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POLLS SCHMOLLS

by skeptical observer Wednesday, Oct. 01, 2003 at 7:48 PM

Despite the Southern California news media's insistence on stressing the results of CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll results, voters should be skeptical about what is going on with the recall election.

The major networks (ABC, CBS, etc.) and their little pseudo-locals (KTLA, KCAL) have been running wild with the results of CNN/USA TODAY's Gallup poll results, which show a majority supporting the recall and 40% voting for Arnold to a mere 18 for Bustamante. But if you check the numbers, you'll see that the poll is based on merely 787 respondents, who represent a cross-sections of CNN and USA Today subscribers (!?!?), not exactly the most moderate or liberal lot. Unfortunately, the LA newsmedia and other national outlets have been harping on these results in an implied effort to skew the election in favor of the "terminator." So once again we have the mass media trying to brainwash the public into a bandwagon or surrender mentality.

Also, note how many of the major networks in LA are repetatively showing that ridiculous and racially-insulting Ahhnold commercial about Indian gaming. Considering that the guy comes from a Nazi heritage, it appears he's never heard of Native American genocide and sovereignty. Hell, next to him, McClintock looks like a Republican of true integrity,

If you dare watch FOXNEWS, you'll notice the crude banter about how California's "deserve" Ahhnold, whether he's a retard or not, because we are so "skewed to the left and liberal." As if O'Reily and the other sh#$theads had any scruples to speak of. Sorry if California's progressive liberalism scares you neanderthals out there on the East Coast and the South. We didn't vote for the lying-ass cokehead in charge.

To my fellow Californians, keep a sharp perspective when dealing with the media and your fellow voters. Even our

own regional corporate media will turn against us.



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recent poll numbers are propaganda

by X Wednesday, Oct. 01, 2003 at 8:02 PM

The recent poll numbers are propaganda designed to discourage voter turn out. Whenever turn out is low the right wing wins and they know it.

So vote for your life California.

The recall is a Karl Rove engineered coup attempt to control California.

If the Republicans get the governor’s office in Sacramento they won’t have to cheat in Florida again to win in 2004.

Don’t let the Bush faction win and gain control of California. It’s not about Davis. It’s about who controls the electoral college votes and who counts the votes in 2004. The lesson of Florida 2000 is: he who counts the votes wins the vote.

Vote No Recall.

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polls are for trolls

by Flowers Everywhere Wednesday, Oct. 01, 2003 at 8:09 PM

polls are for trolls

and don't care about souls

its whoever gives the biggest doles

please don't riot

someday you'll be at the hyatt

we'll get out fo the slum

when we go to mother Jerusalem

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progressive liberalism

by calif Wednesday, Oct. 01, 2003 at 8:09 PM

California's progressive liberalism should scare YOU. It's what got your budget into the mess it's in now, though you deny it.

Attention anarchists of the world:

If you want world economic collapse so anarchy can be the way of life on Earth, vote for progressive liberals. Progressive liberalism is a certain receipe for economic disaster no matter what part of the planet its taking place. It's the quickest way to achieve your dream.

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Stupid

by fresca Wednesday, Oct. 01, 2003 at 8:26 PM

And not too bright.

"The recent poll numbers are propaganda designed to discourage voter turn out."

Propaganda from WHO? The LA media is OVERWHELMINGLY pro democrat. Are you intentionally lying or are you just plain stupid?

Face it a majority of people in CA (not all of which are Republican..not by a long shot) are sick of Davis and his silly excuse of a LT Governor. We've had it with these two fools. Swarzenegger is simply in the right place at the right time. Anyone with half a brain could beat the two asses running things now.

I'd rather have McClintock but that doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. But face it, as much as CA wants these losers out they are not going to make matters worse by voting in some crackpots like Comejo or Huffington. These two shouldn't even be involved in the race. They are as much parodies of the process as Gary Coleman.

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Re: Native freedom(it's a lie)

by Bead Wednesday, Oct. 01, 2003 at 8:40 PM

Check it out, and go over to the reservations and talk with the Indians. They are under Federal law too, with a few differences. I was thinking about moving to a reservation to escape Federal law when the New World Order totally is in place, and I found out they basically have all the same laws we do. They are not independent only for the mob to come in and rape them. Help the Indians to be independent not dependent on the mafia. Arnold is no better where he lied and said he would not give in to special interests and had enough of his own money, then grabbed high contributions from rich San Diegans, Biotech, Computer firms, and scandelous Hollywood.

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"Vote No Recall. ".....YOU ARE SO TYPICAL

by KOBE SBM Thursday, Oct. 02, 2003 at 7:49 AM

How can you actually post something like that without making the connection:

Q: Why is there a recall in the first place?

A: Because enough people voted for it.

Those same votes will sweep Davis Dust out of the Governer's Mansion. That's a done deal already. The question at hand is" Who will replace him? My vote is for Arnold. He will finally address the illegal immigration problem, and stop facilitating the invasion of California (and the Nation) by illegal Mexican invaders. The school system is overloaded with them, the public health care system is being destroyed, and the whole process makes a mockery of National Security.

Put the TERMINATOR in the Governor's Mansion!

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Gallup disinformation.

by Mandrake Thursday, Oct. 02, 2003 at 11:11 AM

1-George Gallup, chairman of the polling organisation is member of BAP (British American Project for the Successor Generation) - an elite transatlantic network supporting right-wing causes.

source>Lobster Magazine http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk

2-RESEARCH ANALYSlS CORPORATION.

One of the most important areas of cooperation between what think-tanks turn out and what becomes government and public policy are the "pollsters." It is the job of the polling-companies to mold and shape public-opinion in the way that suits the conspirators. Polls are constantly being taken by CBS-NBC-ABC, the New York Times, the Washington Post. Most of these efforts are coordinated at the National-Opinion Research-Center where, as much as it will amaze most of us, a psychological-profile was developed for the entire nation.

Findings are fed into the computers of Gallup Poll and Yankelovich, Skelley and White for comparative-evaluation. Much of what we read in our newspapers or see on television has first been cleared by the polling-companies. WHAT WE SEE IS WHAT THE POLLSTERS THINK WE SHOULD SEE. This is called "public-opinion-making." The whole idea behind this bit of social-conditioning is to find out how responsive the public is to POLICY-DIRECTIVES handed down by the Committee of 300. We are called "targeted population groups" and what is measured by the pollsters is how much resistance is generated to what appears in the "Nightly News." Later, we shall learn exactly how this deceptive practice got started and who is responsible for it.

It is all part of the elaborate opinion-making-process created at, Tavistock. Today our people believe they are well-informed but what they do not realize is that the opinions they believe are their own, were in fact created in the research-institutions and think-tanks of America and that none of us are free to form our own opinions, because of the information we are provided with by the media and the pollsters.

source>from book, CONSPIRATORS' HIERARCHY: THE STORY OF THE COMMITTEE OF 300. by ex MI6 (British Secret Service) Dr. John Coleman.



and that explain a lot about Gallup polls.

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Gallup disinformation.

by Mandrake Thursday, Oct. 02, 2003 at 11:11 AM

1-George Gallup, chairman of the polling organisation is member of BAP (British American Project for the Successor Generation) - an elite transatlantic network supporting right-wing causes.

source>Lobster Magazine http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk

2-RESEARCH ANALYSlS CORPORATION.

One of the most important areas of cooperation between what think-tanks turn out and what becomes government and public policy are the "pollsters." It is the job of the polling-companies to mold and shape public-opinion in the way that suits the conspirators. Polls are constantly being taken by CBS-NBC-ABC, the New York Times, the Washington Post. Most of these efforts are coordinated at the National-Opinion Research-Center where, as much as it will amaze most of us, a psychological-profile was developed for the entire nation.

Findings are fed into the computers of Gallup Poll and Yankelovich, Skelley and White for comparative-evaluation. Much of what we read in our newspapers or see on television has first been cleared by the polling-companies. WHAT WE SEE IS WHAT THE POLLSTERS THINK WE SHOULD SEE. This is called "public-opinion-making." The whole idea behind this bit of social-conditioning is to find out how responsive the public is to POLICY-DIRECTIVES handed down by the Committee of 300. We are called "targeted population groups" and what is measured by the pollsters is how much resistance is generated to what appears in the "Nightly News." Later, we shall learn exactly how this deceptive practice got started and who is responsible for it.

It is all part of the elaborate opinion-making-process created at, Tavistock. Today our people believe they are well-informed but what they do not realize is that the opinions they believe are their own, were in fact created in the research-institutions and think-tanks of America and that none of us are free to form our own opinions, because of the information we are provided with by the media and the pollsters.

source>from book, CONSPIRATORS' HIERARCHY: THE STORY OF THE COMMITTEE OF 300. by ex MI6 (British Secret Service) Dr. John Coleman.



and that explain a lot about Gallup polls.

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are liberals abandoning the poor

by Liberty Thursday, Oct. 02, 2003 at 6:26 PM

Governor Davis has caused much grief in this state. Running as a moderate he has signed all kinds of social agenda for the far left. He has taken campaign contributions from Oracle and strapped us with more computer tracking for the poor. People no longer want to get unemployment or even food stamps, because they know they will be treated less than human and even like a criminal. Now this is not progressive. Hmmm, well, he is a 33-degree mason who is following the plan for the illuminist One World Order. The plan entails a combination of the fascist communistic system. Now the recall was for fiscal responsibility, but yet its costing California over 30 million dollars. Arabic, Christian Congressman Issa donated money to push the effort through which was being originally pushed by serious conservatives. Then Clear Channel owned by a tri-lateral group made up of people like Kissenger, and Bush, Sr. (Shriner, and thousand points of light) got on the wagon and pushed for signatures on some of their talk shows. The measure went through then the conservative Republicans got dogged by Arnold where he came into the scene as a liberal Republican. Arnold is part of the Bohemian jet set affiliated with Buffet, Nixon, Kissenger, Bush, and many other white males. Women or wives are not invited to this special event, and they have a cremation of an owl ceremony that goes on during the course of events. Arnold has a real jaded past where he has ran down blacks and called them niggers right to their faces, and said they could not run a country. He has had gangbanging sex including men to an old magazine, but said he couldn't remember, than said, oh I lied. He changes his mind on his stands; therefore we know he can't be trusted. He makes Bustamante look like a saint. Look at Bush we thought he was different than his father and we have been utterly disappointed, where Arnold's dad is a nazi. Issa has supported Arnold showing he has abandoned his true conservative values. A poll today says if Arnold backed out of the race McClintock would win. He is pretty clean minus the support for the war, and the Republican Bush association. Bustamante is more of the same, and has been rude to blacks. Camejo is the nice one, but does not care about our national or even state independence, as he is pro UN. The UN is a figurehead group for the Bilderbergers, and bankers. We do not vote on the people running the UN; therefore it is contrary to a democratic Republic. Candidates with old-fashioned American views are basically shunned. How anyone could kill their own baby, and how these politicians can be for that is beyond me. The left pushes for free and frequent sex, and then tell young women they can choose death for their young one. Ask yourself, would you have wanted that to be you or your spouse? Take some time to look at some pictures of babies in the womb. They smile and shut their eyes at about four months. Why does the left, and all of the left always support abortion, and give it a peaceful label. By peace he will destroy many.

I will not vote this round, where I could not find anyone that could win worth voting for. Seems to me we have been going down a steady path with each governor or president moving us closer to the One World Order police state. Many times I vote then later feel like I voted for the devil. I am praying for the best candidate to win, whoever that may be. May God have mercy on this beautiful state of California!

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