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Grocery Strike Solidarity Rally

by Rosalio Munoz Friday, Oct. 17, 2003 at 6:39 AM
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Solidarity Rally For Grocery Strike Thursday October 16 1pm Hollywood Pavillions (Vons) at Melrose and Vine. Parking at Musicians Local 47 on Vine.

The Los Angeles County Federation of Labor is supporting a solidarity rally for the UFCW grocery strikers today Thursday October 16 at 1pm at the Pavillions Store in Hollywood on Melrose and Vine. For information on strike support call the County Fed at213-381-5611.
Wall Street wants this strike to try and break the spirit of the unions in Southern Cal, we are a target today like the Midwest was a target before. Millions of people see this as an attack on everyones health care and unionism, lets represent.
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Need more time

by Mike Friday, Oct. 17, 2003 at 9:23 AM

I think it's great that we have solidarity rallies for the strikers. It would be better though if we had organizations really taking the time to get a mass rally/ march in place. I just saw the post and there is no way that I can make it...
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Yorba Linda Convergence, Saturday 1PM

by nightmare customer Friday, Oct. 17, 2003 at 12:03 PM

Throughout LA and Orange County supporters of the striking grocery workers are going into Ralph's, Vons, and Albertson's with the intent of halting production. Folks are packing the carts full with perishable goods and either leaving them in the aisles or going through the checkstands, then walking out without paying. This results in clogging up the lines and leaving the scabs to spend most of their time putting perishable good back on the shelf.
Recently, in La Mirada supporters were able to hold up the lines for over 20 minutes while scabs were forced to figure out the codes for fruits and vegetables that were unfamiliar to them. 'Shoppers' had previously removed the PLU stickers off the fruit making it very difficult for the scabs to identify the the various products. In addition products with bar codes had portions of the bar codes defaced forcing the scab to hand type each product. After all the products were finally added up, the supporters of the striking workers simply walked away from the checkstands but not before telling the cashier that they refuse to give money to scabs.

Such tactics have been very helpful and encouraged by many of the grocery workers. Keep in mind, these tactics work best when done in large numbers! We hope that such solidarity tactics continue to spread through Southern California. We also request that supporters join us on the picket line and join the fight to save our heath care.

This Saturday, we are requesting that people from the activist and radical community come together in Yorba Linda and join the striking Vons employees at Vons Store 3069. We ask for you to come and stand by our side as we fight for our families health and the future of the workers in the grocery industry. Let these companies know that the striking grocery workers are not alone! If you are unable to make it to the Yorba Linda site, then please come together and take direct action in your local community. Join us in our fight!

When: Saturday 18, 2003 @ 1pm Where:20445 Yorba Linda Blvd, Yorba Linda, CA 92886, (Cross Street is Village Center Drive and Yorba Linda Blvd.)




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"We hope that such solidarity tactics continue to spread"

by Max Friday, Oct. 17, 2003 at 12:51 PM

Those "solidarity tactics" are actually extortion, blackmail, and terrorism.

If I were a store owner, I'd hire some mafia thugs to kick your asses.

Anyone that engages is such leftist activism doesn't deserve any consideration. Let those people starve.
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A Matter of Right

by Future striker in AZ Sunday, Oct. 19, 2003 at 5:32 PM

We, in AZ are on the verge of sriking for the same reason as in CA. It is very unfortunate that we have to fight our employers for what is fair and reasonable. We came to the table with the idea of keeping what we have, plus a small cost of living increase, and a fifteen minute break for 6 hours work. We find ourselves fighting for our insurance and our paycheck. Shame on our employers! We are to be the bad guys simply for wanting to provide for our families as we have in the past! I do not agree with the tactics that the writer in the above paragraph is condoning, or with the remarks of the one that think the answer is to kick our _ _ _. Sometimes I think it would work much better if all involved would have their mommies come over, spank their bottoms, put them down for a nap and make them play nice when they woke up!
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Sick of strikers hassling me

by bunwhisperer Sunday, Oct. 19, 2003 at 6:28 PM

You folks are doing nothing but alienating customers.We need to shop,feed our pets/families and alternative stores are not always possible or convenient.

I was more sympathetic at the beginning of this but after being screamed at when I go to the store, I have little patience for any of you. We, the customers, are not your problem and mistreating us does not win you any friends to your cause.

I hope that when and if you return to work, you understand why some of us will never be as friendly to you as we once were. We may be a faceless crowd to you, but I do remember the two nasty people that screamed at me and I wont forget.
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if you were

by blah Sunday, Oct. 19, 2003 at 9:51 PM
blah@blah.com

If you were sympathic to the striking grocery worker cause, why were you shopping at the store??
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keep striking

by scab in socal Sunday, Oct. 19, 2003 at 10:44 PM

the fact is...i got off a rough 8 hours of work at vons the other night and i still had enough energy left to go have few beers w/ my fellow scabs. and i'm speaking on behalf of all the scabs at "MY VONS", we were ready to work an extra 8 hours if the manager didn't send us home. IT IS a no brainer job because anyone can go in and start work right away without any training or experience, for example ME :). and nightmare customer, please keep suggesting more tatics, we need something to do. that berkley tactic is great, instead of just standing at the register talking (and getting $17.90/hour), now we get a little exercise as we walk to return the items, we're still making $17.90/hour. TO ALL STRIKERS: quit suggesting that you help the stores make millions, you did not invest, you are their bitches and they own you. i have an idea, (if you have an apartment) go and strike against your property owner and tell him that you help make him millions he should lower your rent. you will never leave your pimp (grocery stores) that is why you choose to strike and not find another job or should i say qualify for another job. and your other pimp (union) don't give a shit about you neither, you're losing pay while they're still collecting they're 60k + in annual salaries (paid by you). the stores are not cutting your benefits, you just have to pay for a small portion of it. this strike is good for the economy, the idiots with signs are telling consumers not to shop at ralph's which is owned by kroger's but drive to and shop at food 4 less which is also owned by kroger's, therefore the gas stations now are making more money. please stay on strike because i love this extra money. while you are on strike, scabs are gaining experience. when you do come back with your tails between your legs, instead of working 30 hours a week, you will be working 15 hours a week because the other 15 hours will be handed to me. it's been a week and most of us know the produce codes already, it's not that difficult. i have nothing against lazy union workers, you can stand outside the store and talk for $300 a week, just let me stand inside and talk for $500+ a week. and stop telling me to shop somewhere else when i'm about to clock in for WORK!
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Why was I shopping there?

by bunwhisperer Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 8:32 AM

"If you were sympathetic to the striking workers, why were you shopping at the store?"

Um maybe because I need food? Duh! I am not a farmer, and I cant grow my own.

I dont live inland so there is no Stater Brothers near me, and Trader Joe's, in case you haven't noticed, doesn't carry everything one needs.

I am not, make no mistake, sympathetic to these people--I was sympathetic to the healthcare issue because it affects all of us. But I do not support striking and never will. Find another job if you dont like the one you have. I've done that--stop waiting for the company to change. They don't have to please you--they aren't their to give you love.

$5-15 per week for insurance is perfectly reasonable. I pay more and *I work for a health insurance company*!

I dont think all of the greed is on the management side.
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Sick of The Strike-not the strikers

by Customer Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 8:48 AM

Many union members are also customers and we will not shop at the stores as long as they are on strike. I support all workers. First they will cut your benefits, next it will be ours. It is not a race to the bottom.
To the scabs, as a customer, I will make your life hell, both during and after the strike. I am taking photo's of all the scabs as I pretend to be a customer. i love my photo cell phone.
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Strike

by Blas Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 9:02 AM

And I hope that "when & if we return to work" you will understand why we are not as friendly to you the customer either. Especially if management wins and we return for less pay and no health benefits.
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solidarity tactics

by Customer Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 9:02 AM

Three generation of our family have shopped at Safeway, and now at Von's. We are the loyal customers but yesterday I saw something that made me so angry . I was walking past Ralph's in San Diego and I saw the store manager Chip taking pictures of strikers.
I also saw our food being delivered in a private van. The driver was wearing a shirt in support of the revolution in Ethiopia . How safe is my food? He could be just a nice guy or militant Terrorist poisoning our food. Just a thought. Think about that the next time you cross the picket line.
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My apologies

by Delivery driver Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 10:23 AM

to you, Sir or Madam. Although this time of the year approaches, I didn't mean to scare you by wearing a T-shirt that may confuse your convictions about the worldly benevolence of United States. To make you more comfortable, I'll make sure to wear something else about supporting our troops, bursting at the seams of national pride or advertising my blind allegiance to the christian God.
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Response to blas

by bunwhisperer Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 11:09 AM

Blas wrote:
"And I hope that "when & if we return to work" you will understand why we are not as friendly to you the customer either. Especially if management wins and we return for less pay and no health benefits."

Why do you feel you need to put the customer in the middle? I don't want to be hassled just because I need to feed my family. Are we all supposed to starve? Puh-lease! Your beef is NOT with us so stop dragging us into it. I want to be left alone in peace when I shop. Oh, and when you DO hassle me, please dont expect I will not give you my opinion. You speak to me, and I will say I think you are wrong. Deal with it instead of telling me to f*ck off. Don't want to know my opinion--then don't speak to me when I shop.

You are all acting like kindergartners who haven't gotten their nap--and your behavior (egging people, vandalising store property, slamming people's hands in their doors) is reprehensible as well as criminal. How you expect to find sympathy with that type of attitude is really beyond me.
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Food safety

by bunwhisperer Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 11:15 AM

"The driver was wearing a shirt in support of the revolution in Ethiopia . How safe is my food? He could be just a nice guy or militant Terrorist poisoning our food. Just a thought. Think about that the next time you cross the picket line."

So only union members can safely deliver food? ROTFL

Geez, the reasoning here astounds me. Does the union do criminal background checks? I bet not. The stores may or may not--but I hardly think that we are more or less vulnerable then we were two weeks ago.

Its more likely that you will get sick off some food that isnt being rotated off the shelves quickly enough. I saw milk at Ralph's that was just a day away from its sell date--which you dont usually see. Hm, perhaps if someone gets sick from that they can sue the union for causing it.
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dumbbunwhisperer

by t Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 7:18 PM

"I saw milk at Ralph's that was just a day away from its sell date--which you dont usually see. Hm, perhaps if someone gets sick from that they can sue the union for causing it."

Um, maybe you haven't been reading the news littlebunwhisperer, but Ralphs locked out the union workers out after the strike was declared on Von's. So if there is a problem with the milk date at Ralphs, there is nobody to blame but Ralphs itself.
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Just a small question...

by Rational Normal Person Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 7:26 PM

Where are the strikers buying their food and other things now?

Is it as good, and do they get the "employee discount" at those places too?

Just wondering.......
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scab - you need your brain checked

by more rational Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 7:37 PM

If they hire you into the company, it won't be at 17.90 an hour. It'll be at scale. If the union's defeated, the wages will freeze, the bennies will decline, and it'll be because you scabbed on another worker. You're a *moron*. I haven't worked for 17.90 since the mid 90s, so if you think you've got it good, you're deluded. If you had a brain at all, you would have known to start working at a supermarket before, and would be striking with the other workers. I hope the real workers give you hell when they get back in there.
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get your buns outta here

by more rational Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 7:46 PM

Bunwhisperer - take your "slave thinking" and go back to picking cotton, okay. Have a nice life, and maybe one day, you'll recover from the abuse.

Some people know the facts. Supermarkets make a lot of money, and they couldn't do it without the workers. The people who do the work deserve a fair share of the revenues.

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WHo is the slave?

by bunwhisperer Tuesday, Oct. 21, 2003 at 6:48 PM

Hm, I dont pick cotton, I have a job I love-- as a web designer (with a great boss and flexibility), which I got because *I went to college* and *sacrificed* and made it happen for myself. I dont toady to some union who makes me go on strike--who is the slave now?

If I decided one day that my job sucked, I wouldnt need to go crying to anyone--I would just find another job. Hm,what a concept!
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Less rational

by Ignatius Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 4:04 AM

What an utter jackass. How do the workers "deserve" a larger share of the revenue? Don' t they get paid, with their inflated benefits, whether the store makes money or not? They don't have to worry about the competition. They just have to show up and do their jobs. And now their not even doing that. But they have Jesse Jackson on their side!
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Competition?

by Meyer London Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 9:51 AM

What competition? All three of the major chains are in collusion against the strikers. Two out of the three locked out workers who wanted to work in order to destroy the union and to steal the workers' health benefits.
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even more rational

by more rational Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 10:12 AM

"If I decided one day that my job sucked, I wouldnt need to go crying to anyone--I would just find another job. Hm,what a concept!"

What if everyone did that? Would we all become web designers for insurance companies?

Of course not. Some people would still need to do the jobs that need to get done, like hauling away the trash, picking food, cooking in restaurants, and whatnot. There's no reason for people doing regular work to be relegated to poverty level wages and benefits. (Few of the supermarket workers make the vaunted 17.90 an hour. 90% are part-time and most make close to minimum wage.)

Even if everyone went to college, some people would still work at the supermarket. It's a fact, and I dare you to dispute it.

**The first part of the linked article discusses the "slave" thinking I was talking about. It's just a mild form of the Stockholm Syndrome.**

PS - insurance industry = banking * bookies
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The Real World

by PA Sanchez Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 1:13 PM

Quote - "The people who do the work deserve a fair share of the revenues."

In an ideal world that woud be the case, however in the real world where many of us are employed senior management controls the game.
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Meyer

by fresca Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 1:51 PM

"All three of the major chains are in collusion against the strikers. Two out of the three locked out workers who wanted to work in order to destroy the union and to steal the workers' health benefits. "

You've posted some assinine comments and lies here in the past but this one is a whopper,

First of all, there is no collusion. At all. Never has been. The chains do not negotiate as a group nor do they act as one. The UNIONS force them all to honor the same or similiar contract.

And there is NO true lockout happening. Every member of the union was ready and committed to strike. None of them were even considering remaining on the job if one store was struck. When Vons was struck, the other two, quite wisely, read the writing on the wall and did what they had to do to get workers in. No way in hell the union would have had a fractured strike.

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fresca

by fresca Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 3:25 PM

May I grope your butt-ugly mother?
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Union Socialism

by Promoguy Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 5:59 PM

Let's face facts, running bar codes over a scanner is not brain surgery. Rotating produce or dairy is not rocket science. Mopping a floor, collecting trash and handing out the change amount a machine tells you to does not warrent $15 an hour. When you go into a store that is understaffed thank the Union for the lack of service. Grocery clerking is a minimum wage entry level position and as such noone should look at it as a career. If you are there long enough to get incremental wage increases to an intelligent adult's professional wages it is akin to being in the fourth grade for 3 years. Shame on you or congratulations depending on your intelligence quotient. If you want to walk out of your job that is your business. I say Von's, Ralph's Albertson's Big Bear... Do as Ronnie Reagan did with the Air Traffic Controllers. Fire them all. They have a right to unionize you have no obligation to employ union workers. I find it reprehensible that union workers "control" the employment situation. I have three teenage children that would love a safe job at $7-8 an hour. They are hard workers, reliable, and have no desire to contribute from their hard earned wages to union dues.
When you refuse to rehire the union workers apply the wage savings to your pricing structure and ADVERTISE that because you are now non-union your RETAIL prices are being cut 5% accross the board.

To you Union strikers... you are as bad as my welfare wallowing ex-wife. Sooner or later I hope the system catches up to her too.

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Class Act Strikers...

by promoguy Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 6:04 PM

This is why you have no respect from me:


CHP: STRIKERS BEAT REPLACEMENT WORKER

(10-21-2003) - Two striking supermarket employees suspected of beating a replacement worker with a baseball bat are due in a Chula Vista courtroom Wednesday, officials said.

Formal charges against Simon Jose Thompson, 33, and Charles Matthew Olvera, 27, are pending, said Paul Levikow of the District Attorney's Office. Both are being held at the South Bay Detention Facility on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy to commit a crime.
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one more thing

by promoguy Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 6:32 PM

This whole thing is insane. You union workers are not mad at the right people. Does noone see that the cost of medical care is the problem? Hospitals are understaffed they cannot afford nurses because union nurses need higher wages so they can afford to live in their nice new houses built by union carpenters, plumbed by union plumbers, where their trash is collected by union trash collectors, and they are protected by union firemen and union police so their union built SUV's are safe in the garages filled up with gasoline refined by union oil workers and shipped to the local gas stations by union truckers. Meanwhile the non union regular guy lives in a 100 year old house and hops into his 15 year old car that he keeps barely running by working on it every weekend, goes to his non union job and makes a percentage less than the union worker, pays as he goes for health care, and enjoys a relaxing hour in the afternoon with his family and thinks life is grand... Until he goes grocery shopping and sees a picket line, needs medical care and the nurses are on strike, his trash is't picked up, it costs him 600 sees gas at $1.80 a gallon, is charged $600 by a plumber for what turns out to be 2 hours work , sees the local firefighters bucking for another raise and "fully funded" health care, Sees the postal carrier driving a Lexus and stamps are going up again, Sheriff's deputies are staging a sick out and someone is stealing his neighbor's car.

Unions are pricing American laobor into unemployment. Unions are wholesale exporting jobs to 3rd world countries. Unions are simply responsible for the cost of living escalation in this country, and every year they cry for cost of living increases. Yet they never consider what that increase costs the company, the community, the state, the nation and themselves.

Unions were designed to get problematic businesses to treat employees fairly. They have become the problem. Businesses need to shed the burdon of unionism and the worker socialism they create. Unions ultimate design is to bring a consistant equal wage regardless of job description to prevent anyone from rising above another of falling below another. "To each according to need from each according to ability." Karl Marx

Unionism = Communism = Socialism

Tactics of striking union workers are equivalent to seditionists, treasonous, racist, nationalist, fascist and as such amounts to TERRORISM. Crimes committed under the banner of Union Solidarity is DOMESTIC TERRORISM and I hope the purpetrators are captured, detained and prosecuted under the same laws as any other terrorist.

May your mother never find out what you have done, and may the Lord forgive your deeds as the acts of an unknowing child.
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Give me a break

by Richard Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 10:35 AM

This strike is a waste of time and I do not support it at all. I will also continue to cross the picket lines and continue to shop. If I do not cross the picket line it means I agree with the union employees and I do not. That is fine that the employees want to take a stand however, do not expect the rest of society to support you.

The pro union people speak how they fight for better working conditions and pay, give me a break. In today's society (U.S) there are more than enough laws protecting the worker with out the union. Try going to a third world country and then tell me how bad your working conditions are.

Contributing to the cost of health care benefits unfortunately is a way of life these days, due to rising costs. What people need to do is blame the health care industry not their employers.

The union keeps mentioning corporate greed, how ignorant are you. A business is in business to make money if any of you owned a business or had common sense you would know that. Due to today's rising costs all companies are looking for ways to reduce operating costs. And if the owners make more money than you do it only makes sense. Unions employees want more money for less work, make sense to anyone. Unions are one of the main reasons why many corporations are leaving California. At one time there was a time and place for unions not anymore.
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rational?

by scab in socal Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003 at 9:25 PM

i realize the fact that i will not get that 17.90, but like i said before, it's just extra money and i would even consider keeping that part time job for $13 - $15/hour. you don't get 17.90 because maybe you might have problems scanning products or raising your hand and say "aisle 7 is open". it seems that almost every checker at the neighborhood vons has been there for over 5 years and that should have qualified them as senior checkers earning them that 17.90. what kind of hell are the you talking about? you so called "real workers" are too lazy to do anything in the first place, let alone give me "hell". you guys need to get your points right, your benefits will NOT be cut nor will it decrease. You guys with signs are IDIOTS, you can't even understand what it is exactly you're striking for, that's why you need the union to think for all you monkeys. you will still get to the same benefits and health care, you will still get to see the same doctors. now you would just have to pay for a SMALL portion of it along with a small copay. of course the unions don't want you to pay for benefits because that would reduce what you have to "contribute" to them. who's the slave now. now that i think about it, grocery jobs aren't that great anymore. i say that the union job is way better. they only have to work once every three years to negotiate for the idiots w/ signs (actually they're negotiating for themselves because if they win, the idiots w/ signs would have to pay them more). they also make the idiots walk around the parking entrance full time in the hot sun. now you actually work and have a fulltime job (can't complain about being part time anymore). you guys do that very well because it doesn't involve thinking. it's pretty funny how trained you monkeys are, when people drive by and honk, they're not supporting you, they just want to see a group of idiots jump and scream just for kicks. take a look careful at the people in the cars next time, are they nodding their head in support or are they smiling and laughing because not only are you the unions bitch, you are also the publics' bitch. you're my bitch cause i've made you guys jump and scream like animals a few times. i do not support the union, but i do support the strike for a different reason, the holidays coming up will be better for me than it will be for you. KEEP STRIKING BOYS!
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Increase Your Knowledge

by S. Garcia Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 1:06 PM

I have read a few of the comments about how people don't support the Union- I am non-union, my husband is union in AZ (yes, grocery). These people don't want to strike here, but I will support them if they do. In AZ we don't have a lot of rights as workers (we are a right to work state), so without Grocery Union my husband would lose a lot of what he has earned in his 15yrs with Kroger. They don't want to pay him holiday pay (well, okay they do $1.00 more a hour- would you work for that on Thanksgiving??). They also want to take Healthcare away from employees who average 40+ hrs a week because they were never offered fulltime employment (including dept managers). I will also mention Corp GREED...I believe in Corp making money, but for a CEO of Safeway or Kroger to pocket billions of dollars a year?? My husband & I don't live in an expensive home or drive expensive cars (he drives a 1996 Cavalier)...he also doesn't make $20.00 a hour...he is dedicated to his job & is fighting to keep what he has earned...he doesn't mind paying for our health insurance (but to have a 3 year pay freeze?)...some of the guys he works with make $9-$10 hr (after 5-7 yrs of service??). He doesn't want to walk out & walk a picket line (he loves his work- he puts in 70hr workweeks), but do you all think it is fair to take things away from current employees?? Increase your knowledge before you judge others- I don't think some of you would work for $1.00 more an hour on Thanksgiving (with mandatory shifts to work).
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Compensation

by Realitycheck Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 4:18 PM

"...but for a CEO of Safeway or Kroger to pocket billions of dollars a year?? "

Safeway Inc. CEO Steven Burd saw his compensation reduced by more than 40 percent last year as the Pleasanton-based grocery giant lost more than half its market value.

Salary: $1 million
2002 bonus: $258,000

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facts

by stealth Thursday, Oct. 30, 2003 at 4:39 PM

http://mcoreport.com

Kroger is suspected of criminal collusion with many other giant corporations in a massive fraud scheme identified and documented by M. Cary ONeal from Malibu, California. 100 fraud deals valued at $1.7 Billion and 100 fraud deals valued at $400 Million in massive corporate collusion, with no enforcement from the US Government.
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Blas is an ass

by Scabbie Friday, Oct. 31, 2003 at 8:14 AM

Yes Blas I hope you too will understand when you are standing in line for free food bank cheese that you made a huge mistake by forgetting who used to pay your inflated salary...... the customer that you will now "not be nice to" Fuck you asshole. You Union thugs seem to forget that customers are who pays the bills. Not your jack booted Union "Boss men"
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cry me a river

by annoyed Tuesday, Nov. 04, 2003 at 10:23 AM


I am so sick of these protesters out side my Pavillions store. And I'm surprised by the fools who are supporting them. They are highly paid part time workers who are actng like spoiled brats. Folks are under the impression that they will lose all there benifits..... PEOPLE , they are only asking to take half of what was and turn it to a co-pay.And the other 50% will still be paid for. Remember that most part time workers everywhere don't get bennifits at all. The other thing is the kids I see outside my store dont look familar to me... who are they ? where did they come from? Do they think it's the cool thing to do to stand up to the big bad union or have they really thought things through and belive they are justified????
Uhhhh, Left California, what's next?
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Misguided efforts

by Socal Resident Wednesday, Nov. 05, 2003 at 2:49 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the grocery stores want to reduce cost so they can compete with Walmart and other stores that don't pay as well or offer benefits. If they don't they will go out of business (Walmart can charge 15% less on groceries, because it pays less to it's employees)

The solution is simple. Get the employees of Walmart, Kmart and Target to unionize, raise their level of pay and benefits to be comparable to what grocery store employees make. If this were to happen, the grocery stores would be able to afford to keep the same level of pay and benefits.

Comments?

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Opportunist

by Opportunist Wednesday, Nov. 05, 2003 at 2:58 AM

>leaving the scabs to spend most of their time putting perishable good back on the shelf.


Thank you! I'm a temp worker who would have been sent home early several times (hardly any customers), but got quite a number of extra work hours because of this. Keep up the work! You're only giving us more hours, which I am very greatful for !

:) :) ::) :) :) ::) ::) ::) :) :)

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Lynda

by Lynda Wednesday, Nov. 05, 2003 at 11:46 AM
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Worker in Arizona might only be paid $9.00 an hour, but here in California where our homes cost well over $600,000, our part time shelf stockers make $17.00 an hour and above. The union employees have never had to pay anything for their health benefits and they make double time to work Thanksgiving Holiday. Maybe there is a difference with the unions in Ca and the unions in Arizona.
Last year Vons laid of over 1500 employees who work in the administration area and are not union. People in managament (including my sister) took huge pay cuts per month. My sister was given a pay cut of $1500
a month! Not one of the union employees complained or picketed over that. The administrative employees pay about $100 a month for health insurance.
The union employees are being asked to start paying about $60 every month. They think that is too much? They need to join the real world. I myself pay $1100 a month for health insurance for my family.All of the union employees get paid health insurance and a monthly income after working for the union for 20 years. What do the admininstrative employees get? They get to pay for their own health insurance and don't get a monthly income. They get their 401K and thats only if they decide to put money into it! Every picketer needs to quit complaining and get back to
work! I am continuing to shop at my Albertsons, Vons and Ralphs and so is all of my family. I will not let anyone stop me from shopping at my stores.

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take in the whole picture

by carol Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 7:10 PM
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I just had to tell the whole story for all the public who don't understand why the grocery clerks are upset about their health benefits being tampered with. I'm sure they don't realize that most of the clerks only work 24 hours. The employers don't want anymore 40 hour clerks. In this day and age it is hard to make a living on part time wages and then have to pay for the benefits on top of that. They don't want anything new, they just want to keep what they have. Thanks for your support.
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Unions

by Adult Supervisor Friday, Nov. 14, 2003 at 8:41 PM

The companies should not settle with the unions, now or ever. They should replace the strikers and move on.

The companies will be better off without the unions. Their customers will enjoy lower prices without the unions. And employees will be better off without the unions.

The only losers will be the goons who run the unions and the Democrat politicians who feed at the union tit.
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Why part time carol?

by Scabbie Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 2:13 PM

The reason so many workers are part time is because the stores have been "negotiated" in earlier union contracts to pay more in pension benefits for full time workers so in an attempt to lower their costs, rely more on part time help. Unions suck, they are a dying breed. They promote mediocrity at a premium cost. The workers all have that "You can't fire me cause I’m in the union' Well let the union boss man take care of you now
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Mrs

by Dawn Tuesday, Dec. 09, 2003 at 9:49 PM
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I just went to Pavillion's to buy some groceries. I'm walking through the parking lot and I see a striker yelling in the face of a small, very petite woman holding a small child (looked about 1). He's yelling at her and she is crying. I make it my business to go over there and tell her to get in her car and not to give this idiot the energy it's taking to be upset. (she had already shopped) I put myself between the two of them and started telling the guy to leave her alone. I repeated what I said to her, she thanked me and left. Then the guy followed me all the way to the store, cursing and yelling. I tried to ignore him but I failed miserably as I approached the automatic doors. I turned around and said, "I'm gladly spending money in here that will never enter your pockets. When you return to work here, I will stop shopping here because I never want my money entering your pockets."

I don't care if these people are on strike. That is their right. But where do they get off yelling at me and cursing at me or anyone? This guy was less than 2 inches from my face at one point. He was very close to the lady I tried to help. The baby was very scared. How can I ever care about these people after that? And every last one of the picketers were backing him up with cheers of jeers. There were about 15-20 out there.

I don't support their causes. I have never crossed a picket line before in my life until this strike. I've always defended and supported the little guy. But this has gone too far.

On my way out, I had a guy yell at me, "thanks for respecting our picket line." I said, "Thanks for respecting my family and providing me with a pleasant place to shop." I added, "I have no respect for you after today and I will return tomorrow." I left a nervous wreck and very upset. I will return tomorrow even if I have to pretend I need something. I wish I needed a lot of food. Because I want to go back and buy one thing at a time and keep going in and out all day. No, I don't have time for that in my life, but I wish I did. I know that sounds childish, but I will not allow them to intimidate me into not buying food. And I'm just mad enough to be a little childish right now.

Is this ever going to end? I truly don't want to shop in these stores anymore when the strike is finally over. I don't want these selfish, uncaring, screaming idiots taking my money and giving me fake smiles. Anyone that can scream in the face of a BABY and it's mother is not worth the time it would take my to spit in their faces.
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To Ms

by Scabbie Friday, Dec. 19, 2003 at 4:49 PM

Yes it's really too bad that these union goons seem to feel that it is OK to harrass customers, slash tires etc. With any luck the stores will bust this extorionist union and fire the lot of them. Good riddence I say
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