape and violence against children. Recreational use of plants like cannibas should be encouraged as medicinal for human beings if they choose this supplement. Corporate control of tobacco plant by plantation owners RJ Reynolds/ Phillip Morris needs to be replaced by a healthy outlook for tobacco as a sacred plant, not something to be sprayed with toxic pesticides and harvested by underpaid workers for the profit of a corporation..

When we respect the innocense of even somewhat unpleasant animals like rats, spiders, etc., we may discover this respect extends to other less fortunate humans also. We may wish to remove these bugs from our homes, but purposefully exposing animals to known chemical toxins is cruel behavior. We need to eliminate the manufacture of toxins by getting to the source of production. Then neither workers, prisoners, or animals will be exposed to toxins that can remove their life vital energy that allows people to wake up and smile at a lovely day..

Nuclear weapons and fluoride in water are other intrusions in our lives from corporate military that we could all do without. We need to stop exposing workers to toxins and allowing these toxins into our ecosystems..

George W Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and other members of the Bush Regime need to be removed from US office of pResidency (for Earth safety, prevention of The Nuclear Holocaust) and tried for war crimes at the Hague. The charges include unauthorized invasion of the sovereign nation of Iraq and the attempted genocide of the Iraqi people by exposure to fragments of depleted uranium. The actions of Jeb Bush in Florida include environmental and civil rights violations and need to be examined in the view of Bush family history beginning with the financial support of Prescott Bush for Hitler's Nazi regime in Germany..

People don't have to live in fear of nuclear holocaust if we clean up our own backyard and begin reducing nuclear weapons in Nevada, Newe Sogobia, Utah, New Mexico and other locations throughout North America where residents have suffered too long with cancer from the constant low level radiation emmission and threat of nuclear accident. No further spending on nuclear weapons military budget until scientists are given adequate time to neutralize nuclear waste into a safe product..

Fluoride Action Network; Linx between fluoride and nuclear weapons, Mullinex research discovered central nervous system malfunction linked to fluoride in rats;

some fluoride related info above in greater detail/accuracy found in;

"The Fluoride Deception" by Christopher Bryson

seven stories books

http://www.sevenstoriesbooks.com

http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-deception2.htm

No nuclear waste in Nevada/Newe Sogobia:

Nuclear waste info on Yucca Mountain covered up by Dept of Energy. Research indicated that the storage chamber is likely to experience leaking. Bechtel Nevada continued with the mining operation and exposed workers to mineral silica fragment known to cause lung disease called silicosis after mineral fragement shards enter lung tissue. Inadequate masks were provided despite Bechtel's knowledge that the shard inhalation would cause this disease in worker's lung tissue. Many workers were residents of Nevada/Newe Sogobia and were coerced into working for Bechtel due to regional poverty of Walker Lake and other nearby communities. Temporary labor would bus African, Mexican and low income transients from downtown Las Vegas for short term drilling operations, no insurance provided after the job was finished..


No nuclear waste disposal in Goshutes Sovereign Land Skull Valley;

No Nuclear Waste in Nevada/Newe Sogobia!

http://www.shundahai.org/

Los Alamos Study Group;

http://www.lasg.org/


Cascadia Rising!

http://www.cascadiarising.org/topic/ksan/
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junk science anyone ?

by Hex Wednesday, Jun. 08, 2005 at 11:31 PM

This is where ignorance brings us - if the author (or poster) knew just BASIC CHEMISTRY this BS would not have been made up





> psychiatric medications by US corporations like Eli Lily, again with economic ties to George W Bush. Prozac, the brand name Fluoextipine also contains fluoride and possibly helps tranquilizing people into a state of partial lobotomy delirium. Active parts of the brain are disabled, thoughts become clouded and the subject sinks into a blissful state.



Fluoride as a free element/hydrogen fluoride/hydrofluoric acid is one thing -


the most active of the halide series (iodine, bromine, chlorine and fluorine) these are all
toxic in thier free state, and yes with chlorine and fluorine there IS a risk of cancer (remember that when you use bleach) but it's due to them being OXIDIZERS, they cause oxidation damage. The ones not active enough to - iodine, bromine are simply mildly poisonous, but keep in mind that iodine is a required nutrient *when consumed as an inert salt* and chlorine (again as salts and other compounds) is needed to live at all. (if all the chlorine were suddenly removed from your body you would drop dead)


It's a grave mistake to mix the world of free radicals with inert salts but a common blunder a person makes when they don't know even basic chemistry...


Fluorine as a compound in various drugs is simply used for convenience and is HARMLESS as the fluoride in toothpaste/water or the iodine in salt is.


The effects of major tranquilizers in the thorazine family mentioned here -


> Tardiff Dyskenisia (partial paralysis of the neck)


is caused by the drug stripping manganese out of the brain - all thats needed to prevent this is to take a manganese suppliment, and yes doctors tend to be ignorant of this fact. However tardiff dyskinesia are uncontrolled spasms much like parkinson disease - NOT paralysis.

And only tranquilizers in the thorazine family can produce it, these tranquilizers mentioned above are MINOR tranquilizers and are completely different being in the benzodiazepine class of drugs...


So again it's nearly ALL WRONG since the author doesn't know squat about chemistry.




> Nuclear weapons and fluoride in water


Again we're mixing our P's & Q's - fluorine gas is used to combine with uranium to make uranium hexafluoride gas - free elemental fluorine (which is always hydrofluorous/hydrofluoric acid in air due to combining with moisture) is an extremely strong oxidizer and active enough to dissolve glass - so yes that's poisonous, and the uranium is radioactive of course AND it's toxicity is much like lead.

So this gas is very bad and yes they knew it and allowed exposure to it anyway, plus used the excuse of "national security" to suppress and cover it up.


But fluorine in water is an inactive salt - in tiny amounts besides. Fluorine occurs naturally in many foods the same way (seafood and sea salt being a good examples) in often far greater quanities..


My personal perspective on the halides are fluorine and bromine as compounds although harmless have no business in the body and iodine and chlorine being needed are fine of course.


In actual practice bromine is the most toxic of the two yet it's used in swimming pools as a substitute for chorine but also in tiny amounts and again is in sea water as well...




> lung disease called silicosis after mineral fragement shards enter lung tissue. Inadequate masks were provided


This is the ONLY accurate thing in the whole post.

( hehe, except for the spelling - it's fragment )

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+-sodium fluride

by yup Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 1:37 AM

Of course, Hex, it's just like sodium cloride. An 'inactive' salt.
Just like potasium cloride.
I think I know who is pushing junk science.
It's you.
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so all the chemistry books in the world are wrong

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 9:05 AM

so all the chemistry...
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so you can be right ?


> potasium cloride.

potassium chloride

a common salt found in potatoes, citrus, many other vegetables, meats, SEAWATER, etc...


oh yes that must be deadly too - because you say so ?

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no Mr. Brainiac

by Bob Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 10:52 AM

But sodium fluride is a LONG way from NaCl. Yeah I've read a few chem texts so don't try to blow me, sailor.
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and what about potassium ?

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 11:47 AM

what was that about potassium ? so you've read a few books - hmmmm WHAT books, care to PASTE some wisdom ?

care to say where fluorine *naturally occurs* or will you just cryolite about it some more ?



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flurine

by yup Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 12:45 PM

It does not occur in nature. It's far too reactive. It exist only as a compound.
Care to tell me about your chemistry degree(s)?
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"does not occur in nature"

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 1:27 PM

"does not occur...
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Cryolite (Sodium Aluminum Fluoride)


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it WAS sodium fluoride you were cryoliting about...

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 1:34 PM

it WAS sodium fluori...
fluorite.gif, image/png, 128x96

Fluorite (Calcium Fluoride) is also used as a source of fluorine for hydrofluoric acid and fluorinated water.



so predictable

I already said elemental fluorine gas is dangerous, you were going on ABOUT compounds - here's 2 naturally occuring fluorine compounds right here..

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Sodium Fluoride

by yup Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 2:13 PM

This is the soluble compound added to water.
It also is a major ingredient in prosac.
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I'm melting - what a world !

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 3:01 PM

> fluorine a major ingredient in prosac


so


I already explained why

it's a "hook" - an easy way to stabilize the molecule.

if you look at a listing of drugs you'll see many are exactly the same - with hydrochloride being the most common, chlorine is almost as active as fluorine, but the earth's oceans are full of it - never hurt a thing, we evolved in it

this discussion has devolved from your initial screaming about the danger to mere speculation

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NaCl is not NaF

by yup Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 3:14 PM

And the differences is the subtile chemistry between the dendrites particularly in the CNS. We didn't evolve in a sea of NaF solution.
If you want to season your meat with NaF, it's ok with me.
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yes we did

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 3:36 PM

yes we did...
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> We didn't evolve in a sea of NaF solution.

Seawater contains Fluorine

Do you think that's free elemental Fluorine or as a SALT ?


And there's the question of quantity - you've waffled from tiny amounts (.00001%) in drinking water - what you were originally crying wolf about, to now sprinkling it on foods - funny, that's not what the claim started out as;

DANGER - don't eat large amounts of Sodium Fluoride

not

DANGER - tiny amounts, less than in seawater, are deadly (cancer is deadly is it not ?)

waffling isn't very scientific
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THIS is science

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 4:18 PM

Fluoridation means adjusting the fluoride content of water to a concentration of about 1 part fluoride per million parts of water (1 ppm). The word does not refer to natural waterborne fluoride, fluoride toothpastes, mouth rinses, or supplements. The term "adjusting" is appropriate because "adding" would imply putting something in the water that is not already there. Most ground water contains fluoride, but usually not the right amount for optimal effectiveness against tooth decay without fluorosis.

Fluoride is a stable, dissociated, ionized form of fluorine, the 17th most common element, 13th most common element in the earth's crust (averaging 290 ppm in the 10-mile deep crust), and 12th most in the ocean water. Fluoride is most abundant in regions that have experienced volcanism in their geological pasts. Fluorine never occurs in nature in its elemental form because, as the most electronegative and reactive of all elements, it combines readily with other natural substances -- most often calcium.

>>>Seawater contains from 0.8 to 1.4 ppm fluoride, sea creatures have thrived in water with levels comparable to fluoridation for aeons.<<<

To influence public opinion, antifluoridationists do not have to prove that fluoridation is unsafe, ineffective, or undesirable in some other way. They merely have to create doubts. Many who express their concerns over fluoridation have been duped by antifluoridationist's propaganda. Antifluoridationists work to create doubt through confusion. Their favorite tactic is to create the illusion that a scientific controversy exists of the safety of fluoridation.
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and now for another view point

by yup Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 4:35 PM

And certainly fluoride is not something to swallow voluntarily, it has been linked with aggression(1), lower IQ scores(2), cancer(3), obesity(4), irritable bowel syndrome(5) and it seems to interfere with thyroid hormones.
Fluoride is systemically toxic(6) and seems to be an ingredient of many of the chemical industry's products, from pesticides to medicines.

1
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/03/30/fluoride_and_aggression.htm
2
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/08/25/fluoride_and_iq.htm
3
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/09/10/fluoride_in_your_bones_cancer_ahead.htm
4
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/07/12/fluoride_linked_to_obesity_epidemic_thyroid_trouble.htm
5
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/06/28/avoid_fluoride_to_cure_ibs.htm
6
http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C627523.html
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water already has Fluorine in it

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 4:53 PM

I guess you missed that -

>>>Seawater contains from 0.8 to 1.4 ppm fluoride, sea creatures have thrived in water with levels comparable to fluoridation for aeons.<<<

>>>Most ground water contains fluoride<<<

Some people like sea salt - they get A LOT of Fluorine that way (the salt concentrates it)

People who eat seafood also get *more than fluoridation provides*

And some ground water contains up to 10 times more (14.ppm) NATURALLY

People have been harvesting sea salt all through history - the aliments chris is blaming Fluorine for are *modern cultural* problems.

Once more - people who eat sea salt *already get more Fluorine in thier diet than you get from fluoridated water*, and in some cases up to 10 times more - naturally.

Chris's opinion is just that - opinion.

I'm talking about FACTS

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then you make a choice

by yup Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 5:13 PM

If you want to ingest flouride compounds, go for it. Most all tooth pastes have it and topical application is used at the point of effect. The teeth.
Do you eat your tooth paste? Not likely. Or maybe you do.
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we all already are

by Hex Thursday, Jun. 09, 2005 at 5:35 PM

That's the point - Fluorine occurs naturally in our water, in seafood, seaweed and especially sea salt

Many times it's more than mere fluoridation (which is strictly limited.)

There's nothing NOTHING in any of these scare articles about the Fluorine naturally already there.

Sea salt is consumed the world over by millions of people all through history , this represents a much greater exposure than the small amount in drinking water..

WHERE'S THE DOOMSAYING OVER SEA SALT ?

You won't go there because you know people can't be convinced sea salt is bad - you have to pounce upon easy prey - fear of the unknown - and mix elemental Fluorine (the uranium refining) with an inert salt that's already everywhere.

confusion is the only thing you have to sell..


If you were even being consistant you would be warning about the danger of sea salt, seaweed, seafood and well water THEN fluoridation - in that order

This situation of ignoring the body of evidence but jumping upon one small aspect of it using hyperbole is the very essence of JUNK SCIENCE - as I stated to begin with.


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