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Oct.7 NAtl Day Against Military Recruitment

by NION Saturday, Sep. 06, 2003 at 5:21 AM

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October 7: Stop the Military Recruiters!
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This October 7th, on the second anniversary of the bombing of Afghanistan, the Not In Our Name Youth Network is calling on youth and students to take a stand against the military recruiters. As the US Government’s war and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan continue, the recruiters have become even more aggressive in targeting us in our schools and communities, as well as on the airwaves. Increased ads on MTV and BET, as well as in magazines and billboards, are meant to complement recruitment efforts on campuses, creating an environment of militarism which cannot be ignored or avoided.

The unjust and immoral wars that the government wages in our name can only continue with a constant supply of fresh recruits. We have a responsibility to stand with the people of the world and refuse to fight in these wars of empire. Every day more and more young people are enticed with empty promises and outright lies about the purposes and benefits of the military. We must counter this by spreading truth and resistance to the war machine.

We won’t be the cops of the world!

We refuse to take part in the killing and torturing of innocent people and the occupying of their lands! Dick Cheney said this “war on terrorism” could last a generation. We say it is going to take a generation to stop these wars.

The Anti-Recruitment campaign is a youth-led initiative aimed at stopping the recruiters. This broad campaign will bring together youth from around the country to speak out against and resist the military’s invasion of our schools, as we say powerfully and with many voices: NOT IN OUR NAMES!

On October 7th do everything possible to speak out and organize against the military recruiters:

• Walk-outs: Either the recruiters leave or we leave!
• Speak-outs: On or off campus, unite with other youth!
• Teach-ins: Educate and learn from one another!
• Concerts: Art as resistance!
• Street theatre: Act out against militarism!
• Direct Action: Manifest resistance at military recruitment stations or recruitment booths at your school!
• Sponsor: Have your organization sign on in support!
• Promote: Spread the word far and wide that youth are standing up to military recruiters!


For teachers, parents, and community leaders: While this is a youth led campaign, we need your help and support. Demand that the military recruiters stop targeting your sons, daughters, students and the youth for their endless wars. Support the youth, students, and soldiers who resist! Join in the organizing and resistance on October 7.

Check the Not In Our Name Website for updates
www.notinourname.net
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Army Staff Sergeant

by Sean Wednesday, Sep. 17, 2003 at 6:22 PM
gaguardrecruiter@yahoo.com nonya nonya

Surely you don't expect this "youthful movement" to take part in an anarchist , anti-american setting like this do you? Please, if you must, vent your anger towards other problems like drug dealers, and gun smugglers. Recruiters are doing their job to help fulfill America's requirement to continue to bring in people that WANT to join and help keep this country as beautiful and free as it is! Remember, these recruits are 100% VOLUNTEERS. Nobody is forcing them to do anything! Do us all a favor and please respect those that fight for your freedom and take your protest elsewhere. Think about it: If our military didn't do these duties as they have over the past 100 years, don't you think the posture of this country would be in a very bad stance. (That's if this country would even be here today.)

P.S. I hear Siberia has wonderful winters, go protest there.

Sean (Staff Sergeant, U.S. Army)
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Okay Sargent

by Wolf Thursday, Sep. 18, 2003 at 3:13 PM

"keep this country as beautiful and free as it is! "
So we as civilians are free to get together to kick you recruiters off campus
where we have our kids.
Stay in your recruiting offices. We're paying for those also.
These places are not your fishing hole for the naive.
And take your glory posters with you.
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gettin' paid to kill people

by Mr. Steel Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 2:36 AM
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SGT,

Why would we attack drug dealers? I mean by your logic they are just doing their jobs. In this shit hole country if you are poor, I mean really poor. You have only a few options, sling rock (drugs), sign up for the military and get paid to kill people (mind you for a country that has given you these great options) or FIGHT BACK (sling rocks palestinian style) .

We the youth, a new generation without borders, choose to stop fighting amongst ourselves, and start fighting for a bew tomorrow, a better world is possible, and this generation without border refuses to be more exploiters- we pledge to make that better world real.

What kind of freedom is it where these are you options, either get shot or forced to jump in a shark pit. The bst that can happen in the military is that you learn to be a shark. Hell no. We are stop the fucker with the gun and we are taking the sharcks with us to make them human again.

We pledge resistance,
Mr. Steel
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Sergeant

by TY Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 3:03 AM

You are welcomed by many on our campuses. "Freedom" allows each individual to make the choice they believe is best for them. Some people don't want others to exercise their freedom, they want to control those people and prevent them from making their own choices, as the posters above clearly demonstrate.

Should the world ever become as Wolf and Mr. Steel envision, we will all truly be "free". "Free", that is, to do exactly as they tell us to do without question, or be shot.
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Sgt. Kiss my ass

by TY Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 3:14 AM

don't mind me; I equate protecting our children from predatory recruiters to being shot.
I'm a moron.
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^

by Sgt. KMA Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 6:21 AM

don't mind me; I equate individual freedom with preventing others from having access to information of which they can use to make their own personal decision based upon what they believe is best for them.
I'm a moron.
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speak of the recruiter.

by PFC- Proud Fucking Civilian Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 8:17 AM

since we're talking abouit captive audiences, your favorite kind I'm sure, ( and of course juvenile types already programed for regimentation) maybe we could also have a 10% time for disclaimers
from concerned parents funded by the folks at the DoD like you.
How about it, Mr. Free o Die?
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Youth Group

by TaterTot Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 10:20 AM

Oh, and Not In Our Name isn't targeting the youth of America?

What the heck do you call this?

Not In Our Name Youth Network

Kind of reminiscent of the Hitler youth . . .
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PFC

by nonanarchist Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 12:39 PM

"...and of course juvenile types already programed for regimentation..."

...by the Leftward-leaning educational system.

"... maybe we could also have a 10% time for disclaimers
from concerned parents funded by the folks at the DoD like you."

Uh, no. That's what parents are supposed to do at home. On their own time.

Why does the Left insist the government pay for things people should be doing on their own?

It's not up to DoD to present YOUR opinions to YOUR children, PFC. That's your job. You can fill your kids' heads with whatever crap you want.

All you have to do is talk to them. Or are you too busy out protesting something?
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to nonanarchist, fresca and other FBI trash.

by anti-troll alert Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 1:19 PM

Fresca , nonanarchist, smashtheleft, Real chek and KOBE are the same pitiful shit .I know,You know, everybody know.You postings are ZERO intellectual ZERO interested and you help on this board is - ZERO.Only you believe you poor opinions and arguments. You online harassment are Unbelievably pathetic and highly ineffective . You are unloved and unwelcome.Don't waste you time here. Fuck off !!!
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RE: trolls

by easy solution Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 1:25 PM

There's an easy answer to the problem. We aren't going away, so that hope is out the window. Just ignore any comments we trolls say. Skip right over it. Don't even acknowledge that it's there. It really is that simple.

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anti-troll alert

by nonanarchist Tuesday, Sep. 23, 2003 at 1:38 PM

What are you afraid of?

That you believe the people you disagree with are only one person says more about you than it does us.
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L-O- MUTHAFUCKIN' -L

by DAVEMAN=NONANARCHIST Wednesday, Sep. 24, 2003 at 12:07 AM

NOTICE:
THE BELOW ONLY APPLIES TO AMERICANS

Why does the Left insist the government pay for things people should be doing on their own

IF YOU ARE AN IRAQI AND IN NEED OF SOMEONE TO OVERTHROW YOUR GOVERNMENT
DO NOT READ THE ABOVE STATEMENT

OUR GOVERNMENT WILL PAY FOR
OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT
NEW INFASTRUCTURE
AND
ANYTHING ELSE YOU MAY WANT.

this shit is priceless
you couldnt make up any better comedy
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Left Children

by j.r.ewing Wednesday, Sep. 24, 2003 at 2:50 AM

>Why does the Left insist the government pay for things people should be doing on their own?

In the above remark, it is commonly understood by those who can reason that the writer is speaking of those who have the capability to do things "on their own" but are unwilling to do so. Clearly, the Iraqis were unable to organize an overthrow of Saddam, as was demonstrated after the Gulf War in 1991.

L-O- MUTHAFUCKIN' -L by DAVEMAN=NONANARCHIST, the conversations on this board are obviously beyond your ability to comprehend. Below I have provided a link to something more on your level.
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sgt amerson USMC

by sgt amerson USMC Saturday, Sep. 27, 2003 at 11:47 AM

those who belong to this organization designed to stand against anything they like it is thier freedom, one which we fight to protect. but i will say this if we had not gone to other countries to do harm to our enemies you make be speaking german or russian right now. and as for naive people in school, hey theres a reason they are naive, its your schools. go protest to get better teachers. we dont have to worry about killing people in my line of business, hell the kids of columbine and such other schools are experts at it. but as an 8 year active duty Marine, i really enjoy not having to worry about how to pay the bills. why dont some of you stay in school and learn something to better yourselves. maybe you can do more than fry burgers or fries, actually keep doing that, i like fries.

you disgust me, and actually you can be shut down by the FBI for speaking violently against the government or our country.

come to my office and you will meet the business end of an AR15, i promise
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you make me sad

by fmr Sgt. 11B Saturday, Sep. 27, 2003 at 12:21 PM

to think that we still have dim wits like you that haven't been ambushed yet through shear luck.
You and the the other poor lambs that get used for the killing floor.
You don't even know what the hell you're talking about.
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Sarge

by nonanarchist Saturday, Sep. 27, 2003 at 12:22 PM

Git 'em!

Unfortunately, our patriotism-challenged friends here are going to have some not-too-bright canned "militiary = killbot" remarks. They can't help it; it's an involuntary reaction.

When confronted with the fact that it's the military that assures their freedom to trash our country, they just get ever more stupid.

Semper fi, Marine.

This 12-year Airman salutes you and your service.
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Sarge

by nonanarchist Saturday, Sep. 27, 2003 at 12:26 PM

Git 'em!

Unfortunately, our patriotism-challenged friends here are going to have some not-too-bright canned "militiary = killbot" remarks. They can't help it; it's an involuntary reaction.

When confronted with the fact that it's the military that assures their freedom to trash our country, they just get ever more stupid.

Semper fi, Marine.

This 12-year Airman salutes you and your service.
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daveman is not G2

by fmr Sgt. 11b Saturday, Sep. 27, 2003 at 12:40 PM

he's just another suck up jerkoff. Riding his amor plated keyboard.
Looking for a future in politics.
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bush is his man

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Sep. 27, 2003 at 1:34 PM

bush is his man...
battery.gif5dtuld.gif, image/png, 474x600

> come to my office and you will meet the business end of an AR15, i promise

duh - hold still so I can shoot you

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Thanks, Hex!

by nonanarchist Saturday, Sep. 27, 2003 at 1:57 PM

"Unfortunately, our patriotism-challenged friends here are going to have some not-too-bright canned "militiary = killbot" remarks. They can't help it; it's an involuntary reaction."

And you didn't let me down. Good job!

fmr Sgt. 11b:

Did you turn in your balls when you separated?
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well I'm here to please

by Hex anon w/ encryption Saturday, Sep. 27, 2003 at 2:56 PM

well I'm here to ple...
nice_life_friday_nite_you_have.gif, image/png, 32x32

I just hope the truth is pleasing to you


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sgt amerson -USMC

by sgt amerson-USMC Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 2:34 AM

so are you guys going to rally like the Klan and show up in white sheetes because surely you wont be anonymous when you do, and i hope you dont think that someone that is in the marines locally from your schools WILL in fact know who you are. in the end it probably put you in a bad position once your views are publicly expressed and the true people you are exposed. i have nothing to hide and even show my real last name. do me a favor come to my place of business on october 7 please!. i will give your florida chapter, some directions how to get there. because if you do decide to show up, i can turn your anti war rally into a pro war rally in about 15 minutes, i have support form over 4500 students and we aim to please.
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Hi sgt amerson -USMC.

by Stephen DeVoy Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 3:13 AM

My name is Stephen DeVoy. I am an anarchist. It is my belief that supporting this administration's illegal and unconstitutional war is an act of treason.

I just thought I'd go on the record. Write my name. Put it in your book. See if I give a rat's ass.

Here's my website:
http://www.stop-fascism.org

We will not be intimidated by fascists.
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Stevie D

by nonanarchist Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 3:54 AM

" It is my belief..."

And that's all it is.

Don't confuse your opinion with fact.
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sgt amerson USMC

by sgt amerson USMC Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 6:21 AM

i could care less about your beliefs, nor your religion or lack there of. get on the internet and tell them to do this in south florida and watch and learn from your mistakes


amerson-out
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Time again for bloodletting

by CREEP 2004 Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 10:40 AM

Yes, it's time to sacrifice more and more American youth so the oil barons can get richer, and we as a nation become disenfranchised from the rest of the worlds popuilation, and to insist that our glorious leader can never, ever make a mistake or tell a lie.

Let the killing of American youth and the final transformation of the constitutional republic into a fascist police state begin.
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To SGT Amerson and all proud Veterans

by KOBE SBM Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 10:48 AM

I too am ex-military (USMC, 6600, 1980-1984), and was proud to serve in the defense of my country. I find it disgusting that these fuckwads have no love for American democracy. For that reason, I have joined KOBE in the fight against anarchists, seditionists, and anti-American activities in general.

Our government is only now taking steps to do what we have been doing for two years. The Bureau of Homeland Security, the new Special Units of the FBI, and the CIA are coming up to speed in this effort. At no time will KOBE ever interfere with the operations of those agencies. Wherever possible, we will assist in every way possible within legal means. THIS IS CYBER WAR. There are definite boundaries being set, and it is taking the same shape as the real world which it reflects.

Semper Fi
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i have joined - hahahhaha

by Hex anon w/ encryption Sunday, Sep. 28, 2003 at 11:12 AM

> I have joined KOBE


god, talking to himself then talking to the person he made up talking to himself !!!

hahahahahah

I have joined - myself, please join with me, myself !

Well kobe I see you're still playing with yourself !

but please go play with yourself in private somewhere

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SBM is not the first KOBE. He joined later.

by Anna Monday, Sep. 29, 2003 at 9:28 PM

According to Stephen DeVoy:

http://www.rationalanarchism.org/a_selfish_meme.htm

KOBE HQ was the first KOBE. About 6 months later, SBM opened up the website, and added KOBE to his name. So he did join KOBE, he didnt start it. I thought they just went after anarchists, Muslims, and Arabs. Not idiots like you. It sounds to me like youre jealous of them. I dont like you, Stephen DeVoy, KOBE or any of the bullshit they have brought to this IMC. Where is the political discussion?
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mr.

by mr. Sunday, Oct. 05, 2003 at 5:20 AM
l.a.

your actions should be commended, but think about your actions. what your doing is in a way technically a form of terorist action. we have many freedoms but to abuse them IN YOUR NAME is rediculous. just because your against it doesnt mean everybody else is. others have a choice. dont make a decision for others. keep your comments to yourself. if others will follow then fine. more power ro you. think a bout this. sept.11 was a great tradgedy, what if it were to happen everyday of our lives here on our own soil like it does there? would you like that? people there get hurt or killed everyday for doing less than what your doing. you dont have to join, just let the recruiters do their jobs and you keep getting your education. you dont have to listen. let others listen that want to. walk outs by the way are not the way to go. your just finding an excuse to ditch. also it doesnt reflect good on your education or others.
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What I love the most !!

by FC2(SW/AW) Izzo Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 3:33 AM
izzoml@yahoo.com (781) 729-3904 13 Plain Ave.

Do you know what I love the most about life ??? I love waking up in the morning and putting on my Navy uniform, just like my father had done before me during the Vietnam War. I love riding the commuter rail to work and feel good watching all of the faces on the train (especially the young children) and know that I am keeping them safe every day. I love my job, I love my country and I am against any country or organization that wants to fly a 757 f***in' train into one of my landmarks and kill over 3,000 of my fellow brothers and sisters, or any country that supports those who do. I do this because I love my country and I do this because I love my freedom and I love all of my neighbors and respect their freedoms as well. God bless America and you have two options if you dont want to be "recruited" or "Belittled" or whatever you want to call it.....LOVE IT OR FUCKING LEAVE IT !!!!! Dont do me any favors taking up space exercising your right to peaceful protect and being hipocrits by using the same very rights that people like me and over a million other fighting americans all over the world give to you. Give me a fucking break and get a clue or get out.
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I dont care anymore

by FC2(SW/AW) Izzo Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 3:59 AM

Do whatever makes you happy everyone. God bless all civilian and military. Hopefully these wars will be over soon and we can get our people home and stop killing innocent ones. God bless.
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This is a joke...

by ROTC cadet Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 7:40 PM

Being a freshmen in collage, I assume I am one of the "brainwashed children" you speak of. I am also an Air Force ROTC cadet. I was NEVER contacted by a recruiter and am not recieving any financial aid from our government. I am joining becouse I love my country and my freedoms and never want to see another one of my countrymen die in a terrorist attack.

Whether you like it or not we are the worlds policemen. We found out fifty years ago that we cannot ignore the world around us. As long as there are still people out there planning how they are going to murder more Americans it is our duty to be out there, to defend our country, our way of life, and freedom.

I will say that if I see any of you on my campus you will be driven off.

Maybe more people should spend less time abusing their freedoms and more time thinking about how grateful they are to have it. Maybe these same people should figure out a better way to solve the worlds problems.
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This is a joke...

by ROTC cadet Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2003 at 7:46 PM

Being a freshmen in collage, I assume I am one of the "brainwashed children" you speak of. I am also an Air Force ROTC cadet. I was NEVER contacted by a recruiter and am not recieving any financial aid from our government. I am joining becouse I love my country and my freedoms and never want to see another one of my countrymen die in a terrorist attack.

Whether you like it or not we are the worlds policemen. We found out fifty years ago that we cannot ignore the world around us. As long as there are still people out there planning how they are going to murder more Americans it is our duty to be out there, to defend our country, our way of life, and freedom.

I will say that if I see any of you on my campus you will be driven off.

Maybe more people should spend less time abusing their freedoms and more time thinking about how grateful they are to have it. Maybe these same people should figure out a better way to solve the worlds problems.
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This is a joke...

by ROTC cadet Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:00 AM

Being a freshmen in collage, I assume I am one of the "brainwashed children" you speak of. I am also an Air Force ROTC cadet. I was NEVER contacted by a recruiter and am not recieving any financial aid from our government. I am joining becouse I love my country and my freedoms and never want to see another one of my countrymen die in a terrorist attack.

Whether you like it or not we are the worlds policemen. We found out fifty years ago that we cannot ignore the world around us. As long as there are still people out there planning how they are going to murder more Americans it is our duty to be out there, to defend our country, our way of life, and freedom.

I will say that if I see any of you on my campus you will be driven off.

Maybe more people should spend less time abusing their freedoms and more time thinking about how grateful they are to have it. Maybe these same people should figure out a better way to solve the worlds problems.
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what a brainwashed knuckelhead

by ROTC meat inspector. Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 7:28 AM

thank you for affirming your meat status.
with the reposting of your eagar willingness to do the business of
business. I pray for your recovery or enlightenment.
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taxes, taxes, taxes

by Scott Wednesday, Oct. 08, 2003 at 1:03 PM

Well, all of the haters can keep paying thier taxes and keep on paying my salary...no amount of protesting can keep me from my 4-6% raise per year. Guess you'll have to elect one of your own to the White House to stop that one!!!
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Misdirected

by Concerned Friday, Oct. 17, 2003 at 12:30 PM

So much energy...misdirected.

It's not the illegal aliens, it's the business that hire them
It's not the cigarette, it's the company that makes them
It's not the military, it's the congress and president that use them.

Take your energy and use it to influence the country's decision makers - they set the policy, and can change the policy.
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You military, Scott?

by nonanarchist Friday, Oct. 17, 2003 at 12:35 PM

I get that raise, too.

Despite the rabid wishes of the emasculate-America Left.
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"military?"

by nah Friday, Oct. 17, 2003 at 12:41 PM

He works for the NSA.
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I support you man

by SSgt. Tolar Wednesday, Nov. 19, 2003 at 2:32 PM
tyrant_dictator@hotmail.com

I love my country and I understand that freedom is not free. There are people in this world who's entire existence is devoted to killing us. For those who talk trash at our beloved military, send letters to your congress person, make petitions, speak your mind, but don't take your anger out on the solidiers. We are in threat every day by people who want to hurt us. So until I see one of you in front of a U.S Embassy, protecting your freedom to live how you wish, your right to complain about us, I hope you do not disrespect us solidiers. I love serving our country and I love being a part of something that is bigger than myself working for everyone. If you've got such a problem with the way things are run here, then you must not be living a happy life, so leave the U.S and let those patriots live in peace here. Would you stay in a run down house on a run down block in a crappy neighborhood? No, so if you feel this way, take off. I don't like the fact that I pay for your scholarships and pay for your roads. Freedom is not free.
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Thank you Sgt Tolar

by J Sheekey Wednesday, Nov. 19, 2003 at 8:50 PM

You make me proud to be an American. God bless you.
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