"They're always there high in the skies...

Nagasaki nightmare, Nagasaki nightmare

Pretty as a picture in the generals' eyes

Nagasaki nightmare, Nagasaki nightmare

They've done it once, they'll do it again

They'll shower us all in their deadly rain"

- CRASS

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Nagasaki mayor asks Americans to bar nukes

The Japan Times - August 10th, 2004

www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20040810a2.htm

NAGASAKI (Kyodo) Nagasaki Mayor Itcho Ito called on U.S. citizens Monday to stand against their government's pursuit of enhanced nuclear capabilities and urged the Japanese government to take no action that will disturb Northeast Asian peace and security.

"People of America, the path leading to the long-term survival of the human race unequivocally requires the elimination of nuclear arms," Ito said during this year's Peace Declaration at a memorial service marking the 59th anniversary of the U.S. atomic bombing of Nagasaki during World War II. "As long as the world's leading superpower fails to change its posture of dependence on nuclear weapons," Ito said, "it is clear that the tide of nuclear proliferation cannot be stemmed.

"We call upon the citizens of the United States to look squarely at the reality of the tragedies . . . of the atomic bombings," he said, citing the 1996 opinion of the International Court of Justice, which said using or threatening to use nuclear weapons runs counter to international law.

The mayor criticized the U.S. government for maintaining about 10,000 nuclear weapons, repeating subcritical nuclear tests and attempting to develop so-called mini nuclear weapons.

An estimated 20,000 Japanese and foreign citizens joined the ceremony at Nagasaki Peace Park in memory of the victims of the Aug. 9, 1945, nuclear attack, which came three days after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima during the closing days of World War II.

Among the guests were Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi and Democratic Party of Japan leader Katsuya Okada. The one-hour ceremony began at 10:45 a.m., and a moment of silence was observed at 11:02 a.m., the time a B-29 dropped the bomb on the city.

Ito urged Koizumi's administration to stick with the war-renouncing Constitution and enact into law the government's three avowed principles of not producing, possessing or allowing nuclear weapons on its soil. As

Hiroshima Mayor Tadatoshi Akiba did Friday in his city's ceremony, Ito appeared to be issuing a warning to Koizumi and other lawmakers who have called for revising the Constitution.

Taking the podium after Ito, Koizumi reiterated Japan's pacifist position but fell short of promising his government would not seek to amend the Constitution. "Japan will make every effort to achieve the total elimination of nuclear weapons by more strongly urging governments of other countries to quickly ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty," Koizumi said, and then offered his condolences to A-bomb victims.

Ito said in his speech, "The combination of the threefold nonnuclear principle with nuclear disarmament on the Korean Peninsula will pave the road toward creation of a Northeast Asia nuclear-weapons-free zone. "Japan itself must also pursue an independent security stance that does not rely on nuclear arms," he added.

Multinational efforts are under way to defuse the tension over North Korea's nuclear ambitions. Pyongyang has called for security assurances from the U.S. and energy assistance in return for scrapping its nuclear arms program.

Meanwhile the Nagasaki and Hiroshima mayors, who lead Mayors for Peace, an organization of 611 mayors in 109 countries, have voiced concern, as well as hope, about the effectiveness of international control of nuclear weapons under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

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Let's remember Pearl Harbor As we go to meet the foe Let's remember Pearl Harbor As we did the Alamo.

We will always remember how they died for Liberty Let's remember Pearl Harbor And go on to victory.

Let's remember Pearl Harbor As we go to meet the foe Let's remember Pearl Harbor As we did the Alamo.

We will always remember How they died for Liberty Let's remember Pearl Harbor And go on to victory

...that the major crimes of history are always wrapped in righteous indignation by the perps?

A careful look into the circumstances that pushed that war into it's typical rampage of slaughter and theft reveals yet more examples of greed without conscience. It's not like these things happen by themselves. Ever.

Look what happened this week....

The "suspected" theft of an X-Box resulted in the beating to a pulp of 6 people.

...that the major crimes of history are always

wrapped in righteous indignation by the perps?

---You would've preferred the massive casualties of a

mainland invasion of Japan?

A careful look into the circumstances that pushed

that war into it's typical rampage of slaughter and

theft reveals yet more examples of greed without

conscience. It's not like these things happen by

themselves. Ever.

---You base a lot of your assertions on a secret

history privy only to God-knows-Who, that might as

well be written by ghosts.

---Were there any substance to your claims of why

things happen(ed) the way they did (and do) and

furthermore how similar events could be changed, why, a handful of enlightened "Yous" with high-powered rifles could continually "correct" the course of

history by eliminating the "power players" in

conflict with whatever goals you claim to want to

achieve.

---Marx thought it was all Economics, the religions

have their prophecies and you have your CIA spooks.

Somewhere in that admixture lies the unknowable,

absolute truth.

---Point to ponder: do you think America is the only nation with a CIA-type organization? If there's a nation more moral than the US, name it.

He was a very intelligent man who was formidable in what he did know and clever in the way he used that knowledge. He was a very loyal man who was in the end again betrayed by the government he served so faithfully. He was in Italy and Korea and nearly died at Choesn. He didn't know that the CIA had been sending in raids into N. Korea to start that little police action, he didn't know of the financing of Hitler through Standard Oil and he didn't know that Pearl Harbor was a deliberate sacrifice of some 2000 sailors in the pursuit of eastern markets.

He didn't know the Gulf of Tonkin was a lie.

Maybe he didn't want to know.

God doesn't give me any information. That what curiosity is about. What's your excuse?

He was a very intelligent man who was formidable in what he did know and clever in the way he used that knowledge. He was a very loyal man who was in the end again betrayed by the government he served so faithfully.

---I'm not sure what kind of guarantee he was looking for. The government is NEVER to be trusted. I salute his bravery and service, even if he didn't want to go. But even were there no 'betrayals' as you call them, going into combat is dangerous.

He was in Italy and Korea and nearly died at Choesn. He didn't know that the CIA had been sending in raids into N. Korea to start that little police action,

---So it's the CIA's fault that North Korea is communist? Red China had nothing to do with it?

he didn't know of the financing of Hitler through Standard Oil

---Was Standard Oil the United States Government?

and he didn't know that Pearl Harbor was a deliberate sacrifice of some 2000 sailors in the pursuit of eastern markets.

---On this last one, sorry, you're grasping at straws. FDR was a socialist piece of work but he wasn't treasonous. But hey, you'll believe what you will.

He didn't know the Gulf of Tonkin was a lie.

Maybe he didn't want to know.

---Glad I'm not a Democrat.

God doesn't give me any information. That what curiosity is about. What's your excuse?

---Excuse? For what? There are consequences for being a cynic, and it's possible, if not likely, you're missing a lot more than you purport to have discovered about history. That's all.

I hit you with the truth and you mess yourself... figuratively of course.

I hit you with the truth and you mess yourself... figuratively of course.



Your "truth" is the same as the lunatic's in the asylum who thinks he's Napoleon.

Write a Ludlum novel if you know so much about the Illuminati.

nice rebuttal. Ha ha ha.

Christ I wish I had a nickel for every time you boring unread twits start to rant about this person/location/soft cheese or what ever.

Day after day, battling these naysayers? They seem to be coming by the thousands, and all telling you the same thing: "Take your meds and lay off the sauce."

I'll admit you're a bit more coherrent these days. You seem to be able to formulate complete sentences. How many days sober now?

Sheep, you're a battle worn soldier around here. I see retirement in your future. They're coming in younger and smarter and you can't seem to pull your proverbial wool over their eyes.

You've been playing paddleball way too long, old man.

As opposed to bitter, well-read twits who rant...

Hmmmmmm

Hmmmmmm

What-Am I not entertaining you as well as I hoped?



this manic moment...

with your whips so close to mine

will last forever...

until the end of time.

:>)

You don't know old, my son. Ha ha ha .

That's called experience.

And speaking of Beer.

I've found a great Bock from Nambia. Urbock. Mellow and smooth yet with body.

I recommend it.

Fighting evil is thirsty work. But hey, did you ever read the P J ORorque story in National Lampoon about when he was getting sauced again with Wild Turkey ( whew) and threatening his boss with a 210 grain 30-06? Funny stuff.

Now which way did I annoy you the most? My multiple disorder project or the drone of repetitiousness? Inquiring minds want to know.

You don't annoy me in the slightest. I enjoy following your wackiness. Gives me something to pass the time here in my cell.

Didn't know you were a beer lover though; always took you for a hard liquor man. Never had Urbock myself, although when I was in Cameroun I took a fond liking to "33 Export".

But nothing much compares to the wonderful malt beverages I get when I'm in Belgium and Germany. You know, they don't put preservatives in them by edict. One can drink as much as one likes with little fear of hangover.

German purity laws. No other way- no rice.

Haven't touched any hard stuff for years. Never liked it.

As to the thread, nuclear weapons are, as yet the greatest obscenity man has ever committed. There is no other more immediate threat to human survival.

Can't really say I agree with you. Nukes are not good, but they got the job done and ended that war. I think the internal combustion engine probably has done more damage to the world.

Mankind is mankind's greatest obscenity.

Mankind if it weren't for the missing sense of empathy would be a great race. It would be paradise. I believe most humans have this sense but there are the handicapped.

Yep. If only we could weed out the undesirables.........

weeding them out is your solution.

I'm not a facsist. They need counseling and therapy.

Yeah. Concentration and re-education camps. Sounds like a plan.

Saves money on bullets.

Isn't it amusing how some people color the world view through their own very narrow ideals and perceptions which in your case is weeding out and concentration camps.

It wasn't my idea to brainwash the apathetic in order to fully realize my utopia.

Those were your ideas. I simply underscored them for our readers.

'the apathetic' are not. They are already brain washed but not apathetic. Commercial media has done your job very well but nothing is perfect as even they have to let out some information in order to hang onto the scraps of credibility. Somethings the people don't forget and the longer you fool them, the more angry they get when they find out.

I think they're about ready to get very very pissed.

The brainwashed empathetic hoi polloi are seething. Prepare to meet thy doom.

Repent.