imc indymedia

Los Angeles Indymedia : Activist News

white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Calendar Publish RSS
latest news
best of news




A-Infos Radio

Indymedia On Air

Dope-X-Resistance-LA List


IMC Network:

Original Cities africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol brussels bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia london madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice northern england norway oost-vlaanderen paris/Île-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech

Surviving Cities africa: canada: quebec east asia: japan europe: athens barcelona belgium bristol brussels cyprus germany grenoble ireland istanbul lille linksunten nantes netherlands norway portugal united kingdom latin america: argentina cmi brasil rosario oceania: aotearoa united states: austin big muddy binghamton boston chicago columbus la michigan nyc portland rochester saint louis san diego san francisco bay area santa cruz, ca tennessee urbana-champaign worcester west asia: palestine process: fbi/legal updates process & imc docs projects: radio satellite tv
printable version - js reader version - view hidden posts - tags and related articles

Dean! No, Kucinich! No, Clark!

by xyzzy Saturday, Sep. 20, 2003 at 12:21 PM

I feel compelled to interrupt this endless stream of electoral politics and inject a few words of reality into the debate.

Does anyone honestly think that if by some miracle Kucinich gets elected the system will actually allow him to put into practice even half of what he says he'll do? If Kucinich gets into office, he'll have had to sell out to get there, and once there, he'd be forced to sell out more. The seats of power corrupt whomever happens to sit in them.

I mean, first of all, we're talking about a brainwashed public that, thanks to an oligarchic media that's anything but a 'free press', half of which still claims that the Emperor is doing a 'good job' at governing, more than half of which thinks that Iraq and Saddam had something to do with the 9/11 attacks, a media that trivializes the Left while actively organizing pro-Establishment pro-war demonstrations.

Ah yes, the media. The big debate right now is whether to keep it as-is or to make it even more oligarchic; in other words the current totally unacceptable state of things that's helped foster the rise of American fascism is considered the bleeding LEFT (!) edge of what's politically possible by the system. Not to mention a political process that's so advertising-dependent that it forces all candidates to pander to the rich at 0 (or 00) a plate fundraisers if they want a ghost of a chance of being viable.

When fascist propaganda machinery is considered the left edge of the politically possible, I don't think it should take an Einstein to conclude that the whole system ITSELF is fucked up and needs to be questioned.

Besides, just look at history. The Progressive Era (Socialist Party and IWW membership at all time highs), the New Deal (Communist Party growing by leaps and bounds), and the Civil Rights Acts (scads of radical energy in the '60s) didn't happen in a vacuum, and weren't put into law because of generosity. They happened in the background of growing discontent, manifesting itself as growing numbers of people seeing the system itself as the problem and becoming willing to step outside its bounds in seeking change.

Reforms are allowed to pass -- grudgingly -- by a ruling class that's starting to worry their corpses are about to become the latest fashion in lamp-post decorations. (Note to any po-po reading this about to put it in their domestic terrorism file: I said "that's starting to worry their corpses are about to become ..." not "whose corpses have just become ...". I'm discussing the fears of the ruling class, not advocating any concrete policy for confronting them. So there.)

And if the reforms succeed in buying off the radical movements that were responsible for prompting them, they'll be undermined or repealed. Clinton ended 'welfare as we know it', Bush is gutting EPA regulations, affirmative action is under attack everywhere, FDR's sops to the people on media ownership and fairness were long ago defined as unacceptably left-wing, etc.

In other words, there is no alternative to social revolution, and even what are trotted out as the gains of reformism are in fact the gains of revolutionaries.

Vote? Sure, definitely. Why voluntarily refuse a chance to have some influence (however limited) over the system just by blacking in some ovals and putting a stamp on an envelope. Bush is so abysmally bad that pretty much anybody else would be an improvement.

But don't get so caught up in this that you lose sight of the rest of the picture.

I now return you to our regularly-scheduled program of squabbles over which Democrat is best.

Report this post as:

Listed below are the 10 latest comments of 2 posted about this article.
These comments are anonymously submitted by the website visitors.
yes vote. It puts you on jurys that bastard Monday, Sep. 22, 2003 at 3:12 AM
Is Clark Winning? Ffutal Wednesday, Sep. 24, 2003 at 6:23 PM

Local News

Change Links September 2018 posted S02 10:22PM

More Scandals Rock Southern California Nuke Plant San Onofre A30 11:09PM

Site Outage Friday A30 3:49PM

Change Links August 2018 A14 1:56AM

Setback for Developer of SC Farm Land A12 11:09PM

More problems at Shutdown San Onofre Nuke J29 10:40PM

Change Links 2018 July posted J09 8:27PM

More Pix: "Families Belong Together," Pasadena J02 7:16PM

"Families Belong Together" March, Pasadena J02 7:08PM

Short Report on the Families Belong Together Protest in Los Angeles J30 11:26PM

Summer 2018 National Immigrant Solidarity Network News Alert! J11 6:58AM

Watch the Debate: Excluded Candidates for Governor of California M31 5:20AM

Change Links June 2018 posted M28 7:41AM

The Montrose Peace Vigil at 12 Years M22 8:01PM

Unity Archive Project M21 9:42AM

Dianne Feinstein's Promotion of War, Secret Animal Abuse, Military Profiteering, Censorshi M17 10:22PM

CA Senate Bill 1303 would require an independent coroner rather than being part of police M10 9:08PM

Three years after OC snitch scandal, no charges filed against sheriffs deputies M10 8:57PM

California police agencies violate Brown Act (open meetings) M02 8:31PM

Insane Company Wants To Send Nuke Plant Waste To New Mexico A29 11:47PM

Change Links May 2018 A27 8:40AM

Worker-Owned Car Wash on Vermont Closed A27 5:37AM


lausd whistle blower A11 6:58AM

Website Upgrade A10 10:02AM

Help KCET and UCLA identify 60s-70s Chicano images A04 8:02PM

UCLA Luskin: Casting Youth Justice in a Different Light A02 6:58PM

More Local News...

Other/Breaking News

Irrémissible, l'inhumanité acquise en héritage S26 6:37AM

Addendum: Benjamin Tucker American Mutualist: Tucker Did Not Advocate Voting in Businesses S25 11:45PM

OUR HOUSE Grief Support Center Celebrates 25 Years with the House of Hope Gala S24 7:10PM

Against the Rent Madness and For a Nonprofit Orientation! S24 11:56AM

Cybermonde, cyberguerre, cyberespace, cyberterrorisme S24 6:35AM

Paraphysique de psychosomatique S22 6:58AM

Chuck Grassley: Women Abusing, Animal Murdering, Illegal War Supporting Criminal S22 2:58AM

Finance Capitalism and the Digital Economy S21 4:45PM

Muselières syndicales, muselières patronales S21 7:19AM

Jeff Bezos, Amazon, The Washington Post, Whole Foods, Etc S21 2:50AM

Why Choose Nut Milk Over Cows' Milk S21 1:01AM

Antrhopocène, le grand effondrement S19 9:53AM

Abolir l'économie S18 11:18AM

The Dictatorship of Corporations S17 5:26PM

18 Lethal Consequences Of Hunting S17 3:13PM

Paraphysique de l'outplacement déontologue S15 6:51AM

Shopping du bashing S14 8:42AM

After Lehman Brothers, Experts Say Global Financial Crisis Can Happen Again S13 8:28PM

“Animaniacs in Concert!” Starring Voice Legend Rob Paulsen S12 9:30PM

Probabilités de fin d'humanité S12 6:49AM

Florida Area of Migrant Farmworkers Denied Right to Construct Health Clinic near NaplesCIW S11 2:57AM

Steer clear of work morality! S09 12:10PM

The Shortwave Report 09/07/18 Listen Globally! S06 11:23PM

August 2018 Honduras Coup update S06 12:28PM

Brett Kavanaugh Filled The 5th Circuit With Execution Judges S06 6:14AM

Augusta Georgia Woman Gets 5 Year Prison Sentence for Writing About Russians Crime Acts S05 8:29AM

Paraphysique de contextualité S05 8:29AM

Crisis Regulation in Global Capitalism S03 3:39PM

More Breaking News...
© 2000-2018 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy