Liberty groups attack plan for EU health ID card
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels
(Filed: 21/10/2003)

The European Union took its first step yesterday towards the creation of an EU-wide health identity card able to store a range of biometric and personal data on a microchip by 2008. Approved by Union ministers in Luxembourg, the plastic disk will slide into the credit-card pouch of a wallet or purse.
The European Health Insurance Card is intended to end the bureaucratic misery of E111 forms currently used by travellers who fall ill in other EU countries. Eventually it will replace a plethora of other complex forms needed for longer stays.
But civil liberties groups said it was the start of a scheme for a harmonised data chip that would quickly evolve into an EU "identity card" containing intrusive information off all kinds that could be read by a computer.
During the first phase from June 1 next year, each country will be able to choose whether to include photographs, fingerprints and biometric data, such as eye measurements, on the "national" side of the card. Britain is opting for a minimalist version.
The European Commission said yesterday that the final phase in 2008 would add a "smart chip" containing a range of data, including health files and records of treatment received. "The ultimate objective is to have an electronic chip on the card, as the technology improves," said a spokesman.
Tony Bunyan, the head of Statewatch, said it was part of a disturbing Union-wide erosion of privacy since September 11 2001. "We all know where they're heading Liberty groups attack plan for EU health ID card
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels
(Filed: 21/10/2003)

The European Union took its first step yesterday towards the creation of an EU-wide health identity card able to store a range of biometric and personal data on a microchip by 2008. Approved by Union ministers in Luxembourg, the plastic disk will slide into the credit-card pouch of a wallet or purse.
The European Health Insurance Card is intended to end the bureaucratic misery of E111 forms currently used by travellers who fall ill in other EU countries. Eventually it will replace a plethora of other complex forms needed for longer stays.
But civil liberties groups said it was the start of a scheme for a harmonised data chip that would quickly evolve into an EU "identity card" containing intrusive information off all kinds that could be read by a computer.
During the first phase from June 1 next year, each country will be able to choose whether to include photographs, fingerprints and biometric data, such as eye measurements, on the "national" side of the card. Britain is opting for a minimalist version.
The European Commission said yesterday that the final phase in 2008 would add a "smart chip" containing a range of data, including health files and records of treatment received. "The ultimate objective is to have an electronic chip on the card, as the technology improves," said a spokesman.
Tony Bunyan, the head of Statewatch, said it was part of a disturbing Union-wide erosion of privacy since September 11 2001. "We all know where they're heading with this," he said. "They want a single card with all our data on one chip. It'll be a passport and driver's licence rolled into one with everything from our national insurance numbers, bank accounts, to health records."

I'm sorry I put the wrong producer down for the story. It comes from telegraph.co.uk. Thank you for understanding!

You are objecting to all of your personal and medical data being stored on a card you carry and can give or not give to whom you desire to know that information?

You think that is bad?... Wrong????

Your data is stored on your microchip that is on your card (I would prefer that chip be implanted under my skin, cause I tend to lose, misplace, forget cards...)

Oh I see, you prefer things as they are now. You want all your personal data to be stored in systems that can be accessed by anyone. Just by your name and address or SSN?

Well you allow all your personal stuff to reside in databases and paper records scattered all over and I will have mine in one place in a chip implanted in my left arm.

I need not EVER worry about identity theft, unless someone steals my arm as well.

Can we put a bomb in that microchip too?

Can we put a bomb in that microchip too?

FDR promised that the Social Security number would never be used for more than just collecting with Social Security. Now look they misuse it for almost everything, so can we trust them!!NOT!!!!!

Eventually they want to make a cashless society with all your money, credit, and other things on this microchip. Later, they want to implant it into your body. During W.W.II people were marked, homosexuals were marked with pink triangles, Jews with yellowstars, and so on and so forth.. You can be tracked right to the bedroom if it is programmed this way. In fact if you drive a 1993 car and up you can be traced with the Global Positioning satellite. Certain information is already being used against people when they fly. A person with high debts may be refused boarding. My nation was founded on freedom, and Europe is the leader of civil rights. So what is going on here? They have just ignored the Bill of Rights, which is supposed to give you privacy. So many abuses have been done with the information, and all our information should be ours and not the governments. Also, many of these microchips are being forced upon people, like in Iraq!

For more detailed information go to:

http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=342713&group=webcast

I honestly think it wouldn't be too bad if posts could be moderated. People who post shit about wanting a microchip under their skin just waste all our time.

"I honestly think it wouldn't be too bad if posts could be moderated. People who post shit about wanting a microchip under their skin just waste all our time."

I honestly think you're NAIVE.

Electronic Harassment
http://www.bugsweeps.com/info/electronic_harassment.html

Implants are without a doubt the most invasive form of harassment. Electronic implants consist of transmitters, ESF generators, micro-neurophonic transceivers, tracking devices and other micro sized devices designed to cause harassment by tracking or controlling movement and thought. The most common implant was designed many years ago and is still used to this day. It consists of a unit that is powered by bodily fluids and is capable of transmitting voice signals, high voltage pulses, emitting a small tracking beacon signal, or other unspecified uses (mind control).

Millions may be carrying microchips in their bodies worldwide. The Safe Medical Devices Act, which became a law in 1990, requires USA manufacturers of implants and medical devices, to adopt a method for identifying and tracking their products permanently implanted in humans, and to keep track of the recipients, in case malfunctions arise. Breast implants, pacemakers, replacement heart valves and prosthetic devices implanted in millions worldwide are all to be tracked. And one of the methods used to track these devices is implanting microchips which store data about the manufacturer, the surgeon, the date of implant, etc.

Photo>Newest version of a biochip implant. For more information about this chip go to
http://www.nasatech.com/Briefs//May99/ARC14280.html

“I honestly think it wouldn't be too bad if posts could be moderated. People who post shit about wanting a microchip under their skin just waste all our time."

Sorry…
I just understand wrong.
I have the same think.
my apologize.
Sincerely.

Actually, that would be a good ides. A bomb with a tracking and listening device would be a better idea.

Let's say, for instance, someone that is a know activist with militant ideas and a following is abducted by unknown entity's and one of these devices is placed in their bodies. He goes to a meeting and his discussions and plans could be heard. When the time comes where he is surrounded by by like-minded leftist trash, push a button, BAMMO! You take him out and his "generals". No big loss.

If this isn't already in place and being used, it needs to be developed.

?ifftw

People like jjj have been conditioned to trust, and believe government and media is looking out for you. If this is so why do they allow so many people to starve and be killed in war. JJJ has ran down the post, but offers no intelligent argument. To my knowledge LA does have moderators as I have posted stories that never make it! You see, everyone has their idea of what is right, and not all people want to accept this marking. The lady who they want to put to death in Florida is in that state from a botched medical procedure!!! Everybody wants to control the INDEPENDENT media board, but it says INDEPENDENT, meaning there is no label. You know its a relief from the same old posts. Not that its a bad thing, but its like its just a cult or something without participation of the rest of the world. The poster is obviously a Christian who thinks this device may be the mark they talk about in Revelations 13, where no one will be able to buy or sell without it. I can not believe so many people falling for this, where just ten years ago they would have never gotten away with this. They will be able to do so many abuses with this which may accompany the present abuses. Most articles give it positive spin, because these companies make millions with government contracts and with the stocks. Orders from the Federal Government in September Valued at $17 million to Applied Digitals Solutions a subsidiary Government Telecommunications, Inc. They sound like an Orwell nightmare to me. It will be the perfect monitoring device to label people. They tell us its wrong to label people, so why are they doing this? Oh, I see, its going to save us from the terrorists! Older woman are getting denied breast cancer operations, because of their age being another civil rights abuse.

OM Tat Sat. the supreme pesronality of Godhead is perfect and complete. all emenations are complete whole units, and yet there is a perfect balance. that balance is lord Sri Krishna. so the demons thinking they are so smart, create computer chips and so forth. what is their reward? hellish punishment!. so, just be your self. live as what you are. a spirit soul. they cannot harm the soul. by getting together with those who are close to the cause of all causes, the effect is greatest in the world. email me if you lke to say hi. blissboy_108@yahoo.com peace!