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gathering anticivilization

by llavor d'anarquia Friday, Mar. 19, 2004 at 4:11 PM

Last year we held our first gathering of people against civilization, in Can Masdeu, Barcelona. We think that the results were quite good: the number of people that came, the debates and the connections that the gathering made possible.

We send you our second call for the gathering and it can be quite nice if you can spread it or translate it to any other language.




1.- WEABING A COBWEB: April 30, May 1, 2 and 3


Last year we held our first gathering of people against civilization, in Can Masdeu, Barcelona. We think that the results were quite good: the number of people that came, the debates and the connections that the gathering made possible.

That was a year ago, and along this year more contacts had been possible with other anarchists, who support the criticism against the civilization and the domination as a more “realistic” base than the traditional critics than can go further of what is a mere criticism of HOW to manage the megamachine: actually, what we need is to write a end to its own existence.

Right now we are, at least in most of the Iberica peninsula and Europe, a weak nebulous of groups and people, magazines and fanzines, radio shows and websites... It is not that we desire to stop been smalls, mostly we are interested in a human scale and we dislike big organizations. We don’t want to dilute our dreams into a chimerical social majority, so inevitable unshaped.

But what we do want is to be more people and more groups in the movement, with a better relation. In fact, we want to weave a network of groups and people associated in freedom, through horizontal relations, as permanent or fleeting, as will be their wishes of been together. Although, we want a network that could be able to establish relationships of agreement or discrepancy between us, a network able to materialize meeting in the time and the space to fight the system that is destroying the Earth and their inhabitants, as well as to be able to make the discrepancies compatibles.

In this way, besides our talk about our fights, experiences, realities, skills… we also want to talk about how we can build a cobweb of anti-civilization relationships. In these sense we have adopted the image of a spider as a symbol of the 2004 Gathering.



Reception of the participants. In the evening, the first meeting to prepare the activities of the following days.


Morning: Weaving a Cobweb: how to build a network of relationships? What do we want to achieve? What do we want to do and how?

Afternoon: workshops about artificialition and nanotechnology. And other practical workshops to define.


Morning: new (and old) ways to fight civilization in their different aspects. Several workshops: the consumerism, the car, the patriarchy, the religion...

Afternoon: workshops on techniques to a un-civilized autonomy and others practical workshops, not defined yet.


Farewell and final meetings to close the debates and to concrete the unresolved questions.

There is a possibility, after the gathering of visiting the Ebro river, affected by the Hydrological National Plan (PHN), specially the Ebro´s delta.


We have 2 or 3 places for the gathering in Tarragona and Lleida (both in Catalonia), but we don’t have decided yet the exact place. We expect that it will be decided at the beginning of April. Right now, we can tell you that it will be in the countryside. So, you need to bring with you a tent, a sleeping bag or blankets. (It may be a bit cold in Catalonia in May). To get information about the exact place and anything else you want to ask us, please write to or llavor C/Mestres Casals i Martorell 18 Baixos 08003 BARCELONA (Spanish State).

This time we should be responsible for the meals (last year a collective assumed to prepare the food with some help from us). The people who are making the call for this gathering will have ready the ingredients for Friday’s dinner, Saturday’s and Sunday’s meals, and Monday’s breakfast. If you are thinking to be in the campsite Friday and Monday, then you have to be responsible for your lunch. You must also bring what you need for eating: forks, spoons, plates, mug, ? The cost for the food will be about 11 euros per day, but we still have to count more precisely, and we are going to tell it. The food, of course, will be vegetarian with a vegan option.

Also, we hope to be able to organized some events to have fun on Friday’s, Saturday’s and Sunday’s nights. We have the purpose of get what will be necessary to play videos and music you would like to show to the rest of participants. And we trust in your skills and help.

Children, and people with any special necessity are welcome, but it will be good to know in advance, in order to ease their reception and to provide whatever you need.

If someone want to stay in Catalonia some days, you can ask us for information of places to visit, routes, contacts...

2.- 30 aprile, 1, 2 e 3 maggio - TESSENDO LA RAGNATELA


Lo scorso anno abbiamo tenuto un primo incontro di persone contro la civilizzazione a Can Masdeu, presso Barcellona. L’esito è stato sufficientemente soddisfacente sia a livello partecipativo e di contenuto dei dibattiti che dei contatti che si sono stabiliti…

E’ trascorso un anno, i contatti si sono estesi ad altri anarchici che hanno assunto la critica alla civilizzazione e alla dominazione come una base più “realistica” rispetto alle tradizionali, limitate alla critica della gestione della megamacchina e non a combattere l’esistenza della stessa.

Adesso costituiamo, almeno nella gran parte della penisola iberica e dell’Europa, una nebulosa molto tenue di gruppi e di persone, di pubblicazioni e fanzine, di programmi su radio libere e pagine internet… non vogliamo smettere di essere piccoli, ci interessa la scala umana e non ci piacciono le grandi organizzazioni, non volgiamo diluire i nostri sogni in una chimerica maggioranza sociale, inevitabilmente amorfa.

Ma se vogliamo essere in più individui e in più gruppi, con migliori contatti, dobbiamo tessere una rete di gruppi ed individui liberamente associati, con relazioni orizzontali sia in maniera permanente, o molto meno permanente, a seconda della nostra volontà di stare assieme. Ossia una rete capace di trasmettere informazioni ed esperienze in una maniera efficiente, capace di stabilire contatti di coincidenza e discrepanza tra di noi, capace di promuovere coincidenze nel tempo e nello spazio per combattere il sistema che sta distruggendo la terra ed i suoi abitanti, ma anche capace di rendere compatibili i mancati incontri…

Per questo oltre che parlare delle nostre lotte, del nostro vissuto, delle nostre realtà, vogliamo anche parlare di come tessere una ragnatela di contatti anticivilizzatori, per questo motivo abbiamo adottato l’immagine di un ragno quale simbolo dell’incontro del 2004.

Proposta di Programma

Venerdì 30

Accoglienza dei partecipanti, in pomeriggio prima riunione per preparare le attività dei giorni seguenti.

Sabato 1

Mattina: tessendo la ragnatela, come stabilire una rete di contatti, cosa vogliamo ottenere, cosa vogliamo fare e come.

Pomeriggio: seminari sull’artificializzazione e la nanotecnologia ed altri seminari pratici da definire.

Domenica 2

Mattina: nuove (e vecchie) forme di scontrarci con la civilizzazione nei suoi differenti aspetti; gruppi di dibattito sul consumo, sull’automobile, sul patriarcato, sulla religione…

Pomeriggio: seminari di tecniche per l’autonomia non civilizzata ed altri seminari pratici da definire.

Lunedì 3

Saluti ed incontri finali per terminare dibattiti e concretizzare aspetti rimasti in sospeso.

C’è la possibilità che, terminati gli incontri, si faccia una visita alle terre dell’Ebro, danneggiate dal Plan Hidrológico Nacional, specie in corrispondenza della foce di detto fiume.

Aspetti organizzativi

Abbiamo 2 o 3 luoghi in cui tenere gli incontri a Tarragona o a Lérida, bisogna ancora decidere il luogo esatto, cercheremo di farlo per i primi di aprile, Anticipiamo che sarà in campagna e che bisogna portarsi dietro tenda, sacco a pelo o coperte (in maggio fa ancora freddo in Catalogna). Per conoscere il luogo esatto conviene scrivere a o a llavor C/Mestres Casals i Martorell 18 Baixos

08003 BARCELONA (Estado español).

Questa volta per mangiare ce ne occuperemo tutti, a differenza dello scorso anno dove un collettivo s’è assunto il compito con l’appoggio degli altri. Noi che convochiamo l’incontro ci occuperemo di reperire gli alimenti per la cena del venerdì, colazione, pranzo e cena di sabato e domenica ed infine la colazione del lunedì. Per il pranzo del venerdì e quello del lunedì ognuno si organizzerà come meglio crede. Bisogna portare con sé posate, piatto e bicchiere. Il costo per mangiare per un giorno completo è all’incirca di 11 euro, ma dobbiamo ancora definirlo. L’alimentazione sarà vegetariana, con una opzione vegana.

Speriamo di riuscire a preparare momenti ludici per le nottate di venerdì, sabato e domenica. Intendiamo preparare mezzi audiovisivi per riprodurre il materiale che porterete, lo stesso confidiamo nelle vostre capacità.

I bambini piccoli e le persone con qualche problema saranno i benvenuti. Per facilitare la loro accoglienza sarebbe bene, anche se non è imprescindibile, che ci venissero comunicati i loro bisogni in modo da rendere più accessibile il luogo e tutto ciò che risulti necessario. Se qualcuno resta in Catalogna per qualche giorno, approfittando dell’occasione, potrà chiederci informazioni sui luoghi da visitare, itinerari e contatti.

3.-30 de abril, 1, 2 y 3 de mayo. TEJIENDO LA TELARAÑA.


El año pasado celebramos un primer encuentro de personas contra la civilización en Can Masdeu, cerca de Barcelona. El resultado fue suficientemente satisfactorio, tanto por la asistencia, el contenido de los debates, las relaciones establecidas ....

Ha pasado un año y se han ido extendiendo los contactos con otros anarquistas que han asumido la crítica a la civilización y a la dominación. Esta crítica representa una base más “realista” que las críticas tradicionales que se limitan a la crítica de la gestión de la megamáquina y no a combatir su existencia en sí.

Ahora constituimos, al menos en la mayor parte de la Península Ibérica y Europa, una nebulosa muy tenue de grupos y personas, de revistas y fanzines, de programas en radios libres y páginas de internet. No es que queramos dejar de ser pequeños, pues nos interesan las relaciones a escala humana y nos desagradan las grandes organizaciones. No queremos diluir nuestros sueños en una quimérica mayoría social, inevitablemente amorfa.

Pero sí que queremos ser más gente y más grupos, y estar mejor relacionados. Por eso, queremos tejer una malla de grupos y personas asociados libremente, con relaciones horizontales tan permanente, o poco permanentes, como sean los deseos de estar juntos. Ahora bien, una red capaz de transmitir información y experiencias de una manera eficiente, capaz de estableces relaciones de coincidencia y de discrepancia entre nosotros, capaz de concitar coincidencias en el tiempo y en el espacio para combatir el sistema que está destruyendo la tierra y sus habitantes. Aunque también capaz de hacer compatibles los desencuentros...

O sea, además de hablar de nuestras luchas, nuestras vivencias, nuestras realidades, queremos hablar también de cómo construir una telaraña de relaciones anticivilización. Por esto, hemos adoptado la imagen de una araña como símbolo del encuentro del 2004.


Viernes 30.

Acogida de los participantes. Por la tarde, primera reunión para preparar las actividades de los otros días.

Sábado 1.

Mañana: tejiendo la telaraña, cómo establecer una red de relaciones, qué queremos conseguir, qué queremos hacer y cómo.

Tarde: talleres sobre la artificialización y la nanotecnología y otros talleres prácticos a concretar.

Domingo 2.

Mañana: nuevas (y viejas) formas de enfrentarnos a la civilización en sus diferentes aspectos: el consumo, el automóvil, el patriarcado, la religión... Grupos de debate.

Tarde: talleres de técnicas para la autonomía incivilizada y otros talleres prácticos a concretar.

Lunes 3.

Despedida y reuniones finales para acabar debates y concretar cuestiones pendientes.

Hay la posibilidad de que, al acabar los encuentros, se haga una visita a las tierras del Ebro, afectadas por el Plan Hidrológico Nacional, concretamente al delta del Ebro.


Tenemos 2 o 3 lugares donde se pueden celebrar los encuentros en Tarragona y en Lérida. Aún hay que acabar de concretar el lugar exacto, esperaremos que a principios de abril estará decido. Ahora podemos decir que será en el campo. Por tanto, es necesario traer tienda de campaña y saco de dormir o mantas (mayo puede ser frío en Cataluña). Para poder enterase del lugar es conveniente escribir a o a llavor C/Mestres Casals i Martorell 18 Baixos 08003 BARCELONA (Estado español).

Esta vez la comida se hará entre todos (al contrario del año pasado en que un colectivo asumía, con apoyo, la elaboración), las personas que convocamos los encuentros prepararemos ingredientes para la cena del viernes, las comidas completas de sábado y domingo y el desayuno del lunes. La comida del viernes y del lunes cada uno se la ha de organizar como quiera y pueda. Es necesario traer cubiertos, plato y vaso. El coste de la comida lo estimamos en unos 11 euros por día completo, pero nos falta concretarlo definitivamente. La comida será vegetariana con opción vegana.

Esperamos poder preparar actos lúdicos las noches de viernes, sábado y domingo. Tenemos la intención de preparar medios audiovisuales para reproducir el material que queráis traer, y confiamos en vuestras habilidades, sobre todo.

Los niños pequeños y las personas con alguna necesidad especial son bienvenidos. Para facilitar su acogida seria bueno, aunque no imprescindible, que nos comunicasen su asistencia, para facilitar el acceso, la acampada y lo que sea necesario.

Si alguien se queda en Cataluña algunos días aprovechando el desplazamiento, puede pedirnos información sobre lugares a visitar, itinerarios, contactos ....

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