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View article without comments Some SOS Members Identifiedby 1planet1people Tuesday, May. 31, 2005 at 5:36 PMSOS Is Up To Something!
SOS has announced that it is coming back to Baldwin Park after having a meeting in Los Vegas with several hundred anti-immigration radicals. From the posts on their website, we can infer that they are planning something sneaky. It is vitally important that people know who these people are, and watch your backs to make sure that they do not attack individuals in the counter protests. There has been talk of sending moles into their organization to identify more of the individuals, and collect organizational plans that they are keeping off their public forums. Until then, here are a few members that have been identified as central leaders in their movement. If anyone has any further information, you can post it here.
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1inchgroupby 1planet1people Tuesday, May. 31, 2005 at 5:36 PM
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Donby 1planet1people Tuesday, May. 31, 2005 at 5:36 PM
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DO NOT FEED THE TROLLSby 1planet1people Tuesday, May. 31, 2005 at 6:43 PMBe careful of what you say in this forum. The SOS group has networked with other groups, and may be working with government agencies like the FBI. It is important that all posts remain non-threatening. From this point forward, it would be wise not to feed the trolls, and to use this as it is intended, to report on updates. Again, I can not stress enough, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!
We have a legal right to protest, but any threats (even if provoked) are considered assault. If you are identified, you could get in trouble. If you have an update, give it. SOS people will be posting on here in an attempt to get people angry so they will fly off the handle and start saying things that they do not entirely mean. Do not get set up like this.
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Copyrightby Save Our State Tuesday, May. 31, 2005 at 7:22 PMinfoaboutdkellmarsalisblog@yahoo.com 805-522-8028 Please cease and desist from use of photographs taken from www.saveourstate.org
These photos are privately owned and not in the public domain. www.chillingeffects.org/
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Fair Use Exemptionby 1Planet1People Tuesday, May. 31, 2005 at 8:57 PMPlease Read News Media Exemption in Fair Use Laws:
When a copyright holder sues a user of the work for infringment, one defense that the user may have is the defense of fair use. Under the fair use doctrine, it is not an infringement for one to use the copyrighted works of another in some circumstances. However, it is difficult to define what exactly constitutes fair use because courts consider the defense on a case by case basis, and the analysis of the defense varies with the facts of each case.
Although the fair use defense was available for many years, the doctrine was first codified by Congress in the Copyright Act of 1976 in Section 107. Section 107 gives a non-exhaustive list of examples of when the fair use defense could be successful. The list includes criticism, comment, scholarship, research, NEWS REPORTING and teaching as uses that may be fair.
www.chillingeffects.org/fairuse/
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Threats and Intimidationby Hellfire USA Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 7:04 AMIndyMedia's use of photographs and monikers of SoS and/or Minuteman Project members is a clear attempt at intimidation. The behavior of your followers is abominable as has been shown at our peaceful rallies. We have been routinely attacked and threatened while excercising our constitutional rights in opposition to open borders, racism, treason and foreign hostility. I assure you that this sort of aggression will not be met with kid gloves any longer. You are opening the door to open confrontation if you animals continue down the road you are on. We will never cast the first stone but rest assured, any attack on our peaceful demonstrations will be met with proportional retaliation. And yes, we have our own moles amongst you. We are watching everything you do.
You've been warned.
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No Copyright Claimsby Anonymous Lawyer Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 9:01 AMPictures are found on multiple public accessible web forums, including Save Our State and AIL-PAC (http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-4057.html). Further, indymeida is a news organization, and pictures posted have been done so in a news format. 1Planet1People, your citation is correct, as there are no copyright infringements at this time.
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what is the point?by Meyer London Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 9:02 AMSince nothing can be legally done to these fellows except boo them at rallies, what is the point of running their pictures? Especially in view of the fact that none of them are particularly unusual looking, and could easily be confused with someone else.
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I know himby Anonymous Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 10:38 AMI know who that one inch guy is, he lives a couple of streets over from me.
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not reallyby 1Planet1People Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 12:24 PMhttp://michiganimc.org/mod/comments/display/5235/index.php
------------------------------------------------------- 1inchgroup Posted: May 31 2005, 01:27 PM Patriot Group: Members Posts: 884 Member No.: 31 Joined: 3-December 04 Profile:1planet1people Graduated from Central Michigan University in 2001 Now lives in So. Cal. Likely participant in hunger strikes protesting against the evil Taco Bell while at Central Michigan University. 1planet1people. You are spread out in a lot of places. Keep pushing this . . . and you may reap what you sow. I found your college and your current residence listed during a 5 minute search on some interesting sites. Your writing style is distinctive, and could be easily compared to various posts and pages going back a few years. The information contained in those posts and pages will identify you. You want that? Play nice or it's going to get hot in here. ----------------------------------------------------- Is this a threat? You are wrong by the way, I really graduated in 19XX, and it was not from CMU (hehe). Do you really think I am going to post correct info in publications like this when I am a media activist working against Bush's war machine. They have much better resources than you do. I publish to inform and inspire. This means that when Bush spoke at Calvin College not to long ago, I became an alumni there as well, saying the same thing. Opps, I am feeding the trolls.....sorry, that is not a good thing to do.
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That seditious "monument" WILL be torn down!by FBI Troll Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 12:41 PMFools.
Do ou really think you AZTLOAFS stand a chance? The seditious arch WILL come down. We hope for a large turnout of multicultural scumbag leftist welfare trash. Our cameras are rolling all the time (most of them you'd never know were there) to catch which ones of you are inciting your unruly mob to throw bottles and riot. Your feeble resistance to justice and American way WILL be crushed. A HA HA HA HA HA HA! Spirit of SOS
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Fair Use Exemptionby Save Our State Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 3:05 PMinfoaboutdkellymarsalisblog@yahoo.com 562-895-5252 But of course once you receive the C&D letter you will have to remove the objectionable material pending determination that you have the right to use it.
And of course you know that posting someone's name without their permisson is a violation of California privacy law and you will be subjected to a fine.
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Indymedia is an open publishing siteby LA-IMC Member Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 7:53 PMLA-IMC is an open publishing forum. LA-IMC is not responsible for the content of any material posted to the site. Like any web blog, LA-IMC is not responsible for protecting the copyrights of any material posted on the site nor does it claim any rights to the material posted. Those posting to the site are responsible for obtaining clearance for any works or derivative works posted to the site.
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Just Ask..by Save Our State Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 8:03 PMIf you guys really want to see who we are and what we look like, c'mon over to the site (I think you know the address) and ask for our photos.
I am sure I can supply you with better photos than these. They're all blurry looking. Remember, we're not the ones standing with ski masks on, or flags covering our faces, or riot helmets on...we're out there waving flags for anyone to photograph. Just ask...We're not afraid of you seeing what we look like.
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Please Postby A Fly Wednesday, Jun. 01, 2005 at 9:34 PMPlease post photos of all your members on your (or this) website. We would love to know who we are watching for when we're watching our backs. Thank you 1Planet for informing us of who we are protesting. These 'public figures' are good to know.
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It is not even the same guyby Liz Thursday, Jun. 02, 2005 at 3:49 AM805-525-2510 It is not even the same guy in all the pictures. The one shooting the gun is an ad.
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You are helping Bushby Liz Thursday, Jun. 02, 2005 at 3:52 AM "am a media activist working against Bush's war"
The immigration reform movement is anti Bush. You are fighting the wrong enemy. Which of course Bush loves you for. Dumb.
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Radicalsby Robert Jones Thursday, Jun. 02, 2005 at 10:32 AMrjones22@netzero.net 301 638-2990 Oh my god! American citizens exercising their right to free speech. What's this country coming to? Don't they know that only Pre-Aproved thoughts and ideas can be shared? Check with the ACLU, I'm sure this isn't allowed. At least not in MY Amerika. All white guys too, so you know their racist, sexist, bigoted homophobes.
Lets spread as many lies as we can about these people. Fidel Castro thanks you. Robert Jones (Proud Save our State Member)
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Trolls Ignoredby 1Planet1People Thursday, Jun. 02, 2005 at 11:55 AMEveryone is doing well. You see their anger and hatred, trying to draw people into fights. Soon, they will likely pretend to be against the SOS, and argue with themselves. It is important to continue to ignore them. If you watch the video, what you will find is these are violent people that try to draw people into an angry frenzy, then they turn around and paint the people as the bad group. The KKK has been doing this for years. They know that the art will not come down; they know they are going to be out numbered. Joe and the SOS group wants the attention, he wants other close-minded racists to pity him and his group. He is a media junky who is going to risk the safety of the people in his group just so he can get another three minutes of fame on Fox News. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if they were sending people into our protests to throw bottles at themselves, just so they can say, "poor me". Just let them flame themselves and ignore everything they post. If you could talk sense into this type of people, the KKK would have died out decades ago.
Further, any pictures people have of these individuals should be posted here. Their personal information is not important and should not be posted, this is NOT to intimidate them; it is to protect us. If everyone knows who they are, they cannot come over to our side, do illegal activity, and blame it on us. If their side does not get hurt, they lose, and they do not want that. We must protect ourselves from their hate. That is why a celebration of the people may be a better idea. Video From BP1 http://sparcmurals.org/downloads/vid/Part3.wmv www.sparcmurals.org/sparcone/index.php?option=com_content...
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Ignore this postby Liger Howardson Thursday, Jun. 02, 2005 at 2:09 PMEveryone is doing well. You see their anger and hatred, trying to draw people into fights.
Bottle throwing, bandana wearing leftist thugs holding Mexican flags. Who are the angry ones again? Oh, that’s right, they were edited out of this video. Soon, they will likely pretend to be against the SOS, and argue with themselves. Huh? If you watch the video, what you will find is these are violent people that try to draw people into an angry frenzy, then they turn around and paint the people as the bad group. You rabble are self-rousing sheep, so don't give US the credit you so richly deserve. You sure you’re watching the same video? The only injury was to an SOS member by some bottle-hurling coward. They know that the art will not come down; they know they are going to be out numbered. Sounds like whistling past the graveyard to me. That arch will be coming down as long as this is a nation of laws, and we’ll be sure to capture the “carnicerians” rioting right afterward. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if they were sending people into our protests to throw bottles at themselves, just so they can say, "poor me". Poor Anti-American leftists. Tinfoil hats are cheap. There are spies among you, but they only need to document the obvious. You shoot yourselves in the foot without any help. VIVA SOS! VIVA LA MIGRA!
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troll wars?by johnk Thursday, Jun. 02, 2005 at 8:57 PMThis is an interesting phenomenon -- online troll wars mutating into real-life troll wars.
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Good set of photographsby Fredric L. Rice Friday, Jun. 03, 2005 at 7:37 AMfrice@skeptictank.org > Further, any pictures people have of these
> individuals should be posted here. > -- 1Planet1People commented There are a number of fairly good photographs of the "worthy opposition" available at: BP1 Photographs And it would be a good idea to maybe print the photographs of the SOS / Minutemen / Whatever scum offered on those photographs and have them available while protesting against racism and for freedom of speech in Baldwin Park and other points South West. It is also a very good idea to continue to build archives of the scum specifically to thwart any attempt to instigate violence among the ranks of our peaceful protesters -- knowing, of course, that there will still be racist hate mongers slipped in and that COINTELPRO still appears to be a funded program. 1Planet1People, you do a good job. I'll try my best to stand in solidarity and protest for freedom of speech, art, and expression, and against racism if these scum try to sneak back into Baldwin Park. I'll be the guy handing out The Dark Wind flyers. www.thedarkwind.org/nohate0.htm
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threats not good for IMCby Meyer London Friday, Jun. 03, 2005 at 9:46 AMExplicit or implicit threats and counter-threats of violence are only going to help the Bush administration make a case of shutting down internet sites they don't like. They will claim that they are not going after freedom of the press or speech and not trying to stop criticism of the war - they only want to stop "violence" and "terroristic language." I don't see any sense in helping them out.
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How to spy On SOS They make it so easyby Stopsosnow Saturday, Jun. 04, 2005 at 2:39 PMAn IRC Channel has been set up on DALnet, instead of Yahoo Messenger chat. Here's the "how-to" to get you up and running on IRC. It is my intention to provide a place that is a bit more secure than Messenger, for recruitment and planning.
If you already have an IRC client, just log into a DALNET server and join #SaveOurState. This is the main channel, and there will be others created on an invite only basis....for direct planning and conference reasons. Here's a free client. It's called Visual IRC and can be found at the VIRC homepage at http://www.visualirc.net/download.php Download and install, then run the program. There will be an icon placed on your desktop. Double click the icon and fire up VIRC. Once you get inside the program, look for the CONFIGURATION button. It's the one with the tools over a box. Click it to open the Config window. Under Initial Setup: Remove the two user names vircuser and the other. Add your user name, and an alternate to the Default Nicks section. Under IDENT: Blank or something non identifying Under REAL NAME: Blank or something non identifying Default server: use the "..." button just to the right of the field for default server, pick a DALNET server closest to you. Look for one with CA in the name if you're in California, etc. You should be ready to connect now. There are a lot of other options to tweak so files can be sent between people, etc, but the initial set up is done. Check the tickbox at the bottom of the configuration screen, the one that says "save to ini", this will save your changes to the program. Connect to the internet, and click on the "start" button at the top left of the VIRC program. A server window will pop up. Click on the connect button at the top left of the server window, you are now on the IRC network. to join the Saveourstate channel, type the following in the command line for the VIRC program. /join #saveourstate That's it, you're in. Now uninstall that damned Yahoo messenger before someone uses it to plant a trojan horse on your system. See you on IRC. Send me a PM if you're interested in being an operator for the IRC Channel. It's slow now, but I'm sure the goofballs will be following us over there shortly.
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JOE TURNER...by SOS=NAZIS Tuesday, Jun. 07, 2005 at 9:01 AMJoe Turner is a coward and hypocrite. If he we REALLY against illegal immigrants, we would go to Oxnard, the next city over from his hometown in Ventura. Oxnard is the strwbwerry capital of the world, and many thousands of illegal immigrants who are picking all these strawberries.
He should protest in front of a strawberry plantation, but most assuredly he would get his ass kicked by the local authorities as the strwaberry industry butters their bread!!! This fact leads me to conclude that Joe Turner and SOS are recruiting to start a race war or a fascist uprising
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INDY MEDIA NOT A NEWS ORGANIZATION, IT'S A SHAM COMMIE WEBSITEby INDY MEDIA NOT A NEWS ORGANIZATION, IT'S A SH Saturday, Jul. 09, 2005 at 12:13 PMSURE YOUR A LAWYER...PROBABLY MORE LIKE A LANDSCAPER.
AND IF YOU THINK INDY MEDIA IS A "NEWS ORGANIZATION" I SURE YOUR NOT A LAWYER...OR A REALLY CRAPPY LAWYER. A NEW ORGANIZATION....I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's on the left, above the shift key.by Sheepdog Saturday, Jul. 09, 2005 at 12:25 PMHa ha ha ha ha...
Ha ha ha... Sorry [gasp] I couldn't help myself. Thank you. Ahhh.
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Let's see.........by Fed Up Saturday, Jul. 09, 2005 at 5:39 PMPictures of the SOS group, have been posted in a manner with Malicious Intent, to intimidate, and provide a positive identification, for future harrassement, and or harm. To further enrage the oppostion to SOS, these pictures have now been publicly shown to intice a rather unruly element into a position of acting out aggression towards peaceful citizens... Calling this site a news orginization when in fact the above posted pictures have indeed broken the civil rights of those posted. Is it a hate crime?
Interesting tactic, but still, so one worldly socialistic... I'd say you're probably going to loose in a civil case for posting and identifing a citizen of the United States exercising their first amendment rights.... Hmmmm? I'm I a plant? Or vegitable? you decide.
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