The Rally against the Minutemen and the Save Our State group had its high and low points. There was of course the mad man that drove into the crowd, hitting a few people including the Executive Director of the LA Legal Guild (I would hate to be that driver), and the police attacking the crowd for no reason (thank you to all the video activists on the ground as we have the evidence against them), as the low points. In a lighter light though, the Minute Men and Save Our State now know that any time the are in the Orange County or Los Angeles area, they will always face opposition. Now for my picture by picture account of the events of the night. Before I get started, I want people to know what SOS is saying in regards to the lunatic driver, "Last Great Hope Posted: May 25 2005, 09:49 PM, "Of course the protesters initiated the incident. These lowlifes have shown time and time they aren't civil beings. They act like animals in situations like this. These are not intelligent people we are dealing with. This is Third World riff-raff with a racist chip on their shoulers and a huge inferiority complex. These people have failed at everything they've ever done and hate White America for it. If they got run over I am sure they asked for it. No tears for idiots. After Baldwin Park, I will never look at these people the same way again (to quote a friend who was there with me). Consider it payback for Dottie being attacked you scumbags." This demonstrates that they are not non-violent as they have claimed in the past, and that they are advocating violence. Though many of the people on our side have stated that we were against the act in Baldwin Park in regards to the bottle, their attitudes, actions, and disregard for human life is likely to upset a lot of people at future protests. My guess is that it will be a rally call to activists and our side will continue to grow in numbers.

The organizers to this event and the police were there by 5:30 pm. They had roped off the area and were preparing.

There is a poster on the Save Our State sight that is taking credit for insighting the police department. He claims to have encouraged the police to use these tatics against the protestors. He posts as 1inchgroup.

Around 6 pm they put up their banner like it was going to be seen from the road.

This goon said that I was not allowed to take a picture of him in the public. He obviously does not know anything about the free press or a person's right to take pictures of anything while in the public domain. But, if I were as ugly as he is, I wouldn't want my picture taken either. Anyway, have your lawyer contact me, so I can laugh at him.

Here is another, sue me again. Look, that old t-shirt isn't even clean. This guy has to be a Militia member, looks like he lives in some shack in the woods.

Okay, enough, I know, I just couldn't believe he dared me like that. What an idiot! I wander if he made it through the third grade.

The signs begin to arrive. Our message is clear, these facists are not welcome in our state.

Some people from the ISO arrived. They are a great group of people!

It is still 6:30pm (thirty minute early), and the people begin to stream in. By this time we had about 50 to 80 protesters there.

I am proud of their work and efforts. I hope to see them at future SOS/MM events!

They wave the flag like it stands for their hate. We are a land of immigrants, that flag is not yours and does not represent your views. My god, even the evil BUSH is against you (ironic to be on his side for once). You are not supported by the majority of Americans by the government of America. Why do you claim you are on the American side? It is like Zionists carrying a Nazi flag!

The ISO's Banner

They all were there to see the showdown.

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We should try to get their footage! It is public record and if we can get it, we can use it against them.

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It is only 6:40, and the demonstration continues to grow.

I never really thought about this statement, but it is true for many of them, "they didn't cross the border, the border crossed them"

Thank you very much 1Planet1People for all the postings all over IndyMedia. By curiosity did you sleep last night, probably not.

It's giving a more real feel to the whole event.

Re; The Goon, i will just bet this guy isn't living in any woods, that would be to earthy and healthy.
My guess is that he lives in the nearby "inland empire" suburb of Fontucky !

violence from the peaceful left(attack people and their property to prevent their access to events), intolerance towards freedom of speech(disrupt speaking engagements of all who don't agree with you), and don't forget threats, stalking(virtual and literal), and terror, yes terror, tactics to instill fear, destroy property,
and trample on peoples rights, all the while cultivating the "mob mentality" so crucial to allowing cowards to attack under the cloak of anonymity.
this country will continue to be the worlds best hope, not because of the morally cancerous left, but despite it. i am neither a "fundamentalist religionazi"(actually i tend to identify with buddist thought), nor am i a "militia member", "corporate goon", or any other "evil conservative". i am simply a citizen who is tired of watching fools try to argue their points by acting like ignorant, spoiled brats. how can anyone expect to be regarded in a serious light when they carry themselves with the dignity and selfrespect of a prehormonal juvenile who reserves the right to act in any undisciplined and selfindulgent manner, all the while screaming "it's not MY fault, THEY made me do it!". and before you accuse me of painting with too broad a brush, i accept that not everyone acts this way, but the majority condones it.
in closing, i would like to pose a question; "if you have had to work so hard, for so many years, to get people on board your platform, and you are still thinking that achieving success is "just around the corner", might you want to consider the possibility that most of this society DOES NOT share in your beliefs?"

If my wife came here legally from Vietnam, should she go because she wasn’t here “first”? Should the descendents of people who were here “first” have some sort of claim to this land that the descendents of white, black, Asian, Arab, Persian, Jew, etc. don’t have?




Who is “we” referenced here?




Isn't that a reference to an ethnic group? Doesn't it place a certain ethnic group in a higher standing than others? Isn't that - racist?




Way to go. I hope she doesn't grow up thinking "we" and "they" when she looks at ethnic groups. Hope she doesn't become a racist too.

Here, I'll try again.

If my wife came here legally from Vietnam, should she go because she wasn’t here “first”? Should the descendents of people who were here “first” have some sort of claim to this land that the descendents of white, black, Asian, Arab, Persian, Jew, etc. don’t have?

Who is “we” referenced here?

Isn't that a reference to an ethnic group? Doesn't it place a certain ethnic group in a higher standing than others? Isn't that - racist?

Way to go. I hope she doesn't grow up thinking "we" and "they" when she looks at ethnic groups. Hope she doesn't become a racist too.

There, that should get the message across.

My family originally came from Europe. No one is seriously trying to get us to leave. The point is, if we want to live here, remember the people who had claim before us. I would not move to Costa Rica, invite a bunch of Americans, and then tell Costa Rican's that they were not allowed to live with us. That would be stupid, but that is exactly what America is trying to do. We drove them (at gun point) south of the Rio, and then told them to stay out of their land. If we want to live here, we have a moral duty to share it with those that were here before us. If you won't, well there are those of us here that understand, and will fight for their right to return (just like Palestine). The only reason the leaders of this country did not keep going south was that there were just too many people to displace, so we only displaced those in California, Texas, New Mexico, etc. It was taken through terrorism, by terrorists.

"Here is another, sue me again. Look, that old t-shirt isn't even clean. This guy has to be a Militia member, looks like he lives in some shack in the woods."

I think this is awefully judgemental from the "compassionate left" what if he was some well fed homeless person who happened to find himself a camera.

I just want everyone to know that all photos are real... I used poor word usage by saying doctored... I meant to mean one sided... nonetheless... I'm sorry to 1planet , ...his photos are 100 percent real!!!

Unbiased OUT

You’re right. I was poking fun at him because he was a real jerk who came up to me and out of no-where started saying that if I published any picture of him he would sue me. But, a person's economic level does not determine a person's worth. So you are right, my comments could easily be offensive to people, and I did not intend on insulting others. I am sorry for that.

"Way to go. I hope she doesn't grow up thinking "we" and "they" when she looks at ethnic groups. Hope she doesn't become a racist too."

What do you mean by "grow up"? Did you marry a child?

To whom it may concern:

I would like to request persmission to use some of the photos of the Garden Grove demonstration on our web site at www.ocorganizer.com and in the newspaper, Orange County Organizer, but I am not sure who to contact. The photos would accompany two interviews, one with Jim Gilchrist, another with Dr. Gilbert Gonzalez, on the immigration controversy, US Imperialism, etc. Please contact me asap at the email address above (john@ocorganizer.com) Thank you very much!
John Earl