Maybe you should pick up a copy of "How the Irish Became White" or read the work of Ronald Takaki, which shows how the legacy of racial preferential treatment has a long history in this country, and undoubtably some Latinos are not immune to it. But we're talking about L.A. here, where Latinos are becoming the majority and
may have alot of spite based on a history of state and Anglo oppression, from the very founding of Calfornia to
the Zoot Suit Riots of 1943, to Operation Wetback, to the anti-immigrant hysteria of the 1990s and present.

And please, talking about Rafael Perez, a Black-Mexican (the last Mexican governor of California, Pio Pico Rivera was also a Black-Mexican), come on, we're talking about an individual who is a part of a system of
oppression (i.e. the LAPD), not a race of oppression. If these incidents happened in Simi Valley or
Orange County, or even the aforementioned Whitey-er, I mean Whittier, do you think they would have the
same outcome. Would they have the same outcome up north in Ukiah, Idaho, Montana, the South,
Kansas, etc. So please, do not judge based on these incidents.

Yes, there is racism in the Latino community based on the internalized class and race issues that stem
all the way from colonization. Before the arrival of the Spaniards, the indigenous people of this land had
no concept of race, the Spanish and Anglo Saxons introduced it. Yes, now in Mexico there is a problem
in that many are in denial that racism exists in the country at all, when it does, especially toward Native
People and Mexicans of African descent, but this gets obscured by the de facto classism that is perpetuated
by Mexico's upper class and the government.

I never said Latinos couldn't be racist, just that to conceive of a "hispanic KKK" is ridiculous. Mecha never
burned crosses in people's front yards, burned churchs, hung people from trees (the KKK and romanticized
Texas Rangers did that), nor burned entire communities in Oklahoma (and that wasn't even the KKK, just
pseudo-Christian, law-abiding white people).

As for invoking Marx, please, as a red man in skin color I am sympathetic to such ideologies, but they
cannot transcend racism in a white supremacist society. Find out about how people of Arab and African
descent are treated in Russia. Castro's Cuba also had problems with racist preferential treatment for
light-skinned Cubanos in its infancy, but has transcended that because they have transcended communism
(for the good or bad, you decide).

I'm all for doing away with racism amongst Latinos and whites, but I can't do it alone until European Americans, including the white liberals on the IMC and at KPFK (where a very prominent program
director told me about how even some white liberals have serious anti-immigrant issues).

And to clarify the majority-minority perspective I mentioned, even if Latinos do become the largest ethnic
group it won't really mean anything if they don't have political power. And they don't when people like
Gonzalez et. al that I mentioned don't do anything for the community except suck up to bush and
send Latinos to war.

Sorry to make you conscious of your white privilege, or how you feel you are losing it.

Peace.

Sorry to make you concious of your stupidity. But if Whites can only expect violence and cruelty once hispanics become a majority in LA then hispanics are far more racist and treacherous than whites have ever been.

The US a white majority country does more to feed, rescue, and care for hispanics in the entire world than any other nation. Even on a per capita basis.

Where as once Hispanics gain even majority status in a US city they immediately use their power to deny whites and asians their civil rights.

You say you are red I am guessing you are realy pink as in a marxist shade of pink. You certainly think like one jack ass.

Sorry to make you concious of your stupidity. But if Whites can only expect violence and cruelty once hispanics become a majority in LA then hispanics are far more racist and treacherous than whites have ever been.

The US a white majority country does more to feed, rescue, and care for hispanics in the entire world than any other nation. Even on a per capita basis.

Where as once Hispanics gain even majority status in a US city they immediately use their power to deny whites and asians their civil rights.

You say you are red I am guessing you are realy pink as in a marxist shade of pink. You certainly think like one jackass.

Violent Mexican gangs including mecha have killed more people than all the silly klansmen in the world. I lived in Mexico I know what goes on along the highways in Mexico. If you are white lookout brother I hate it but it is true. Nobody would bother to burn a cross. Just bushwhack the grengo and if you think he is going to know your face he is a dead grengo. The Federales are one of the biggest and most violent Mexican hate groups next to the Mexican Army. The Mexican Army prides it self on how many Native Americans (Mexico is part of the Americas too) it has killed like the US cavalry. But the killing of Indians in Mexico continued into the 1930's this is no joke.

I hate to think that now that we have become almost a majority in LA that the first thing we would do with our political power and racial clout is deny whites and asians their civil rights. I was personaly defended for free along with my family by a white civil rights lawyer 20 years ago. So were many Mexicans why would you want our first official act to be to attack whites.

We are all just people trying to survive stop looking at skin color so much my self proclaimed red man.

ym is just expressing a paranoid white fantasy (nightmare) that isn't going to happen. When I think "hispanic politician" I think of Loretta Sanchez.

What caucasian couldn't like her?

Also, Apache brings up the white liberals at IMC and KPFK, and I think the criticism is valid, but only to a point. Structurally, there's nothing preventing IMCs from forming in other parts of Los Angeles, with different people and a different focus.

IMC has been predominantly white, but has always had a good balance of women. Lately, with attrition, the number of white men has increased in proportion, and POCs, who were present and doing stuff, have dwindled.

The structure of "white privilege" in IMC (and KPFK) is, I believe, mostly a side effect of how people think of what is and what is not newsworthy. On the Left, (as on the Right), an elite strata of (white) professional intellectuals determine what matters. All too often, I think the IMC is driven by these "big" issues rather than encouraging the production of media to benefit actions at the community level.

There's a flipside to white privilege, and that's people of color acquiescing to it. This happens every time a POC silences themselves, because POCs, especially women, are used to being treated second-class, and a lot of POCs have low self-esteem, especially about their work and their power. It happens all the time, when POCs complain about the media, but feel powerless to do anything about it, and *don't* do anything about it.

Anyway, that's all for now. I can't finish this up.