The world is all the more emptier with the passing of Edward Said on Wednesday evening. Said was one of the greatest intellectuals of our time, and will long be revered for his lifelong dedication to the Palestinian cause. A memory that won't easily escape me was Said's brilliant response to Samuel Huntington's "Clash of Civilization" article in Foreign Affairs in the summer of 1993. Said continually provided the Left with moral clarity and factual insight into Israel-Palestine; his death should remind us that peace without justice is both undesirable and ultimately self-defeating.

Yeah, but he was still an asshole. Good Riddance.

The words "moral clarity" and "the left" are never used together.

Well let's see, if speaking out for the rights of Palestinians and other Arabic peoples

makes one an "asshole" then I'm all for it, except I wouldn't want to share company

with Este-pendejo above.

This punk is obviously a spook or just a neo-con shithead since he makes the facetious

claim that there is no equivalency between moral clarity and leftist. As if neo-con

shitheads like Coulter, O'Reily, and the bush right wing cabal with their lies about

WMDS, al-qaeda connections and whatnot, that are putting US soldiers into a hell-pit

for nothing was moral. Get a clue, shit for brains.

LONG LIVE THE WORDS AND WORK OF EDWARD SAID!!!!

I'm sure he passed on with a little bit of peaceful assurance, given that recently some Israeli

pilots finally grew balls and told Sharon that they're not gonna drop bombs on civilians anymore.

Palestine-Aztlan Solidarity Para Siempre...

Could someone tell me where he is to be buried? I'd like to go take a piss on his grave.

Good riddence. The sooner people like him die, the better off we'll be. And that includes any of you liberal/anarchist asswipes here. Die!!

From http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10042:

He belonged to a generation of university professors for whom being a leftist sufficiently validated all that he wrote, no matter how hateful or demonstrably false. Today he was eulogized at great length by the New York Times as "an exemplar of American multiculturalism." The Times repeats, in summary, Said's false autobiography, as though it were factual. The article notes later that his claim to have been a Palestinian refugee has been refuted, and concludes the subject by quoting Said, speaking of the fiction which he elaborated in a series of books and articles spanning a lifetime: "I don't think it's that important in any case."

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From http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=7929:

By Said the herd of independent thinkers in political science departments have been taught that "Israel's occupation increased in severity and outright cruelty, more than rivalling all other military occupations in modern history." His acolytes also have found meat and drink in Said's pristinely ignorant and intellectually violent pronouncements about Jews. They are not, he claims, really a people at all because Moses was an Egyptian (he wasn't) and because Jewish identity in the Diaspora is entirely a function of external persecution. The Holocaust (which destroyed most of the potential citizens of a Jewish state) was in Said's estimation a great boon to Jews because it served to "protect" Palestinian Jews "with the world's compassion." Prior to 1948, he has asserted, "the historical duration of a Jewish state [in "Palestine"] was a sixty-year period two millennia ago." (In fact, as any normally attentive Sunday-school student knows, Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel lasted a thousand years.)

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BTW: What do Palestine and Aztlan have in common?

They're both imaginary.

> a prefessional liar.



It's little green hateball dave himself - calling OTHER people liars !

hahahahhaa

A "prefessional" troll who sits on his fat coward ass on a military base sucking our taxes not working but trolling, while he advocates sending other's off to die for oil as well...

be all that you can be !

I would like to piss on his grave. Maybe there will be tours to the gravesite.

The truth is the most important value we have, because if it doesn't endure, if the government murders truth, if we cannot respect these people, then this is not the country I was born in, or the country I want to die in.Edward Said life forever.

The truth is the most important value we have, because if it doesn't endure, if the government murders truth, if we cannot respect these people, then this is not the country I was born in, or the country I want to die in.Edward Said life forever.

The truth is the most important value we have, because if it doesn't endure, if the government murders truth, if we cannot respect these people, then this is not the country I was born in, or the country I want to die in.Edward Said life forever.

How great and intellect and how moral a person Edward Said was can be seen by the frenzy of vulgar and crude hatred his passing as provoked among Zionists and other racists and reactionaries. It is often said that you can tell a lot about a person by who his/her friends are; you can also tell a lot by who his/her enemies are.

> I would like to piss on his grave.

Why - what breed are you ?

I've pissed on Emma Goldman's grave. Might as well piss on Edward Saids.

Edward Said deserves to be dead. He was another Jew hating asswipe, just like Meyer and Hex. Given the opportunity, I would gladly put a gun to the head of both of you and pull the trigger. The chance of the bullet actually hitting your pea-sized brains would be unlikely, but it would be worth the chance.

> hating / like / Hex

Quote where I ever said hate



> I would gladly put a gun to the head of both of you and pull the trigger.



Excuse me - but I think I've spotted some of that hate you were just accusing me of.

Don't tell me the truth causes you to hate -

I think you *came here* with hate in the first place (maybe from a little green hateful place ?) and wish to infect other's with your hate.

Just a theory...

Don't try and pretend. If you left-wingers/anarchist were to take over, your first order of business would be to kill or imprison every right-winger. You're all murderers, like Marx, Stalin, Hitler and your other fathers before you.

> take over

whoops - we've hit a speed bump again.

Who said anything about taking over ?

Did mr. strawman get up on the wrong side of bed this morning ?

Besides - I'm counting on the system collapsing on it's own - compliments of people who hate - like you...

Thanks - keep up the good work !

Oct. 15, 2003 is coming.

Either put up or shut up.

Um - (how does this go ?)

AH - hrmmmm

MAKE ME !

Been trolling at LGF, Hex?

You probably shouldn't post there...you'd get you butt handed to you in about 4 nanoseconds. The regulars there are serious people, and love roasted troll for dinner. I'm here for the laughs, which you so kindly provide.

Anyway, as far as the rest of your nonsense goes:

"A "prefessional" troll who sits on his fat coward ass on a military base sucking our taxes not working but trolling, while he advocates sending other's off to die for oil as well..."

Coward? Hardly. I enlisted (the first time) in '91, just before the ground war in GW1 kicked off. I didn't know what my career field would be, so I knew there was a very real possibility I would be sent to the war in short order. Further, there is always the possibility of me getting orders to deploy any time. I just reenlisted a couple months ago, with that possibility in mind. Not the actions of a coward, wouldn't you agree?

You see, it's easy for you to sit there and do your own trolling, because your freedom to do so has been guaranteed by the sacrifice and blood of men better than you. So you see, your characterization of my service is meaningless...not just to me, but meaningless altogether.

As to the subject of the original article: Said was indeed a proven liar. That you would support his views says much about you.

As far as you mocking typos I make, perhaps you'd best study a little more grammar and spelling yourself, Skippy. I know, I know, it would cut into your busy perf board-making schedule, but make the effort...it might pay off.

much hate, little to back it up.

The world would do better with more like him. Call him what you like but he still stands above the harpies and vipers that would never be able to face him with clear eyes.

You cannot hurt him or his message.

You can only piss into a strong wind and drip with your own waste.

Farewell Edward, the sanity of this world has just diminished.

> you'd get you butt handed to you

promises promises

too bad you need trolls so badly you even invite them there

odd



RE: Coward

> very real possibility / always the possibility



well then I guess there's certain possibility you're a coward



> perf board-making schedule



kobe - is that you ? how ya doing, long time no see !

(I guess I otta post some pictures of my circuits just to dispell)



well I see we've still got a little spunk in us, guess it's time for some more screen captures and IP matches.

I really like the new one of ned lyle/kobe making the death threat - I guess you never thought that'd end up here ! Or you wouldn't be so upset about it and the real ned lyle would come forward as such to rightfully claim his innocence and angerly demand people stop libeling him, the business and so on, suing himself for damages...

HELLO - EARTH TO NED



are we through pretending yet ???

think hard for once

"The world would do better with more like him."

Sure, just what we need...more proven liars, advocating Jewish genocide.

Hey, come to think of it, isn't that part of IndyMedia's charter?

we need more liars like you.

With nothing but hate and pompus ass kissing.

Quote something from Edward Said that is a lie.

Go ahead, post at LGF.

Then go shopping for a prosthetic ass.

"well then I guess there's certain possibility you're a coward"

Sure...the same possibility as you becoming an actual interesting human being.

"kobe - is that you ? how ya doing, long time no see !"

Nope, not KOBE. Is it less scary for you to imagine the people who disagree with you are only one person? Poor fellah.

"...guess it's time for some more screen captures and IP matches."

How can you match IPs when imc doesn't track them? I have never posted at a KOBE site...and never will. Your "I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, IP, too!" threats are meaninless to me.

"HELLO - EARTH TO NED



are we through pretending yet ???"

Uh...I'm not Ned. Despite what your paranoid fantasies tell you.

"think hard for once"

Pot, meet kettle.

"Palestine-Aztlan Solidarity Para Siempre...

"

Working together can only improve each sides' chances of finally discovering the wheel.

From http://www.bigeye.com/jj092800.htm:

Edward Said, the world's most renowned Palestinian intellectual, was exposed as a fraud last summer. The experience apparently taught him nothing.

For decades Said had passed himself off as an exile -- an Arab born and raised in Jerusalem only to be driven out by the Jews in the runup to the Arab-Israeli war of 1948. He had told the story often, lacing his narrative with poignant detail.

"I feel even more depressed," he reminisced in March 1998, "when I remember my beautiful old house surrounded by pine and orange trees in Al-Talbiyeh in east Jerusalem." In a BBC documentary he recalled his years at St. George's, an Anglican prep school in Jerusalem; he and a boy named David Ezra, Said recollected, used to sit together in the back of the classroom. He told another interviewer in 1997 that he could still identify the rooms in his family's former house "where as a boy he read 'Sherlock Holmes' and 'Tarzan,' and where he and his mother read Shakespeare to each other." All this was lost when his family fled from Talbiyeh in December 1947, driven out, as he explained, by the "Jewish-forces sound truck [that] warned Arabs to leave the neighborhood."

But as Justus Reid Weiner showed in Commentary, the influential journal of opinion, Said's tragic tale was largely a fabrication. The Saids, it turned out, had lived in Egypt, not Palestine. Edward Said grew up and went to school in a posh neighborhood in Cairo, where his father had a thriving business. Now and then the family would visit cousins in Jerusalem; Edward was born during one such visit in 1935. But on his birth certificate, the Saids' place of residence was listed as Cairo; the space for indicating a local address in Palestine was left blank.

Weiner looked into the expulsion of Talbiyeh's Arabs in 1947. It never happened. He checked the student registries at St. George's. There was no mention of Edward Said. He even interviewed David Ezra, the student with whom Said sat in the back of the room.. Because of his bad eyesight, Ezra told Weiner, he had always sat up front.

From http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=7929:

Prior to 1948, he has asserted, "the historical duration of a Jewish state [in "Palestine"] was a sixty-year period two millennia ago." (In fact, as any normally attentive Sunday-school student knows, Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel lasted a thousand years.)

Like I said: He's a liar.

Dirty meat eater !

> Go ahead, post at LGF.

no please stop - you're killing me

Oh I forgot - you want to kill me, sorry

my mistake



RE: IP's

> paranoid fantasies



24.130.5.30 * Kobe duke (daveman/nonanarchist/fresca) - confirmed

do we need to see a series of screen shots for you too

please sargent can I have another



> Pot, meet kettle.

yikes ! that's so deep it blew right past me

surely it's not the old "well, you're just as bad as me" chestnut

you know what - I'm not, because unlike you on this friday

night I have some things to do

Not at all!

You're far too amusing alive and trying to think.

"24.130.5.30 * Kobe duke (daveman/nonanarchist/fresca) - confirmed"

Turn in your Mazter Hakker Noze Ring...you haven't got anything on me, Nerd Boy. Screen shot away! Waste that bandwidth!

It's funny you guys keep whining about "daveman/nonanarchist" like you've just discovered the Holy Grail.

I'll let you in on a little secret. And you can take a screen shot of this page for posterity.

I first started posting here in March of this year, I think it was, as daveman.

I got disgusted with the general looniness and a couple months ago stopped visiting. But, like having a sore in your mouth that you just HAVE to keep sticking your tongue into, I came back, and posted as mr wilson. I got idsgusted again with a singularly annoying faker, and changed my handle to tpfkamw ("the poster formerly known as mr wilson"). That lasted for a few weeks, then I settled on my current...and permanent...handle, which, I think, suits best what I represent here: nonanarchist.

That's a freebie, Hex; you don't even need to trace any IPs or anything.

"24.130.5.30 * Kobe duke (daveman/nonanarchist/fresca) - confirmed "

I would LOVE for you to post some screen shots showing that to be my IP.

Please post away.

The very fact that you are such an ass that you still beleiev that everyone who makes sport of mocking you is ONE person is proof that EVERYTHING you post is of no credit.

It's not a matter of making you. It's a matter of reminding you everyday that you were saying that you had evidence and that it would lead to prosecutions and prison. Should nothing happen by Oct. 15th, you will be constantly reminded that you made predictions that were false. It will be proven that you lied. It will mean you had nothing to begin with and you're full of hot air. I'm confident you are anyway.

Deadline Oct. 15th. Either kobe is picked up by the feds, or you're toast.

That won't matter to the locals here; they absolutely worship liars.

Eddie Said, Chomsky, Fisk...

If Hex is proven to be a liar, he'll be deified by imc.

I can't wait till that fatcat Chomsky dies. He's really cashed in on the market for hatred of America while taking his paycheck from the US government. I'll be so happy when he dies.

She got hope at 4:00 AM last night with the smell of cum on her lips. Which one of you motherfuckers was it?

That motherfucker did her.

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Do you have any proof we're all the same person?

No.

It's just wishful thinking on your part, driven by fear that your politics are in the distict minority.

As they are.

The only other name I use is Penelope.

Hi, im an anti-jew white supremacist impersonating a 'jew' ''meyer london''.

it is not the fact that WE Antizio bigots actually use information WE find over there openly talking about the "jewish problem", it is the fact that

WE ("anti-zionists") actually using our time to read material over nazi websites...and then WE talk about “hate”?!

what kind of a joke are we, "antizionist"?

We are miserable,

hate-infested, fanatic nazi scum...

And I can't wait till that this old man N.Finkelstein dies. He's really cashed in on the market for hatred of America while taking his paycheck from the US government. I'll be so happy when he dies.

I agree that you are hate infested, Nazi scum. But please use your own name when describing yourself as such.

Yes, everybody knows that we, white supremacist impersonating 'a real good jew' are hate infested nazi scum,

We never stop using ''jewish' names descrubing

ourselves as such

We already know what you are; you have made it more than clear.

But you still should post under your own name or handle.

you're right, nazi-scum above,

We ,anti-nazi, already know that imc has been flooded by the antizio bigots (anti-jews )impersonating 'a good jew'

who steal 'jewish' names, as this meyer bullshit above.

what they are; they have made it more than clear. -

NAZI-ANTIZIONISTS

all nazis are anti-zionists, therefore all antizionists are nazis.

soon there will be a new joke.... why did the orthodox Jew give up his faith?

: because he realised his rabbi was editing sf IMC on the shabath!

hey fake jew Meyer Bullshit are you fakely celebrateing a fake Jewish holiday too?

or do you have to go to your fake synagogue

:

Eveyone knows that the the Nazis all drank water; therefore, all people who drink water are Nazis.

By the way, not all Nazis were anti-Zionist; in the 1930's some saw Zionism as a good solution to what they considered the "Jewish problem."