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by peace dove
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 6:36 PM
An effigy of Resident George W. Bush is pulled down by the people during a massive protest in Trafalgar Square, London. The U.K. Mirror reports up to 200,000 people joined the anti-war demonstration. The protestors were mimicking the pulling down of a Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad by invading U.S. troops during the war to occupy Iraq (Photo by David Bebber/Reuters)
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A massive demonstration against George Bush drew up to 200,000 marchers on the streets of London today. Organisers of the march, ending in a rally at Trafalgar Square, said the number was a record for any weekday protest in Britain.
With a huge police presence the Met reported no incidents of violence and the march passed off peacefully.
"This phenomenal response shows the depth of feeling of the British public towards this visit," said a spokesman for the Stop The War Coalition.
The march started near Euston Station and went past the House of Commons and Whitehall before finishing at Trafalgar Square. When the march passed Downing Street anti-war protesters booed and jeered at Bush and Blair inside number 10.
A huge papier mache statue of Bush was hauled down by protestors in Trafalgar Square in protest at the Iraq war.
Vietnam veteran Ron Kovic, on whose life the film Born on the Fourth of July was based, was the guest of honour. Other speakers at the rally included former leader of the SNP Alex Salmon and Labour MPs Jeremy Corbyn and Alice Mahon. Former Labour MP George Galloway spoke to the crowd and described the march as "unbelievable". He said: "This is the largest march on a midweek day that this country has ever seen - it is absolutely overwhelming.
"We're speaking for the majority of people in the world who want Bush out and who want Blair out."
"Tony Blair added insult to injury by bringing this ignorant, foolish and dangerous man to these shores and I think we are speaking for the majority of the country."
Caroline Lucas, of the Green Party told the crowd: "The eyes of the world are on Trafalgar Square today. We are making history."
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by counter
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 6:44 PM
The UK has 60 million residents. Only 200,000 showed up. That's only 0.003% of the population, or only 3 in a thousand.
If 12 million had showed up (20% of the population), that would have been mildly impressive. But only a relatively handful actually cared enough to even come out, further demonstrating that these people are the frindge and are not to be seriously considered. And for that reason, they won't be.
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by Meyer London
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 7:22 PM
How many would have showed up for a pro-Bush demonstration? Well, probably, the Marine Corps guards from the US embassy, some US sales representatives in London to get accounts of Pepsi Cola and Chesterfield cigarettes, the still living members of Margaret Thatcher's cabinet, various Mossad agents, and Britney Spears if she was there for a perfomance.
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Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 7:26 PM
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by 3/1000ths
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 8:35 PM
That's not what we conservatives do. We don't demonstrate. That's strickly a left-wing thing, it's what you people do. So there's no comparison there.
Instead of demonstrating, we make things happen. Clinton is doing stupid stuff, we eliminate the problem and undermine his ability to do anything. That's not something that liberals are even capable of considering and planning, much less implementing. You people, you carry signs and dress up in funny looking costumes and march and dance around, break a few windows, wear a bandana or two on your face, and then call it a victory. Did you actually change anything? No. Same result these idiots in London and Miami can expect, nothing. You dolts haven't a clue.
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by numbers
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 8:56 PM
200,000 is proving to, once again, be enthusiastic activist overkill. Best estimates I've seen come in around 70,000 to 100,000.
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by JW
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 9:17 PM
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by Sisyphus
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 9:36 PM
For the record, 3/1000 is .3%, not .003%.
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by Meyer London
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 9:52 PM
You got the numbers mixed up; 50,000 is the number of security people Bush brought with him after the meanie Queen wouldn't let him strengthen the walls of Buckingham Palace.
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by Joe Stalwart
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 9:55 PM
No he didn't. Read the article moron!
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by teacher
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:00 PM
>For the record, 3/1000 is .3%, not .003%.
0.3 is 3/10ths.
0.003 is 3/1000ths.
Follow:
decimal point, tenths place, hundreths place, thousandths place.
Got it??
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by pupil
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:05 PM
Yes, but you have to multiply by 100 to get %.
three-thousands of the population may have showed up at the protest.
But it was three-tenths of one percent of the population.
Got it??
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by pupil become teacher
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:07 PM
200,000 / 60,000,000 X 100% = 0.333%
not 0.003%
You're wrong.
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by numbers
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:10 PM
it was 0.083% cause only 5ok loony leftist limeys showed up.
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by activist community
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:17 PM
That's 50 THOUSAND people who completely and totally despise George W. Bush and the American way of life! That is 50 THOUSAND people that cheered when the World Trade Center collapsed and that is 50 THOUSAND people that think America got what it deserved on 9-11. We are THOUSANDS strong today, and we will be MILLIONS strong tomorrow! If we continue to grow at this EXPONENTIAL RATE it will be only a few short months until ALL SIX BILLION people on this planet hate George W. Bush as much as we. His days will then be numbered. Let's sit around and talk about it.
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by Meyer London
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:19 PM
OK, Mr. Humorless - he only brought 40.000 guards after Blair lied to him and said that 10,000 Canadian Mounties would be there to help protect him from those awful teenaged girls demonstrating in the streets.
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by Joe Stalwart
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:27 PM
No he didn't. I challenge you to prove that obvious lie.
No wonder leftist are so insignificant. They're all compulsive liars.
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by The Mad Counter
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:31 PM
Come on. It is true that Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and some of their followers seemed kind of happy that lots of people got killed (most of them probably big city wiseacres who don't believe in the story of Noah's Ark) in that awful, sinful New York City. But they really didn't cheer, at least in public, and I don't think that there were 50,000 of them.
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by Meyer London
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:39 PM
Ok, ok. Bush only brought 39,800. The other 200 went AWOL in the states after they learned that they were being shipped to Baghdad to ride around in humvees right after Bush's London visit.
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by Joe Stalwart
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 10:45 PM
Meyer London, you sir are a reprehensible prevaricator, and nothing more. You manufacture your information as if you worked for the NY or LA Times.
In short, you should change your name to Ananias.
Liar.
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by Blue key
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 11:16 PM
The full extent of the low regard Britons have for George Bush revealed in a Saturday poll.
The US President was branded a threat to world peace by a clear majority, 60%, of those questioned by YouGov.
MOST BRITONS CONSIDER BUSH STUPID - 37% or INCOHERENT - 33%
More than one in three, 37%, said Mr Bush was "stupid" while 33% called him "incoherent".
VERY FEW HAVE A POSITIVE IMPRESSION
Only a minority saw positive characteristics in Mr Bush, with just 7% regarding him as a good world leader, 6% as articulate and 10% as intelligent.
MOST AGREE WITH ANTI-WAR PROTESTS
There was sympathy with anti-war campaigners who plan a series of protests to mark the visit with a majority of 53% to 41% supporting the demonstrations.
The antipathy toward Mr Bush is matched by a gloomy view of Iraq.
A majority said Britain and America were wrong to go to war with Iraq
45% to 43% in April voters were in favour of the war by 66% to 29%.
73%, expect the security situation to get worse while only 15% believed that things would get better in Iraq with just 18% saying the country's future would be as a peaceful democracy. An overwhelming 70% thought there was little hope for the people of Iraq and that it would be a permanently unstable country.
There was little faith in the President's ability to handle the continuing problems in Iraq.
24%, had confidence in Mr Bush on Iraq, while 74% did not.
Prime Minister Tony Blair fares only slightly better:
38% express confidence 59% do not.
If anyone had any doubt how far the current administration had fallen in the esteem of the World this poll should erase all doubt. Britain is America's closest friend and supporter in the World. If the British hold Bush in this low esteem you can bet the view in the rest of the World is worse.
Bush needs to go and he needs to go now.
YouGov surveyed a representative sample of 1,934 adults, online, on Thursday and Friday, November 13-14.
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by DJ
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 11:19 PM
Why would a percentage be computed using the population of England? Using the population of London would be more practical. London has approximately 7 million people.
100,000 / 7 Million = 1.5% (approx)
To me this is pretty impressive, considering how many people probably couldn't make it due to having to go to work or school, or other reasons. Of course warmongers aren't impressed...
The deeper disturbance is this: If this many people are upset in England... then imagine how many people are upset in other countries. England is supposed to be our strongest ally.
DJ
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by Meyer London
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003 at 11:35 PM
Yes, but the Israelis are supporting Bush. So are the Czechs. That's most of the world right there, isn't it?
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by #'s
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 1:32 AM
"Why would a percentage be computed using the population of England?"
Because the lie is that the British hate Bush, not London. Therefore, 0.3% or 3 out of every 1,000 ( if the 200K is to be believed). Not impressive at all considering how much we've been told that this issue is oh-so important to the British.
You people are not even enough to make a blimp on a radar screen. More people are interested in Jacko that what you idiots think, or even IF you idiots think. You will continue to be treated that way
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by principal
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 1:36 AM
>>Yes, but you have to multiply by 100 to get %.
three-thousands of the population may have showed up at the protest.
But it was three-tenths of one percent of the population.
Got it?? That's what he said. See:
>>0.3 is 3/10ths.
0.003 is 3/1000ths.
Follow:
decimal point, tenths place, hundreths place, thousandths place.
Got it?? 0.003 is 3/1000ths, same as 0.3%.
Pay attention!!
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by Ima Idiot
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 1:41 AM
Thank you, Blue key, for that fine bit of journalistic investigative reporting. Everything was so well documented and unquestionable in its integrity. With people like you on our side, we'll surely have these perpetrators behind bars in no time.
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by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 2:09 AM
You wingnuts are fuckin pathetic!
Thanks for the laugh, though...VERY EV.....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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by thanx
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 4:08 AM
You're the EV, and you're way behind your comrades. Better catch up or you'll be out of the running for the EV Grand Prize.
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by nonanarchist0651
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 11:59 AM
We're speaking for the majority of people in the world who want Bush out and who want Blair out."
What Georgie is neglecting to tell you is the majority he speaks of is a minority in the world.
But he'd sure like you to think he's speaking for the better part of six billion people.
Of course, he couldn't even speak for the people in his district...that's why he's a FORMER Labour MP.
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by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 7:05 PM
Look, FidoFuck...I already told you...EVERYBODY hates da shrub...
..god your fuckin' stupid....
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by almost
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 7:17 PM
"Everybody" apparantly includes people who don't really matter, otherwise they wouldn't hate Bush. People who hate Bush don't matter. If they want to marginalize themselves, let them.
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by Sunshine
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 7:21 PM
KPC can't even run his own life
Be damned if he'll run mine
Sunshine
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by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 7:28 PM
...I guess everybody don't matter......
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by no duh!
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 7:58 PM
How long did it take you to figure that one out, binky?
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by KPC
Saturday, Nov. 22, 2003 at 8:21 PM
...what, that Republican hates people?
...known it all along, dingleberry...
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by Barney
Sunday, Nov. 23, 2003 at 6:58 PM
See the entry for November 20th.
It's quite illuminating for all those idiots who marched on London streets calling for Saddam to left alone to continue his horrific rape of Iraq.
www.dear_raed.blogspot.com
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by Ben Johnston
Sunday, Nov. 23, 2003 at 8:05 PM
It's seems ridiculous to argue about maths and percent of national population. There were huge numbers demonstrating against Bush and hardly any flag-waving outside Buckingham Palace. When hundreds or even tens of thousands march against something, it's foolish to simply dismiss it.
And once again, we have to put up with suggestions that those who oppose Bush must support Sadam Hussien. And more totally inapproriate Communism analogies too. This idea of 'either agreeing with Bush or supporting terrorism' is something that the US government whipped-up and fed to Americans - please don't expect others who aren't subjected this to think on these terms.
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