Less than a week after the United Nations Security Council overwhelmingly approved a statement that "welcomes" the formation of the Iraqi Governing Council, a massive bomb exploded at the UN Headquarters in Baghdad.

The BBC is reporting at least 15 killed, and scores injured in the afternoon blast.

One of the casualties is Sergio Viera de Mello, the UN's envoy to Iraq, who had recently declared the Governing Council to be "broadly representative." The BBC is reporting the bomb went off "almost directly under the window" of Mello's office.

However, the assertion that the US appointed council is "broadly representative" contradicts fact. It is well known that only 3 of the council members are women, in a country that is approximately 55% women. More than half of the council members are exiles or Kurdish leaders (that have existed in Kurdish areas outside Saddam Hussein's control). One of the exiles is Ahmed Chalabi, convicted of embezzlement and fraud in Jordan, and a Pentagon favorite.

Further, the council is politically unrepresentative of the Iraqi people. A political science professor who was part of the process of forming the council, has noted that its "members were appointed by the Americans as a reward for aiding the occupation". In the same article Iraq Occupation Watch has reported that "while Paul Bremer has veto power over the council, he may not have to... The word 'puppet' is in the air."

In contradiction to the decades long US record of bombing, economic strangulation, and more bombing of Iraq, President Bush has responded to this latest bombing by saying it " would not intimidate the civilised world from assisting the Iraqi people to reclaim their future."

From what I understand from news reports, the US forces were responsible for guarding the hotel which housed the UN people. Sounds like the security was a little, er, lax. What if this had been the headquarters of the US military, and Bush and been inside visiting? Can anyone imagine a driver with a truck full of explosives getting close enough to drive it into the lobby? I wonder if the apparantly lackadaisical

behavior of the US military in this case wasn't a not so subtle message to the UN? A message that said don't interfere in Iraq or this is what you get for not approving our aggression?

It was reported in the corporate media, so I don't think it really happened.

If the UN hasn't figured out that these militant Islamics want all people on Earth to either bow down the knee to Allah and Mohammed or die, then 100 quadrillion homicide bombers doing this won't wake them up. A mesage. HA!! The UN wouldn't know a message if it came up and kicked them in their vaseline lubricated asses.

...to keep the heat off Tony Blair.

Radical Islamic terrorist organization murders UN personnel to take the heat off of one of the few world leaders with the courage to stand up to them.

Now, what I'd like to know is...exactly what type of recreational chemical lead you to this remarkably asinine conclusion?

I think the poster meant that the "coalition" troops failed to provide security for the building in hopes of some incident that would take the heat off Blair, not that the bomber was trying to help Blair.

Actually, no, it's not.

It's just as goofy as the other one.

Tony Blair's government was reeling today after his office was exposed for falsifying the case for the Iraq wa........

NO, QUICK, LOOK OVER HERE -> TERROR, TERROR!

UN BUILDING IN IRAQ BOMBED -> TERROR, TERROR!

BUS BOMB IN ISRAEL!

ARABS BAD!

REMEMBER THE TERROR!!!

Pay no attention to the lies in the Iraq war oil theft scandal.

hey does anybody out there want to be like Tony Blair when they grow up?

any kids out there?

i mean....

you know how his chin is all wrinkly and he talks like a little boy and stuff..

do you just think that's really cute or something? it seems pretty annoying to me, but i thought maybe some of you right wing nutsos could maybe explain what you like about this guy..

or maybe you don't like him..

hmmmmmmm..

who do you like?

wait... i think i can guess....

but tell us anyway why not?

Look in the mirror, Mossad. There it is!

As for Blair, what I like about him is he had the courage to do the right thing, despite the whiny dictator-apologists in Britain and the terror-supporters in the EU.

Anyone who bases their opinion of someone on their looks is shallow beyond hope.

what about his chin?

what do you think about his chin? do you like it?

"what I like about him is he had the courage to do the right thing"

Like Lie?

You go right ahead and write your elected representatives and get that impeachment rolling.

I'll wait here.

.... hahahaha

aren't you just going to miss him like the dickens when he's gone?

oh you poor thing.

don't you just love those men? if not, why do you act like you do? (- - take it from me - you look silly.)

Yeah, you're the paragon of mature political discourse.

Yes, I'll miss President Bush when he leaves office in 2008.

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maybe you should send him a nice letter!!!!

or maybe dedicate a song to him on the radio!!

maybe something by kid rock?

Wait, what's that, I hear something...ahhhhhhh, yes!

It's the sound of Tony Blair's government crumbling. Bush's will be next.

Vote To Impeach: 272,000 and counting!

Truly amazing to watch the sheeple and their denial. Doesn't matter how obvious the lies get, how many get told, and how clear the corruption of special interests steers the course. The inability of the ignorant to admit they're wrong and have been deceived helps keep the body bags coming back from Iraq full. The patriots called Bush on his lies. The patsies still believe him.

Out of how many registered voters?

I'm betting most of those signatures are not even registered. And many are multiples.

Meaningless.

Of course, you mean your drivel.

"Pay no attention to the lies in the Iraq war oil theft scandal."

"Like Lie?"

"Vote To Impeach: 272,000 and counting!"

circle

circle going nowhere.

circle stuck in neutral

They can't think critically.

Bush lied. Blair lied. They told us lies so they could have their oil war and to expand their empire so that more and more people could continue to serve the corporates who sit in their ivory towers as the rest of us die in poverty. Trillions upon trillions of us have taken to the streets and have made it known that we won't take it anymore, and still they will not listen. We loot, we burn, we destroy property and still they do not listen. We write, we chant, we play songs of peace, and still they do not listen. How many more marches must we have until justice and peace comes to pass? It is time for action! The time is NOW!! Let's sit around and talk about it.

nonviolence is the way

Did anybody catch the start of John Ashcroft's Patriot Act tour. His first stop was the local Bingo Hall with a bunch of Blue Hairs. I'm not sure if any of the 50 seniors gathered were actually listening to him or simply picking and scratching themselves waiting in anticipation for their weekly game of Bingo. Ashcroft fit right in with this crowd as he gave his propaganda message. He pointed out that we should all be afraid and let him tap our cell phones and peek into our bedrooms so the US could hunt down "terrorist" or anyone else who disagrees with the Bush Administration, and not to worry about our Civil Liberties, because we really don't need them anymore. Theres only us or the terrorists. After his speech he sat down for a game of bingo and cookies and punch. No reporters were allowed in to ask any questions

You right wingers are right. My opposition to Bush and Blair, and the opposition of just about everyone else I know, is based not on their murdering thousands of people, many by incineration, but on their personal appearance. Now, if Ann Coulter was running things, I'd like it just fine.

Tell us about the thousands that were incinerated in the WTC towers on 9-11 and how Bush and Blair are to blame...

No, you tell us more - more about how the 9/11 tragedy justified incinerating people in Iraq. As for Bush being responsible for 9/11, there is a growing belief among a great many people that he does indeed bear a great deal of responsibility for what happened that day. Do a simple search on yahoo or google and you might be a little less clueless.

"Do a simple search on yahoo or google and you might be a little less clueless."

Come across hundreds of conspiracy sites which have ZERO credibility.

LOL!!

9-11 justifies the killing of ALL islamic terrorists and their sympathizers.

Of course.

kill "sympathizers"?

i guess you want to lose even more support hunh?

i'm sure the right wing wants you to speak for them....

"there is a growing belief among a great many people that he does indeed bear a great deal of responsibility for what happened that day. "

Meyer, you're an idiot.

There's not a single sane person that believes that crap and you know it. But I'd love to hear your justifications. Please elaborate.

"kill "sympathizers"?

i guess you want to lose even more support hunh?

i'm sure the right wing wants you to speak for them....



Oh, so you think it's fine to sympathize with, support and defend these animals.

Ok. Fine by me. I wouldn't have expected anything less.

hahahaha.... oh -gasp-

relax fresca,

phew!

don't worry i'm sure you'll be able to sell your advocacy skills in the freemarket someday!! if not... there's always the public sector!! i hear they're hiring.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Please provide us with your evidence that the people incinerated in Iraq thought that 9/11 was a good idea. Also, please let us know what law code (international law, US law, or anything else) states that a nation has the right to incinerate people for sympathizing with an act with which they had nothing to do.

"Please provide us with your evidence that the people incinerated in Iraq thought that 9/11 was a good idea."

Please provide me with what gross assumptions you made that lead you to believe that I believed that they did. And then, please provide a bit more insight into the dementia that leads you to believe that there is a growing belief among a great many people that George Bush does indeed bear a responsibility for what happened on 9-11. Then elaborate on the spoils of war the USA intended to pilfer from Vietnam. Then tell us all why Americans aren't boating over to Cuba by the thousands.

When you do, I'll get back to you on you questions.

Thanks in advance Meyer.

"Please provide us with your evidence that the people incinerated in Iraq thought that 9/11 was a good idea. Also, please let us know what law code (international law, US law, or anything else) states that a nation has the right to incinerate people for sympathizing with an act with which they had nothing to do."

Beyond the fact that there is no evidnce that anyone has even BEEN incinerated, I think it's fair to say that the fact that these savages continue to attack and kill our soldiers while committing suicide is a sign that they probably lean more towards the cult of stonage islamic hatred and murder than they do towards civilized and humane thought.

But who knows.

One things for sure, as the wave of these savages continues into Bagdad fro all over the arab world, let's take advantage of the opportunity and kill as many of them as possible.

By all means, if they want to come to Bagdad and become martyrs, let's help 'em out. But lets be sure to wrap them in bacon before we bury them.

I rest my case. Everyone can see from that posting what kind of psychpaths visit this board to vent their right wing fascist and racist hatreds.

And Islam is a religion of peace.

Next.

Hellfire raineth down from the heavens upon the wicked empire (USA). The socialist archeangel Gabriel shall have thou soul, evil capitalist. For thou believeth those incinerated in the firey pit of Iraq deserveth the legacy bestowed upon them by the evil dragon-beast when the innocent Iraqis hath nothing to do with the great towers of Babel that were struck down by the wrath of the almighty Allah.

I rest my case.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/08/77955.php

that person said -

"One things for sure, as the wave of these savages continues into Bagdad fro all over the arab world, let's take advantage of the opportunity and kill as many of them as possible."

whoah.. is that what they really think or are they just trying to build the anti-war movement?

What case? Please restate your case and the facts upon which it is based. As far as I know you haven't addressed the first question inquired of you. I imagine there's not a jury in the district that would see things your way, the judge would be lauging at you, and it's quite likely your client would be pissed and demanding a refund. Of course all future work you'd get would be pro bono, because you've only proved your ineptitude as a crappy trial lawyer.

Meyer, you're in contempt of court. Take him away, boys.

The point is we need to kill militant Islamic terrorist before they kill us.

http://zmag.org/weluser.htm

hahahahaha

oh yeah a lot of people are going to follow you into battle

hahahahahhaha

"oh yeah a lot of people are going to follow you into battle

hahahahahhaha"

Perhaps you've been asleep for the last few years and haven't heard. The battle's already on. You and your handful of islamic apologists (an considering that virtually EVERY atrocity of the last few decades is from the hands of the "peaceful" islamic world, you have alot of apologizing to do) lost the argument.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/20/1446212

hahahaha

oh yeah. you know.. i missed that.

hahahahahahhahahahahhhahahahaaaha

i probably slept through the part where jesus was riding a white horse wearing a german helmet and leading an army to slaughter the evil "sympathizers"...

or was that you? hahahahahahahahahaha

We're still laughing at the notion that anarchists believe they have something worthwhile to offer.

I'm still laughing at the ridiculous education system (grade school and high school) in the United States, which claims to promote critical thinking and democracy, but instead produces people like you and Fresca. There are immigrants here with 7th grade educations who have a thousand times more political sophistication than you neanderthals.

Look. I'm smarter than you. Wiser than you, More likeable than you, Generally, better than you.

If you hate this place so much and are so misquided that you feel the compulsion to defend those that would literally die to slaughter you, than perhaps you should take your chances in any of the fine arab covens you care so much for.

Anyone of can't see the global pestilence of islamic fundamentalism and murder for what it is is simply lying.

Not that you've ever given been confused with someone with credibility.

This is the last bastion for fools like you.

I'm still laughing all the way to the bank.

Caducada: "Look. I'm smarter than you. Wiser than you, More likeable than you, Generally, better than you. "

...and modest...you forgot to mention that you are a paragon of modesty...

The anti-war brigades' favourite freedom fighters did a real number on the UN. I hope you anti-American traitors are proud of them.

[If the UN hasn't figured out that these militant Islamics want all people on Earth to either bow down]

Funny you should mention bowing down.

This is one of the UN's favorite NGOs:

http://www.lucistrust.org

The author at the top seems to be arguing "if the iraqis killed him he MUST be bad!"

Even UN representitives eh? talk about twisted.

Or there arent enough women in parliment so that is why the bombing occured (have you heard anything stupider?)

then the good old "must be a US conspiricy.. because the iraqi "resistance" would never kill someone who helped east timor reject islamic rule er... wait wasnt that one of the main reasons for bali? hmmm

Interesting that one of the people BushAdmirer thinks deserving of respect is one of Hitler's henchmen. He is right, though, that barbarians are threatening civilization - some of them are named Sharon, Bush, Blair, Ashcroft, Perle, Limbaugh and Delay. BushAdmirer is a very junior member of the same brigade.

You sound like a broken record. Everyone of your posts are a carbon-copy of all the others. I've been considering posting under your name lately just to spice it up some, because I'm quite confident I can do a better "you" than you can. If you can't get any better, you'll leave me no choice.

That chap needs a good thrashing to say the least. Or as we call them where I'm from, an "attitude adjusment".

I wonder why these reactionary cretins spend so much time at a leftist message board, spewing out fascist filth and demented calls for bloodshed and extermination of alleged enemies? It couldn't be that they are being paid to do this as part of their job duties, could it?

Really Meyer, I'm going to have to insit on better material. You're just doing the same thing. It's all cookie-cutter. Branch out or I will for you.

Meyer wrote: " there is a growing belief among a great many people that he does indeed bear a great deal of responsibility for what happened that day."

I challenge you to name 10 *respected* people who believe that Bush bears a great deal of responsibility for what happened on 9/11.

You and your fellow boobs down at the sports bar?

I asked him to name "anyone" that believed that crap and explain why.

In typical form, he ignored the challenge.

Not only does ol' meyer sidestep the question but he manages to get in another illustration of his status as the "ANTI-MAN" with that clever jab at sports.

Remember. Sports equal war.

Sandy Koufax had more credibility and nobility in his RIGHT arm than inneffectual dodgers like meyer will ever have.

Respected by whom, you ask, Meyer?

For some reason I knew you'd have a problem with that one. Why don't you try to work it out for yourself. I'll give you a hint: Michael Ruppert would not be respected by these people. These people are erudite and skeptical. These people study the complete body of evidence. These people are skeptical of evidence and sources unless they prove to be credible and reasonable. These people realize that a guy whose research is limited to googling the conspiracy websites is not credible. These people also realize that a government position that runs counter to evidence and reason is also not credible.

Does that help clear things up a little?

the A's are destroying the Box in the wildcard race. HeadtoHead in Oakland

...rense.com and whatreallyhappened.com are NOT respected sources.

Another sad year for an O's fan.

It's better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

Really Meyer, I'm trying to help you here. Buy a Playstation or something and your sad envious, resentful existence will pass.

...that josef and fresca are iron lung paraplegics who are bed bound bitter and the same ruined person. Injured while playing in the freeway nodoubt.

No, Fresca and Josef are voices of reason in a cloud of stupidity.

And your attempt at humour -- by making fun of the people who suffer from paralysis -- is horrifically immature and tasteless. Welcome! You're now a card carrying member of the cloud of stupidity.

alright they are paraplegics who got injured playing with itself.

I ment quadraplegics.
No one esle would use the spelling of the english language in
such a fashon. We've been seeing this for awhile.
Ironlung troopers.
So bitter and twisted.

"No one esle would use the spelling of the english language in such a fashon. "

I love irony.

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Too bad you passed out at the sports bar last night; you missed the announcement that you had won the drawing. Your prize is a pair of the late Dale Earnhardt's boxer shorts, suitable for framing in your living room. You will be the envy of your neighborhood in Bakersfield. In addition, you get your choice of a bumper sticker that says I don't brake for animals or one that says kill all Arabs. When the chicks see one of those on your pickup truck, they will think that you are Mr. Cool.

"sports bar"

"Dale Earnhardt's boxer shorts" i.e. NASCAR

"pickup truck"

We have a plan of how to attract people to our causes and our movement. What we'll do is make fun of the working class, where they hang out, that they like sports, that they're rednecks who drive trucks, things like that. You know, spit in their faces. Oh, Yeah!! They'll want to be a part of us then!!

We haven't heard from Meyer in awhile. He must have created a very long list. And now he's taking his time editing it down to just 10 respected people who believe that Bush bears a great deal of responsibility for what happened on 9/11.

You two are just envious that you didn't win the prize.

Looks like after a few hundred thousand civilians die at the hands of the puppet U.N. during the sanctions has not endeared the people.
As well as the first inspectors being intelligence agents to discern Gulf War II targets have not made any new friends.
This bombing seems to me to be a new strategy to keep the relief forces from taking over the management of resource extraction and to send a rather loud signal that anyone attempting to facilitate the relief of U.S. troops will have the same gun sight on themselves.
No garlands of flowers as well as WMD, it appears.
Is there anything we haven't been lied to about?.

Because the morons hired former regime guards. Idiots.

From http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/iraq/main541815.shtml

"U.S. investigators probing the bombing of the United Nations' Baghdad headquarters focused Friday on the possibility that former Iraqi intelligence agents working as guards in the compound may have assisted the attackers, a U.S. official said.

[...]

The United Nations' security guards were selected by Saddam Hussein's regime before the war and reported on the movements of U.N. staff at the Canal Hotel compound, which served as a base for weapons inspectors. The United Nations continued to employ the guards after the war. "

Not too bright of the UN, huh?

How convienient....

It was the UN.

Was it the same UN that voted not to go to war?

I thought it was America running the campaign?

YOu know, the America that let its president violate article 6 of the US constitution to go to war...

But you neo cons wouldnt know anything about that....cuz ya havent read the constitution in some time.

ha ha ha

systemfailure

being someone's second worst enemy (the UN as opposed to the US) is not really all that great a position.

The only difference is when they are killing their worst enemy you can be fooled into thinking they are your friend.

I guess that's why he's about to be impeached then.

Oh, wait...no he's not.

First you blamed the US for lax security. Then you learned that the UN office refused US assistance and instead stuck with the guards assigned by the Ba'ath regime.

Do you realize that the terrorists/"freedom fighters"/resistance are the first in history to target and kill humanitarian aid workers? Prior to that day, the UN and Red Cross flags protected these workers. No longer.

The only spinal cord injury hospital in Baghdad, located near the bombed UN building, was also ruined in the blast. Humanitarian workers had just completed its restoration, as it had been looted and closed.

Why do you refuse to display any outrage at the monsters who commited this heinous act?

...they hate Bush so much they have no room left for anything else.

No compassion for the Iraqi people, who they would gladly have left to be tortured, raped, shredded, and murdered if they gotten their way.

No support for our troops, who they perceive as mindless killbots instead of human beings.

And no condemnation of the Iraqi terrorists, because they twist the situation around to blame Bush further.

Nothing but hate in their shrivelled little souls.

Meyer has been silent. He must have traveled to Tikrit to pick up his paycheck.

Maybe he took my advice and invested in a Playstation. He'd be far happier that way.

Mr "alphabet" (tpfk)----formerly "mr wilson"

just laughs at violations of the constitution.

He dosent care....he only listens to his God "GW"

he dosent care about what it means to be an american, because he has no idea about the history of repressed peoples.

He has never read the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or the Federalist papers.

What a shame, and what a fool.

Sheep in a path...led to the slaughter.

Too bad your side lost.

Will you keep shouting "quagmire!" when our troops leave because the mission is complete?

When Iraq has a stable representative government?

When oil money goes where it belongs...into Iraqi pockets?

When the entire Middle East is better off?

Yes, I suspect you will. Delusions will do that to a guy.

You may not hate America (I bet you do, really, though)...but you sure as hell hate Americans.

...that in my world, grass is flourescent pink.

Three more British soldiers killed over the weekend. For what? Oil profits? Keeping those two clowns, Blair and Bush,in office? I hope you right wingers are having a good time sitting on your rears, sipping beer, and watching other people's children get shot or blown up on Fox News. Oil powers the US economy, and bloodlust powers you.

...are you any better than us?

Remember, you opposed the war. If you had gotten your way, Saddam would still be raping, torturing, shredding, bathing in acid, imprisoning the children of, and burying in mass graves the Iraqi people. And you would have no problem with that.

Get off your moral high horse. You have shown you have no morals. You would sacrifice the Iraqi people to the god of your cult, the Bush-Haters.

And in today's news, the Hussein Brothers Rape Count STILL remains at zero.

That's rich, coming from someone with ZERO credibility.

I would just like to add...

by tpfkamw • Monday August 25, 2003 06:00 AM



...that in my world, grass is flourescent pink.

First we were told that the object of this invasion, which has cost the lives of thousands of Iraqis, was to locate massive stores of weapons of mass destruction. Now we are expected to believe that the real purpose was to stop alleged rapes by Saddam Hussein's sons. Come off it, fool. No one who wasn't born yesterday would believe a story like that. The foreign troops are there to secure control of Iraq's oil and place it under the control of American and British oil companies, who will use that control to raise the pump prices on Americans and Britons.

"The foreign troops are there to secure control of Iraq's oil and place it under the control of American and British oil companies, who will use that control to raise the pump prices on Americans and Britons."

Ever heard of how supply and demand affects prices? What will these oil companies do to raise pump prices? Hold down the production? That doesn't make any sense.

what parts of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program were you expecting to fine in Iraq that hasn't already been uncovered? Other than say the chemical weapons which the US and East Germany sold him.

I highly doubt you supported going to war in Iraq, because of WMD. You simply trying to hide your lies and UN lies about 500,000 dead Iraqis and 600,000 Iraqi refugees, how the "Arab street" would rise up against us, and all the other BS you fed us in order to justice the right of France to buy Iraqi oil while giving Saddam weapons. Thankfully more people have died in France then in the Iraq since we told them to piss off, who says god doesn't have a sense of humor.

Now the UN is starting to see that Iraq is stabilizing and progress is being made, so they are trying to get a "crucial" role for the UN. As if the UN has a better reputation in Iraq then the US does now, HAHA In reality the UN is trying to get credit for fixing Iraq while not having to get its hands dirty. Guess what Bush told them, "Go fuck yourself"

By the way, the Red Cross is scaling back its operations in Iraq, because helping the Iraqis would mean taking risks. I am getting sick and tired of you lefty's bad mouthing American soldiers putting their lives on the line to help Iraq, only because you are too much of a coward to do the same. “Risk my life to help someone else, hell no, I am out of here” – most liberal scum that has since fled Iraq and come home to daddy

WTF is that about a human shield facing 12 years in prison for going to Iraq. The American justice system is shit, and unfair. The appropriate punishment should be reduced to making them stay in Iraq for 12 days wearing a T-shirt that says "I was a human shield" now that would be justice. Unless international activists would fear this because they know this would be a far worse fate …

Why is it that a site devoted to democracy and social progress continues to draw so many right-wing mental cases, psychopaths and pathetic individuals looking for somewhere to vent the rage they feel because of a screwed-up childhood?

As for the Arab street rising up agains "us," ask the many wounded British and US service people in Iraq whether this is happening. Or ask the families of the people who have been killed on both sides. Your ignorance is matched only by your bloodlust and the vicarious satisfaction you seem to get from watching other people suffer.

The Poster below hit the nail on the head: what I had figured out a while back. I am a pharmacist. I meet lots of people. (I get around and I read non stop). I also belong to lots of clubs. I do not know any fascists but yet they spew their filth all over the internet. The fascist posters are co-intelpro type fascist goons. THe right wing corporate, anti-worker agenda has a low attraction potential and the fascist movement to protect the corporate plutocracy even less. The corporations just as they start think tank after think tank and astro turf "citizen" group strive to create an impression of support and intimidation. Their hired goons are at work all over the web just as their terrorist armies are at work in the physical world. By the way the 9/11 expose' sites are the work of fascist goons as well. The Fascist junta chose to leave a trail like a herd of elephants implicating the Bush crime group in 9/11, then their cohorts post the info all over the web. After reading the 1001 problems of the 9/11 fable do you feel scared, demoralized, and hopeless? You do??? exactly as planned my dears. These people have so little support that they have to hit all angles to intimidate people.

Power to the people!!! See threw their evil tactics. Also, know that these fascist hired filth are very unhappy sick people.

...like so many at la-imc, cannot shoehorn into his narrow little worldview that people can actually disagree with his position without being paid to do so by evil corporations bent on world domination.

Because, of course, he constantly confuses his opinion with fact, is willing to believe the worst of those who have power over him and so swallows anything that villifies them, and thus resorts to condescension and insults to those who have the sheer temerity to disagree with him.

News flash, Ant-Fascist: I'm not paid to believe what I do. I'm not paid to visit here.

I'm your worst nightmare: a conservative by choice.

Dear tpfkamw ,

You are not my worst nightmare. You occupy no place in my concerns. There are so few of you belligerent fascists in the real world that your rhetoric is not heard on the streets. Mine is. You are a lonely goon screaming in cyberspace. By the way you are not a conservative: you are a fascist. My relatives are former members of the conservative movement and they are anti-fascist . They have left the conservative movement when they saw it had become fascist and completely anti-working class. They also do not like the fascist hate..

Gosh, you're funny!

And you prove my point, over and over.

I disagree with you? I must be fascist.

My views are not heard on the streets? No, mine are heard by the government...and there are more of us than there are of you, so our wishes are implemented. Your views are heard on the street? And what, exactly, has that accomplished? Nothing as far as I can tell.

You truly are funny.

Where are the fascist rallies? Where is your support among the people????

Corporations own the government not lowly fascist goons such as your self. By the way the Hitler squads murdered off the leaders of the SA who had been duped into supporting the corporate agenda.

You are a fascist that is why you are called a fascist. According to you it is improper to call a right wing hate , anti-democratic goon a fascist. Sorry that is the definition. You aren't funny: you are a hate filled lying sycophant. How much do you get paid for your goon posts? Why don't you go to a fascist site and post? This isn't a fascist site. Because no one is there?

Where are the fascist rallies? Where is your support among the people????

Corporations own the government not lowly fascist goons such as your self. By the way the Hitler squads murdered off the leaders of the SA who had been duped into supporting the corporate agenda.

You are a fascist that is why you are called a fascist. According to you it is improper to call a right wing hate , anti-democratic goon a fascist. Sorry that is the definition. You aren't funny: you are a hate filled lying sycophant. How much do you get paid for your goon posts? Why don't you go to a fascist site and post? This isn't a fascist site. Because no one is there?

Where are the fascist rallies? Where is your support among the people????

Corporations own the government not lowly fascist goons such as your self. By the way the Hitler squads murdered off the leaders of the SA who had been duped into supporting the corporate agenda.

You are a fascist that is why you are called a fascist. According to you it is improper to call a right wing hate , anti-democratic goon a fascist. Sorry that is the definition. You aren't funny: you are a hate filled lying sycophant. How much do you get paid for your goon posts? Why don't you go to a fascist site and post? This isn't a fascist site. Because no one is there?

Dear Illogical Fascist Lying Goon,

Where are the fascist rallies? Where is your support among the people????

Corporations own the government not lowly fascist goons such as your self. By the way the Hitler squads murdered off the leaders of the SA who had been duped into supporting the corporate agenda.

You are a fascist that is why you are called a fascist. According to you it is improper to call a right wing hate , anti-democratic goon a fascist. Sorry that is the definition. You aren't funny: you are a hate filled lying sycophant. How much do you get paid for your goon posts? Why don't you go to a fascist site and post? This isn't a fascist site. Because no one is there?

Dear Illogical Fascist Lying Goon,

Where are the fascist rallies? Where is your support among the people????

Corporations own the government not lowly fascist goons such as your self. By the way the Hitler squads murdered off the leaders of the SA who had been duped into supporting the corporate agenda.

You are a fascist that is why you are called a fascist. According to you it is improper to call a right wing hate , anti-democratic goon a fascist. Sorry that is the definition. You aren't funny: you are a hate filled lying sycophant. How much do you get paid for your goon posts? Why don't you go to a fascist site and post? This isn't a fascist site. Because no one is there?

You have sufficiently proven my point:

You cannot handle disagreement.

By the way, can you back up your claims that I'm anti-democratic? That there is anyone I hate? That I've lied? That I am, indeed, a fascist?

This should be interesting.

...I actually believe that there are WMD's in Iraq, so what the hell do I know? Not a whole hell of a lot!

Clearly it is you who is out of tough with reality and has not taken the time to read US soldiers emails home, they paint quite a different picture, say less the usual griping; to bad the liberals idiots that run the British press have no idea what being a solider means. The Iraqi death toll is less then say Canada's murder rate. Have the Canadians to starting rising up, because if Canada invades the US we could be in big trouble to right?

As for my lack of compassion for the French, if their families can't be bother to come back for vacation to claim their bodies, or check in on those at risk, until say the smell starts to bother them. Well I wouldn't say I was being cold about, I would say I was just being French about it.

I don't like third world countries pretending to be world powers when they can't even protect their own, and they wonder why we don't want to leave the UN, ie EU ie the French and the Germans in charge of protecting the world?

The EU is a paper tiger and the UN only works when all five veto power members agree, ie never.

the Arab street is a joke, notice the massive street protests before they invaded Iraq, then when other regimes realized if they didn't play ball they would be next, and oh my god, the street protests stopped overnights, as if the Arabs were against attacking war, yet not the occupation. Oh is there maybe another force behind the scene pulling the strings. In fact Iran mullahs have resorted to claiming that the US supports them to encourage their population to stay in check. With the BBC playing right along, how come there was/is almost no coverage of the Student protests in Iran, I guess its party because Muslims asking for US intervention sort of distorts the myth of Muslims hating us because they are racist crap your press tries to force down our throats.

What should we do about the oppression in Iran? Oh wait we don't have to do anything because once upon a time we did wrong and fixing it would be Imperialism and every lefty knows two wrongs makes a right

Oh second though, I like your logic, France started the Indian-French war so we can bomb Paris today!!

Yes!!!!!!!

What should be done to encourage reform in Iran? 70% what it, the reforms president is doing nothing significant. Any idea's or are you still going to play the blame game rather than helping?

"Clearly it is you who is out of tough with reality..."

Really? Exactly what does it mean to be "out of tough with reality?" Idiot.

"out of touch"

most people with common sense would understand the intended meaning

Sorry my bad I forget you activsts can't tolerate typos, maybe I will waste my free time double checking everything, On second though I don't really give a shit what you think Scottie, I don't care, you are a tool, get lost, grow up and move on.

I will no longer respond to anything you post

"Sorry my bad I forget you activsts..."

Oh? I'm an "activst" now, am I? For your information, I'm 100% conservative, you dirty asswipe. Feel free to take your head out of your fat ass any time now.

stupid faker

I did not make the above comment.

"We" can bomb Paris? You actually think anyone is going to ask your opinion about bombing anything? Or have you so identified with Bush thay you think you are working together? Maybe you should walk into your local FBI office and tell them that you are having fantasies about bombing cities. For once they might pick up someone who actually needs to be examined.

he is trying to fake nicks of people who disagree with him inorder to make them fight each-other.

it is easy enough to tell the difference in style.

Who and why? Simple questions. So who's future depends ABSOLUTELY on keeping the UN out of the way? Could it be an Iraqi exile who promised EXCLUSSIVE contracts to BP, UNOCAL and Chevron provided that the US and Britain exclude the UN from Iraq's future and grant him the presidency? Sound just too outrageous tpfk? Don't take my word for it. Do your own research. Google Chalabi, contracts, INC (for Iraqi National Congress). By the way, if you include the number "700" in your Google search, you'll find that the Pentagon flew Chalabi and 700 of his henchmen into Baghdad just as it fell. Then ask yourself, is it that our government is pushing Chalabi IN SPITE of the fact that he has lived in London since 1958 (that's 45 years. since he was, like, 20!)? Is our government selling us this Chalabi guy IN SPITE of the fact that he is a sworn enemy of most of the governments in the region (where he faces multiple criminal charges)? Does Cheney, a millionaire via the energy industry, favor Chalabi IN SPITE of his grotesque trading of the future of Iraq's resources for the promise to install him as the new Iraqi ruler? Couldn't be that the oilmen that run our country actually consider these facts to be assets, COULD IT?

nah.

Listen up, you guys can argue about who is right and wrong forever, but fail to discuss what great things can come out of this war. Think about it, when the Iraqi oil begins to flow at its maximum capacity cheaply to the United States, the economy of both countries will boom greatly!!! Americans and Iraqis will begin to see how much their lives have improved and we will live in peace!!! Next what we need to do is take over the damn French and teach them how to take care of their elderly people. Thats fucking rediculous, you liberals fuckin love the French, but they wouldn't give a shit about your old grandmother suffocating in the hot day heat. That is a human rights violation, not taking care of those who cannot take care of themselves!!!!! FUCK THE FRENCH !! OK, back to the main ttopic here; when the oil does start to flow at max capacity, it may not be until after the election and hopefully Bush will get re-elected so some Corrupt Democrat can't go into office and take all the credit. The economy is fucked up now because of Clinton,, Bush inherited his economy---it dosn't just get fucked the night after the inaugeration.

wandered in from Idiotvile?

After the pipelines stop being bombed.

After our troops stop being killed

And way after you pull your head out of your ass.