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Is israel using the americans to start a civil war in iraq?

by brian Saturday, May. 14, 2005 at 9:19 PM

from Xymphora

Is israel using the americans to start a civil war in iraq?

by you

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From an article (or here) by James Janega from Knight Ridder (which remains the only honest newspaper chain in the United States; my emphasis in bold):

"The Marines who swept into the Euphrates River town of Ubaydi confronted an enemy they had not expected to find - and one that attacked in surprising ways.

As they pushed from house to house in early fighting, trying to flush out the insurgents who had attacked their column with mortar fire, they ran into sandbagged emplacements behind garden walls. They found a house where insurgents were crouching in the basement, firing upwards through slits hacked at ankle height in the ground-floor walls, aiming at spots that the Marines' body armor did not cover.

The shock was that the enemy was not supposed to be in this town at all. Instead, American intelligence indicated that the insurgency had massed on the other side of the river. Marine commanders expressed surprise Monday not only at the insurgents' presence but also the extent of their preparations, as if they had expected the Marines to come."



How do the insurgents always know when the Americans will show up? How did they know just what hotel room to fire at when Wolfowitz was in Baghdad? How do they know exactly when and where to deploy their improvised explosive devices so they are in place just before the Americans drive by?



Larry Franklin talked to the AIPAC dudes almost two years ago. What's the one thing he could have told them two years ago which would be still grievously affecting the ability of the American army to deal with the insurgency in Iraq? The Israelis are able to assist the insurgents because they know the details of the Saddam-era and post-Saddam-era American counterintelligence operations in Iraq. As the spies for the insurgency are able to avoid the American counterintelligence assets in Iraq (and may have even 'turned' some of them), the Americans have no way to root out those who are gathering information on American plans. The agents of the insurgency are able to consistently spy on the American occupying army, and know what the Americans are going to do before most of the Americans know. This explains why the insurgents are clearly winning.



Why would supposed American ally Israel want to help the insurgency, or at least part of it? Based on the ideas of Oded Yinon, the plan is to break Iraq up into small, unthreatening mini-states. The Israelis are trying to start an Iraqi civil war. To this end, the Israelis are hoping to pin the Americans in Iraq for as long as possible in a vain attempt to prevent this war. The Americans will only pull out when civil war is inevitable, which will be another huge embarrassment for the Pentagon. On top of that, the slow American defeat in Iraq, based on the perfidity of the Israelis in supporting the insurgency and undermining American counterintelligence in Iraq, is gradually destroying the American military (although no one in the Bush Administration will admit it). This effort means the Israelis are effectively currently engaged in war operations against the United States. This undeclared war by the greatest ingrate in the world, Israel - hundreds of billions of dollars in aid from American taxpayers to Israel, and this is the thanks they get! - has made the paleocons furious, and explains why the neocons have been unable to stop the AIPAC investigation.

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/05/behind-iraqi-civil-war.html

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civil war

by Alphonse Saturday, May. 14, 2005 at 11:26 PM

what civil war are you talking about?

The civil war between terrorists and iraqis, or the one twixt sunnis and kurds or tween shiites and marshies?

The civil war--aka terrorist mindfucked insurrection-- will be avoided with democracy, in the long run.

The jews perhaps are pulling a few minor strings but to think that theyt are instrumental in the war is absurd at best.

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alphonse the zionist

by brian Saturday, May. 14, 2005 at 11:41 PM

the one between sunnis, shias, kurds and americans...all safely orchestrated by people in washington and tel aviv.

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umm, so sorry

by Alphonse Sunday, May. 15, 2005 at 12:17 AM

I have a confession to make here, brian, and you might decide to reel in your net till i'm done, the one you use to catch unfamiliar fish, such as me, k?.

not complaining about the netting, per se, just that i aint nettable, in the context you demand.

ever wonder brian? why you think as a hunter in a racial sense?

might wanna think along them lines a little.

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