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Militant Picketing hits Vons

by a Friday, Jan. 16, 2004 at 2:16 AM

Union turns up the volume at National and Sepulveda Vons store in West LA A photo essay from the picket lines

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picket thugs

by shopper Friday, Jan. 16, 2004 at 10:49 AM

This is way the strike doesn not have community support. I am in northern CA where "informational" pickets have been showing up at Safeway. They are being ignored. Accosting shoppers in the parking lot is a really stupid move. Posting license plates of people you label "scabs" is more than stupid, it is potentially actionable. It more than borders on harrassment. This strike has been going on for four months, and I can guarantee that the stores can easily outlast the strikers. The strikers have lost their health insurance because the contract has expired. The stores are now free to fire all the strikers and hire new people. How many people do you think will show up for jobs that pay what the stores are offering? Bit Labor thinks that there is all this solidarity out there, but there is not. Times are tough for entry level jobs. Standing there scanning things over a reader is hardly rough work, and the pay is more than adequate.
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they aren't looking for a raise

by more rational Saturday, Jan. 17, 2004 at 2:27 AM

They are trying to stem their losses. The original offer was going to set up another wage scale that would not pay for health care. (The widely reported $15 would only apply to current workers, not future workers.)

The strike has had a lot of community support, especially considering how long it's gone on. This easily has had more community support than the UPS strikes, which were the last really big strikes in the area. The typical strike has no community support at all. People in the community rarely ever hear about a strike.

The main problem with the Union is that they really go for the low-hanging fruit. Vast sectors are not organized at all; people don't grasp the value of collective bargaining, and have no sense of solidarity with these strikers. A union doesn't need to be some huge organization with a well paid president. It can be a small organization with minimal dues that gets together to set some work performance standards and sets wage scales. Once upon a time in America, there were a zillion organizations that called themselves "unions" like Credit Unions, Union of this and that. Today, everyone wants to start a business on the side and get some letterhead from Office Depot.

These strikers... they should probably not harrass the shoppers so much. They can just embarras them with kindness. If they were really militant, they would be shouting at the mangement and scabs, not the customers. This kind of picketing is nothing compared to the 1930s, when people would get into huge fights. Or even in the 70s, when the trucks would not be running -- the scabs would probably find their vehicles vandalized. It was a different time. In some European countries, the workers are allowed to put locks on the doors. That's a different place.

Today, they holler at customers, lose wages (and they *will* lose some wages), get scabbed even by the Teamsters, and get shoved around by the companies. It's sad, but it's what we are working with. Deal with it today, and work for a better tomorrow.
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Oh yes the good old days

by A victim Saturday, Jan. 17, 2004 at 7:54 AM

Yes it's refreshing to hear comments about how if this were the 30's it would really be violent. Here is a thought.... we just want to buy our groceries, we don't want to be harrassed by your union members. Go away please
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victimized by not being able to shop?

by more rational Monday, Jan. 19, 2004 at 11:46 AM

"help, I've been victimized by people who won't let me shop!"

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Tough it out, weakling.
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Why tough it out?

by a victim Tuesday, Jan. 20, 2004 at 7:47 AM

Why should I put up with any crap when I shop? "Tough it out?"? Screw you. As soon as you asshole go back to work I will shop at trader joes. I could not bear the though of funding your paycheck!
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by @ Tuesday, Jan. 20, 2004 at 9:13 PM

INCREASE THE PRESSURE!!! MASH THE PLACE UP!!!
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Typical American Workers

by Cal Wednesday, Jan. 21, 2004 at 11:51 AM

Arrogant, spoiled, selfish, stupid American workers are finally starting to get what they deserve....A SPANKING.

Like it or not, employers, the WORLD, is sick of the spoiled brat american, and its time for reckoning. Guess you useless brat commi Union workers is going to have to give up that fat pig SUV, big screen TV's, sports games, and actually work to have a life.

Unions are gangs and when you play in a gang you get back what you put forth. Enjoy your dirty little gang wars.


PS: I DARE one of you low life subhuman trash to assault me when I shop....I DAAAAARE you.

-Cal
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Wrong culprit

by Will Wednesday, Jan. 21, 2004 at 11:33 PM

"Like it or not, employers, the WORLD, is sick of the spoiled brat american, and its time for reckoning. Guess you useless brat commi Union workers is going to have to give up that fat pig SUV, big screen TV's, sports games, and actually work to have a life. "

How but some of those corrupt "business men" at the top taking a cut out of their check? The people at the bottom are suffering worse than ever, but its cool to the guys on top as long as they don't have 2 settle 4 ne thing less than their millions, the dude at the top of vons-pavillions isn't struggling, he'd rather make more doe & watch his employees struggle on $6.75 an hour and now have 2 cut out of that 2 cover health care. Please, stop being such a hypocrit, if your job was trying to screw you out of something you'd feel the exact same way. What I'm sick & tired of as the people of this country thinking of no one but themselves. As long as you can shop you'd could care less how the supermarket employees are struggling to make it for every month.
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Which Gang You Want To Be On?

by Cal Thursday, Jan. 22, 2004 at 7:19 AM

Will, appreciate your comments, your sincere and with good points, but only on the surface. I use to believe the same way until I met the thugs at the bottom.

Now it is clear that the people at the top (Von's owners for example) and at the bottom (Union workers) are similar in some cases only. With the exception that the gang at the bottom has no class, pays little taxes to the community, employs no one, and is far more selfish. No one is going to start a business, risk family money or own investment, work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for years, exhibit intelligence and business savvy, so they can make the same as a low life Union worker.

The market will set rates. Von's workers have no special talent, therefore it is a job for the teens and 20-something crowd starting with their first jobs. Or perhaps the slightly older crowd who want to make extra money.

Vons is not responsible for the dysfunctional masses who divorce, get knocked up, are illegal, etc, and thus need a entry level job to pay the house bills as single parents and so on.

Instead of targetting Vons you people should go after the true greed - the multi-national companies who are outsourcing huge number of jobs overseas. Even though I do not blame them, I've seen the "new" Amercia, at least you would have a better point to fight over.
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Write to Safeway

by c71898 Thursday, Jan. 22, 2004 at 11:42 AM

Safeway Inc.,
4410 Rosewood Drive
Pleasanton, CA 94588

Tell them you support the workers. They need to hear that we will continue to stay away from the stores.


Support your fellow American workers! It could be you next...
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Write to Safeway !!!!

by Cal Thursday, Jan. 22, 2004 at 12:05 PM

I AGREE TOTALY !!!!!!!!

Write Safeway and Vons and tell them you fully support the workers. THE REPLACEMENT WORKERS. Tell them the new workers are more respectful, talkative, appreciative, work harder, and overall more positive.

!!! WRITE TODAY !!!


Example: The old Vons check out laby at my store was ugly - yet would try to pick up all the thug customers, most of whom looked like a gang members. So I had to sit there while this ugly old blonde got jigidy with the Broz at least 4 times over a few months. The other check out people were just grumpy. Made shopping a downer. Now the new people are clean, no nastyz action gowen on, and nice. I LIKE SHOPPING AT VONS NOW.

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a better point to fight over

by x Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2004 at 12:18 PM

"Instead of targetting Vons you people should go after the true greed - the multi-national companies who are outsourcing huge number of jobs overseas. Even though I do not blame them, I've seen the "new" Amercia, at least you would have a better point to fight over."

Do you consider Vons a small business? You chump - Vons would put your pathetic family-owned corner store out of business in a second. Vons, Kroger and the rest are big corporations. The small business you so highly applaud only exists in the dark mildewy cracks of capitalism where efficient corporations dont want to do business. The working class shows "intelligence and business savvy" by not falling into the fairytale myth of the merits of small business. Idealistic idiots go into small business.
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ChumpX

by Cal Friday, Jan. 30, 2004 at 12:35 PM

With that indignant attitude, your going to be the chump, chump. Job is not a right, treat it like one and the job will float over to a person/country who doesnt think that way.
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THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE STUPID. GAME OVER

by Cal Friday, Mar. 26, 2004 at 10:53 PM

http://www.media.mit.edu/events/movies/video.php?id=rfidprivacy-2003-11-15-1#

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