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by Vayoel Moshe
Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 9:24 AM
The heretic Herzl wrote in his own abominable diary that increasing anti-Semitism would be of great help to his movement. The great rabbis of the generation were terrified of the horrific libel and slander undertaken by the Zionists that would ultimately result in hatred of the Jewish People.
Zionists Have Fomented Hatred Of Jews Translation of Sections of Vayoel Moshe Published in 1961 Jews Against Zionism 11-13-3 The Zionists have constantly fomented hatred of Jews around the world in order to strengthen their ideology of creating and maintaining their state, which is the most dangerous place in the world for the Jewish People. The entire goal of the Zionists in bringing Jews to the Holy Land has been to place the Jewish People under their control in order to uproot them from their Jewish faith. The Zionists have committed many terrible acts to accomplish this purpose. When the heretic Herzl invented his ideology of Zionism and a "Jewish" state, his supporters embarked on a huge campaign of libel and slander against the Jewish People before the other nations of the world so as to enhance anti-Jewish feelings and enable those nations to expel their Jewish citizens. The Zionists wrote articles about this, as did the newspapers of the day. The entire campaign was designed to coerce Jews into moving to the Holy Land to enable the Zionists to accomplish their nefarious goals. The heretic Herzl wrote in his own abominable diary that increasing anti-Semitism would be of great help to his movement. The great rabbis of the generation were terrified of the horrific libel and slander undertaken by the Zionists that would ultimately result in hatred of the Jewish People. They even stated that the fact that the Zionists embarked on their awful slander against the Jewish People before other nations would require a great miracle to prevent those nations from destroying the Jewish People as a result of the horrific slander and libel of the Zionists whose acts were like the penetration of sharp swords against the Jews. Unfortunately we did not merit such a miracle, and their actions bore fruit. We all know what occurred, and we have still not repented of the error, may G-d have mercy. These facts are widely known, and this is not the place to discuss them in detail ñ a separate book would be required to do so. I simply bring up the issue to point out how bad things have become for the Jewish People, how vulnerable we have become because of that ideology to transfer the entire Jewish People to the Holy Land. The Zionists have used events to blind the eyes and confuse people's minds into thinking that the establishment of their state in the Holy Land is some kind of worthy religious precept. The heretics and apostates want everyone to believe that the love of the Holy Land simply covers over all their sins. They constantly seek to dress up all the evil deeds they commit against the Jewish People spiritually and physically in the garment of the holiness of the Holy Land. This is how Jews from many countries such as Yemen, Morocco, Iraq and other lands of the Sephardic Jews, as well as numerous Ashkenazim who were G-d-fearing and faithful to Judaism were fooled into moving to the Holy Land, thinking they were fulfilling the greatest of religious precepts that outweighed the entirety of the Torah itself. Of course none of this would be practical or possible without sources of money, housing and employment. Sadly, supporters of Zionism made this possible; there are leaders who in various ways are aiding and abetting the Zionists. Even after they start to realize their evil and bitter fate in falling into the trap of the Zionists without anyone to rescue them, the poor Jewish immigrants would never have believed that this terrible enemy would await them at the gates of Jerusalem under the guise of living Jewishly in the Holy Land, and are blinded by it. The "religious" parties who are follow along with the Zionists magnify the so-called religious precept of living in the Holy Land under the Zionist regime in violation of the Jewish religion before the entire world in order to pander to the Zionists, thereby strengthening Satan to draw the Jewish People closer to Zionism. © 2002, 2003 True Torah Jews http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/quotes/vayoelmoshe2.htm#fomentedhatred
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by mymicz
Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 10:35 AM
But Herztyl himself was more secular than Jewish. Still I find it hard to believe everything you are saying. For one, migrants from the Soviet bloc, my family being one of them, moved to Israel mostly as a jumping off point to America. There was a deep connection with the land itself, something only defined in hokey spiritual terms. There was a hapiness of having a home, where everyone spoke your secret language. If one travels to Israel, one finds that the majority of Jews in Israel practice very little, but believe that they have a deja-vu feeling of inspiration from what Israel means to them. I know I cried when the plane touched down. When I returned for th first time in 10 years, the country looked like Miami, with new high rises forming all along the coast. I believe there is a clash of modern style with historical identity. Many would love to say that this drove us here, and they did this to us. But really, there are people in Israel who accept their own will, their own destiny, and not some G-d like divination. And I don't think you had to coax anyone to leave Europe in the state it was in after the war. Hertzyl was guilty of understanding that when a nation is hated and opressed, it is either broken or unified to survive. He understood the climate in Europe and his own birth post dates anti-semitism by 2000 or more years. It has always existed because the Jews were sometimes obstinantly different from those around them. It has always existed because Jews have often been in the position of Middle class, hated by serfs and barely tolerated by the royalty. To say Zionism began or made anti semitism flourish is a bit far fetched. To say Zionism flourished because of Anti-Semitism, you may be getting closer. What Hertzyl did was ride the wave. What Israel is today cannot be bad for the Jewish people, just one trip there would show you the enormous love they have for their prize plots. What is bad is the inability of Jews to strike a balance with their neighbors that will bring prosperity to both sides. Still, I feel a small change in (Sharon bye bye)government and some loosening of restrictions on average Palestinians, for instance, visitation and work passes guaranteed for those who can claim birthright status in Israel, might change things for the better. Anti-semitism is racism, it's not only against Jews, it's against differences and freedom. It has existed since civilization and will long after we all look alike. But I just can't imagine that Zionists, from what I know of their personal strugles as the first sixty families to come, had anything to do with making people be racist. That is a cop out for all racists. I cannot make you racist. I cannot sway public opinion that way of anyone but the stupidest and lowest degenerates. Those poeple, complacent in ignorance, still have to be held accountable. You cannot say, that Jew made me hate him just by walking around with his tallis. Your hate is your own.
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by more rational
Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 2:56 PM
Zionism is just a blip in Jewish history. Jewish culture, and anti-Jewish hate has existed for far longer, and the latest anti-Israel eruptions of hatred, especially from some Americans, just seems to be a recapitulation of the scapegoating and hatred that's been going on for years.
For a while, there were some pro-Israel folks who brought up the issue of anti-Semitism to justify the state of Israel, but, lately, I haven't heard it being used. Today, the justification is Palestinian terrorists; at least that's what people say publicly. I'm sure most people know it's about maintaining control of an oppressed population.
I, for one, abhor what the state of Israel is doing. It's fear turned into action, that's become oppression. Their apartheid policies, I think, are doomed to fail. For two cultures to exist in one place, forcibly separated, is abnormal and unnatural. It can only be maintained by promoting fear and hate. Regular people of conscience don't wish to live like that.
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by nonanarchist1833
Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 3:43 PM
"What causes the fear?"
That's the question you forgot to ask.
The answer is, "The stated goal of Hamas, Al Aqsa, various other terrorist groups and the Muslim governments in the area is the complete, total, and utter destruction of the state of Israel."
Sounds like Israel has reason to be afraid, don't you think?
Those pesky JOOOS just refuse to curl up and die for you, don't they?
The nerve of some people!
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by systemfailure
Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 3:48 PM
What did ya think of the Diane Sawyer interview of PFC Lynch? Looks like the govt . was caught lying again. Still a believer eric?
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by nonanarchist1848
Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 3:55 PM
Nope, didn't watch it.
I don't watch much TV.
You know, family, reading, checking daughter's homework...more important things than TV.
BTW, I'm not "eric".
Nice to see you're caught up in the common imc paranoid fantasy of thinking that all who disagree with you HAVE to be the same guy.
Maybe you've been watching too much TV...?
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by systemfailure
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 2:45 PM
yeah, i was doing some research for a paper and I had to get an opposing viewpoint--so I have been watching fox news.... I think your right though, that shit messed me up. The whole point of my above story was that PFC lynch said the govt. "completely fabricated the entire story". I guess if it was on the t.v. it was a lie. I guess 400+ american soldiers never died in iraq either.
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by libmedia
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 2:52 PM
Fox News is always a shock to people who derive their opinions from left-leaning idealoges and similar nonsense. The truth always hurts, and liberals need a big dose of hurt. Some may get shocked back into reality, and that's a good thing. Some will stay put, but they've become comfortable in left-wing lies and don't have the capacity to reason.
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by systemfailure
Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2003 at 5:09 AM
the left leaning the left leaning the left leaning HOW ABOUT THE PROTECTORS OF THE CONSTITUTION? are you that stupid? You think we want to destroy the usa? We are fighting for a free and democratic usa to be a bastion of peace for the world. You right wing scum only serve the temporary leaders at hand. Go read the Constitution (that thing that makes you American) see how gw violated article 6. or are you too dumb. Get a clue you anti-american fuck head. Your nothing more than a hitler follower
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by Adult Supervisor
Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2003 at 5:19 AM
I watched the Diane Sawyer interview, Failure, and Jessica did not say that the government fabricated the whole thing.
Geez, you lefties have active imaginations.
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by Really?
Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2003 at 5:19 AM
Tell me how? What exactly are you doing that could be considered "fighting for freedom"? I really want to know...
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by Lex
Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2003 at 5:23 AM
That's a polite way to put it.
When I'm in a good mood, I call it obfuscating. When I'm in a mirthful mood, I call it schizophrenia.
But normally, its just plain ordinary prevarication.
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by Adult Supervisor
Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2003 at 5:26 AM
You left wing loonies fighting for freedom???
Oh, I get it.
You're referring to freedom for the Guantanamo terrorists.
And you're referring to freedom for the murderer Wesley Cook (aka: Mumia).
And I presume you'll now want freedom for Saddam too.
GWB hasn't violated any article of the US Constitution. Here's Article VI.
Holding Saddam accountable for failure to comply with UN edicts is not violating anything.
Article VI
All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under
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