2 US Soldiers, 1 UN Worker Die in Iraq Attacks
Voice of America News
20 Jul 2003

U.S. military officials say an attack in northern Iraq killed two more American soldiers Sunday, and United Nations officials say an aid worker died in a similar assault south of Baghdad.

Two members of the 101st Airborne Division died and a third was wounded when their convoy, traveling near Mosul, was hit by small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades.

Several hours later, near the town of Hilla (100 kilometers) south of Baghdad, United Nations officials say the Iraqi driver of a two-car convoy organized by (the International Organization for Migration) a U.N. aid agency died when his vehicle was raked with small arms fire. At least one other U.N. worker was wounded.

A report from Reuters quotes a U.N. spokesman in Iraq as saying it was the first time a U.N. vehicle had been fired on in Iraq since international aid workers returned to the country following the collapse of Saddam Hussein's regime.

The media gave top billing to the Kobe Bryant case and buried this story.

...in this country, the infamous red herring. Want to divert people's attention from anything that really matters, flash a black male's face across the screen. Works every time.

About 2 days ago the number of US casualties in Iraq surpassed the total number of fatalities from the first Gulf War "Desert Storm."

Let me repeat: That was 2 days ago -- Mid July 2003

In the first war we didn't even think about trying to take any major cities because of concerns about high casualties. In the first war we stopped short of Baghdad and pulled out completely after Saddam promised to be a good boy.

This time around we've taken the entire country, all the cities, and we've been there for quite a while now setting up a new administration. Our exposure has to have been ten fold or more what it was in Desert Storm, and yet our casualties to date are the same. The Pentagon planners have to be really pleased with those results.

You might also note that Saddam's army was one of the world's largest and he had spent enormous sums on arms and ammunition. This was no banana republic. Saddam had the resources and he spent freely on military equipment and troops.

Our military is doing a great job and holding losses to a minimum. They deserve our support and admiration for a job well done.

You silly Saddam Supporters need to get a new set of arguments. Until then you're just talking to each other.

America is solidly behind this President. America is glad to see Saddam gone. America is not in the least humored by anti-American demonstrators and so-called peaceniks. Misguided souls would be a better description (However, I prefer "Saddam Supporters" because that's the tag that fits the best).

Keep it up though -- keep beating the drums and driving voters over to the Republican side as you have been doing. It's gonna be great having a big majority in the House and Senate in addition to controlling the White House.

And it will be extra nice to see Ruth Bader Ginsberg and her ilk getting off the court to be replaced by competent jurors like Justices Thomas and Scalia.

We could be looking at some serious forward progress here.

"The media gave top billing to the Kobe Bryant case and buried this story."

The Kobe Bryant case is obviously a setup by Mossad and the CIA. The corporate media bought into it and managed to keep the lid on the ready-to-explode public outcry against the war -- which has been, needless to say, fomented by the geniuses here at ConspiracyMedia.

Cos they got us into this mess in the first place

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Max - Please check yourself in to the nearest psychiatric hospital before you hurt yourself.

Still waiting

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/72432_comment.php#72724

Chicken shit

What's your problem with Condoleeza's article X?

Seems to me like an excellent piece.

I asked you a question. I'll ask it again since you seem to be a little thick. Please tell us why Condi Rice isn't lying about the Iraq uranium intelligence?

We await your answer. Should you not answer in specific to the question (like you do above, playing dumb), you can rest assured that your idiocy will be seen by all.

I just now reread Condoleeza Rice's article and fail to see any lying going on there

She's great! Don't you agree?

Do you really want Saddam back X?? Is that where you're going with this?

Are you that much of a Saddam supporter?

yes or no: Condi Rice was wrong about Iraq's nuclear weapons program, as noted in her article

yes or no

If you answer no, you must say why. otherwise, we all will have on record your all-hat-no-cattle persona

She might have been wrong.

That doesn't equate to lying though.

I don't think Condoleeza is a liar. Do you?

She's a high quality person with a considerable amount of integrity (in my opinion). Sort of the exact opposite of our former President Bill Clinton and his liar wife Hillary.

No one but your own little gaggle of misinformed and fantastical fools is interested in playing the "Bush Lied" charade.

In as much as EVERY politician lies, I suppose Bush did and does lie. Big deal. Get used to it.

However, whatever the machinations for military action against Iraq and Afganistan were and are, they are obviously waranted.

It's really simple. Subhuman terrorists attacked and killed THOUSANDS of us on 9-11. Everything we've done since then has been neccessary and logical.

Retribution and prevention. Finally after decades of attacks by these savages, we've finally decided to grow a pair and defend ourselves.

Quit whining. You couldn't possibly be more irrelevant and alone in your hand-wringing. People have died as a result of this and that sucks. You can thank the friendly arab terrorists who attacked us again, one too many times.

Now go on with your crying and your whining and histrionics but make no mistake. REAL people, unfettered by your particular brand of dementia and lemming-like behavior are only hoping we finish and come home ASAP. But they also know that what we are doing is OBVIOUSLY the right thing to do.

People die in war. But they brought this war to us.

and how you taunt others, you sure have a funny way of relating to people.

Answer the first question, point blank: do you think she was wrong?

"might have been wrong" is getting to a definitive response, but I'd like to see what you really think. You have an opinion, don't you? ;-)

Was she wrong, yes or no?

excuse me fresca, but we're talking about Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.

-> X

Nope! No real opinion on that point. British intelligence is saying there is truth to it but must protect their source. So we're unlikely to no the details behind that point.

However, in the broad sweep of history that point is so minor as to be practically insignificant.

As I've said here before, the liberal left has been so marginalized politically that they seize on practically any point and attempt to amplify and make an issue of it. They have no valid issues, so they try to take a minor point like this and pump it up into an issue.

Boring, very boring.

"excuse me fresca, but we're talking about Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11."

Of course it does. Why?

Beacause Iraq was involved in 9-11? No. Of course not.
Because of the risk of Sadam aiding and abetting in ANOTHER 9-11. Of course.

Come on x try to keep up.

As for Rice. Who knows. She very well may have been lying in order to facilitate getting the job done. I couldn't be more uninterested. As long as Sadam's gone.

Thanks to naive fools like yourself, sometimes the obvious right thing to do requires a hard sell.

I 've faulted Bush et.al. all along for all this WMD rhetoric. Not that I don't believe they were there; but it was unnecessary. Getting rid of Sadam and a potential alliance with al queda and their ilk was reason enough to go in.

1.there is no way to independently confirm the news about attacks on us military in iraq

2.even if said alleged attacks were true,there is no way to independently confirm who's behind them

3.cui prodest? who's benefiting from such alleged attacks or the hype about them?

only the bush oil/defense/reconstruction war profiteers and thugs.

indeed without such attacks blamed on the alleged saddam redivivus bush and his henchmen would long since have had to fuck off from iraq,having run out of excuses to stay and occupy on.

but since they are making zillions out of the iraqi war,who wants stabilization peace and handover when you can make a lot more money from infinite war?

but perpetual war needs perpetual enemies.

therefore I tend to deem it more plusible that the alleged atacks on americans in iraq either are false news spread by the propaganda machine or if they are real they are provoked or even directly performed by the same govt terrorist who gave us 911:

BUSH AND HIS GANG OF THUGS.

consider history:

an authentic popular resistance style ho chi min or the italia or french partisans against the nazis only surfaced when the angloamericans started to seriously kick some german ass and helping sponsoring the greedom fighters.

the same goes for vietnam who was backed by russia and china.

but the alleged iraqi resistance is not backed by anyone that I can possibly think of...

so where do they get the money to buy rpgs,guns,ammunition,safe houses,logistics etc?

it is just not plausible that a bunch or iraqi ho chi mins would have survived 200,000 angloamericans for so long.

think it over people:

why does bush never capture osama?

or mullah omar?

or why does sharon never target hamas leader yassin for assassination,full knowing yassin's address?

money money money deals deals deals...

don't believe the hype hey chuck don't.


ps: cnn has a list of us dead since may 1 - and it's only 20 killed by the alleged resistance instead of the 37 total given today by the >International Herald Tribune - where are the other 17 allegedly killed since may 1?

and:8 out of 20 listed by cnn hane no picture but only a black silhouette.

It is clear from his comments on Bader Ginsberg and the Supreme Court - from that towering intellect Pat Robertson. It must be pretty easy to write off the US casualties in Iraq as nothing - when you are sitting on a couch is suburban southern California watching it on tv - the few seconds they give to the subject between reports on Kobe Bryant and Jennifer Lopez's upcoming wedding. By the way, another American was killed today - with a grenade. This combines with the two combat deaths and one accidental death over the weekend average out to more than an American a day - a rate that may well start to climb sharply as conditions in Iraq worsten. I wonder how those military fellows who wanted to ask Ashcroft for his resignation would have responded if Bush Admirer had shown up and explained that the casualties were no big deal and that the war was over because the US theoretically was in control of all the big cities.

...Rumsfeld's resignation they requested. Although Ashcroft needs to be removed from office, also.

How easy, indeed, to dismiss a few lives here, a few lives there. When one's own life is not at risk, it becomes all the more earier. Hmm, B.A and Fresca?

Comments from the aforemantioned:

'This time around we've taken the entire country' - B.A.

'WE'? Don't include me in your tyranny. And taken? What does this mean? Rolled troops through sandstorms in the desert? How about this statement: 'The US occupying forces have stationed themselves in garrisons around the urban centers and oil facilities.' Much closer to the truth, BA.

'In as much as EVERY politician lies, I suppose Bush did and does lie. Big deal. Get used to it' - fresca

Funny how when CLINTON lied about something so insignificant as SEX, the Republicans tried to impeach him. But when SHRUB lies about the reasons for sending people off to their deaths', the Republicans say 'Everybody does it.' What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites!

"What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites!"

I didn't call for his Impeachment.

But the fact still remains. Clinton lied under oath and Bush hasn't yet. Not the biggest fan of either of them so settle down junior.

"What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites! What hypocrites!"

I didn't call for his Impeachment.

But the fact still remains. Clinton lied under oath and Bush hasn't yet. Not the biggest fan of either of them so settle down junior.

Lying under oath in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case (and I do think that Jones was telling the truth) was a serious matter. But more serious than lying in a State of the Union Address and other official speeches that provided the basis for launching a war that cost the lives of thousands of people, and may cost the lives of thousands more? You ought to be glad Clinton was not removed from office, by the way. Otherwise, Gore would have run against Bush as a sitting President presiding over a booming economy. He would have won easily in 2000, Florida or no Florida.

Not only would you go to jail but you would get your fat
ass kicked. The best part would be that you would deserve getting clocked by the scumbag.

“a rate that may well start to climb sharply as conditions in Iraq worsten.”

Oh Yeah, I hope your not wishing for that, but here time will tell….

Rest assured the “Bush” doctrine was not actually his own creation, Bush is a moron. Either way, it is nothing new, and has most likely saved millions over the years – no statistics as of yet, although “Statistically morons will always be right now and then”

Furthermore, 200 American soldiers and around 3,240 Iraqi civilians are relatively small in comparison to say EVERY MAJOR CONFICT. Now Old Europe has bought peace in the Congo, only took 3,240,000 dead, Yeah! (sorry, I must have missed the protests) I am more hopeful about this power sharing government than other truces in the past. The only problem is that purchased peace rarely lasts.

However, I feel we got involved in the “developmentally challenged” world. The moment Britain, France, Holland, Spain and Portugal set out to build their true Imperial empires. And the damn Yanks ruled Panama, screw them and their damn Atlantic-Pacific passage!
Now, most likely African wars would still have be ongoing, although not fueled on by “British” borders. However, one thing is for sure, they wouldn’t have been fighting with AK-47’s, damn Yanks selling their AK’s. Anyone want to do anything about it? Better yet let’s, just pretend that they are not human and therefore it is not our concern!

ON TO THERAN!

AGREE TO FEED ALL OF NORTH KOREA!

Amen. And after that let's go to Tehran.

East, Bush Admirer, Clinton was of middle class background and never lived in a trailor park. In fact, one of his wealthy relatives was influential in keeping him from getting drafted. "Our" system is not set up so that people who grow up in trailor parks go on to become President. They are more likely to wind up as low level clerical workers (like Paula Jones), subject to low pay, sexual harassment, and daily insults from "managers." Or they are likely to become Roto-Rooter men, cleaning out the drains of suburban yuppies like Bush Admirer.

The first word of my earlier posting should have been "Easy."

"Our" system is not set up so that people who grow up in trailor parks go on to become President."

Thank you. That log cabin was a real bitch, especially during the winter. Don't want nothing to do with those beer cans.

"Our" system was not set up- (1860)
It's been awhile.
"Our" system is not set up - (2003)
welcome to the NWO

If you say so.