With threats of violence, large numbers of legal observers and video activists are urgently necessary to insure the safety of those protesting in Garden Grove. They are using the Internet to insight an anti-communist frenzy in Vietnamese populations, are opening threatening Duane Roberts, and are discussing assaulting people exercising their freedom of speech on public sidewalks. There have been several announcements of this over the public airways, and if major organizations choose not to attend, the right wing vigilantes may attack the peaceful protestors. Below is a stream on their conversation. Spread the word that this MUST be larger than BP if it is going to remain safe. If you cannot attend, you may wish to email people you know so everyone knows about it.
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infoabout Posted: May 21 2005, 10:54 AM
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/12665...ment.php#126812 http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/nunca.pdf "I'm sending this message out to make people aware of
the fact that Jim Gilchrist, the founder of the
fascist "Minuteman Project", will be speaking at the
Garden Grove Women's Club on Wednesday, May 25th at
7:30 pm.
Gilchrist has been invited to speak there by the
California Coalition for Immigration Reform
(C.C.I.R.), one of the groups responsible for putting
the racist Proposition 187 on the California ballot in
1994.
I live a couple of miles away from the Garden Grove
Women's Club, and I know as a fact there is a fairly
long public sidewalk that surrounds the building which
houses it. It's also right next to a major street.
Although I'm not currently involved in organizing a
counterdemonstration, I think one definitely needs to
take place! We need to show our strong opposition to
racism, fascism, and xenophobia!
Sincerely,
Duane J. Roberts
Comments
He is going to get slammed
If even a 10th of the people that came out for Baldwin Hills show up for this, that guy will need a police escort to get in and out of that hall.
Idea: Dress up like neo-cons and buy a ticket to get in. It' s worth the five bucks just for a chance to rush the stage and grab the mic. :-)
Also they will have to sneak him in and out of the back. So be sure to picket the building on all sides. Not just the front.
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Last Great Hope Posted: May 21 2005, 11:00 AM
Anyone wanna meet up to support Gilchrist and chase off the Mechista traitors?
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infoabout Posted: May 21 2005, 11:02 AM
Activist
Group: Members
Posts: 65
Member No.: 526
Joined: 12-May 05
I am in.
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BlackCatsinOntario Posted: May 21 2005, 11:03 AM
Patriot
Group: Members
Posts: 571
Member No.: 34
Joined: 5-December 04
What can I say? These anarchists and socialists are becoming more committed and more aggressive. I think it is about time that we do the same.
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If you think California is part of Mexico, not the United States, then how come the Geography books are laughing at you?
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SOSrules Posted: May 21 2005, 12:38 PM
Activist
Group: Members
Posts: 51
Member No.: 690
Joined: 18-May 05
the "mechistas" are gonna get their asses kicked in the OC!!!!!
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davidik80 Posted: May 21 2005, 01:32 PM
support Gilchrist
- No problem!
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Oldpreach Posted: May 21 2005, 02:54 PM
Sitting on the border makes you all those things ? Wow, guess I have major problems.
They are just mad that the Aztlan jig is finally up. They rush the stage or whatever...there will be trouble behind the orange curtain.
Also, a copy of this email should be walked in the the local PD of that area. They are planning things and saying threatening things like "he will need a police escort !" What does this imply.
The police need to be aware of this, period.
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Its mainly due to the USA that you are not saying "Thank you Hitler, or Stalin" while counting your food ration.
"If you are not thankful to the USA, and proud to wave its flag, you are no friend of mine."
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1inchgroup Posted: May 21 2005, 03:58 PM
Everyone here should do a google search for this guy's name "Duane J. Roberts"
Very informative....know your enemy. Thanks infoabout for the heads up.
This guy's about as batty as a moonbat can get
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"There are three kinds of people in this world," Johnston says. "Dick$, as$holes and pus$ies. We're dick$, and the rest of the world are pus$ies. But sometimes an as$hole comes along and wants to sh!t all over everyone, and the only kind of person who can fvck an as$hole is a d!ck, because pus$ies are just an inch away from being as$holes themselves." (Diplomatically, Johnston concedes, "Sometimes dick$ fvck as$holes at inappropriate times, and they need pus$ies to guide them in the right direction.")
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Oldpreach Posted: May 21 2005, 04:45 PM
He IS the whole kitchen sink, that is for sure. The only thing missing is a connection to pacifica radio....oh , wait a minute....well well well, looks like KPFK should be proud of their own !!!
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Its mainly due to the USA that you are not saying "Thank you Hitler, or Stalin" while counting your food ration.
"If you are not thankful to the USA, and proud to wave its flag, you are no friend of mine."
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infoabout Posted: May 21 2005, 05:35 PM
Here is his home page:
http://www.smartvoter.org/2002/03/05/ca/or/vote/roberts_d/ http://www.geocities.com/duaneroberts2002/Issues.html ************************************************
1inchgroup Posted: May 21 2005, 05:44 PM
Odd that the same guy would be a Green Party member, yet still show up on the Marxist Mailing list / bulletin boards...
Assclown. We'd be better off ignoring this fuc'tard...he's an undecided moonbat.
from some board...somewhere...
One word: Clinton (and not even that “good", possibly).
Actually, 2004 will turn out to be the best of all possible worlds for the Greens… we’ll either see an outright fascist re-elected (Bush) and get four more years of concrete evidence of the Democratic Party’s inability to act as an effective opposition (thus driving even more people into the hands of the Green Party), or we’ll get another neo-liberal “moderate” pro-business Democrat who will throughly disappoint just about everyone who worked to put him in office and throughly piss off a whole bunch of people, driving them into the hands of the Green Party.
2008 will be a banner year, I predict.
Thomas
> (Forwarded from a Vermonter):
>
> The International Socialist Review has recently
> published what I think is perhaps one of the most
> devasting critiques of Ex-Vermont Governor Howard Dean
> that I’ve ever seen anywhere in print. It exposes Dean
> for the fraud he truly is: a deceitful and
> manipulative “pro-business, Rockefeller Republican”
> war candidate who is using phony populist rhetoric to
> win the Democratic Party nomination for President.
> This article is a must read for those who have
> convinced themselves that voting Democrat in the next
> Presidential election is going to change things in
> this country. It will not.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Duane J. Roberts
>
duaneroberts92804@yahoo.com >
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"There are three kinds of people in this world," Johnston says. "Dick$, as$holes and pus$ies. We're dick$, and the rest of the world are pus$ies. But sometimes an as$hole comes along and wants to sh!t all over everyone, and the only kind of person who can fvck an as$hole is a d!ck, because pus$ies are just an inch away from being as$holes themselves." (Diplomatically, Johnston concedes, "Sometimes dick$ fvck as$holes at inappropriate times, and they need pus$ies to guide them in the right direction.")
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EastCoastGrannie Posted: May 21 2005, 05:54 PM
Help Wanted: Community Organizer
Notice Roberts occupation "community organizer". How do you get a job like that! I guess that means the taxpayers pay his salary. You know why these commie moonbats are so angry- they can't get real jobs. They have to sponge off the taxpayers. There is an army of these professional trouble maker sponges all feeding out of the public trough. Congress needs to look into all of these "community organizer" organizations and cut off their funding. Then they will have to do there trouble making on their own time.
EastCoastGrannie
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1inchgroup Posted: May 21 2005, 05:58 PM
*******PLEASE POST WIDELY***************
There will be a protest of the appearance of the founder of the racist
vigilante organization the "Minutemen" on
Wednesday May 25 at 6:30pm
at the site of the appearance of Jim Gilchrist of the Minutemen at the
Woman's Club
9501 Chapman Ave.
Garden Grove, CA
(north of the 22 off Brookhurst at Gilbert)
FUPA - the Comite Pro Democracia de Mexico, Aztlan Mexica Nation /
Harmony Circle, Danza Cuatemoc and Mexicanos Unidos has determined to
be there.
The International Socialist Organization is also organizing.
Let's drive them back and out - just like we did in Baldwin Park.
No, douchebag...we left at 2:00, right on schedule. Oh, right...the only way you can get people to support you is to lie...
No Peace - No Place for Racist Vigilantes!
Can I quote you on that when you start screaming whitey go home?
The California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR)is holding a
public meeting featuring Jim Gilchrist, founder of the extreme right
wing vigilante anti-immigrant Minuteman Project.
CCRI, which pushed Prop. 187 in 1994, is now seeking to build support
for a more open and brutal campaign of terror and intimidation against
Mexican, Salvadoran Guatemalan and other immiigrants, and against all
indigenous Spanish speaking peoples.
They're hoping to build momentum for actions by the Minutemen later
this summer in Southern California.
We have a different future in mind.
Gee, what a surprise. They're going after seniors again.
Set up a tape loop in the parking lot outside repeating the word "pussy" over and over again.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the parking lot for the Center is part of that Center's property...CCIR is renting out the space for the night. Tresspassing charges should be filed the second these fuc'tards step off the sidewalk and approach the building.
GG PD has been informed.
A search at
http://www.kartoo.com/ is pretty cool too. Add it to your bookmarks if you haven't already. Good resource
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"There are three kinds of people in this world," Johnston says. "Dick$, as$holes and pus$ies. We're dick$, and the rest of the world are pus$ies. But sometimes an as$hole comes along and wants to sh!t all over everyone, and the only kind of person who can fvck an as$hole is a d!ck, because pus$ies are just an inch away from being as$holes themselves." (Diplomatically, Johnston concedes, "Sometimes dick$ fvck as$holes at inappropriate times, and they need pus$ies to guide them in the right direction.")
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BlackCatsinOntario Posted: May 21 2005, 06:22 PM
The building is located at the NE corner of Gilbert and Chapman Ave. There's plenty of parking around the building. I think there are two or three driveways that allow cars get in the parking lot. Yes, it is a private property and the mob can't be allowed in the premises to inflict any harm. I will for sure to be on a defense mode if any of them enter the building. Barb Coe have every rights to refuse to allow angry mobs to gain entrance. My concern is that Duane is encouraging the angry mobs to pay $5 to get in and grab the microphone during the meeting and destructing CCIR's meeting. That's why, when I said I am on the defense mode, Duane and his cronies better think twice before harming Barb and her members.
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If you think California is part of Mexico, not the United States, then how come the Geography books are laughing at you?
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1inchgroup Posted: May 21 2005, 06:27 PM
Just got off the phone with the watch commander for GGPD. The Lt. in charge of that section of town will be back Monday morning, he's already got a voicemail from me and a request to call back.
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"There are three kinds of people in this world," Johnston says. "Dick$, as$holes and pus$ies. We're dick$, and the rest of the world are pus$ies. But sometimes an as$hole comes along and wants to sh!t all over everyone, and the only kind of person who can fvck an as$hole is a d!ck, because pus$ies are just an inch away from being as$holes themselves." (Diplomatically, Johnston concedes, "Sometimes dick$ fvck as$holes at inappropriate times, and they need pus$ies to guide them in the right direction.")
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I'mwithya Posted: May 21 2005, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (Last Great Hope @ May 21 2005, 11:00 AM)
Anyone wanna meet up to support Gilchrist and chase off the Mechista traitors?
I'll be there!
I guess this idiotic La Raza still doesn't get it?
More bad publicity for La Raza I guess?
La Raza is trying to stop freedom of speech and freedom of expression in the U.S.
I want to be there badly!
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I'mwithya Posted: May 21 2005, 07:46 PM
QUOTE (I'mwithya @ May 21 2005, 07:36 PM)
QUOTE (Last Great Hope @ May 21 2005, 11:00 AM)
Anyone wanna meet up to support Gilchrist and chase off the Mechista traitors?
I'll be there!
I guess this idiotic La Raza still doesn't get it?
More bad publicity for La Raza I guess?
La Raza is trying to stop freedom of speech and freedom of expression in the U.S.
I want to be there badly!
Weird
I was just thinking of the A**holes trying to cause more problems.
Will be interesting to see them there in the flesh!!!!!
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I'mwithya Posted: May 21 2005, 08:09 PM
Did you read the comments? They are funny!!!
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1inchgroup Posted: May 21 2005, 08:54 PM
Tim Binh, ThangdaTrang...a couple others I think might be involved, but can't remember their names. Wouldn't this be a good opportunity to let the people of Little Saigon know that Marxists, Socialists, and Communists are going to attempt a rally in their neck of the woods?
I'm getting nowhere, the few numbers I have found....are answered of course, in Vietnamese. I'm not fluent. Just know the bad words.
The city of Garden Grove has prohibited the visitation of Communist Foreigners to their land...how do they feel about Communist Americans?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/05/23/viet...s.ap/index.html --------------------
"There are three kinds of people in this world," Johnston says. "Dick$, as$holes and pus$ies. We're dick$, and the rest of the world are pus$ies. But sometimes an as$hole comes along and wants to sh!t all over everyone, and the only kind of person who can fvck an as$hole is a d!ck, because pus$ies are just an inch away from being as$holes themselves." (Diplomatically, Johnston concedes, "Sometimes dick$ fvck as$holes at inappropriate times, and they need pus$ies to guide them in the right direction.")
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I'mwithya Posted: May 22 2005, 07:14 AM
Found these links the their message boards if it will help?
http://www.alloexpat.com/vietnam_expat_forum/ http://www.big-boards.com/highlight/1221/ ************************************************
William Posted: May 22 2005, 07:45 AM
QUOTE (Last Great Hope @ May 21 2005, 11:00 AM)
Anyone wanna meet up to support Gilchrist and chase off the Mechista traitors?
Sounds like a good idea. I might even bring my "Commie-Be-Good" stick to keep the lefties in line.
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Only war can change things now.
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occutegirl Posted: May 22 2005, 09:16 AM
QUOTE
like neo-cons
I don't get it. Neo cons support open borders.??
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George III didn't like the Minutemen either.
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William Posted: May 22 2005, 09:58 AM
QUOTE (occutegirl @ May 22 2005, 09:16 AM)
QUOTE
like neo-cons
I don't get it. Neo cons support open borders.??
The communists are confused. Neo-Cons are the invaders' friends. Neo-Cons support open borders. Neo-Cons care more about the border security of their beloved Israel & Iraq than they do the border security of the US.
It's traditional American Conservatives--not Neo-Cons--who support border security and immigration reform.
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Only war can change things now.
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1inchgroup Posted: May 22 2005, 10:56 AM
The communists are confused
There's an understatment...
Found the National Congress of Vietnamese Americans thanks to the links above....sent them a message, their board doesn't look too active though.
What a surprise for those Communist/Marxist/Socialist Open Borders for Mexico guys. Hopefully there'll be 10,000 screaming pissed off Americans showing up again.
Remember the liquor store....don't come to Garden Grove with Communist symbols.
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"There are three kinds of people in this world," Johnston says. "Dick$, as$holes and pus$ies. We're dick$, and the rest of the world are pus$ies. But sometimes an as$hole comes along and wants to sh!t all over everyone, and the only kind of person who can fvck an as$hole is a d!ck, because pus$ies are just an inch away from being as$holes themselves." (Diplomatically, Johnston concedes, "Sometimes dick$ fvck as$holes at inappropriate times, and they need pus$ies to guide them in the right direction.")
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SOSrules Posted: May 22 2005, 12:06 PM
QUOTE (William @ May 22 2005, 09:58 AM)
QUOTE (occutegirl @ May 22 2005, 09:16 AM)
QUOTE
like neo-cons
I don't get it. Neo cons support open borders.??
The communists are confused. Neo-Cons are the invaders' friends. Neo-Cons support open borders. Neo-Cons care more about the border security of their beloved Israel & Iraq than they do the border security of the US.
It's traditional American Conservatives--not Neo-Cons--who support border security and immigration reform.
DARN STRAIGHT!!!!
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infoabout Posted: May 22 2005, 05:29 PM
****FLYER POSTED FROM INDYMEDIA****
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ManifestDestinySucks Posted: May 22 2005, 05:33 PM
El pueblo unido! Jamás será vencido!
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barbibichn Posted: May 22 2005, 05:35 PM
I have it on good word that la migre will be there, so bring your green cards.
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infoabout Posted: May 22 2005, 05:41 PM
Update:
About the Sponsor
I'm ashamed that a group of women are hosting this California take-over. You can call the Women's Civic Club of Garden Grove at (714) 539-2727 to register your objection.
Just checked out the sponsors of this effort to organize CA against its immigrant residents. The California Coalition for Immigration Reform homepage (
http://ccir.net/index.html) proudly proclaims itself to be a co-sponsor of Prop. 187 and has such charming headlines as "See Who's Contributing to the Likes of Maldef," "Get Your Copy of the New CCIR Audio CD.....'The Takeover of America;" and "Meet the Mechista Weasel Who Wants to Be LA's Next Mayorista." There's a link to a site that wants a state border patrol (as they say, like the CHP) . The only mention of _illegal_ aliens is a phone number to (877) - NO-ILLEGALS.
I hear there's some organizing going on, but, depending on what that leadership says, I plan on being there on Wednesday, say 6:00 (it starts at 7:30). It's $5 to get in the door.
Remember the roust in Baldwin Park. Yes, we can.
Directions (30 miles from downtown, allow for rush hour) from the 101S:
1: Merge onto I-5 S via the exit on the LEFT toward SANTA ANA. 20.2 miles
2: Take the BROOKHURST ST exit toward LA PALMA AVE. 0.3 miles
3: Turn RIGHT onto N BROOKHURST ST. 3.8 miles
4: Turn RIGHT onto CHAPMAN AVE. 0.4 miles
5: Turn SHARP LEFT to stay on CHAPMAN AVE. <0.1 miles
6: End at 9501 Chapman Ave, Garden Grove, CA 92841-2704, US
Author: Leslie
Link:
Posted: Sunday May 22, 2005 05:13 AM
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/12665...ment.php#126812 ************************************************
ManifestDestinySucks Posted: May 22 2005, 05:42 PM
Yeah, bring YOURS too.
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Oldpreach Posted: May 22 2005, 05:44 PM
This is defamation. If anyone has the source, they need to give this flyer and any information to Gilchrist, hand delivered.
This is past sick, and is very inciteful material. A riot can happen because of circulating material like this.
Of course, no one laid a finger on any illegals at MMP, but this sure seems to suggest that some were...or even killed for that matter !
There has to be a legality issue here with this.
Anyone that can give their attorney a call on this, it would be a very good thing to do.
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Its mainly due to the USA that you are not saying "Thank you Hitler, or Stalin" while counting your food ration.
"If you are not thankful to the USA, and proud to wave its flag, you are no friend of mine."
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ManifestDestinySucks Posted: May 22 2005, 05:51 PM
I see nothing wrong with the flyer. It's perfect! Excellent picture choice!
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BlackCatsinOntario Posted: May 22 2005, 05:55 PM
QUOTE (ManifestDestinySucks @ May 22 2005, 05:51 PM)
I see nothing wrong with the flyer. It's perfect! Excellent picture choice!
So, you are showing your true colors? Time for a good old boot from Joe!
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If you think California is part of Mexico, not the United States, then how come the Geography books are laughing at you?
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Oldpreach Posted: May 22 2005, 05:55 PM
I have e-mailed indymedia telling them to take it down before damage to Gilchrist's reputation is done and they are sued even if they take it down later.
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Its mainly due to the USA that you are not saying "Thank you Hitler, or Stalin" while counting your food ration.
"If you are not thankful to the USA, and proud to wave its flag, you are no friend of mine."
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ohighlass Posted: May 22 2005, 05:57 PM
I am definitely sick of the little puke myself. Such a big mouth coming all the way from New Mexico. He sure feels safe on the other side of the computer screen, doesn't he?
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Oldpreach Posted: May 22 2005, 05:58 PM
MDS, sounds like a sickness to me...anyway.
It figures you would say that...however , an attorney would say otherwise.
I think I might just join cats in personally asking Joe to boot you. You are way over the top on this one, and I for one am done with statements like what you have just made.
Like you care about being here anyway, so why should we have to read your vomit.
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Its mainly due to the USA that you are not saying "Thank you Hitler, or Stalin" while counting your food ration.
"If you are not thankful to the USA, and proud to wave its flag, you are no friend of mine."
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Last Great Hope Posted: May 22 2005, 06:01 PM
QUOTE (ManifestDestinySucks @ May 22 2005, 05:51 PM)
I see nothing wrong with the flyer. It's perfect! Excellent picture choice!
You see nothing wrong with it because you are, like most of the pro-invasion Mexi-cretins, dedicated to spreading lies, hatred and total disinformation about the true nature of the Minuteman project. Go away troll.
SOS, isn't it time to send MDS packing or at least confined to the Dissenter's room?
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The US federal government is hereby found GUILTY of openly conspiring with the corrupt nation of Mexico in an attempt to import Mexico's poorest and most uneducated into our homeland.
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ManifestDestinySucks Posted: May 22 2005, 06:02 PM
It's an excellent choice given the nature of what was going on during that time period. It was turbulent and hateful to say the least. Are you disputing the fact that you people are not as hateful and murderous as your granpappies reveal here in this picture, since you all advocate setting up booby traps along the border, Marine target practice and what not?
You know that if you really had your way, this is exactly what you'd like to do, and that goes far beyond any cause against "illegal immigration."
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ohighlass Posted: May 22 2005, 06:04 PM
that's a big 10-4
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ohighlass Posted: May 22 2005, 06:05 PM
delete I just remembered, I refuse to respond to him. But to all of you out there, but MFD, that's a big 10-4 to his comment. Now, SOS, please, release the hounds and remove the troll.
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ManifestDestinySucks Posted: May 22 2005, 06:06 PM
And stop calling me a troll! I don't have that kind of hair!
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globetroter Posted: May 22 2005, 06:08 PM
In regards to the poster, I have E-mailed a copy to the tombstonetumbleweed so they will know whats going on here.
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1inchgroup Posted: May 22 2005, 06:15 PM
Members only meeting. Problem solved.
If non members step foot inside the parking lot, the Garden Grove PD will be called for tresspassing. You will be asked to leave once.
That's the way I'd run it if it were mine.
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"There are three kinds of people in this world," Johnston says. "Dick$, as$holes and pus$ies. We're dick$, and the rest of the world are pus$ies. But sometimes an as$hole comes along and wants to sh!t all over everyone, and the only kind of person who can fvck an as$hole is a d!ck, because pus$ies are just an inch away from being as$holes themselves." (Diplomatically, Johnston concedes, "Sometimes dick$ fvck as$holes at inappropriate times, and they need pus$ies to guide them in the right direction.")
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ohighlass Posted: May 22 2005, 06:21 PM
I love it. Over on indymedia, some gal named Leslie is encouranging her people to show up at 6 PM.
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Oldpreach Posted: May 22 2005, 06:47 PM
Well, if someone here advocates deadly traps, and shooting those coming across the border, they are no friend of mine.
Also, I take offense at you saying that I would want such a thing. I am also sure that most here would not want that either. Stop using the few to tag the many. I dont do that to you. I have no idea if your a screaming loon like some of those at BP were....most were not actually. But I would say that about 30 to 40% were pretty loony, or downright full of hate that day.
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Its mainly due to the USA that you are not saying "Thank you Hitler, or Stalin" while counting your food ration.
"If you are not thankful to the USA, and proud to wave its flag, you are no friend of mine."
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I'mwithya Posted: May 22 2005, 06:54 PM
QUOTE (ManifestDestinySucks @ May 22 2005, 06:02 PM)
It's an excellent choice given the nature of what was going on during that time period. It was turbulent and hateful to say the least. Are you disputing the fact that you people are not as hateful and murderous as your granpappies reveal here in this picture, since you all advocate setting up booby traps along the border, Marine target practice and what not?
You know that if you really had your way, this is exactly what you'd like to do, and that goes far beyond any cause against "illegal immigration."
Manifest Destiny refuses to admit that a 66 year old American was nearly murdered
while peacefully protesting in Baldwin Park!
Destiny: Why not place a photo of Dottie Dalton in here after the cowardly assault?
There were small American children in the American crowd as well, the Chicanos
del Norte could have killed the kids just as well!
Where are you photos of this assault???? Coward!
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I'mwithya Posted: May 22 2005, 06:56 PM
QUOTE (ManifestDestinySucks @ May 22 2005, 06:06 PM)
And stop calling me a troll! I don't have that kind of hair!
You are a troll Manifest!
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Shark Posted: May 22 2005, 07:00 PM
Moderator, Manifest is trying to spread viruses, check dissenters are for recq101 link, virus alert.
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SaveOurState Posted: May 22 2005, 07:33 PM
QUOTE (ohighlass @ May 22 2005, 07:05 PM)
delete I just remembered, I refuse to respond to him. But to all of you out there, but MFD, that's a big 10-4 to his comment. Now, SOS, please, release the hounds and remove the troll.
MDS
has been suspended for 7 days. been out of touch all weekend until now.
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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
- Barry Goldwater
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infoabout Posted: May 22 2005, 07:54 PM
--------- Please Forward --------
Has anyone informed anarchist Duane Roberts (of the Green Party, who apparently lives in Garden Grove) that his plans to attempt to deprive Americans of freedom of assembly and speech at the CCIR monthly meeting Wednesday night is illegal? Also, using the communication wires to make such threats is illegal.
Duane Roberts should get a lawyer...quick. He will need one. So will his mis-informed followers who attempt suppression of an exercise of the First Amendment of the Constitution
of the United States.
Duane Roberts, and his followers, are selfish opportunists who will resort to criminal behavior to prevent anyone from expressing a differing point of view. Inside his ghoulish heart is a sociopathic Nazi just waiting to leap out.
Duane Roberts is one of the unintellectual low-life neo-cons who lust for attention by way of violent confrontations. Such actions solve nothing...but create even more dissension among masses of people and gives someone like Duane Roberts a sick satisfaction that he has caused carnage, mayhem, death and destruction. To himself, he is a magnificent wonder. To the rational and objective he is a sick and tormented loser in his attempts to be elected to political office.
Ignore his rantings. Stand for your right to freely assemble and speak under the First Amendment. It is your inalienable right, Americans. Use it, lest bombastic, delusional,
self-acclaimed icons like Duane Roberts forever deprive you of that right.
Finally, as far as Duane Roberts or anyone else taking a microphone away from me to prevent me from speaking under the First Amendment while I am on the stage Wednesday night: That will be over my dead body. As a Marine, I would never let anyone take my rifle from me. As a public speaker in the USA, I will never let anyone take my microphone. I rest my case.
I leave you with a famous quote. Please forward it to the self-acclaimed anarchist Duane Roberts. It was spoken by someone with a far reaching vision who refused to let the politically correct paralysis of the pre-60s era prevent him from taking his people out of bondage...the same kind of bondage into which Duane Roberts is attempting to enslave Americans by threats and intimidation.
"We can transform bleak and desolate valleys into sunlit paths of joy, and bring new light into the dark caverns of pessimism."
-Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Jim Gilchrist, Founder - The Minuteman Project
And another quote:
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." --Samuel Adams
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1inchgroup Posted: May 22 2005, 08:24 PM
And yet another...Walk softly, but carry a big stick. -Roosevelt
Finally, as far as Duane Roberts or anyone else taking a microphone away from me to prevent me from speaking under the First Amendment while I am on the stage Wednesday night: That will be over my dead body. As a Marine, I would never let anyone take my rifle from me. As a public speaker in the USA, I will never let anyone take my microphone. I rest my case.
Guess he's not scared...huh?
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"There are three kinds of people in this world," Johnston says. "Dick$, as$holes and pus$ies. We're dick$, and the rest of the world are pus$ies. But sometimes an as$hole comes along and wants to sh!t all over everyone, and the only kind of person who can fvck an as$hole is a d!ck, because pus$ies are just an inch away from being as$holes themselves." (Diplomatically, Johnston concedes, "Sometimes dick$ fvck as$holes at inappropriate times, and they need pus$ies to guide them in the right direction.")
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Oldpreach Posted: May 22 2005, 08:31 PM
It is nice to see that Gilchrist can be reached still ! I sure was hoping he would be aware of the ememies plans.
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Its mainly due to the USA that you are not saying "Thank you Hitler, or Stalin" while counting your food ration.
"If you are not thankful to the USA, and proud to wave its flag, you are no friend of mine."
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Al Qaeda Posted: May 22 2005, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (Last Great Hope @ May 21 2005, 11:00 AM)
Anyone wanna meet up to support Gilchrist and chase off the Mechista traitors?
I'M IN!!!
Ok, this is just the end... THESE people are the fascists, not us! This is an outrage. I was planning to go and show some respect for Gilchrist.
Is this going to turn into another ugly confrontation with MEXICAN RACISTS??? The police Department needs to be notified. These people are nothing but a bunch of gang-bangers dressed up in "politically correct" language.
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- Allan Qaeda
"Properly Warned Ye Be Says I"
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Al Qaeda Posted: May 22 2005, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (1inchgroup @ May 21 2005, 05:44 PM)
Odd that the same guy would be a Green Party member, yet still show up on the Marxist Mailing list / bulletin boards...
Actually it is not that odd, not at all! I was a card carrying member of KPFK and I am still registered with the Green party - the Greens are far left and they agree with alot of Marxist philosophy, on for example, evil multinational corporations. etc.
What is unfortunate is that when you point out the inconsistency of being pro-open border and against the exploitation of cheap labor, they don't have an answer! I tried this approach at the Baldwin Park Rally when I engaged the 3 from Mecha. I told them that having an open border only allows the continued exploitation of labor by multinational corporations and undermines the wage scale for Americans AS WELL as illegal aliens who come here.... they did not know how to respond to this argument.
I will have to tear up my Green Party registration card right in front of his face!
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- Allan Qaeda
"Properly Warned Ye Be Says I"
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davidik80 Posted: May 22 2005, 09:36 PM
Questions of concern:
1. Where are we meeting? (address, etc...)
2. What about parking?
3. How many people are we expecting?
p.s. I will be forever devastated if those radical-extremist-commie-bastards outnumber the patriots again!
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I'mwithya Posted: May 22 2005, 09:44 PM
QUOTE (davidik80 @ May 22 2005, 09:36 PM)
Questions of concern:
1. Where are we meeting? (address, etc...)
2. What about parking?
3. How many people are we expecting?
p.s. I will be forever devastated if those radical-extremist-commie-bastards outnumber the patriots again!
GO HERE----->
http://ccir.net/ for accurate information.
As for the anti-American enemy don't be too concerned, I hear there will be a wonderful Police presence!
I believe we Americans are allowed to peacefully assemble.
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davidik80 Posted: May 22 2005, 09:51 PM
Couple of Pot-head Commies have never scared me before
On the contrary, enemies motivate me, pump me up with adrenaline & I'm ready to go
If you think that SOS wants to string up Mexicans in the trees, you are wrong. Don't you understand that this is not a racist issue? YOU are the ones making it that way. Don't you understand that someone can be against illegal immigration and NOT hate Mexicans? NOT be for the war in Iraq? NOT have a shrine to Hitler in their house? NOT be a caucasian? WTF is your problem? There are some f*cked up people in this world, for sure. SOS doesn't tolerate White Power types and neither did the Minutemen. In fact the one guy who made contact with an illegal and gave him cereal, a sandwich and $20 was dismissed because he violated the rule against making contact with the border crossers. No one got hurt, no one fired a shot, the ACLU got bored and went home. These are concerned citizens from all over the country and representing many races, not racists playing target practice on Messicans.
Idiots.
....sure, people coming up to mow your lawn is very much like people coming to kill all your jews....
...one idiot claims the group isn't racist...and a racist idiot chimes in in his defense...
....yer both a coupla fuckin 'idiots.
Just got a better number to stop Gilchrist in his tracks.
Call the Women's Civic Club of Garden Grove at 714-539-7364.
My source tells me that they're getting *lots* of calls opposing Gilchrist's effort to organize vigilantes in SoCal--even the GG police have called the Women's Club with concerns. Keep those phone calls coming!
This is interesting...your take on what constitutes "racist images".
A bullet leaving a gun, held by a person of indeterminate race is a "racist image"? How is that in any way directed at any race, BY any race? In order to be "racist" there has to be some degree of "race" involved. Do flying bullets have a "race"? Is shooting strictly a function of one race toward another?
A copy of a freeway sign warning of pedestrians on the road is a "racist image"? Does this mean that CALTRANS is a racist organization and if so, of what race are they and what race is be denigrated by the warning sign, as are seen all along Interstate 8 and elsewhere?
Does this mean that the U.S. Goverment condones of, and participates in "racism" since they allow these signs on interstate highways? Wouldn't Title 18 USC 241 prevent these signs if they were in some way "racist"???
A copy of a mexican flag with a circle and slash is a "racist image"? Really? and what "race" are "mexicans", and what is the race of the poster of same? I will give you a clue: he's an American-born hispanic whose parents immigrated to the US legally, if I have read him properly. Its awful hard to find "racism" where there is no racial difference, even if "mexican' was a "race" per se.
Lastly An "undocumented border patrol agent" is somehow racist"? " Border patrolmen are all ALL races and are heavily hispanic. The illegal aliens are of all races and heavily hispanic. Please explain how this could be racist.
Lets assume since i am a conservative that i can't possibly be as smart as you, since we all know that the left is the only "holder of the truth". Even though I am a paralegal with a focus on civil rights, peace officer certified and college educated I am sure you know more than me and that is why I am not seeing the "racism" you're seeing. please calify and give me the benefit of your wisdom by answering teh above questions. Thank you for your assistance.....
j.a.t.o.
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When oneeyedglans chimes in, you know you've hit a homer.
Who has attacked who here so far? An elderly woman was hospitalized after the BP rally as far as I know by a bottle thrown by some cowardly bandana clad thug.
She was white, does that make it a hate crime on top of elderly abuse?
What excuse would you be able to make for physically attacking someone over what they say? What did the people around this individual do? Grab him and hold him for the police to show that they don't support that type of behavior? Nah.. of course not. They cheered.
Cowards, liars, and scum.
There were hispanic people present at BP. I wasn't there, but I've seen the pictures. And there are Hispanic and African American's on the SOS forums.
To continue arguing that it is somehow about race makes you look so stupid that it's not even funny.
There are Hispanic members of the MMP in fact, and of course many in the actual federal border patrol. Are these people all racists too? Or do you prefer the racist term "coconut" when refering to these people?
The hypocrisy in your camp is astounding, and frankly really quite disgusting. You behave like a bunch of rabid cows. Screaming and jeering. Accusing everyone of being racists or fascists or whatever the istism of the day might be.
Grow up and actually look at the issue. No one is entitled to a free ride by circumventing the laws that we all agreed on. If you think otherwise, you're an idiot. You could be any color you want, you'd still be an idiot.
Janet, you are SOOOO right! Bless you for your vision and widsom. On so MANY points the anti-illegal people are on the same side as those protesting against us. It isn't about race and never has been. We are of all races. it is about a a president and congress who are failing to do their jobs while lying to the nation. It is about the damage done by NAFTA and FTAA/CAFTA, about the illegally hiring by American Employers and the exploitation of the illegals whom they hire. It is about the loss of social services for Americans of ALL colors because we're supporting the 3rd world within our borders. The very people who are screaming "RACIST" should embrace this movement as their people, the working class blue collar folks, are the very people who are losing their jobs, schools, and social services to these invaders of all races.
This is madness to be at each other's throats when we all want the same thing (excluding the reconquistas, of course)
We want decent pay for decent work, national security, availibility of hospitals and good education for our families, safety in our own homes and on the road & politicians who represent US.
Janet, you are SOOOO right! Bless you for your vision and widsom. On so MANY points the anti-illegal people are on the same side as those protesting against us. It isn't about race and never has been. We are of all races. it is about a a president and congress who are failing to do their jobs while lying to the nation. It is about the damage done by NAFTA and FTAA/CAFTA, about the illegally hiring by American Employers and the exploitation of the illegals whom they hire. It is about the loss of social services for Americans of ALL colors because we're supporting the 3rd world within our borders. The very people who are screaming "RACIST" should embrace this movement as their people, the working class blue collar folks, are the very people who are losing their jobs, schools, and social services to these invaders of all races.
This is madness to be at each other's throats when we all want the same thing (excluding the reconquistas, of course)
We want decent pay for decent work, national security, availibility of hospitals and good education for our families, safety in our own homes and on the road & politicians who represent US.
Mr. Duane Roberts, if that's really your name; you are truly a rocket scientist. You must be, you have no clue what's going on down on our borders. Or maybe you're not a rocket scientist and you just have some ulterior motives for not wanting our borders secured. Maybe you have some illegal alien girlfriend that rubs you right. Maybe some illegal mows your lawn for slave labor wages. These are a couple of example thoughts morons like you have churning in their pee brains. Maybe it's even simpler than that, maybe you're illegal or you're family was illegal. Any way you slice it, you're a moron!
I am a Minuteman and you are full of bull like so many other. I participated in the Minuteman Project because it is illegal to come into the United States in other than a legal immigration or visitor process. WHY YOU DON'T GET THAT IS A MYSTERY TO ME...OR IS IT. I think I've come to understand your thinking; YOUR NOT THINKING, you're self serving and can't look beyond your own nose. I'll try and help you think; if nothing else I know you can read. This is not a racist issue, since we are dealing with mostly Mexican illegals; yes some racist groups have put links ON THEIR OWN WEBSITE to the Minuteman Project website. If they put a link on their racist website, to your website, are you a racist NOOOOOO!!!
Picture this and look at the stats. At the rate of illegal immigration we have now, we will have over 500million people in our country within 10 years, or are you going to stop illegal immigration once millions of Africans, Chinese, and Russians decide they'll just sneak across the border? Your thinking is so idiotic I can't believe I'm even wasting my time writing to you. What do you think will happen to the United States once we have 500 million people here? Lots of things will happen to our environment, culture, lifestyle...and so on.
We will no longer be a viable source of good for the rest of the world. Let’s face it, the United States is one of the best countries in the world and it is a land of opportunity. It will no longer be a land of opportunity if we don't control its growth. Don't fall for the cheap lettuce routine; their all here to work the jobs Americans don't want to. Open your eyes and look around, they are working in many other jobs, desirable jobs. They now even want to subsidize or even pay for their schooling, illegals that is. Many of us can't even put our own kids through school and now we have to put them through school and absorb all there medical costs because the government, hospitals, banks, etc, don't have any way to track them and make them pay, SO WE PAY. We have driver’s licenses and social security numbers and we're on just about every database you can imagine.
Something is really wrong when life as an illegal alien starts looking better than being a legal American for many of our poor Americans. If your poor and need medical help, I suggest to walk into the hospital and tell them you don't speak English and you’re not from here. They have to take care of you, right? Anyways, this huge inflects of illegals will never be good for us. Our government and their bed pals, corporate America, have a divine plan. It's called poverty for most of us and wealth beyond your imagination for the politicians and the companies taking over every mom and pop business across the country and the world. If you don't wake up the $5 minimum wage will be the standard for most Americans for many, many years to come. NAFTA is designed to spread wealth, supposedly, throughout the NAFTA member’s countries. It will do that to some extent, but the truth is it's designed to drive down the wages in this country, to make the greedy even richer. Beyond that, how in the hell can we compete with countries which have little to no environmental or safety standards. We can't compete with that, we must insist they have the same standards or our jobs will continue to exit this country or use import taxes on there products, this might even stimulate manufacturing in this country again.
Beyond the problem of millions of illegals flooding into this country, terrorists and the threat of nuclear attack are more evident now than ever. There are more and more countries around the world that have nuclear weapons or they can easily acquire them.
This reason alone was enough for be to realize the importants of border control. I’ve never been an activist of any kind until now. Yes I am a Minuteman, it’s the only project currently out there that is doing a thing about the problem. Our government has thrown the border towns and there people to the wolves. Sure they pretend to be concern and they go through the motions but remember, corporate America is now running the show. Nearly every politician out there is in the back pocket of multiple special interests. WAKE UP AND TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.
I know your going to pick a few of my comments and try and twist the meaning, go ahead. Hopefully other readers are not as twisted.
"Picture this and look at the stats. At the rate of illegal immigration we have now, we will have over 500million people in our country within 10 years"
If I kept giggling like I did after reading this, I will laugh all the way to my grave.
If Manfiest Destiny kept expanding westward as it did during the 1800s, Euro-Americans would be driving Conestoga wagons into the Pacific Ocean... and if Darwin is correct, evolving into dolphins.
You talk about being killed, locked up or deported.
There definately is alot of talk of civil war, and if there is, Americans will win.
The best thing, you can do to help yourself, and any of your friends, that are in my country illegally, is to leave.
There is at most, 23,000,000 illegal Mexican immigrants.
There are atleast 200,000,000 Americans that want you gone.
We will win, in the end, but before we win, thousands upon thousands of innocent people will die, all because of you.
Had all of you illegal immigrants, respected American citizens from the beginning, and come here legally, none of this would be happening.
This is all about respect, you illegal immigrants, respecting our laws. You have shown us nothing, but contempt.
There could very well be bloodshed, in the future, and there is no way, Mexico or illegal immigrants are going to win. LA RAZA AND MALDEF, are totally stupid, to even begin to believe, they can survive a civil war.
If there is a civil war, you will not be facing, senior citizens, you are going to be facing hardcore violent people, who will stop at nothing to see you dead.
There will be nothing to stop it, once it is set in motion.
The 1986 amnesty that was given to you people, has not been forgotten.
War is war, and it will be more than just water bottles, getting thrown.
Have you seen any of the video from the Iraq war, that is exactly what you will see here.
If this Civil War breaks out, La Raza, MALDEF, AND OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS that have let this happen, will be the first that will be taken care of. This is not a threat, and I am not the one who will do it. We have waited for our government to take care of this, but they continue to fail the American people.
No one wants violence, no one wants bloodshed, all we want, is all illegal Mexican immigrants and illegal white immigrants, out of our country.
We want the respect, you want, but first you have to leave, and apology.
Just leave, and everything will be okay.
If not, innocent blood will be shed, but in the end, America will win, and justice for Americans will be served.
Wow you really showed me......showed me nothing but your stupidity. That's the only comeback you have? I guess everything else I said made sense. I'm thinking I won our debate.
Get off the wacky tobacky and you might be able to create a thought.
We will have to revolt soon. Liberals are too stupid to ever get what's going on. They live in their pie in the sky utopian pea brain thinking universe, not in the real world. They want to kill babies but they don't want the death penalty for murderous criminals. They haven't a clue how we gained and maintained our freedom and they don't want us to have guns. They don't want us to protect our interest in the middle but they won't let us drill in Alaska. They complain about us using up all the world’s resources but they don't want to drill in Alaska, they're happy using up other countries resources. They say they support our troops but they use every waking moment to stifle the efforts of those troops through their back and forth nonsensical politics; with no real plan or commitment to anything but power. They follow their idiotic actors and actresses in Hollywood; what ever the losers in Hollywood say must be right. These same stupid people are the ones that vote yes on every school tax initiative that is placed in front of their little pea brains; the government on all levels has been using our schools as a way to rob us for a 100 year, yet they still can't get it right, but the liberals don't want anything but public schooling.
YOHHHH...pull ya heads out ya ass!!!
Just trying to communicate it in a way you're dope smoking, gangster music lovin, I’m a victim, self gratifying, pea brain will understand