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by Robert Rabbin, et al.
Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2004 at 2:33 AM
rob@robrabbin.com
Spiritual leaders and yoga/meditation teachers endorse Kerry/Edwards and urge voter registration and electoral participation.
An Open Letter of Conscience and Choice
To All Spiritual, Metaphysical, Yoga, and Meditation Communities
by Robert Rabbin, Stephen Mitchell, Rabbi Michael Lerner, John Friend, Dan Millman, Riane Eisler, Tom Hayden, et al.
There are times in life when we must act. And when those moments come, we must act with our truest heart, our clearest mind, and our noblest intentions.
November 2 is such a time. On that day, we will take in hand one of the tools for social transformation. We will exercise our right to vote and our responsibility to voice our values and conscience. We will choose a new president and vice president. We, the signers of this letter, after full consideration, careful study, and deep reflection, endorse and recommend John Kerry and John Edwards for these offices. We urge all of you to vote for them. This is a matter of great importance and urgency.
The Kerry/Edwards ticket is not perfect, and we have many serious disagreements with them, especially in the area of militarism and defense spending. But Howard Dean rightfully cautions us to not let perfection become the enemy of the good. In this election, we have two clear choices. By any standard or measure—policy, ideology, humanity, truthfulness—Kerry is better by far than George W. Bush, and Edwards is better by far than Dick Cheney. We believe their cabinet selections and their many other appointments, including to the Supreme Court, will be better by far than those of George W. Bush. We urge you to register and vote for John Kerry and John Edwards.
There are many reasons to not vote: cynicism, apathy, distrust of candidates, or the conviction that spirit transcends politics and we dare not risk our spiritual brightness by descending into the murky depths of political darkness and intrigue. But these are not legitimate reasons. It is an inappropriate spiritual response to our times to be socially aloof and politically uninvolved. The Dalai Lama encourages us, "Sometimes we look down on politics, criticizing it as dirty. However, if you look at it properly, politics in itself is not wrong. With good motivation—sincerity and honesty—politics becomes an instrument in the service of society."
The self-evident fact of inter-dependence will not allow us to stand on the sidelines of life, to ignore what is happening in our own backyards. We live in society, and society lives in us. This awareness requires responsibility. This awareness requires participation. This awareness requires expression.
We all know from our studies, practice, and experience that the inner and the outer are more than mirror images of each other: they are each other. There is no separation, no difference, no distance between them. This is why the philosopher J. Krishnamurti said, “The crisis is not out there in the world; it is in our own consciousness.” A flower is not separate from its fragrance.
We have been refining our inner consciousness. We have been purifying our inner consciousness. We have been liberating our inner consciousness from the stranglehold of limiting and hurtful beliefs and images and concepts. For years, we have taken this “hero’s journey” to inner truth, freedom, and wisdom in order to become whole and free. But we have not taken this journey for ourselves alone; we have also taken this journey for others and for our world.
It is not just for ourselves that we love wisdom and practice compassion, not just for ourselves that we pursue truth instead of falsehood, not just for ourselves that we ask those fearsome questions that lead to knowledge of the soul. No, it is not just for ourselves that we do this. We do it equally for others. Our very quest for wholeness of being is at its core a service to others. The Kabbalah reminds us, "First we receive the light, then we impart the light. Thus we repair the world." And now it is time to begin healing this world, our world, in the same way we have sought to heal ourselves from the diseases of hatred, violence, and greed; in the same way we have sought to heal our own hearts of anger born of fear, and fear born of separation.
Voting for John Kerry and John Edwards is a positive step towards this social healing. To be sure, it is just one step in a long journey, but one we should all take on November 2.
Signed (as private citizens, not as representatives of any organization):
Robert Rabbin, writer, speaker, creator of TruthForPresident.org
Stephen Mitchell, writer
Rabbi Michael Lerner, author, editor of Tikkun Magazin
John Friend, founder of Anusara Yoga
Dan Millman, author, teacher
Riane Eisler, author of The Chalice & The Blade and The Power of Partnership
Tom Hayden, author, activist, former California legislator
Sharon Steffensen, yoga teacher, editor of YOGAChicago
Saniel Bonder, author, founder of Waking Down in Mutuality work
Judith Whitson, publisher, writer, lecturer, teacher
William W. Whitson, writer, speaker, retired Army officer
Jonathan Granoff, Esq. (Ahamed Muhaiyaddeen), author, screenwriter, speaker, activist
Larry Robinson, Vice-mayor, Sebastopol, CA
Tami Coyne, author, spiritual teacher
Pamela Miles, founder of Institute for the Advancement of Complementary Therapies
Gilles Marin, author, founder of Chi Nei Tsang Institute
Raphael Cushnir, author, spiritual teacher
Stephen Dinan, author of Radical Spirit, progressive activist
Sandra Sedgbeer, publisher of PlanetLightworker & Children of the New Earth
Connie Shaw, publisher of Sentient Publications
Laurie Schryver, psychic, teacher, progressive activist
Robert Skutch, author
Lee Skutch, psychologist
Kanu Kogod, Ph.D, anthropologist, author, founder of Bridges in Organizations
David Lurey, yoga teacher
Debbie Milam, author, Reiki master, president of Unlimited Inspiration
Rev. Laura R. Davis, co-founder of Wisdom & Wellness Expo, Reiki master
Rev. C.J. Davis, spiritual teacher, Reiki master,
Elizabeth Ann Bloom, president of Here There & Beyond, Inc.
Mary Alice O'Connor, interfaith minister
Amy Kahn, yoga teacher
Gina Rabbin, psychic, life and business coach
Chetan Parkyn, author, spiritual teacher
Carolina Eastwood, author, spiritual counselor
Sister Mary Jude Jun, OSU is an Ursuline Sister
© 2004/Robert Rabbin/All rights reserved
Robert Rabbin, the creator of this "Letter," is a writer, speaker, and spiritual activist. He is the author of numerous books and articles, and the creator of TruthForPresident.org, an online spiritual activism resource. Visit: http://www.robrabbin.com.
www.truthforpresident.org
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by Sheepdog
Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2004 at 1:15 PM
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It's more than just that “The Kerry/Edwards ticket is not perfect” because Fascism with a smother face is still the death knoll of liberty and justice and it's still Fascism. The merger of corporate and state policies whether or not one wears a brown shirt with swastika or an American flag pin, is Fascism.
One Big Property Party, Part One
http://radio4houston.org/takingaim/takingaim040629.m3u
One Big Property Party, Part Two
http://radio4houston.org/takingaim/takingaim040706.m3u
opens with Real Player.
We are being played like a tin drum as we get herded like farm animals by fear of OUR government. It's time to make it OURS again.
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by MadMaxim
Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2004 at 3:46 PM
defeat the Brits by
making
salt?
Would Ghandi's tactics have worked against Nazi
Germany?
Why not?
Because fascism declares that "God is
dead".
When Right and Wrong become subjective - defined
solely by the will of a
tyrannical majority - then, so long as the collective agrees,
mass murder becomes acceptable.
CS Lewis referred to this as "The
poison of subjectivism"
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by bert russell
Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2004 at 5:23 PM
but lewis's arguments are far from convincing. he often makes use of such artful apologetic dodges as the false dichotomy (e.g., Jesus as either son of god or madman, with no intermediate possibilities, such as his just having been plain wrong about himself).
there are many books available on ethics without the need of a deity. i don't like pain, hunger, getting screwed over , etc., so i try not to inflict these things on others. similarly, i appreciate a helping hand when i'm down, so i do what i can for others. it's rational, with no supernatural baggage.
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by MadMaxim
Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2004 at 7:09 PM
"it's rational, with no
supernatural baggage".
Social
Darwinism is quite rational. Very useful
for a
rationalizing the implementation of the "final
solution" by expressing a "will to power".
"i don't like pain, hunger, getting
screwed over , etc., so i try not to inflict these things on
others"
But, given that altruism is disposed of by
Dawkins "selfish gene", how does the collective react to
non-conforming individuals - especially when confronted with a scarcity of
reproductive resources?
The selfish
gene will always rationalize selfish behavior.
The selfish gene is
the result of nature.
Altruism thus
transcends nature.
Altruism is
Supernatural.
"For
God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,..." John
3:16
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by bert russell
Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2004 at 12:29 AM
actually, social darwinism is neither rational nor scientifically tenable, in that it does not take into account the built-in inequities for members of lower socioeconomic strata as compared with the ruling class in our present economic system.
as for those who are deviant or disobey agreed upon rules of society, they ought to be rehabilitated if possible, and if not, isolated from society. what's the big deal, it's what we do now, except with an acknowledgement that the standards for accepted behavior (no murder, theft, rape, etc.) come out of a consensus of more or less ordinary folks instead of being imposed by fiat by moses, hammurabi, justinian, mohammed, whoever. once people can accept that, it doesn't matter so much whether or not there's a god, because god is no longer necessary to provide moral guidance.
ps -- no need to quote the new testament...i've read it.
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by MadMaxim
Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2004 at 12:46 AM
...as long as there is a "consensus of more or less ordinary folks" that says so.
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by bert russell
Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2004 at 12:59 AM
i don't know anyone personally, nor have i ever, who feels that genocide is an ok thing. racists and holocaust deniers, perhaps, but they are not ordinary people, are they!
your comment ignores my earlier statement that i (and many non-religious people) base morals, at least in part, upon what we like and do not like done to us. i wouldn't want my entire ethnic group exterminated, again, at least in part, because it includes me!
i'll let you have this one, madmaxim, because you have a flair for hyperbole, and i grow tired of this exchange. please excuse that bit of ad hominem, and have a great day.
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by MadMaxim
Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2004 at 1:57 AM
it was dangerous not to be - "ordinary".
The chains of the collective, fascist, state.
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Ex 3:14
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou
say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58
58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am! "
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by KPC
Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2004 at 3:21 PM
KPC
KPC 11:20
69 "And I say unto you, Minnie is a friggin idiot"
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by Snoopdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 10:12 AM
Yeeeeeeeea right. Like Imma use that bloated spyware on mah machine.
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by Sheepdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 12:16 PM
If you're so frightened switch to Linux. It's a robust system of firewalls. What's the matter, don't want anybody to see all the porn on your 'hard' drive?
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by snoopdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 1:27 PM
You obviously don't take security culture seriously. Just some advice, but if you don't watch your own back, ain't nobody gonna do it for you.
Here, read up:
http://www.radio4all.org/aia/sec_basics.html
reaplayer is spyware. Any activist that uses it is a fool. The Feds probably know everything about you.
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by Sheepdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 1:59 PM
what an idiot.
of course they do. To assume they don't is stupid. Tell you what, you just keep hiding under your bed where you're 'safe' untill they come for you.
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by snoopdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 4:29 PM
Speak fo yoself, nigga. The feds ain'got shit on me. I dont use bloatware encrypted with sniffers. Just a matta a time for they lock you up. Ask Sherman Austin, it happened to him.
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by Sheepdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 5:55 PM
You aint really black, you're just another bozo. And I'm not hosting any stupid white boy bomb info. There aint no laws agin' what I'm doing.
Yet.
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by snoopdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 6:51 PM
Damn, ain't you seen nunna my videos?
Sumbudy cap dat cracka's white ass.
Shoot. He dont know a damm thang.
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by Sheepdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 7:00 PM
Like The People Who Do That said, you're as black as Eminem.
Dickweed.
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by Sheepdog
Thursday, Aug. 26, 2004 at 10:48 PM
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by Leapfrog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 1:38 PM
"We are being played like a tin drum as we get herded like farm animals by fear of OUR government. It's time to make it OURS again."
Just curious, but how do you propose we do that? Being that we're the feeble, helpless, herded, bewildered, timid, deer-in-the-headlights eyed masses?
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by Sheepdog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 2:55 PM
First and foremost is the necessity to bury all the fractionalizing by outcasting the tactic of division, when it occurs; actively denouncing it and working seriously together despite the forces brought to bare that amplify emotional inconsequential differences.
Race for instance.
We all are under this yoke and pointing out this fact and the consequences thereof like a life spent fearing the whims of government piloted by creatures of exploitation is essential to begin with.
Then comes mobilization and direct action or inaction as in a general strike or boycott, on selected sectors of the machine. Mostly, it must be a cultural revolution which views the possession of wealth/power as the result of greed and criminal behavior as destructive irresponsibility. Like a civilized person views rape or theft in which case it resembles.
We must shun persons who cherish wealth for its own sake and instead cultivate an awareness of true worth. The other road leads to tyranny... againts an inter-isolated mass of occupied people who are too involved in squabbling about small scraps left over from the pillage.
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by leapfrog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 3:13 PM
Your method is:
1. Put aside petty difference and unite for the common good.
2. Mobolize and boycott the current government.
3. Cultivate a cultural revolution where wealth is disparaged.
Anything else? How long will this plan take to implement, and what will be the results?
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by leapfrog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 3:20 PM
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by Sheepdog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 3:23 PM
Who knows what a truly cohesive culture would be like, world wide with flourishing cultural evolution uninhibited by the sociopaths hooked on power endorphans or twisted environmental references killing their natural bond with the rest of humanity... but it could be beautiful.
Time lines are always uncertain dependent upon ambient factors such as new technologies , or mistakes made by the rulers in being generally clueless about the true nature of humanity.
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by Sheepdog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 3:40 PM
The Amish are good people. My grandfather was a surgeon and he told me they ALWAYS paid for his services, in cash, on time. Even if the entire community had to raise the money.
Nuff said.
We don't have to limit technology to have a comfortable creative life as caretakers of this world upon which we belong.
Just the waste and despoiling.
We can do better than this.
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by leapfrog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 5:37 PM
but is it really possible?
I'd like to elieve there's more than this too. But we're so tied up by the current system, which all can be rationalized to be tied to human nature and the essence of man. So much apathy out there. Won't the Sun supernova and end all life on this planet long before these meat-puppets jaunting about become self-aware and decide to polish up this turd we're cruising about the universe upon?
Don't mean to sound bleak, but I don't see it in the cards for this race.
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by Sheepdog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 5:50 PM
talk about jumping into the abiss.
Did you ever see the poster that had a mouse giving the finger to an eagel bearing down on it?
:>)
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by Spelling Police
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 5:53 PM
-talk about jumping into the abiss [ abyss]
Did you ever see the poster that had a mouse giving the finger to an eagel bearing down on it?
:>)
Author: Sheepdog-
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by leapfrog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 6:23 PM
We've only got a few hundred years left. Maybe 1000 at the most. Better do something quick.
http://www.exploratorium.edu/climate/primer/index.html
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by Don Key
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 8:39 PM
"Time lines are always uncertain dependent upon ambient factors such as new technologies , or mistakes made by the rulers in being generally clueless about the true nature of humanity"
new technologies from a shivering mass of equal proles working the fields?..and i guess most make mistakes about the true nature of humanity.
it sure sounded good on 1st pass.
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by Sheepdog
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 10:01 PM
Well, yes we do make mistakes. But my mistakes won't kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions or billions of peace loving innocents.
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by Don Key
Friday, Aug. 27, 2004 at 11:07 PM
so your solution is to abolish positions of power?
Look, i would love to do that, and abolish govts, but we're stuck with them(necessary crap). It's the necessary part we can't get around.
you don't really think anarchy would work, do you?
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 12:33 AM
Only in a society that has found equilibrium with its needs and the burden it imposes on sustainable resources with equitable distribution of same that anarchy will flourish. Its time is not yet in this time of chaos. Let's begin with a real democracy. The worship of wealth is and always has been a vortex into which souls have been drawn. Let us be aware of this and the attendant loss of fellowship this causes.
There are just too many forces in conflict driving the acquisition of material goods at the expense of survival to worry about putting the fine touches on a working utopia..
I'm talking about sanity in correcting the sickness that has eaten the flesh and blood from the garden and its people.
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by more rational
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 7:23 AM
Anarchy can't wait for the soup to simmer down. Anarchy now is the spoon to stir it all up.
Anarchy is the embrace of chaos, acceptance of difference, and the never ending negotiations based on mutual respect. It's the destruction of the ego to create society, and the energizing of the self from participation in society.
I'm more rational, but I like the mystical aspects of morality. I like the idea of instant karma, and eternal retribution, and not only because I want to visualize Dick Cheney being speared by demons after he's decapitated in a freak necktie accident. I just like the idea that, even in the unknowable, there's somthing that's right, and something that's wrong.... it's just not very clear.
In fact, I like the idea of something wrong, because I want to test the idea. We're always finding out that what's wrong is now okay, and what was once just fine, is now not good at all. These changes aren't merely the assertions of subjectivity, but changes that help clarify objectivity.
Subjective decisions about what to observe will result in objective knowledge about reality. This, in turn, alters subjectivity. Do this over and over, faster and faster, and like a tiger chasing it's tail, everything blurs.
And then, you end up with a plate of pancakes and butter.
Which brings us to Little Black Sambo, and racism in a subjective society, and blackness in India, and Gandhi, and salt, and the Britons being kicked out. I always like anything that leads me back to the Britons being kicked out of a colony.
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by Phil O. Sepher
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 9:21 AM
>>The worship of wealth is and always has been a vortex into which souls have been drawn. Let us be aware of this and the attendant loss of fellowship this causes. And brush your teeth after every meal. Tooth decay is a bitch.
Oh yeah, and never look directly at the sun.
Oh and, always have ample lighting when you're reading. Don't wanna go blind.
Oh and wait thirty minutes after eating before going for a swim, else you may get cramps and drowned.
Never fart in a crowded elevator. It's rude.
Money is the root of all evil. Oh wait, sheepdog already mentioned that.
Don't drink too much coffee. And never before bedtime.
There's a fine line between love and hate. There's an even finer line between genius and insanity. The later can be defined, though, with a simple review of sheepdogs prose.
Don't sit too close to the television.
Be sure to drink your ovaltine. Don't give your kid a bee bee gun for Christmas. He may shoot his eye out.
Masturbation leads to harry palms.
It's better to be thought a fool, then to type some blather up and post it on indymedia and remove all doubts.
There are just too many forces in conflict driving the acquisition of material goods at the expense of survival to worry about putting the fine touches on a working utopia..
I'm talking about sanity in correcting the sickness that has eaten the flesh and blood from the garden and its peo
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by Navin R. Johnson
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 9:28 AM
Know the difference between shit and shinola.
Lord loves a workin' man.
Don't trust whitey.
See a doctor and get rid of it.
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 11:59 AM
' It's better to be thought a fool, then to type some blather up and post it on indymedia and remove all doubts.'
You people could use your own advice. Hey, if you're going to read what this humble dog types, it really doesn't seem like my problem. Particularly in a question - response interchange. I guess some people can't see the obvious and are annoyed by this when these ideas are surfaced. They are not complex ideas.
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 12:45 PM
apparently this one set him off.
The worship of wealth is and always has been a vortex into which souls have been drawn. Let us be aware of this and the attendant loss of fellowship this causes.
The truth is that this picture, which is built from the direction and control of the interests of their owners of wealth being a virtue is not true.
But this doesn't stop the constant sea of propaganda to promote the opposite view point. These things don't just happen by accident. Wealth requires worship.
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by restated
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 1:15 PM
your axioms are simply cliches restated. This is what you spend your time doing. When someone asks you a question you don't know the answer too, just be honest and say so. To plagiarize other people's chliche axioms is rude, crude, and in bad form. Don't do it. For shame. Go hang your head.
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by restated
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 1:22 PM
You can't make any mistakes. Because you don't offer any solutions. Only banter and blather, mantras and
mattoes.
Shibboleths won't get the job done.
Money is the root of all evil. Oh, that's rich.
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by restated
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 1:36 PM
You have nothing. Nothing. Nothing at all. To say.
Do you?
The sea of propaganda promotes wealth?
Desire for wealth is promoted by the have-NOTS. Those who obsess over wealth the most, are those who desire it the most.
Try going a month without money.
Human nature is survival. Survival is greed. They are inextricably linked.
Want utopia? Find a way to feed, shelter, clothe everyone and give them all everything they ever want. Either that or change the human gene and breed out the survival instinct.
You blather is nothing. It's weak. Hollow. Empty.
May as well be:
Words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words .
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by Sheepdog.
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 1:58 PM
next time you can use the ignore feature if you get so worked up by my blather....
chuckle
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 2:04 PM
You want a special solution.
Okay, here it is.
Everybody has a special secret weapon of my design that used sub ether scaller weapondry in order to target any individual anywhere through the j axis. It will be cheap and easy to make according to my web published design. You made me do it.
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by R.E. Pete
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 2:19 PM
I just thought since you spend so much time barking about the problems that you might have some solutions.
Bark on, little bow-wow.
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 2:27 PM
geez...
I already have offered some. The long solution and the short messy one.
Trivializing them doesn't make them ineffective or maybe you just jumped in here to beat the rug. Feel free to leave...
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by R.E. Stated
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 3:12 PM
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by R.E. Stated
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 3:15 PM
No you haven't. What you offered was empty worthless rhetoric. No wonder the feeble masses aren't listening to you. You're not saying anything. You're relationship with them is like Jimmy Hendrix to a white man. They can listen to you all day and still not hear you.
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by R.E. Stated
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 3:21 PM
Okay. I'll bite. How do we do that?
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 5:59 PM
I'm sorry if your vision is limited to instructions on a episodic, clearly diagrammed, printed sheet.
I said it would be a cultural revolution. I offered some VERY SIMPLE paradymes that could be implemented given some IMAGINATION on anyone's personal level. All it would take to start to effect change would be for the idea to spread.
For instance in regards to direct action for ostentatious displays of wealth:
Point and laugh ...the image that wealth grants someone with wisdom, is a steady under current in image control and needs to be shredded.
One would target...
Idiots driving New Empty hummers with one passenger ( themself )
Idiots in or with V8 jet boats.
Idiots who are concerned about conformist consumerism for status
And for someone who generate meaningless BW you sure are engaged with me. Okay I've noticed you. When are you going to send me flowers?
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by floatser
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 6:21 PM
and to all those that detest wealth. If you are all truly serious about how much you detest wealth, I will give you my P.O. Box address and you can make the checks out to me if you're feeling the need to lighten your bank accounts. Lead by example. Get rid of all that extra fiat currency you have laying around. I promise to use my new found wealth only for good.
Let me know. K?
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 6:32 PM
What I have ain't exactly Wealth.
Tell you what hombre, I'll Take half of everything I possess and put in into a general fund that the Rockefeller, Melon, Morgan, Bush, Kerry etc. Families also contribute into with the same percentage ( it should be more ) and that means 50%. That means EVERYTHING. Trusts, Tax exempt institutions, offshore holdings and accounts etc. etc. etc.
The common fund will be driven by popular referendum.
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by more rational
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 7:40 PM
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Someone needs to fire Donald Trump's haircutter.
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by Jack Boot
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 8:19 PM
You set up the fund and go first, and I'm right behind you. Lead the way, chum.
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by Uncle Sam
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 8:25 PM
Already got dibs on that idea, sheepdog. Call it the Federal budget. We thank you for your contributions.
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 9:41 PM
" 'We' thank you for your contributions. "
I said everyone, not just the wage earners.
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by near maniacal, driving, scumbag capitalist
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 9:41 PM
COMMON Fund for Everyday people!!!!!!!!!!!
I knew it, of course---Commies--or socialist(more realistic) or even Liberals!! GREENS????!! or the nouveau pinkys?..is arnold in the house?
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 9:52 PM
but this is what happens when you threaten even with blather, the privileges of wealth and control. And the idea of fair resource distribution.
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 10:46 PM
justify this statement
[ To plagiarize other people's chliche [sp] axioms is rude, crude- ]
That's a serious charge without references to back it up. I can't even type without being accused of quoting without acknowledgment.
I Am Sheepdog.
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by cheeng
Saturday, Aug. 28, 2004 at 11:14 PM
"money is the root of all evil" or something thereabouts. It's cliche. Its shop worn. It's been done. Think up your own material.
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by Sheepdog
Sunday, Aug. 29, 2004 at 12:22 AM
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by cheeng
Sunday, Aug. 29, 2004 at 1:16 PM
Plagiarism can be the theft of intellectual property, not just the exact words.
Anyway, do you now consider yourself such serious writer that you take accusations of plagiarism so gravely? From what I've seen of your work, you don't have much to worry about.
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