Working on this new server in php7...
imc indymedia

Los Angeles Indymedia : Activist News

white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Calendar Publish RSS
Features
latest news
best of news
syndication
commentary


KILLRADIO

VozMob

ABCF LA

A-Infos Radio

Indymedia On Air

Dope-X-Resistance-LA List

LAAMN List




IMC Network:

Original Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol brussels bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia london madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice northern england norway oost-vlaanderen paris/Île-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech

Surviving Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: canada: quebec east asia: japan europe: athens barcelona belgium bristol brussels cyprus germany grenoble ireland istanbul lille linksunten nantes netherlands norway portugal united kingdom latin america: argentina cmi brasil rosario oceania: aotearoa united states: austin big muddy binghamton boston chicago columbus la michigan nyc portland rochester saint louis san diego san francisco bay area santa cruz, ca tennessee urbana-champaign worcester west asia: palestine process: fbi/legal updates process & imc docs projects: radio satellite tv
printable version - js reader version - view hidden posts - tags and related articles


View article without comments

Post Office Wants To ID All Mail Senders

by Liberty Tree Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2003 at 10:42 AM

Another sign of creeping fascism/totalitarianism. "We just need to know who is sending this - it's for your own good. Now shut up and show me your State Approved I.D. Papers."

Post Office Wants To ID All Mail Senders
Ken Adachi
© 2003 Educate-Yourself
The Freedom of Knowledge, The Power of Thought
10-28-3

Editor's Note: I've already had a first hand experience with this latest dictum from Big Brother Bush and his Illuminati pals. We have a post office distribution center in Santa Ana, California which allows you to send out mail up to10PM in the evening. You can't get your package weighed and stamped by a counter person, but they have stamp machines there which vend stamps. I've been going there to send packages in the evening for the past four years or so. About two months ago, I was told by one particularly obedient postal worker that anyone attempting to send packages with just stamps must first show ID before they will accept the package. I asked who said that and he said that some inspector from the FAA came there and laid this requirement on them (911 terrorists, don't you know). I asked him since when did the FAA have the authority to dictate policy to the US Postal Service-and more importantly, to US citizens. He didn't have an answer other than to say that the FAA controls the planes that fly the packages and they said that packages with stamps require an ID from the sender. I told him I wasn't going to show him any ID or give up any other constitutional liberty because some nameless federal bureaucrat said I had to and I left.
 
Since then, I've been content to send my packages during normal daytime hours, but now I see they are pulling the net tighter-as they always do. The process is always the same: a slow, steady erosion of liberties, step-by-step, so no one gets too excited or angry enough to organize themselves into an effective opposition. They start with the commercial bulk senders first knowing they are the least likely group to rebel. They gradually work their way towards the ordinary citizen, claiming that it's been policy for blah blah months with all the commercial postal mailers, etc. You're suppose to accept the logic that since commercial people have been subjected to this fascist control scheme for a few months, then it's OK (or it's expected) for you to knuckle under too. That's the nature of passive acquiescence to tyranny. It's easier and far less stressful to just cave in and show your ID than to take a stand and fight them-and that's what they're depending on. They always come out of the box saying that you 'must' comply with their fascist dictums, but when enough citizens refuse to comply-as was
 
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/smallpoxvaccineplandeceased16oct03.shtml
the recent case with the smallpox vaccine dictum-they back down. And they will back down from this dictum if enough people refuse to comply. The heart of these tyrannical control manuevers lay in the 'authority' granted for Fatherland Security by The Traitor's Act passed in October 2001 by our Congressional Cowards. The head of the dragon is the Traitor's Act-
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/repealTraitorsAct24oct03.shtml
which must be repealed if you are harboring any forlorn hopes of America remaining the Land of the Free...Ken Adachi
 
 
Stamps Are Next In War On Terrorism
By Audrey Hudson
The Washington Times
10-27-3
 
Sending an anonymous love letter or an angry note to your congressman? The U.S. Postal Service will soon know who you are. Beginning with bulk or commercial mail, the Postal Service will require "enhanced sender identification" for all discount-rate mailings, according to the notice published in the Oct. 21 Federal Register. The purpose of identifying senders is to provide a more efficient tracking system, but more importantly, to "facilitate investigations into the origin of suspicious mail." The Postal Service began to look into updating mailing procedures after the anthrax scares in October 2001 when an unknown person or persons sent several U.S. senators and news organizations envelopes filled with the deadly toxin. Two post office workers died from handling envelopes laced with anthrax.
 
"This is a first step to make the mail more secure," said Joel Walker, customer service support analyst for the mailing-standards office. But what has privacy advocates concerned is a report by a presidential commission that recommends the post office develop technology to identify all individual senders, which is directly referenced in the Federal Register notice. The proposed regulations are open for public comment through Nov. 20 to the Postal Service. "The President's Commission on the United States Postal Service recently recommended the use of sender identification for every piece of mail," the Federal Register stated. "Requiring sender-identification for discount-rate mail is an initial step on the road to intelligent mail."
 
Also cited in the notice are two congressional committee recommendations urging the Postal Service to explore the concept of sender identification, including the "feasibility of using unique, traceable identifiers applied by the creator of the mailpiece." "We're not ready to go there yet, but we are trying to make an initial step to make all mail, including discount mail, easily identified as to who the sender is," Mr. Walker said. "Smart stamps" or personalized stamps with an embedded digital code would identify the sender, destination and class. In October 2001, a letter was sent to then-Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, South Dakota Democrat, from a bogus New Jersey address. In theory, smart stamps would allow authorities to better identify would-be assailants. "
 
The postal notice itself says this is the first step to identify all senders, so this is not a matter of paranoia, this is reality. "The post office is moving towards identification requirements for everyone," said Chris Hoofnagle, associate director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. Mr. Hoofnagle scoffed at the notion identification could prevent crimes such as the anthrax attacks on members of Congress and news media two years ago. "Anyone resourceful enough to obtain anthrax can get a stamp" without going through the new channels, Mr. Hoofnagle said. A Treasury Department report from the Mailing Industry Task Force also recommended that "the industry promote development of the 'intelligent' mail piece by collaborating with the Postal Service to implement standards and systems to make every mail piece "including packages" unique and trackable." "What happens if I buy stamps and you need one, is it legal for me to give it to you?"
 
Mr. Hoofnagle said. Ari Schwartz, associate director for the Center for Democracy and Technology, said intelligent mail can play an important role and improve the mail system. However, privacy issues must be seriously addressed, and moving forward with the rules on bulk mail could alleviate some concerns, he said. "There is a right to anonymity in the mail. If you look back in the history of this country, the mail has played an important role in free expression and political speech and anonymous mail has provided that," Mr. Schwartz said. Capitol Hill staffers dismissed the potential for abuse by politicians who might use the system to track anonymous critics. "A petty staff member, maybe, but I doubt a member of Congress would do that," said one Senate aide. Added a senior House staffer: "A politician getting even with someone? Nah, it just saves us the trouble of having to reply to the letter."
 
Forward courtesy of "Gale"
 
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/postofficeIDsenders27oct03.shtml
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


What's wrong with you people?

by nonanarchist Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 4:24 PM

What's the big deal? Show yer stinkin' ID and get it over with.

Face it: there are dangerous people who want to mail dangerous things. Anthrax letters, the Unabomber...have you forgotten?

You would dare put people in danger because of some ridiculous notion that you're going to the gulag if you don't show an ID at the post office?

Come on. Get indignant about something that matters.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


thank you comrade.

by big brother. Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 8:37 PM

We must always ensure that all citizens of the USA keep their papers on them at all times.
You are a good citizen and should be promoted due to your alliegence.
You are correct, they need to be monitored at all times, --great citizens of USA.
The terrorist threat is everywhere!
This will keep the USA in Power.
As your Head of Governent and Chief of Command, your 4th amendment rights will have to be suspended permanently.
We will protect you from all threats, as we are currently in danger at all times.
The USA has alway been at war with Southeast Asia.
Once the Powers that be have the citizens monitored, we will request that some loyal citizenry come to thier local police stations for re-training as "weapons-disposal officers".
You will be required to confiscate all weaponry from the citizens and destroy them as we deem necessary.
This 2nd amendment will also have to be suspended.
The State will protect you, so you will not need these weapons or this outdated amendment.
Nonanarchist, we look to you to support our policies with unhindered alliegence to the Order.
You must turn in those persons who you deem unloyal, or traitorous.
Friends, family, or any others you may suspect of subversion.
You will be greatly rewarded.
Your State commends your loyalty and actions.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


i feel stupid

by nonanarchist Friday, Oct. 31, 2003 at 1:09 PM

I am such an idiot--i dont even support the bill of rights.
i know i'm just an boot-licker.
i dont give a shit if they repeal the 4th amendment to the constitution...
cuz i dont support the constitution!
i was the kid that sat in the back of class and told the teacher when the other kids misbehaved.
They called me "pet" and "narc", but i didnt care then either because the teacher liked me better than them.
HA!!!
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


^

by nonanarchist Friday, Oct. 31, 2003 at 3:09 PM

Putz.

Were you born stupid, or did you have to work at it?

Just so you know, I swore to support and defend the Constitution...with my life, if necessary.

And that includes your right to be a total idiot.

Enjoy your rights that thousands have died to protect, and that millions have sworn to defend!
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


thank you big brother

by nonanarchist Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 12:59 AM

I will obey your commands big brother.
You have always looked out for me.
Yes, we should confiscate all the weaponry from civilians.
They dont need to protect themselves.
they are just afraid.
You big brother will take care of me.
Because i am a loyal sheep.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Anthrax letters

by have you fogotten? Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 9:22 AM

Don't talk about the origen of the anthrax, Fort Dietrick, Maryland.
U.S. Government grade terrorism.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


here's what big brother's got so far on "fresca/nonbrainonus"

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 9:40 AM

here's what big brot...
jerrys_neighborhood.jpg, image/jpeg, 499x478

66.20.127.75
adsl-20-127-75.chs.bellsouth.net

"jerry lawson" charleston south carolina


lawson@3n.net
jll3a@hotmail.com.



From: Virginia
Time: 1999-02-16 01:35:42
Comments: AMSC (AC) USN RET Aircrew in C-130 in VN from 1965-1969




http://www.milblog.blogspot.com/2002_09_01_milblog_archive.html


Eleven years during which Saddam's pushed the limits of the sanctions, blocked inspectors, starved his people for good photo ops, and built palaces. And has tried to get materials for nuclear and bio WMD.

So we should... wait further?

I find it puzzling.



A must see!

J.

posted by Jerry Lawson



Okay, what was this about there being no way for Saddam to get the materials for a nuke?

Way to go, Turks!

J.

posted by Jerry Lawson




Good heavens. Popup Spam for Saudi Arabia.

A while back, they tried a $5 million campaign to boost their image in the US. Then they fired their advertizing company, and found a new one - and I guess this is the result.

J.

posted by Jerry Lawson




J.

posted by Jerry Lawson



One is that we weren't targeted because our ME policies are unjust, but because we were the biggest, most attractive target around, and they HAD to target us. They used us like a kleenex after a good sneeze, and with as little thought to results.The other is that we were targeted because Radical Islam sees us as a fatal threat to their dreams of worldwide shari'a.

Which we are.

J.

posted by Jerry Lawson



lawson@3n.net
jll3a@hotmail.com.
jll3cj@hotmail.com

JLL3 - Game Profile

http://milblog.blogspot.com/


http://meatblog.blogspot.com/

this is where he talks about how fat he is


LAWSON JERRY CHESNEE, SC
OCT 1952

1. JERRY GLEN LAWSON 38382-079 54 White M 2/5/90 RELEASED
2. JERRY LEE LAWSON 01379-084 43 White M 9/16/01 RELEASED
3. JERRY WEN LAWSON 10605-064 47 White M 10/5/00 RELEASED


38382-079

LAWSON, PAUL MITCHELL
1955-11-05
DRAYTON, SC 29333

DEC 1946


BUFFALO
MYRTLE BEACH
ORANGEBURG
SUMMERVILLE
JONESVILLE
LEESVILLE
NINETY SIX
MOUNTVILLE
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Hey Hex

by fresca Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 9:58 AM

Not that it matters, but out of curiosity, I have a question for you.

First of all, it was not even two months ago that you were trying convince evryone of your "data" which PROVES that I (and others) were Ned Lyle, whoever the hell he actually is.

Earlier this week you were trying to again convince any who would listen that I was based in New England.

Now you've got me pegged as a Jerry Lawson in Charleston SC.

Here's the question.

I know you'll read anything I post so I know you've doubtlessly read countless posts by me regarding the LA strike, and the local stores I will and will not shop at because of it. The posts I've made about the fires out here and how to help.

Beyond the fact that NO ONES playing baseball back east in November.

So tell me...do you suspect I'm somehow in two places at once?
Or, are you simply an idiot who couldn't deduct who and where I am if I invited you over for coffee?
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


I've only started, I've been mostly doing charles

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 10:24 AM

> your "data" which PROVES that I (and others) were Ned Lyle, whoever the hell he actually is


no - I said ned posts as kobe's most of the time, but sometimes you were posting as kobe duke (a dozen times) and as kobe hq/sbm/etc a few times

according to the IP's...



> I was based in New England


I said eastern seaboard, south carolina is...


I didn't bother to remember or save it before, with this IP I have - you are within ISP service area distance of the ISP the IP that was given out resolves to, that's primaryly what pins you to that little bitty town with all the parks - Chesnee.

Not much more than a place where two highways cross..

I see your brother is a convict, and you have a relative who's a sex offender..


All those things are statements you pulled out of your ass, according to your writing style based on many variables, this "J" with the background *and now that IP too* is the same global IMC "J" which is the LGF "J" which directly points to your 3 blogs as JERRY LAWSON

the 3 blogs point to eachother, all say "J" and jerry lawson... this JERRY LAWSON says and writes exactly the same as you - has exactly the same attitudes and opinions (over 100 posts)

this point's BACK to LGF, back to jerry & "J", back to IMC's "J" and back to you...

Checks for JERRY LAWSON reveal the same area as well, with *baseball fields and parks* in your neighborhood

now this IP traces to the same area where this JERRY LAWSON is, this IP is claimed to be YOU - fresca the baseball player who's said he has fields in his neighborhood...


now the next step is to cross-check this IP to all the board IP's I collected of the 1,500 posts that had them


if this IP matches any in the list, it's a 4'th connection


"charles johnson" turns up a shitload of criminals and sex offenders, it's going to take me awhile to comb through them all but I'll know him by his picture ;

1. CHARLES JOHNSON 03150-079 55 White M 5/8/81 RELEASED
2. CHARLES JOHNSON 08070-097 43 White M UNKNOWN NOT IN BOP CUSTODY
3. CHARLES JOHNSON 35785-115 58 White M 4/15/94 RELEASED
4. CHARLES JOHNSON 09840-006 48 White M 3/20/81 RELEASED
5. CHARLES JOHNSON 87050-012 58 White M 5/23/97 RELEASED
6. CHARLES JOHNSON 21427-053 64 White M 5/22/81 RELEASED
7. CHARLES JOHNSON 30861-039 63 White M 6/16/2004 MCKEAN FCI
8. CHARLES ALBERT JOHNSON 40277-008 28 White M 3/21/01 RELEASED
9. CHARLES ALLEN JOHNSON 12034-077 42 White M 2/18/93 RELEASED
10. CHARLES ARTHUR JOHNSON 64384-080 37 White M 8/20/2008 TAFT CI
11. CHARLES AUBREY JOHNSON 03140-018 52 White M 12/31/90 RELEASED
12. CHARLES DAVID JOHNSON 15457-198 33 White M 10/18/88 RELEASED
13. CHARLES DAVID JOHNSON 22544-009 49 White M 4/07/2006 FORREST CITY FCI
14. CHARLES DAVID JOHNSON 00463-032 65 White M 2/10/81 RELEASED
15. CHARLES E JOHNSON 01893-424 34 White M UNKNOWN NOT IN BOP CUSTODY
16. CHARLES EDWARD JOHNSON 00264-033 57 White M 12/29/2003 ATLANTA USP
17. CHARLES EMIL JOHNSON 06150-039 65 White M 5/9/86 RELEASED
18. CHARLES EVERETT JOHNSON 02086-064 58 White M 10/3/80 RELEASED
19. CHARLES FRANKLIN JOHNSON 01846-032 51 White M 12/26/85 RELEASED
20. CHARLES FRED JOHNSON 10274-002 36 White M 3/5/03 RELEASED
21. CHARLES GLENN JOHNSON 03348-079 59 White M 10/22/82 RELEASED
22. CHARLES H JOHNSON 11952-083 76 White M 2/11/83 RELEASED
23. CHARLES JOSEPH JOHNSON 30352-177 29 White M UNKNOWN NOT IN BOP CUSTODY
24. CHARLES L JOHNSON 06072-068 52 White M 8/24/99 RELEASED
25. CHARLES L JOHNSON 03529-064 80 White M 4/20/84 RELEASED
26. CHARLES M JOHNSON 02041-017 37 White M 2/1/89 RELEASED
27. CHARLES M JOHNSON 04772-064 56 White M 5/17/85 RELEASED
28. CHARLES NEIL JOHNSON 19190-009 47 White M 2/10/95 RELEASED
29. CHARLES R JOHNSON 14005-058 34 White M 2/7/01 RELEASED
30. CHARLES RAYBURN JOHNSON 55842-065 63 White M 4/6/91 RELEASED
31. CHARLES RAYMOND JOHNSON 10853-018 67 White M 9/13/91 RELEASED
32. CHARLES S JOHNSON 00985-061 48 White M 8/26/85 RELEASED
33. CHARLES VERNON JOHNSON 18569-004 58 White M 4/30/93 RELEASED
34. CHARLES W JOHNSON 41995-066 61 White M 2/26/91 RELEASED
35. CHARLES W JOHNSON 51141-019 38 White M 2/28/03 RELEASED
36. CHARLES W JOHNSON 10957-045 57 White M 10/31/01 RELEASED
37. CHARLES WILLIAM JOHNSON 02136-032 57 White M 4/17/88 RELEASED


Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


LOl

by fresca Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 10:27 AM

This is getting good again.

I really should put this all in a book.

Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


By the way

by fresca Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 11:35 AM

By the way...
map.jpg, image/jpeg, 356x309

Here is where I play baseball, among other fields.

And, we were rained out today, due to the rain last night.

Put out alot of fires however.

Anyway, let me know where this is if you can tell.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Who killed Americans with ANTHRAX?

by U.S. ANTHRAX Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 11:38 AM

so this is now about fresca?
How sweet.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


It only took seven posts

by fresca Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 1:10 PM

Only seven posts for Hex to produce yet another perfect non sequitor and turn this thread into another example of his jackassine intellect.

Oh well.

Thanks Hex.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Typical Hex.

by nonanarchist Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 1:29 PM

Always has to turn every thread to himself.

Okay, I'll play; I'll talk about you, Hex.

You're an idiot.

You're disturbed.

You see one boogeyman where there are many, because you're too scared to contemplate there may be more than one.

Your "proof" is all supposition and wishful thinking.

In short, you're a total idiot.

There! Is that enough attention for you for the moment?
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Hex

by nonanarchist Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 3:18 PM

Just so's you know., I gave Charles of LGF a heads-up about your little cyberstalking hobby. Here's the message I sent him:

"Charles, whilst hanging out on la-imc to make fun of the LLL/anarchists there, I ran across this one guy who seems to have quite the obsession with LGF...and you. He's mentioned LGF and you several times, but now it looks like he's getting weird(er). His handle is "Hex anon w/encryption", and you can see the depth of his illness here: http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/10/91536_comment.php. Just so you know, I go by "nonanarchist" there.

Thought you'd like to know, if no one else has told you yet.

Daveman"

This should be interesting.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


not bad so far for only a few hours work

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 7:01 PM

> Only seven posts for Hex

no 2

this makes 3

all the rest are *our nervous chattering posts* - count 'em


and charles knows all about me, I'm the one who trashed his web hosting providers

I've already put him on notice that I'm actively digging dirt on him - twice

I have additional information on you

this IP turned up so far

24.130.5.30
66.20.127.75
66.51.195.184
66.76.52.218
66.85.18.180
66.101.192.86
66.168.122.84 cm-66-168-122-084.ash.nc.charter.com
(66.168.122.84 cm-66-168-122-084.ash.nc.charter.com is near you, same general
area, on the IP list for KOBE posts)

maybe your older IP...

looks like you switched from charter to bellsouth

the 24.130.5.30 puts you where you claim to be now, but it looks like kobe was posting as you (as kobe duke) with you sometimes posting as him..

or an old IP...


more evidence (these are all "J" as jerry lawson, where a jerry lawson with the same demographics lives at the IP that was released today and is said to be him too)


FOXNews.com

U.S. to Move Central Command HQ to Qatar

It's getting closer. They're based in Florida.

J.
Jerry Lawson


Let's see. 1 million barrels a day from Russia. Get 600,000 barrels a day from Iraq. And suddenly, SA doesn't have nearly as much money coming in.

Poor babies. They might have to put their Wahabbi exports on hold.


J.
Jerry Lawson

Went to the base, went car shopping.

I don't get sleepy until almost midnight or one.

Feeling pretty good today - despite some bad news at the base (relating to my 'career' in the Reserves, not overall military related). Life goes on...


never imagined when I wrote on this page in March about the plastic shredder used to kill in one of Saddam’s prisons that I would, some months later, read in a chillingly meticulous record book that one of the methods of execution was "mincing".

I had just finished a press conference in the still-shabby British Embassy in Baghdad, when a reporter from Fox TV told me


Read the whole thing, and ask yourself what sort of society or personality type outside Iraq...

would want to have kept the status quo.


Well, guess the old "good news, bad news" routine still works. Bad news is, the ME is about to destroy itself. Good news is, we won't have to depend on them for oil anyway...


(all signed)

J.
Jerry Lawson


this guy is an exact clone of you, has the exact same military background, all the same political befiefs, writes the same

is a LGF troll
is a IMC troll

all as "J"...

and this IP
(released to said to be YOU)
66.20.127.75 * adsl-20-127-75.chs.bellsouth.net
Chesnee, SC (in the charleston service area)

where jerry lawson lives, OCT 1952 and he's 51 years old, he mentioned being retired...

(over 100 posts, all signed)
J.
Jerry Lawson

to *LGF* - (blog URLs)

lawson@3n.net
jll3a@hotmail.com.
jll3cj@hotmail.com
JLL3 - Game Profile

e-mails

3 set's of IP links - this new IP pointing right at you (jerry lawson as J on LGF)...

AND TODAYS NEW IP IS SAID TO BE YOU

LGF is right in the middle - connected to both, the key you could say..

this new IP connects *both ends directly* - in parallel with the data I have

it's said to be you - and - it points right at the same jerry lawson I traced you to myself...

you're now trying to say there's 2 jerry lawsons in that service area and you're neither of them...

I checked all jerry lawsons, as federal prison inmates back to 1982 and as registered sex offenders in this area.. to see how many lawsons there are and if you happened to pop up.

" My brother has had his MCSE for about 6 yrs now, he just renewed it from 2k to xp, and he hasnt said anything like that. The MCSE is the biggest cert out there, I dont think they'd just drop it. Certs are overrated anyway. Some ppl are just good at passing tests, but when they get out into the real world, they dont know what they're doing. Big deal, that dumb kid passed some tests, experience is what counts. A college degree is 100 times better than an MCSE."


another possible lead, by backtraced IP's..


this new IP connects you directly - in parallel with - the data I have allready

this means in order for me to be wrong ;

there's 2 jerry lawsons in that area and you're not either

the person who posted this new IP today was not only wrong, but somehow figured out it goes to a jerry lawson in that area *when I had yet to post the specific data I have showing it myself*

like a criminal knowing the specifics of a crime scene...

if the police had this information you would be the *prime suspect*


Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


speaking of criminals

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 7:46 PM

LGF openly supports and is "friends" with the JDL - a terrorist group with a long FBI list of bombings

the line we keep getting here is "if you support the Palestinians you're a terrorist too", and "enabler", you "hate jews", the jews "blood is on your hands too"

(this is right out of their PR guide BTW)

But - they support and are friends with the JDL

and where's those Palestinian tanks using shells on israeli homes and cars ?

where's that Palestinian wall snaking through israel ?

LGF with charles hate mongering and "enabling" of the JDL leads to

1.) constant spam on IMC's by their super troll - jerry lawson
2.) Charles or another LGF troll pasting ADL and JDL propaganda on IMC's
3.) the ideas the Palestinians and Muslims are "sub-human" (all those "death to all Muslims" posts)
4.) another troll - ned and all his kobe BS, he's a LGF troll too...
5.) accusing IMC patrons of being haters to drag them down to their level, the spin cycling back to the "support for Muslims means you're a terrorist too" line - trying to make it impossible to just want peace and not hate anyone, by declaring you a hater..


they fight for peace

we want to make peace for peace

so LGF troll's argument is since you won't fight for peace like them, you just wanting peace is war (terror)

and since our efforts for peace are war (terror, we support the "terrorist Palestinians" so we are terrorists too) that means we are targets for war (terror)

what they are saying is they want to kill all the Palestinians and Muslims "for peace"

and if we don't want to kill them too, us just wanting peace is terrorist and we are their enemies too, so they'll use terror on us (because we're on the Palestinians and Muslim's side)

this terror is being played out as negative actions on IMC since we're anonymous and they can't attack us directly (DeVoy would be an extreme example of what they can do to people)

so the distraction, trolling, spamming, disruption - this is all they've got to use

*they talk about doing these things on LGF and brag about it*

Charles and his LGF trolls have *called for IMC's destruction* many times and actively discuss ways to achieve this..

having jerry, scott and ned here, is one of the things they discussed doing to hurt IMC

that's why I posted the list of proxies - to lock the bastards out

I guess it's time for an updated list
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Impressive, Hex!

by nonanarchist Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 8:10 PM

But totally wrong!

Out of all the IPs you listed, one...ONLY ONE...has the same first digits as mine.

So, in order for you to be wrong, all you have to do is...speak.

You idiot. You are so completely off base here...all those hints I gave you a couple days ago, and this is the best you could do?

Hey, I just checked my Hotmail account. Charles replied to my note about you. He said, and I quote, "I guess the idiot hasn't noticed that the name "Charles Johnson" is one of the most common in America. He'll be busy for quite a while at this rate."

Hee hee! Charles Johnson called you an idiot!

Say, Hex...why haven't YOU emailed me? Unless, of course, that was your spam in my junkmail folder advertising gay porn. Is that what you do in your spare time, when you're not chasing wild geese through cyberspace?

C'mon, Hex...email me. My address is daveman_1@hotmail.com.

Let's dance, shall we?
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


playing musical troll handles

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 9:01 PM

Here's a 2 month trace of hidden posts on the global IMC ;

the keyword was "arab" as he's one of the few people that uses it much in the setting of unwanted troll..

there are the handles that popped up starting from oldest to most recent;

questioning your rank
Arab Logic
Indy Jew haters
IMC celebrates 13 deaths
IMC supports Hamas
IMC $upports Hama$ (about 50 times)
.
Charles (several times, either charles or jerry pasting)
kjh
Mohammed Atta
The Observer
ALLAH
H
stuicide
CRIMES
k
J (half dozen times)
resistance
PUNISH LEFTIES
YOU LEFTIES WILL BE PUNISHED
DAMTOUR
HUMAN
F
J
Charles
she would be executed./
j
Noticed Several Times
j
Mahmood
j
k
execution
FJ
HUMANITY
German Nazislams
j
h
Mahmood
J
J (several times)
good news press
J
Charles (half dozen times)
.
M
J

***possible null period 10-09-03 to 10-14-03 - cross-check

some really smart dude
kaboom
THE MOHAMMEDS
vast majority.
J (a dozen times)
Bono
Noos Channel
JOHN
mecca delente est
HE
JK
J (several times)
h
lk
hj
jh
jj
.l
The Hate Within Your Heart
Noos Channel
I don't ride with Arabs on airplanes
DEATH TO MUHAMMED
j
k
J
j
I don't ride with Arabs on airplanes
j
j
j
o
k
a
J
J
J
KM
j
j
k
KL
j
j
ME
.
j
K
J
Israel Shamir
j
j
---------------just stopped using "J" after I traced him on LA-IMC----
Stupid Arabic Men
I smoked pot but did not inhale
Abu Hudhaifah Kashif Mai Ali



this shows "I don't ride with Arabs on airplanes", "Stupid Arabic Men", all the "J"'s and other letters, jk, h, etc, and most likely the "Charles" posts are all jerry.

He posts exactly the same "J" with exactly the same comments about Muslims on LGF, where he links to 2 blogs and he posts as "J" on both of them with "posted by JERRY LAWSON" after each one.

This IP released today SAID TO BE YOU, points to where a JERRY LAWSON lives

66.20.127.75 * adsl-20-127-75.chs.bellsouth.net (charleston south carolina)

Chesnee, SC (in the charleston service area)

also links you to this jerry lawson who lives there, who's blogs link back to LGF..

so besides my trace through LGF, with the 2 blogs you posted yourself, that say jerry lawson, this new IP (SAID TO BE YOU) directly connects you to the exact same jerry lawson living in the area I traced you to as well...

I wonder who the mystery IP helper was today, and if any further word will come down the pike about jerry ?

the supplied IP connects him in parallel and across the IMC-LGF-2blogs connection I made...



Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Does anyone ever try to decipher hex anon's ramblings?

by just curious Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 9:27 PM

"Chesnee, SC (in the charleston service area)"

Not even close.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Wow, Hex! You know what this proves?

by nonanarchist Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 10:00 PM

It proves you're an idiot!

Seriously, though (not that you merit being serious with), you may have done a fine job tracing jerry whats-his-name across cyberspace, but:

What's that got to do with me?

You STILL HAVE NEVER tied ANY of this with ME.

And you STILL don't have my IP.

If you don't get better at this, you're gonna have to turn in your Mad Mazter Hakker Nose Ring (tm).

Dude, you'd have better luck with one of those "Find anyone in the US!" cd's that keep popping up.

'Cause you're batting .000 finding me, Skippy.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Hey, nonanarchist!

by Max Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 10:04 PM

Check your hotmail. Dropped you a little note.

I think when you read it, it might explain why old hex anon is throwing darts at the map.

It's late, and I'm turning in for the night.

Talk at ya later, brother.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Max

by nonanarchist Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 10:38 PM

Hee hee!

Yep, he's closing in on something, all right...more than likely a psychopharmacological cocktail.

I'm outta here.

Good night, la-imc. Pleasant dreams.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


whoops - I meant charlotte

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 10:39 PM

whoops - I meant cha...
charlotte-chesnee.jpg, image/jpeg, 499x501

RE: Chesnee, SC (in the charleston service area)

> Not even close.


you're right, that's charlotte, not charleston..

the other towns circled came up in searches on jerry lawson as possible relatives too


Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Awesome!!!!

by Rational Normal Person Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 10:59 PM

I just read this thread and it started by saying how bad and evil it was to have people who post packages using USPS to be identified...

Here we are now having posters on IMC being identified and tracked by Hex!!!!!

Scary!!!!!!
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


hey I've got a new hot mail on dart throwing

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 11:02 PM

hey I've got a new h...
jerrys_bulldozer_pancake_breakfast.jpg, image/jpeg, 311x283

or maybe slap jacking

Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


And the picture illustrates what?

by Rational Normal Person Sunday, Nov. 02, 2003 at 11:14 PM

Posting a picture of bacon and eggs is relevant to the USPS asking for ID in what way?

Hex, get a grip!
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


"relevant to a troll asking for a dance"

by Hex anon w/ encryption Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 12:21 AM

"relevant to a ...
nonbrainonis_thread_placeholder.jpg, image/jpeg, 297x374

tricky dicky is jerry's hero, but he needs his trollish demanding attention span anchored with gripping imagery

Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


another match and some other info

by Hex anon w/ encryption Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 4:26 AM

the older board posts with the IP's shows a match -

he was near the base

asheville - the IP he used on the boards I have IP's for -

66.168.122.84 * cm-66-168-122-084.ash.nc.charter.com
(this IP is tied to kobe duke, the demographics and writing style match)

now he's retired living in chesnee
66.20.127.75 * adsl-20-122-155.chs.bellsouth.net

the "J" posts trace back through here, the main IMC and LGF, to Jerry Lawson via his blogs, the older posts with IP's show asheville - near this area as well, this new IP shows chesnee, and *a jerry lawson lives in chesnee*, his age is correct for retirement, the jerry lawson blogs say all the same shit about the middle east as "nonanarchist"

the deal with these handles is jerry posts as all of them including fresca, but scott is usually fresca and he's the one who plays baseball in ca, jerry uses the "fresca" handle much of the time, then when you try to pin him to it, scott takes it back (starts posting with it again) that way he can claim "fresca" is in ca, plays baseball, etc

jerry is too old & fat to play baseball...

(he doesn't show any inclination towards such activities on all 3 blogs he has)

when ned said the kobe "members" were well hidden he meant his side-kick scott.. scott "jumps on the bomb" as required and posts as whoever is being exposed at the time

jerry and ned left evidence droppings everywhere that go back to themselves, in 3 or 4 parallel tracks each !

it looks like scott is the one that fills in for them both - the "quiet one" that I ID'ed by profile

there's very little direct evidence to support that but it explains much and makes sense (since he works with ned at compNLA)

if our mystery IP man dropped an IP on "Scottie" I could cross-check..

I did a search on him and couldn't find anything (he has no phone in his name, any property or criminal/sex offender record)

Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


postal, alright

by Sheepdog Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 11:34 AM

We have never had an answer to the question.
Who killed and threatened the public with Anthrax?
Bioweapons are similar to radiological weapons in the terror of
being invisible and unfelt until they exhibit their deadly effects.
A perfect weapon of mass terror.
Who dropped the first shoe?
And when does the second shoe drop by the same agency of
terror?
Welcome to hell.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Hex Anon is on the money this time.

by Long time observer. Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 8:20 PM

He has the Asheville "duke" alright. Did you see the other evidence as well. Duke is flying low now as he is wanted by treasury. But now it's time to go back further. This goes back to impeachment. These bastards have been roaming the internet and used to frequent the CNN and MSNBC message boards. When the plug was pulled on cnn/msnbc they scrambled to a series of forums, mostly on Voy. Voy has a board where kobe administers in stealth he is called ADMIN. And if you want to talk about the pot calling the kettle black. It is Bush or nothing. And he has no problem deleting an opposing opinion. This is the Asheville kobe. Solid bowel movement came along much later. And decieded to run the website from the store. Dipshit. He was also running a community business organization website he was a member of. See Beachsidepros.com See the shallowness Beachsidepros/ BeachcitiesIMC not too smart. It is all still up. SBM has been saying duke lived in CA. It is NC another badly formulated lie. I am trying to remember a voy forum where there is info. The numbers are jumbled in memory.

Nice work though. I have to agree with the opinion that deleting them is the best way to go. Pisses them off too. KEEP BLOCKING LONG LIVE THIS WEBSITE.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Stop it! my sides hurt....

by LMAO at you guys Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 8:40 PM

"Duke is flying low now as he is wanted by treasury"

Nope... Duke is flying low because he is now piloting F-15s....

:)
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Tell all of it.

by Jan in California Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 8:56 PM

His real name is Mike Manning. Been said before so it is being said again. Let him Bwhaha his way out of this. They are all part of this. Although the computer store is a recent addition. Try his friend larry too. Helikesstealing from EIB. Theseguys hang around at voy.com/60175/. Voy is a static hangout for these scumbags.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Let me get this right...

by Rational Normal Person Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 9:30 PM

This thread is about showing an ID before you are allowed to post a package and the leftist/anarchist paranoid loonies are all against it....

Then the thread degenerates to leftist/anarchist paranoid loonies trying to identify a poster here??????

Against identification for posting packages that can harm or kill...

For identifying posters on the net?

Oh well........

Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Hmmmm

by Scottie Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 11:07 PM

>> if our mystery IP man dropped an IP on "Scottie" I could cross-check..

- Hmm.. Somehow I dont think having that IP would help you. Besides that.. I re affirm I am not part of your super troll i always post as this nick (give or take a couple of mistypes and another nick I had a long time ago) and I never post as any of the other posters we are discussing here and I have never met them (although this is not intentional) or talked to them elsewhere so in conclusion there is nothing to "find".
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


so

by scottie Monday, Nov. 03, 2003 at 11:14 PM

Of course Im guessing you think that Im lying and you now think Im the key link or somthing hmm whatever..
conspiricy theorists.... hey, what can ya do?
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


© 2000-2018 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy