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Garden Grove: From Where I Stood

by Leslie Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 8:40 AM
Leslie@radiojustice.net

A report on Garden Grove, from the street.

A car plowed without hesitation through the protestors picketing at the driveway, knocking two to the ground. Reportedly, the woman on the ground called out for the other to move his feet, the car’s rear wheels were going to run over them. He managed to pull away. I didn’t see the incident. But as I came away from the boisterous crowd on Chapman shouting “Racists Go Home!” with drums and whistles, and debating a Cuban refugee from the Minutemen, and rounded the corner toward the driveway, the steel-blue anger in people’s eyes was unmistakable.

The police in the parking lot quietly checked the driver’s license, casually conversing with him while the protestors began shouting for his arrest. Two of the Minutemen crossed the picket line on foot; a scuffle broke out; one of the protestors was thrown to the ground, handcuffed, and led by police to the parking lot. The quiet questioning of the driver continued until he, too, was taken away. The green-hatted legal observer shook his head.

We waited for the 150 or so Minutemen to end their meeting. The protesting crowd waxed and waned, perhaps as few as 200, as many as 300, webs of side conversations undeterred by the nonstop chants. Two white Minutemen, one parading a large U.S. flag and the other sporting a flag-colored tie under his cowboy hat and vest, were joined off and on by others in the parking lot as they mocked the mostly-Chicano protestors from behind the safety of the 30-member police line.

As I stood a couple of hundred feet north of the driveway on Gilbert, a uniformed arm reached across the police line and grabbed a protestor’s collar while the man had his back turned, talking with friends. The protestor was dragged to the parking lot, thrown on the ground, handcuffed, and taken away. We were stunned; no one knew why it had happened.

At 8:30 p.m., the police lowered their visors, mounted police started moving, batons were readied, and the police helicopter began circling. It was clear that the meeting, 500 feet away behind sliding glass doors, was breaking up. A woman came out on the porch facing Gilbert and waved her ass at the protestors in a taunting dance that lasted several minutes, apparently to trying to distract the unperturbed protestors, while the rest of the Minutemen were escorted out a back door through the darkness to their cars.

Then the police moved in, in riot gear and on horseback, forcing protestors into the street on Gilbert, toward Chapman, north of the driveway. A caravan of cars pulled out, turning south and driving into the dark, the “victims” of an occasional water bottle.

We were at a standoff. Several batons were raised and lowered at a particular spot in the crowd. The police moved forward; the crowd stepped back. A few minutes later, out of no where, five or six cops on foot rushed the crowd from the southwest to the northeast, threw a young man no more than five feet from me to the ground and handcuffed him, as demonstrators scurried under police legs to reach out to their fallen friend. The police encircled him waving batons and pepper spray cans to back the protestors away. The young man, who had done nothing while I was facing him, disappeared into a phalanx of police.

The police stormed the crowd, batons raised, horses driven forward. The crowd dispersed down Gilbert.

About thirty protestors rendezvoused at the Garden Grove police station and began a vigil for those being booked, encouraging those held inside with circling pickets and chants. Between five and ten police looked on from the steps. Protestors gathered the names of those being held, and the police revealed to the protestors’ negotiator that, in all, seven people were being transported from the booking center to county jail for arraignment on felony charges. One of them was being charged with deadly assault with an automobile.
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excelllent report

by bruce Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 11:50 AM

Leslie's report is about as great as it gets on objectively what happened last night. Thanks!!

LA Times and other junkers are getting all kinds of things wrong, so keep coming on with truth.
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Leslie is a big Fricking LIAR

by Honcho Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 4:00 AM

We all know the truth Horse lover Leslie!

La Raza and her friends crashed the CCIR event and caused all the trouble.
You are only making La Raza look bad!
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LA RAZA isn't going to win

by Honcho Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 4:02 AM

La RAZA
WE ARE FIGHTING TO THE DEATH!

YOU WILL LOSE JUST LIKE IN 1848!

BY THE WAY MEXICO ONLY CLAIMED THE U.S. FOR
27 YEARS.

WHY DO YOU FEEL YOU OWN IT?
DUMBASSES!
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We were here first pilgrims?

by Honcho Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 4:12 AM

Mexicanos

Does the truth hurt that bad?
Mexico only claimed the U.S. for 27 years.

The Spanish had the American Southwest for over

500 years!

La Raza? Why is the southwest yours? Hahahahha

As usual you make asses of yourself
No one respects YOU. Hahahahah-
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Pathetic Lies

by Unbiased_Va Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 6:13 AM

Theres video tape confiming violent protestors throwing bags full of marbles, kicking cars, surrounding cars.... Photos can be doctored... video can not. All politics put aside....watch the video. Theres reasons why people aren't charged... VIDEO can't lie.
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Coconut Hispanics are joining Save our State

by RAMSEY Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 7:35 AM

Coconut Hispanics are joining Save our State

Hahahahahahahahha

La Raza will lose and so will Mexico!
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Intersting....

by PunkNosed Kid Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 7:36 AM

If a video is simply moving photos, then naive me always assumed they could be doctored. Hence the ability of programs like Apple™ Motion and Adobe™ After Effects and Premiere.

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By the term" doctored"

by Unbiased_VA Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 10:26 AM

I meant... planned out... only one person had "MINOR injuries" yet, photos showed it like it was a suicide bombing. Just propaganda.... From the garden grove police...
Netkin was released after police watched a videotape that showed protesters surrounding the vehicle, banging on it and refusing to move, said Garden Grove Police Lt. Mike Handfield. About 300 protesters at the scene were “trying to intimidate him and refused to let him pass,” Handfield said. By night’s end, five demonstrators had been arrested.

{snip}

The protesters blocked the entrance and tossed soda cans and cans packed with marbles at police and attendees, Handfield said. They kicked, banged and threw rocks at cars; some wore latex gloves and hoods so they wouldn’t be identified by police, Handfield said. Some attendees decided not to enter the building because they feared violence.

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Re: By the term" doctored"

by The Morrígan Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 11:09 AM

Reality check: the cops say they have a video that exonerates them, so it must be true. Who's seen it? You, "Unbiased"?

We have witnesses, the cops have Handfield, so, according to the "Unbiased" comments, the demonstrators are liars, the cops are telling the truth.

"All politics put aside" my ass. Politics according to Unbiased_Va are that the police must be right be telling the truth because they're the police. I don't know anyone who's fallen for that one in forty years, except a few yokels up in the hills.
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All photos are real...my apoliges to 1planet

by Unbiased_VA Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 11:11 AM

I just want everyone to know that all photos are real... I used poor word usage by saying doctored... I meant to mean one sided... nonetheless... I'm sorry to 1planet , ...his photos are 100 percent real!!!

Unbiased OUT
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Lying AGAIN

by Hellfire USA Tuesday, May. 31, 2005 at 8:12 PM

Quote:
"A car plowed without hesitation through the protestors picketing at the driveway..."

LIAR. His car was attacked by Mexican fanatics and pro-illegal immigration zealots. Hal stopped his car during the assault before logic and reason kicked in and told him to get the fuck out of dodge. The two protestors knocked down faked their injuries and the videos prove it.

Can IndyMedia scum do ANYTHING else than LIE???
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SOVIET LESLIE LIES

by We American know it! Friday, Jun. 03, 2005 at 7:17 AM

Soviet Leslie lies through the teeth,
and all of America is watching La Raza and their lies.
Leslie I hear you hail from Clovis New Mexico?

You lying bitch!
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That was exciting

by harper Friday, Jun. 03, 2005 at 7:40 AM

The "man" held you all down again I guess? Wow that's tough. Almost as bad as having the police come to your protest and order you to all go home or be arrested (like what has happened to Minutemen meetings and assemblies in other states).

Your vivid descriptions of absolutely nothing were very moving. I only wish that the screaming, obnoxious, hate-filled protestors with their everyone's-a-nazi-and-a-fascist-but-me signs could of been so "objective"
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