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A New American Civil War - West Vs. East?

by Sheriff Mike Cook Friday, Jul. 18, 2003 at 2:33 PM

Enviro types are using every un-Constitutional law they have shoved down our throat to stop this use of "government land" for grazing, logging and recreation. That's why I'm worried about civil war. Sheriff Mike Cook (retired) God Bless America.

A New American Civil War - West Vs. East?
By Sheriff Mike Cook

I'm starting to get worried. It seems to me that everything I read in the news anymore is slanted to the liberal side of things. They are really starting to work hard to turn the tide in the 2004 election. I believe the liberals know that if they don't gain ground on this election the movements they have championed will be set back for a long time. For conservative people like me this is good, however I believe we are about to see all stops pulled out and some of the dirtiest campaigning you have ever witnessed coming down the pike.
The liberal main stream media will be putting out about as much false and misleading information as they can. You see the truth doesn't matter to them if they can get the emotional response they want. An example would be the attack on so called assault weapons by CNN. There was nothing in that report that was even remotely close to the truth. The whole thing was set up to make the people on the line panic for no good reason at all. How many times will they shoot movies or documentaries about the school shooting at Columbine. We have lived through that crime and most everyone understands that two young males took it upon themselves to shoot up their school. That's right, they did it, and no weapon they used had any responsibility for doing it. The fact was they broke the law to get the weapons and no laws would have prevented them from this act. So demonizing the gun and saying that it could be controlled and would have stopped this attack is like saying that we as humans don't need food to live because some are obese.

So stand by to read through the news and media attacks that are about to fall around us. None of it will help you make good and informed decisions this coming election.

Now, I'm just as worried when I read the more conservative news papers and web sites. I think if things go bad in 2004 we will see another civil war in America. This time it may be West Vs East. The reason is the damage that can be done to the West because of so much government controlled land. The enviros have forced the government to make many poor choices in over seeing this land. The people who live in the West have been damaged to the point that it is even affecting private property. That was one reason we started this nation of ours was for private property rights. Those rights and the fight for private property have been going on from the very beginning. This is especially true in the West.

In my many years in law enforcement I have witnessed untold fights over property lines and other property issues. It spans the gamut from homicide to fist fights. People take this as serious as they do anything that affects them. I have also helped friends who were harassed by a bad neighbor called the government. All because of the government's attempt to take property that cannot legally or constitutionally be under their control. The government is considered the worst neighbor you can have in the West, with good cause. I do know that with all the land use laws that have been put in place over the last few years, we the people are no longer in control of our property. These laws also allow others to harass property owners and they can do it legally through the government and courts. This can only lead to frustration, which leads to violence.

Now we have two issues that affect many people all at once. One is the use of "government land" for grazing and other things like logging and recreational uses. Then the topper to it all is the battle over something that is very precious to all humanity, water. This may be the straw that broke the camels back in this pending war between the states. The government wants to control it, and the enviro types want to force the government not let anyone use it. They are using every un-Constitutional law they have shoved down our throat to stop this use. When that fails they go to the court system until they find a judge who agrees with them.

Now you see why I'm worried. I believe we are headed for one big blood bath in this nation. One that may divide this nation and cause harm that will never be repaired just like the last civil war. I do know that our enemies are sitting back licking their chops, just waiting for this to happen. Our only chance is to elect people to office who will return our rights and freedoms to us and down size government. If this doesn't happen and we go the other way it will be war like we have never seen before. I pray to God that doesn't happen.

God Bless America.
God Bless our troops, still in harms way.

Michael E. Cook, Coos County Sheriff, Retired.
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Well done Sheriff.

by Ziegler Friday, Jul. 18, 2003 at 5:15 PM

Making people afraid in advance comes really handy to justify future oppression, isn't it?
What are you afraid of exactly? People practicing dissent?

"The liberal main stream media will be putting out about as much false and misleading information as they can. "
I see you have a problem with others infringing on a conservative press patent. It is about time you taste your own medicine. Cheers!

Conservatives must be really desperate to accuse others oftheir own sins.

Enjoy your retirement, Sheriff. And store that Bible away from the shotgun, they don't mix well together.

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Clearly delusional

by matt Friday, Jul. 18, 2003 at 6:50 PM

Not to detract from the very real environmental concerns of polution, global warming, and international water rights, if this man thinks the most pressing premise for a uprising is "environmental concerns" (ie, he wants to clearcut and the gov wont let him), he is clearly suffering serious delusions.

But that should be obvious from his pitched attack at media fearmongering in regards to automatic weapons, but notice a complete lack of acknowledgement of the exact same behavior used to put our troops (the ones he says he supports) in harms way (Saddam could come nuke your daddy and rape your momma in half an hour or less!).

Also, perhaps my understanding of the water rights movement is limited, but I have always interpretted the bulk of the problem there to lie in foriegn water supplies and the control of them. Dams on the nile and its tributaries, etc. From my understanding, locally our biggest water concern is keeping it clean. Is Mr. Cook suggesting american A might shoot american B so that american Z might polute our rivers with industrial waste without being hampered by pesky laws and regulations?

And does he honestly expect the matter to become polarized to a mere 'East Vs West'?!? Mr Cook, if you're reading this now, know this, we, the malcontents, the ones who just might shoot you if we get pushed much farther, are everywhere, worldwide, and in your neck of the woods, and we're fed up with so many aspects of modern existence it would be folly to list them all off. US Foreign Policy, Government Corruption, War, Poverty, Media Manipulation, Classism, Rascism... it just goes on and on. And its all a by product of, or a tool of, corporate corruption. It all boils down to the big money corps that have lost all connection with humanity, and care nothing about anything other than the bottom line. You can call it an oversimplification if you'd like, a piece of a larger problem if you're smarter than that, or an outright lie if you're not, but whatever your response may be I think its clearly the truth, everyone knows it and has for a while now.

Now before the shills out there start warming up the you-damn-dirty-commie drum, consider that I am not anti capitalism, neccessarily, I'm anti immoral capitalism. To which you would probably accuse me of attempting to bloat our government to enforce such 'morality'. Whatever. It wouldn't really be that hard though, I suspect. Primarily because the world is now seeing the result of immoral capitalism, including the USA... we locals have been blinded to it for a long time but we're beginning to see. So most people will shy against the corporate-raider-80s-era-reaganomic-fuck-the-world strategy because we know (now) where it leads. But for those who would forget, we will find use for the jails that will soon be emptied. Yes, the police state / justice-as-a-profitable-institution / slave labor is a big problem today and it will be addressed early and thoroughly, and a lot of innocent people will see the light of freedom again. And we shall fill a few of their cells up with corrupt CEO's, washington lobbists, corrupt politicians/government personal, and corrupt law enforcement personel.

How it all unfolds is uncertain. We would like our concerns addressed peacibly (but thoroughly, and quickly). It has already become clear that if otherwise is the only available venue for change, well, some of us still remember who we were given the right to bear arms against, and why. And we're east, west, midwest, everywhere. Hell we could be up your ass right now and you wouldn't know.

Thinly vieled attempts to NFL-ize a revolution will always be recognized immediately for what they are. This is not the first attempt at as much, will not be the last, and is no exception. Oppressor Handbook Play #1: Divide and Conquer
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retired

by White Guy Friday, Jul. 18, 2003 at 9:25 PM

sure thankful he's retired.

sounds like he would like to be the judge as well as the gun.

scary....
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God bless the separation of Church and State.
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sincerely,
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Really Fat White Guy
(rhymes with *Power of Pride*, the popular bumper sticker for wackos)
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