ON THE ATTACK IN FALLUJA Being a conspiracy theorist is fun. Every day you wake up and have to fight your way through the jungle of a new bunch of preposterous lies presented as gospel truth by the disgusting American media. Today we have some colorful fabrications about Rwanda - of which more later - and a real doozy about the dismemberment of some Americans in Falluja. Americans are all up in arms about this Somalia-style greeting to some no-doubt humanitarian American 'contractors' (also described as civilians "working for a security company", and, in case you are still doubtful, confirmed by the Pentagon as being civilians), serving in Iraq to make the lives of the Iraqi people better. Look at how the ingrate barbarians treat their liberators! Why we ought to . . . what? Drop bombs on them? Take over their country and steal their oil? Before analyzing the obvious problem with the story, I should consider the role of the contractors. These are evil, greedy, parasitic carpetbaggers who have come to Iraq under cover of the illegal American occupation to steal everything in Iraq that isn't nailed down. Death and dismemberment is just about what they deserve. But let us consider these 'contractors'. Falluja isn't a welcoming place for Americans. It is so bad, the American army won't go in there. Indeed, it appears that the 'contractors' were put in jeopardy because the army wasn't willing to take the risk of attempting to save them. Now we're supposed to believe that these 'contractors' were just having a swell time driving around Falluja enjoying the sights? These people weren't contractors. CIA or Special Forces, but not contractors. The truth has started to appear in that they were driving the type of vehicle driven by Special Forces and were wearing military-style dogtags. They were spies or worse, and were given the proper treatment for spies. The disgusting American media put out the usual Pentagon propaganda to incite immediate American hatred, and the truth comes later, when no one is paying attention.

Death and dismemberment is just about what they deserve.

"the only good mercenary is a dead mercenary"

-g

With all due respect to the victims of this subhuman behavior, I must ask what's all the fuss about?

This is exactly the kind of behavior that happens every day ALL over the Islamic world.

This is SOP for these cretins.

So the victims were "mercenaries?" Then why didn't they shoot back at the insurgents?

More bullshit from the liberal crystal ball, which sees only what it likes to believe, not what's really going on.

Rest assured, these islamanimals will get served.

They were obviously mercenaries. "Security Guards" is a euphemism, and "civilian" is sugarcoating to increase the tragedy of the story. Why is this fact hidden in the news reports?

I suspect that these "contractors" were known in Fallujah, and specifically targeted. They must stand out like a sore thumb, and the Iraqi militants in the city can probably spot American militants the way artists, dopers, gun nuts, and sex fiends are drawn to each other when vacationing in a foreign land.

The guys in Fallujah are probably like the Iraqi version of nutty American militia guys. It's bloodthirsty gun nuts versus bloodthirsty gun nuts.

The media spin to rile up anger is also pretty obvious. There have undoubtedly been some grisly killings in Iraq all along, some by Iraqis, and given the kill ratios estimated, a lot more by Americans.

"Support Our Troops. Bring Them Home Now, and Send More Mercenaries to Fallujah"

Until there's proof on the table.....we don't know.

The main article was a product of the NY Times, aka the Jayson Blair Anti-war Creative Writers. I think it was spun as a demoralizing propaganda piece to suggest America will lose in Iraq (tho we've won), rather than being used to rally Americans.

It's all opinion at this point.

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“Communism subjects the individual to arrest without lawful cause, punishment without trial, and forced labor as the right of the state. It decrees what information he shall receive, what art he shall produce, what leaders he shall follow, and what thoughts he shall think.” --H. S. Truman

The same reason why Iraqi troops killed by carpet bombing last year didn't shoot back - it is very hard to shoot back when you are dead. They were ambushed, remember? Ambushed while on their way to commit murder or torture, most likely.

Right, Walker baby. Just like the way the French won in Algeria and Vietnam, the Germans won in the USSR, and the US won in Southeast Asia. Victory is victory, even if it exists only in your tiny mind.

Then again, there was no evidence that these people had guns or they were on their way to commit murder or torture, but since I hate America, I'll make it up as I go along. Whatever it takes to make visions of sugarplums dance in my head. Hell, something needs to be going on up there.

Everyone knows that ex-Navy Seals and other Soldier of Fortune types working for "security" outfits in places like Iraq spend most of their time distributing fruits and vitamins to children, milk and baby bottles to mothers, and batteries, light bulbs, portable radios and other necessities to random adults. Why those dastardly fanatics thought they were on the scene to help the military oppress Iraqis or to help Bush and the oil companies steal Iraq's resources is beyond me. It shows that Islamo-Commie propaganda is still having an effect. We better close down some more newspapers - all in the name of freedom, of course.

“The same reason why Iraqi troops killed by carpet bombing last year didn't shoot back - it is very hard to shoot back when you are dead. They were ambushed, remember? Ambushed while on their way to commit murder or torture, most likely.”

Utter nonsense. You’d think a merry band of ‘murderers’ would be sufficiently armed to at least fire off ONE shot. But, like I said earlier, no one really knows what happened. Terrorist cowards especially love to shoot unarmed non-combatants.

“Right, Walker baby. Just like the way the French won in Algeria and Vietnam, the Germans won in the USSR, and the US won in Southeast Asia. Victory is victory, even if it exists only in your tiny mind.”

Saddam captured, Iraqi Army surrendered, democratic gummint in the works. Or do you need more indicators of victory? Sandscum insurgents are nothing new. Rest assured they will be wiped out in due time, despite your rooting for them. We have won and are still winning.

Despite all the negative hype and bullshit from the lying American liberal media, the Iraqis are grateful we’re there. If you want to see what a massive defeat looks like, look no further then Kerry in November.

Oh, and “tiny mind” is just an illusion. I just don’t need much brainpower to sap the idiotic, childish, ad hominem attacks from a group of socialists fading in the wash.

“Everyone knows that ex-Navy Seals and other Soldier of Fortune types working for ‘security’ outfits in places like Iraq spend most of their time distributing fruits and vitamins to children, milk and baby bottles to mothers, and batteries, light bulbs, portable radios and other necessities to random adults. Why those dastardly fanatics thought they were on the scene to help the military oppress Iraqis or to help Bush and the oil companies steal Iraq's resources is beyond me. It shows that Islamo-Commie propaganda is still having an effect. We better close down some more newspapers - all in the name of freedom, of course.”

There’s no sense arguing with this kind of ‘logic.’ There’s not one iota of proof that Iraqi oil has EVER been seized w/o compensation versus being bought for American use. As for the mercs, more power to them. Without them to kill shit-eating terrorists and protect the technologies which sandscum don’t even know how to build, none of the aid you mentioned would reach the intended recipients.

Neither the Pale-shitstains (that fictional group that didn’t exist before 1947) nor victicrats ever lose graciously. You’d think by now they would, since they’ve had and WILL have LOTS of experience at losing.

Bush behind in the polls, with rising unemployment, growing class disparities, a surplus replaced by a massive deficit, and an unpopular war with no end in sight.

The US military in Iraq, suffering daily casualties, unable to cross Baghdad even in armoured vehicles without being blown to pieces, demoralized troops, numerous suicides, a President reluctant to institute a draft because he knows it would cost him the election, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff worried about what they could do if China annexed Taiwan and North Korea invaded the capitalist south at the same time they were bogged down in a hopeless war against gurerillas in Iraq.

SOME VICTORIES

"with rising unemployment"



Beyond all the other nonsense you've posted, you certainly know that this is simply a boldfaced lie, right?

Do some research before you open your trap.

Unemployment has been declining and has been under the 10 year average for some time now.

I understand your compulsion to hate but why lie?

See that ultra-left site, today's Drudge Report, where Kerry explains that Bush is making a big deal out of one month of job creation after three years of steady job losses. I hope the former factory workers whose jobs have been shipped to the Third World really like those positions at Burger King that Bush and his supporters have made available to them. Now that they have their Burger jobs they can take advantage of Bush's new lower taxes on yachts and capital gains and the abolition of the inheritance tax. Whoopie.

waiter: "Oh, and “tiny mind” is just an illusion. "

...maybe, but it's a damn good one!

“Bush behind in the polls, with rising unemployment, growing class disparities, a surplus replaced by a massive deficit, and an unpopular war with no end in sight.”

The illusion of “growing class disparities” are what keeps the left in business, so be grateful. “The poor” in America are richer than the wealthy in many countries. Class warfare baloney is a staple of the left. The deficit doesn’t matter—it certainly would’ve been worse under a (shudder) President Gore.

To the liberal, the only popular war is an unwinnable one (i.e. “War” on Poverty).

”The US military in Iraq, suffering daily casualties, unable to cross Baghdad even in armoured vehicles without being blown to pieces, demoralized troops, numerous suicides, a President reluctant to institute a draft because he knows it would cost him the election, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff worried about what they could do if China annexed Taiwan and North Korea invaded the capitalist south at the same time they were bogged down in a hopeless war against gurerillas in Iraq.

SOME VICTORIES”

Welcome to the real world beyond the kollij kampus walls. Evil exists and people die.

The same people who OPPOSED the war now expect a neat, clean, easily winnable victory in Iraq, while refusing to acknowledge ANY small victories.

There’s no pleasing some people, i.e. socialist utopians.

China hasn't got its oil reserves and such built up yet so dont worry they wont mess with you until after iraq is over. the US has control of the oil supply for china via the malacas straights. Besides a war with taiwan at the moment would be embarassing to the chinese.

And south korea would defeat nth Korea in a war. So the US could come late to the party if it had to. (not that you would need much to defeat nth korea).

I'm a member of the Angry Right who will never cave in to my feelings of sympathy.

The poor deserve all the suffering they get.

Kindness is weakness. Killing is living.

I will kill my neighbor to save my family, and I will kill my family to save myself. Guns don't kill people. I kill people... using other people, with guns.

Inequality is fairness. Poverty is justice.

Money is truth. Myth is more objective than fact.

Might is Right.