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Claremont Colleges say no to hate crimes: rally tonight at 8 pm open to public

by peace Thursday, Mar. 11, 2004 at 2:43 PM

Claremont Colleges cancel classes due to hate crime. Rally tonight at 8 pm open to the public.

Pomona College joins other Claremont Colleges in canceling classes for one day on March 10 in response to hate crime.

Pomona College, Claremont McKenna College, Scripps College, Harvey Mudd College and Pitzer College have all canceled classes for Wednesday, March 10, in a show of solidarity in response to a hate crime that occurred Tuesday night in a parking lot shared by Pomona and Claremont McKenna colleges. The five colleges are all members of The Claremont College consortium and located on contiguous campuses.

According to reports, a car belonging to a Claremont McKenna faculty member who had just taken part in a forum on hate speech was vandalized sometime between 4 p.m. and 8 p.m. Tuesday. The windows of the car were broken, the tires slashed, and the body of the vehicle spray-painted with racial, misogynist and anti-Semitic epithets. Claremont Police are currently investigating the incident, which has been formally classified as a hate crime. Claremont McKenna College has offered a $10,000 reward for information leading to a solution to the crime.

Pomona College President David Oxtoby urged students and faculty to use the day to come together to demonstrate their unity in opposing acts of intimidation and to discuss future steps to build trust and improve the climate of racial understanding on campus. “We must realize that education needs to take place outside as well as inside the classroom,” President Oxtoby wrote to the College community Wednesday morning. “I ask that each of you use this change in daily routines to further this education.”

A number of events have been scheduled for The Claremont Colleges campuses during this “Day of Solidarity and Teaching,” leading up to a rally at 8 p.m. tonight (March 10) on the Claremont McKenna campus.

Here is a list of scheduled events:
8 a.m.-Noon — Teach-in and gathering on Pomona’s Marston Quad, to give students an opportunity to discuss the incident and other incidents involving hate speech in recent weeks.

Starting at 9:30 a.m., continuing through the day — Film of the vandalized car may be viewed in the Rose Hills Theatre in Smith Campus Center on Pomona’s campus.

10 a.m. — A gathering at the Office of Black Student Affairs (East 7th Street). The gathering will move from OBSA to Collins Dining Hall at Claremont McKenna at 11 a.m. in an expression of solidarity with other campuses.

Noon-6 p.m. — A sit-in on the North Quad of Claremont McKenna College. All community members are welcome to sit and discuss their reactions, feelings and ideas as a show of support for those threatened by this incident and a stand against acts of hate.

5 p.m. — A Pomona College community meeting on Marston Quad. Students, faculty and staff are invited to continue the discussion of Tuesday night's incident and Pomona’s response to it.

6:30 p.m.-8 p.m. — Dinner for Pomona students, faculty and staff on Marston Quad.

8 p.m. — A culminating rally at Claremont McKenna College’s North Quad, with a range of student speakers.

Tuesday's incident came on the heels of a series of other events involving hate speech or racial insensitivity that had angered the college communities in recent weeks.

The first of those, which took place in January, during the colleges’ winter break, involved the theft of a student artwork in the shape of a cross from the Pomona College campus by a group of students from three sister campuses, who took the cross to Harvey Mudd College and burned it there. The event sparked a series of protests and forums on the campuses dealing with questions of hate speech and hate crime.

Another incident involved a campus group that organized a scavenger hunt, one item of which was a photograph including 10 "Asian" students. The group later publicly apologized. Subsequently, a letter from a Pomona student to the student newspaper explaining why he had found that incident offensive and troubling drew a flurry of racist and threatening responses on the newspaper's online bulletin board. Eventually, the responses were all traced to sources outside The Claremont Colleges.

A third incident occurred on the campus of Claremont McKenna College at the end of February, involving a calendar on a residence hall bulletin board that was defaced with a racial epithet.

"I am shocked that such an appalling crime has taken place in our midst." Oxtoby said. "A community like ours has a degree of fragility, and this action strikes at the community and makes all of us vulnerable. When some of our members feel threatened, we all do."

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There's no such thing as a "hate crime"

by Orwellian bullshit whistle Friday, Mar. 12, 2004 at 2:04 AM

The loony left is at it again, trying to punish ideas and idealogies (except their own) instead of real crimes (i.e. theft, destruction of property, etc).

Your feelings are not guaranteed protection from insults or disagreement under any law, except the ones fabricated on marxist kampuses.

YOU GOT SERVED.



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How dare you

by Ignorance whistle Friday, Mar. 12, 2004 at 9:26 AM

How dare you, Orwellian bullshit wistle, say that the incident that took place on Tuesday was not a crime. Are broken windows and slashed tires on a person's car not destruction of property, one of your own definitions of real crime? And the theft and burning of a student's art piece, be it cross-shaped or otherwise, would still be considered a crime, would it not? And it just so happens that the languages and implied messages that went along with those crimes coincide with a 200-hundred-year history of hate, oppression, and prejudice. That my friend, is the definition of a hate crime, a very real thing that your ignorance only encourages and perpetuates, much to the pain and discomfort of so many fellow human beings. How dare you. Please educate yourself, and don't ever disregard something so serious as this as the "loony left" merely "punishing idealogies."
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It's Ideology

by editor Friday, Mar. 12, 2004 at 10:49 AM

How can you take Orwellian seriously when they can't even spell ideology?
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Doesn't know Orwell either

by neo-racists suck.. Friday, Mar. 12, 2004 at 11:14 AM

The moron "whistle-blower" above doesn't know crap about George Orwell either, who would have blasted such ignorant reactionary actions as those taken by the cowards at Claremont. The reactionaries are giving in to just
straight out violence--the precedent was the invasion
of Iraq, a racist war if there ever was one. Now that the
empire has no clothes and their crimes are out in the
open (Iraq, and now Haiti), its supporters are going
ape-shit because they're realizing that they're just
plain losers and a Jesus snuff film by Mr. Gibson wont
save their souls. The far right, bush the dick-tator and his administration of "ciminals and liars" (thank you Mr. Kerry for the honesty) are to blame for this neo-racism that will tear our nation apart.



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OneEyedMan

by KPC Friday, Mar. 12, 2004 at 2:40 PM

I wonder if the Orwellian Meat Whistle supports a constitutional amendment to stop flag burning?
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IS THAT ALL YOU GOT, GOMERS?

by Orwellian bullshit whistle Saturday, Mar. 13, 2004 at 3:10 AM


How dare you, Orwellian bullshit wistle, say that the incident that took place on Tuesday was not a crime.

REREAD IT. I SIMPLY SAID THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS A ‘HATE CRIME’ VERSUS REAL CRIMES LIKE DESTROYING PROPERTY. AND YES, I **DO** DARE OPPOSE TYRANNY BY WHINY SO-CALLED MINORITIES WHO DESERVE ZERO 'SPECIAL' TREATMENT FROM THE LAW, ONLY THE SAME TREATMENT AS WHITEY.

Are broken windows and slashed tires on a person's car not destruction of property, one of your own definitions of real crime?

UH. YEAH. I SAID THIS. DONE REREADING?

And the theft and burning of a student's art piece, be it cross-shaped or otherwise, would still be considered a crime, would it not?

YES. THE THEFT AND BURNING WERE CRIMES, BUT NOT ANY KIND OF RESULTING ‘SYMBOLISM.' WHY SHOULD ANYONE GET 'EXTRA' PUNISHMENT BECAUSE **YOU** DONT LIKE THE SYMBOLISM?

And it just so happens that the languages and implied messages that went along with those crimes coincide with a 200-hundred-year history of hate, oppression, and prejudice.

THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO PENALIZE THE PHILOSOPHY, HOWEVER WRONG OR TWISTED IT IS. IT'S A SHAME YOU MAY FEEL BAD ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S NOT A CRIME EITHER. THE TRUTH IS, NO ONE--NOT EVEN MAGICKAL LIBERALS--CAN LOOK INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S HEART OR READ THEIR THOUGHTS.

AS FOR THE USUAL ACCUSATIONS AGAINST AMERICA, YOU’RE DESCRIBING ONLY HALF THE STORY. IF IT’S SO BAD HERE, PICK A BETTER COUNTRY THAN AMERICA. GO ON. I'M BETTING YOU CAN’T DO IT, SO PLEASE ENOUGH WITH THE 'POOR-ME VICTIM' CRAP.

That my friend, is the definition of a hate crime, a very real thing that your ignorance only encourages and perpetuates, much to the pain and discomfort of so many fellow human beings. How dare you. Please educate yourself, and don't ever disregard something so serious as this as the "loony left" merely "punishing idealogies."

IT IS EXACTLY AS I CALLED IT, FRIEND. I HAVE NO IGNORANCE ABOUT THE MEANING OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT, UNLIKE SO MANY HERE AT INDYCOMMIE.ORG.
IN AMERICA, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CRIMINALIZE THOUGHTS, SYMBOLS, SPEECH OR IDE-O-LOGY (word to the grammar nazi). BUT THAT’S JUST WHAT IS BEING PROMOTED AT MARXIST-THEORY KOLLIJES (SIC) ALL OVER.

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How can you take Orwellian seriously when they can't even spell ideology?

YOU DON’T HAVE TO TAKE ME SERIOUSLY. YOU DO HAVE TO STOP USING THE CONSTITUTION AS TOILET PAPER WHENEVER YOUR FEELINGS ARE WOUNDED. "HEY HEY HO HO THE LAWLESS LEFT NEEDS TO GO.".

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The moron "whistle-blower" above doesn't know crap about George Orwell either, who would have blasted such ignorant reactionary actions as those taken by the cowards at Claremont.

I KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO ABOUT ORWELL, PAL. IT’S OBVIOUS EVEN TO THE LAMP POST WHO IS REALLY A FEW CLUES SHORT OF A MYSTERY.

THE REAL CRIMES WERE--IN FACT--COWARDLY AND WRONG. BUT OTHER THAN THE DAMAGE DONE TO LIFE OR PROPERTY, THERE WERE NO OTHER CRIMES.

LIBERAL KOLLIJ KAMPUSES (SIC) ARE THE NEW MINISTRY OF TRUTH.

The reactionaries are giving in to just
straight out violence--the precedent was the invasion
of Iraq, a racist war if there ever was one.

BUT SADDAM WASN’T RACIST, RIGHT? BECAUSE HE JAMMED HIS **OWN** BROWN PEOPLE INTO THE SHREDDERS. HE RAPED HIS *OWN* WOMEN AND GASSED HIS *OWN* CHILDREN.. IF ANYONE’S A FUCKING RACIST, IT’S YOU, A WHITEY & WESTERN CULTURE-HATING INGRATE.

Now that the
empire has no clothes and their crimes are out in the
open (Iraq, and now Haiti), its supporters are going
ape-shit because they're realizing that they're just
plain losers and a Jesus snuff film by Mr. Gibson wont
save their souls. The far right, bush the dick-tator and his administration of "ciminals and liars" (thank you Mr. Kerry …)

YEAH, VIET-TRAITOR KERRY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SOME IGNORAMUS WEARING A “RAGE AGAINST THE DILDO” T-SHIRT AND BIRKENSTOCKS CARRYING AROUND A DOG-EARED 'COMMUNIST MANIFESTO. '

FRENCHY KERRY MARRIED $400 MILLION. THINK HE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU? HA HA HA. **HE’S** NOT GOING TO BE HURT BY HIGHER TAXES—YOU ARE—DUMMY. BUT LIKE LEMMING FOOLS, GIVING AWAY 40% OF YOUR INCOME TO TAXES JUST ISN'T ENOUGH.

I LOVE HOW YOU LIBERALS DEVELOP AMNESIA WHENEVER 9/11 IS MENTIONED. OR THE 12 YEARS SADDAM THUMBED HIS NOSE AT THE WORLD OVER WMDS (he never had them, except when he used them on his own people in 1998).
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I wonder if the Orwellian Meat Whistle supports a constitutional amendment to stop flag burning?

WONDER NO MORE, DOOFUS. I CAN TOLERATE IDIOTS BURNING THE U.S. FLAG. IF ANYONE IS SUPPORTING LAWS TO BAN FREE SPEECH, IT'S YOU PRO-"HATE CRIME" FOOLS.

A BETTER AMENDMENT WOULD BE PRO-HIPPIE BURNING. HA HA HA. YOU’RE A ‘ONE-EYED’ SOMETHING ALL RIGHT.

P.S. YOU ALL GOT SERVED, WITHOUT NAPKINS.



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You go, brother!!!

by Ignat Saturday, Mar. 13, 2004 at 6:29 AM

Serve those frickin' idiot lefties, and keep servin' em!

There's no such thing as a hate crime, absolutely goddam right. Arrest the a-holes that did it, lock them up, but leave your hurt feelings out of it.
Were the clowns who torched the SUV dealership guilty of hate crimes? The cases seem pretty similar, dont'cha think?
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, Mar. 13, 2004 at 9:43 AM

Umm...Meat Whistle, it was 1988 when SH gassed the Kurds, not 1998...with US complicity of course...Same Kurds that Bush allowed SH to fly helicopters in No Fly Zones to kill right after the Gulf War....

...but how would you know, you weren't born yet...

...probably just a tickle is some drunken sailors nutsack at the time....

So you don't support a flag burning law? Good...now...then you must not support laws with special punishment for crimes against police...or for shooting the president (they are just people like you and me...right?)...and you must be against any conviction for first degree murder, I mean no one can look into someone else's heart to determine intent...right?....and you must be against three strikes law...I mean, why should the fourth crime be SPECIAL....huh?.....and you must be for drug legalizations, right....'cause there's no real difference between heroin and a hiball....

....geez, you sound like just another one of those crazed INDYMEDIACOMMIES!
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OneEyedMan

by KPC Saturday, Mar. 13, 2004 at 10:05 AM

...and you want to free Sherman Austin I bet...I mean, he was just exercising his 1st Amendment rights.....
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Angel05

by Tiffany williams Saturday, Mar. 13, 2004 at 10:16 AM

To deny the existance of hate crimes is to deny hate exists in this country. It does exist. it manifests in different forms. Symbolism is real and it hurts people. Do you think the KKK burned crosses because they thought they were promoting community? No, they burned on lawns and chruchyards to insight fear, to intimidate. They used is as a warning; violence will follow. The word 'nigger' is used to oppress. Slave were called niggers, because they were ignorant. Slavery has ended, therefore the word needs to die. Don't tell me words don't mean anything or have historical or emotional meaning. We use language to invoke emotion and thought. We use violence to invoke fear. We ignore hate because we hope it doesn't exist around us and it does.

Ignoring and forgetting is what repeats history. Some people 'forgot' what a burning cross meant, however, the people who remembered felt scared. Even if they 'understand' there was no maliance intent. If minorites started attacking white people, would that be a hate crime or the left rising against the right?

Why does something have to be directly pointed at you to care? Don't you care for humanity? Can't you see past your privilege for one second and see minorites are being hurt? Are you that selfish? Hate exists in this world. Deal with it.
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HATE IS NOT A CRIME. HATE CRIMES ARE A CRIME.

by Orwellian bullshit whistle Saturday, Mar. 13, 2004 at 2:33 PM


Umm...Meat Whistle, it was 1988 when SH gassed the Kurds, not 1998...with US complicity of course...Same Kurds that Bush allowed SH to fly helicopters in No Fly Zones to kill right after the Gulf War....

>>>> YOU’RE RIGHT THAT I MISTOOK THE DATE… I MEANT SADDAM **HAD** THE WEAPONS IN ‘98. OF COURSE, THE MURDERED KURDS FROM ‘88 ARE STILL DEAD.

AS FOR HELICOPTERING, I JUST LOVE HOW EVERY NOTABLE EVENT IN HISTORY HAS A NICE LIBERAL BACKSTORY.

“WHAT MOST AMERICANS (THE FOOLS) DON’T KNOW ABOUT HITLER IS HE WAS A NICE GUY UNTIL SOME VISITING AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE JEW PUT ITCHING POWDER IN HIS SLEEPING BAG. ..**THAT’S** WHY HITLER TURNED BAD. (OH, ALSO, IT’S THE CIA’S FAULT).

...but how would you know, you weren't born yet...
...probably just a tickle is some drunken sailors nutsack at the time....

>>>>> Ah ha ha….I’m surprised you took time out from markering FOR A GOOD TIME on the quad's bathroom stall, you condescending hipster doofus.

So you don't support a flag burning law? Good...now...then you must not support laws with special punishment for crimes against police...or for shooting the president (they are just people like you and me...right?)...

>>> POLICE ON THE JOB ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LAW. THE PRESIDENT IS THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD. I NOTICE WE IMPRISON OR EXECUTE PEOPLE WHO ATTACK POLICE AND THE PRESIDENT BUT WE DON’T TORTURE THEM OR DISH OUT ‘EXTRA’ PUNISHMENT.

>>> OH, AND SINCE LIBERAL HERO HINKLEY IS OUT ON PAROLE, I GUESS IT **DOESN’T** MATTER
**WHO** ONE SHOOTS.

and you must be against any conviction for first degree murder, I mean no one can look into someone else's heart to determine intent...right?
>>> WE HAVE THIS LITTLE THING CALLED ‘THE LEGAL SYSTEM.’ LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, COUNSELOR. WHO IS MORE “EVIL”:.... A HIT MAN GOES ON TRIAL AND SAYS, A) “I KILLED THAT GUY FOR $10,000” OR B) “I KILLED THAT GUY FOR $10,000…AND BECAUSE HE’S A JEW.” I DON’T KNOW YOUR ANSWER, BUT ACCORDING TO LIBERAL HORSESHIT, THE GUY WHO SAID “B” IS SOMEHOW ‘MORE EVIL.’ WHAT HAPPY HORSESHIT.

.and you must be against three strikes law...I mean, why should the fourth crime be SPECIAL....huh?

I’M AGAINST 3 STRIKES IN A LOT OF SITUATIONS. I THINK IF YOU MURDER SOMEONE YOU SHOULD BE EXECUTED AFTER ONE STRIKE. SAME GOES FOR RAPISTS. LOOK UP THE WORD ‘SOPHISTRY’ MY FRIEND. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE, A SOPHIST.
.....and you must be for drug legalizations, right....'cause there's no real difference between heroin and a hiball....

DRUG LEGALIZATION: WHETHER YOU TAKE A SHOT OF WHISKEY OR SHOOT UP WITH HEROIN, UNLESS YOU WERE FORCED TO DO SO AT GUNPOINT, ***YOU*** MADE THE CALL. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL YOURSELF, JUST DON’T HURT ANYONE ELSE DOING IT. QUITE THE OPPOSITE PHILOSOPHY FROM THE LIBERAL NANNY STATE.

WE ON THE ‘REPUBLITARIAN’ RIGHT CALL IT “FREEDOM.”

....geez, you sound like just another one of those crazed INDYMEDIACOMMIES!

>>> IF I TRULY DID, I WOULDN’T GET ALL THESE SOUL-PATCH WEARING “ERUDITE” NEO-HIPPIES IN AN UPROAR.

PARTY OF ONE, YOU GOT SERVED (AGAIN).

and you want to free Sherman Austin I bet...I mean, he was just exercising his 1st Amendment rights....

>>>> I DON’T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HIS CASE EITHER WAY. IF HE URGED THE OVERTHROW OF THE GUMMINT, THEN HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED. BUT I’M SURE NO MATTER ** WHAT** HE DID, IT’S PERFECTLY OKAY, SINCE HE’S BLACK AND THE SYSTEM HATES BLACKS THEREFORE HE’S INNOCENT…OR SO *YOU* SAY.

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To deny the existance of hate crimes is to deny hate exists in this country. It does exist. it manifests in different forms. Symbolism is real and it hurts people. Do you think the KKK burned crosses because they thought they were promoting community? No, they burned on lawns and chruchyards to insight fear, to intimidate. They used is as a warning; violence will follow.

>>>> ‘HATRED’ IS REAL. ‘HATE CRIMES’ ARE A FICTION OF THE LEFT WHO WANT TO BRING THE LAW IN WHERE IT DOESN’T BELONG. THE KKK HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BURN A CROSS (ON THEIR PROPERTY) AS YOU DO TO PUT A MENORAH IN THE WINDOW.
>>>> MOST PEOPLE DESPISE THE KLAN (INCLUDING ME) …THEY’RE IGNORANT, RACIST ATTENTION WHORES. BUT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. PLUS, I'D RATHER MY OPPONENTS STATE THEIR INTENTIONS OPENLY.

>>>> YOUR FEAR OF THE KLAN (OR WHATEVER GROUP OR IDEA) IS REAL...IN YOUR MIND. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO PUNISH OTHERS’ FREE SPEECH BECAUSE THEY “MADE” YOU FEEL AFRAID. THAT IS MY POINT.

>>>> The word 'nigger' is used to oppress. Slave were called niggers, because they were ignorant. Slavery has ended, therefore the word needs to die.

>>>> THE WORD ‘NIGGER’ IS JUST THAT: A WORD. AND LIKE MOST WORDS, ITS MEANING CHANGES WITH TIME (I.E. RAPPERS USING “NIGGA”)

YOU BELIEVE THE WORD ‘NIGGER’ NEEDS “TO DIE” AND THAT’S FINE. UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU, YOUR OPINION DOES NOT WARRANT OR REQUIRE A LAW BANNING OTHERS FROM SAYING IT.

Don't tell me words don't mean anything or have historical or emotional meaning. We use language to invoke emotion and thought. We use violence to invoke fear. We ignore hate because we hope it doesn't exist around us and it does.

>>>> WORDS ARE WORDS. YOU STILL CHOOSE HOW YOU’RE GOING TO REACT. BY GIVING IN TO FEAR, YOU’VE GIVEN THE KLAN (OR WHOMEVER) POWER OVER YOUR LIFE. WHAT A SHAME.

Ignoring and forgetting is what repeats history.

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. THE LEFT STILL THINKS "COMMUNISM LITE" WILL SOMEHOW WORK.

Some people 'forgot' what a burning cross meant, however, the people who remembered felt scared.

>>>>> LOTS OF THINGS ARE SCARY. WHY DON’T YOU SUPPORT BANNING SPIDERS AS ‘HATE INSECTS’ SINCE THEY SCARE A LOT OF PEOPLE?

Even if they 'understand' there was no maliance intent. If minorites started attacking white people, would that be a hate crime or the left rising against the right?

>>>> OH YES, THAT’S ANOTHER THING. EVER NOTICE ONLY WHITES COMMIT HATE CRIMES? NOT ONLY IS THE LAW ITSELF CORRUPT, IT’S ALREADY BEEN WARPED AGAINST WHITEY, JUST LIKE AFFIRMATIVE TRACTION AND 'THE HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT.'

Why does something have to be directly pointed at you to care? Don't you care for humanity? Can't you see past your privilege for one second and see minorites are being hurt? Are you that selfish? Hate exists in this world. Deal with it.

>>> I AM SELFISH ENOUGH TO ALLOW OTHERS TO BE FREE, IF IT MEANS I CAN BE FREE ALSO. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

>>> MOST SO-CALLED MINORITIES KNOW HOW GOOD THEY HAVE IT IN AMERICA. THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO WORK HARD AND MAKE SOMETHING OF THEMSELVES, DESPITE THE FACT NOT EVERYONE “LOVES” THEM.

>>> I NOTICE THE VIETNAMESE BOAT PEOPLE ARE NOW EXCELLING HERE AFTER JUST 2 GENERATIONS. BUT WHO IS LAGGING? THOSE THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO BE VICTIMS.

>>>> YOU HAVE CHOICES IN LIFE. IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE A VICTIM, WHO OBEYS AND RESPONDS ONLY TO WHAT OTHERS THINK OF YOU, THEN SORRY, I CAN’T DO NOTHIN’ FOR YA. BUT I’LL BE DAMNED IF YOU’RE GOING TO STOMP ON OTHERS’ FREEDOM OF THOUGHT AND EXPRESSION BECAUSE OF IT.

>>>> YOUR CONDESCENDING PITY OF “PEOPLE OF COLOR” AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO FEEL VICTIMIZED BY THE SYSTEM HURTS THEM FAR WORSE THAN A BURNING CROSS.

>>> P.S. OH, AND PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY PRIVILEGE, BECAUSE I HAVEN’T SEEN IT. THE RENT IS STILL DUE ON THE FIRST OF THE MONTH EVEN THOUGH I’M “WHITE.”

ENJOY LIFE. DRINK REPUBLITARIAN.
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by Al Saturday, Mar. 13, 2004 at 3:55 PM
mmmmmuscleman@yahoo.com 626-280-8787 2328 Atlantic Blvd. Monterey Park

I am a Chinese-American, and I am so sick of the racist bs already. I don't need anyone to help me to confront any racisl problem if I ever face one, I'll take care of it myself, after all, it's why I have my Mini-14 and 9mm, isn't it???
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Orwellian indeed

by Ish-Kabibble Sunday, Mar. 14, 2004 at 10:29 AM

Hurrah for decrying the notion of "hate crimes"...but unfortunately that stand is merely a launching pad for bilious drivel.

The notion of us liberating the dark-skinned blighters in Iraq...you're not serious, are you?

Since when did we give a shit about friendly regimes butchering their own? Didn't Saddam gas the Kurds back in the good ol' days when Reagan was boosting him as a counterweight to Iran? Didn't George H.W. and April Glaspie and Bob Dole seek to curry favor with him up to the very day of the invasion of Kuwait?

While you're busy trying to pierce the double standards of the militant left, perhaps you should look at your own.
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by KPC Tuesday, Mar. 16, 2004 at 3:04 PM

Meat Whistle: "I NOTICE WE IMPRISON OR EXECUTE PEOPLE WHO ATTACK POLICE AND THE PRESIDENT BUT WE DON’T TORTURE THEM OR DISH OUT ‘EXTRA’ PUNISHMENT. "

Wrong again...why is it those who know so little are usually the ones that shout the loudest.? There, in fact, ARE special penalties for crimes against the police and the president. Perhaps they will cover that in you next years civics class, sprog. Hope you "notice".

Meat Whistle: "LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, COUNSELOR. WHO IS MORE “EVIL”:.... A HIT MAN GOES ON TRIAL AND SAYS, A) “I KILLED THAT GUY FOR $10,000” OR B) “I KILLED THAT GUY FOR $10,000…AND BECAUSE HE’S A JEW.” I DON’T KNOW YOUR ANSWER, BUT ACCORDING TO LIBERAL HORSESHIT, THE GUY WHO SAID “B” IS SOMEHOW ‘MORE EVIL.’ WHAT HAPPY HORSESHIT. "

First, let me ask you a question; are you a complete and utter idiot or what? Nevermind, strike that....back to your rather dull point;
In the case you mentioned, "evil" has nothing to do with it. It is a matter of law. It is either against the law and the party is guitly or innocent of the crime, or it is not against the law so no crime was committed. In every capital criminal case, intent is determined, extenuating circumstances considered, the mental state of the accused reviewed as well as the possibility of rehabilitation or re-incarceration. It seems both reasonable and justifiable by past precedent to consider extenuating circumstances that may qualify the crime under a "hate crime" provision.

Meat Whistle: "I DON’T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HIS CASE EITHER WAY. IF HE URGED THE OVERTHROW OF THE GUMMINT, THEN HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED. BUT I’M SURE NO MATTER ** WHAT** HE DID, IT’S PERFECTLY OKAY, SINCE HE’S BLACK AND THE SYSTEM HATES BLACKS THEREFORE HE’S INNOCENT…OR SO *YOU* SAY. "

You don't know much about anything it seems, except lying...but...hey, you're Republican...so you gotta be a liar or they won't let you play in their club. There is nothing illegal in urging the overthrow of the government. It is the "violent" overthrow that will cause trouble. Go learn about the case and then respond....in CAP LOCK!

Meat Whistle: "YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO PUNISH OTHERS’ FREE SPEECH BECAUSE THEY “MADE” YOU FEEL AFRAID. THAT IS MY POINT.

In which case, you have no point. There is not law on the books that outlaws "free speech" in the name of hate crimes. None. Zip. Nada. Zilch. So why do you keep mentioning it? Why not address the points? Why do you keep raising straw men?

Why? Because without it you have nothing. Your arguments are a flaccid as your pre-pubescent dick.

A man kills a women. Would it be helpful to know if he killed her because he hated that women, or because he hates ALL women?

Don't bother to answer, you'll just embarrass yourself further.

Meat Whistle: "THAT’S ANOTHER THING. EVER NOTICE ONLY WHITES COMMIT HATE CRIMES? NOT ONLY IS THE LAW ITSELF CORRUPT, IT’S ALREADY BEEN WARPED AGAINST WHITEY, JUST LIKE AFFIRMATIVE TRACTION AND 'THE HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT.' "

Yes...the only racism we gotta worry about is racism against poor whitey. And considering how affirmative action was implemented in response to institutional racism, how has it been "warped" against whitey, who has NEVER been the victim of institutional racism?

Meat Whistle: "I NOTICE THE VIETNAMESE BOAT PEOPLE ARE NOW EXCELLING HERE AFTER JUST 2 GENERATIONS."

Those who speak in generalizations are usually idiots...

...so are you "usually" an idiot or "always" and idiot?


One question, dingleberry: Is racism AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS a problem in this country?

...don't worry about sounding stupid with your answer...our expectactions couldn't POSSIBLY get any lower...




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kpc

by slkdfgjk Tuesday, Mar. 16, 2004 at 3:24 PM

You tell him KPC. Damn, if there's one regular on this board who can almost put together words with more than two syllables, it's you.

Keep it up!

......fucking ass licker..........
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Another phony "hate" crime

by NAACP Thursday, Mar. 18, 2004 at 11:36 PM

Two people witnessed Professor Dunn vandalizing her own car.

Typical.

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Claremont professor suspected of staging hate crime

by SF Chronicle Friday, Mar. 19, 2004 at 10:48 AM

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(03-18) 10:08 PST CLAREMONT, Calif. (AP) --

A Claremont college professor who claimed she was targeted in a hate crime that provoked campus protests denied police allegations that she staged the vandalism.

"This is like a very big deal if they think I'm a suspect," Kerri F. Dunn, a visiting professor of psychology at Claremont McKenna College, told the Los Angeles Times. "I didn't want any of this from the beginning. This is so overshadowing the bigger problem on campus, which is that the administration has turned its head regularly on hate speech and hate crimes."

But police said two witnesses came forward with allegations that Dunn, whose car was vandalized and spray-painted with racial and sexist epithets, did it herself. Police said Dunn gave inconsistent statements during two interviews conducted jointly by the Claremont Police Department and the FBI.

Police were to forward their findings to the district attorney's office Thursday, said police Lt. Stan Van Horn. Dunn was not taken into custody.

The witnesses, Van Horn said, were of college age and friends of a student at Claremont McKenna College.

Claremont McKenna College will conduct its own investigation of Dunn, whose contract lasts through June, said college President Pamela Gann. The school's faculty was to convene Thursday to discuss the police department claims, she said.

The alleged hate crime last week was seen as the latest in a rash of recent hate incidents, including a burning of a cross used in an art project and the writing of racial slurs on a calendar.

It galvanized this close-knit college community known for its rigorous academics, with faculty canceling classes students holding a day of rallies that culminated in a large protest at Claremont McKenna College where Dunn spoke.

"This was a well-planned out act of terrorism," she told a crowd of some 2,500 student during the demonstration March 10.

Students and faculty were shocked by the new allegations.

"She basically insulted this whole school and embarrassed us all. She kind of tricked us," said Glen Kim, 21, said Thursday. "I don't know what to think. I can't explain why she did this."

Kim, a senior economics major at Claremont McKenna College, said he took part in several sit-ins and forums to discuss the hate crime last week.

"A lot of people who were at the rallies really supported the professor," Kim said. "When something like this happens, it really hurts the whole atmosphere of the college community."

©2004 Associated Press

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Welcome home, roosting chickens

by Ergo Friday, Mar. 19, 2004 at 11:03 AM

If it's any consolation, you all looked foolish BEFORE she tricked you.
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This is nuts!! LMAO!!!

by Barney Friday, Mar. 19, 2004 at 5:12 PM

Waht the hell is going on these days on Kollij campuses (or is it campi?)??
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