Korea-US drifting towards war

By Steve Gilliard

U.S., N. Korea Drifting Toward War, Perry Warns
Former Defense Secretary Says Standoff Increases Risk of Terrorists Obtaining Nuclear Device

By Thomas E. Ricks and Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, July 15, 2003; Page A14


Former defense secretary William Perry warned that the United States and North Korea are drifting toward war, perhaps as early as this year, in an increasingly dangerous standoff that also could result in terrorists being able to purchase a North Korean nuclear device and plant it in a U.S. city.

"I think we are losing control" of the situation, said Perry, who believes North Korea soon will have enough nuclear warheads to begin exploding them in tests and exporting them to terrorists and other U.S. adversaries. "The nuclear program now underway in North Korea poses an imminent danger of nuclear weapons being detonated in American cities," he said in an interview.

Perry added that he reached his conclusions after extensive conversations with senior Bush administration officials, South Korean President Roh Moo Hyun and senior officials in China.

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From his discussions, Perry has concluded the president simply won't enter into genuine talks with Pyongyang's Stalinist government. "My theory is the reason we don't have a policy on this, and we aren't negotiating, is the president himself," Perry said. "I think he has come to the conclusion that Kim Jong Il is evil and loathsome and it is immoral to negotiate with him."

From faith-based intelligence to faith-based foreign relations.
Posted July 15, 2003 10:04 AM
© 2002. Steal all you want.
http://www.dailykos.com/archives/003404.html#003404

"I don't care how many nuclear devices North Korea is claimed to have, they are not going to attack the United States with them unless the US attacks first. North Korea knows full well that the US has a nuclear deterrent able to turn all of North Korea into a green glass parking lot. It is the US which wants another war to distract from the disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan, to distract from the lies that launched those wars, and a war that Bush can hammer as an election-year campaign issue."

The development and control of "front" (or façade) organizations is carried out through subjective internal control at group meetings of "inside cadres," and the calculations of the time for the fusion of these combined efforts to be applied to the masses.

Established citizens–doctors, lawyers, businessmen, teachers, etc.–will be recruited initially as "Social Crusaders" in typically "innocuous" movements in the area of operations. When their "involvement" with the clandestine organization is revealed to them, this supplies the psychological pressure to use them as "inside cadres" in groups to which they already belong or of which they can be members.

Then they will receive instruction in techniques of persuasion over control of groups to support our democratic revolution, through a gradual and skillful process a cell control system isolates individuals from one another, and at the appropriate moment, their influence is used for the fusion of groups in a united national front.

As Cloak and Dagger suggests, the over-hyped North Korean threat is just another excuse to create a war to distract Americans from what some already know and others are finally learning; that the Bush Administration is criminally guilty of lying to the public about the Iraqi threat and has now
subjected our soldiers to eminent danger for nothing.

The heat is on because when TIME magazine starts to suggest that Bush is full of shit (the recent "UNTRUTH and CONSEQUENCES" cover story) you know it going down. What is
frightening is what the war mongerers are capable of to
cover their ass. They already massacred two countries, who is
to say they wouldn't risk a nuclear war.

Bush has already allowed Saudi terrorists to attack the US. 911 occurred at a convenient time when issues were being
raised about his stolen election, who is to say he wouldn't allow the CIA or whoever to detonate a nuclear device (which will be blamed on N. Korea) just to construct another threat and avoid his downfall (which is coming on like Jesus).

The fact that these f$%kers won't even enter into a dialogue
with the N. Korean government is a give-away. They used
the same tactic with Iraq and Afghanistan.

BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW

IMPEACH BUSH NOW BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY

SAVE AMERICA

The individual political awareness of the guerrilla, the reason for his struggle, will be as important as his ability in combat. This political awareness and motivation will be achieved:

*By improving the combat potential of the guerrilla by improving his motivation for fighting.

*By the guerrilla recognizing himself as a vital tie between the democratic guerrillas and the people, whose support is essential for the subsistence of both.

*By fostering the support of the population for the national insurgence through the support for the guerrillas of the locale, which provides a psychological basis in the population for politics after the victory has been achieved.

*By developing trust in the guerrillas and in the population, for the reconstruction of a local and national government.

*By promoting the value of participation by the guerrillas and the people in the civic affairs of the insurrection and in the national programs.

*By developing in each guerrilla the ability of persuasion face-to-face, at the local level, to win the support of the population, which is essential for success in guerrilla warfare.

Isn't this a thinly disguised call for assassination and an attempt to get other posters to say the same kind of thing, Mr.Cop/Troll/Provocateur? So Ashcroft and his flunkies will have an excuse to move against IMC?

the reality is less exciting. 'Sansculotte' is pasting text from other sources. copy a sentence and paste it into a google search and see what you come up with.

as far as i can tell - la-imc is only POTENTIALLY a serious threat to the established order. my guess is that LA-IMC has less constructive effect than it did when it began a few years ago. this slow drift into irrelevance was not at ALL inevitable in my opinion.

la-imc needs to give contributors the power to avoid this waste of energy. constructive proposals that are consistent with LA-IMC's pose of anti-authoritarianism have been made.


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anticrisis

What do you think about the seemingly violence-related title he gave to it, expecially when it relates to a text that talks about practicing guerilla warfare, even if the material is pasted?

We fight a propaganda based war against corporate globablism and capitalism on IMC ever day. There's nothing wrong with what Sanscolote is writing.

They are probally lying to us about the nuclear warheads in north korea also.
Why can the US have bombs, but norht korea cant?

You may think that there is nothing wrong with someone posting messages that state that it would be for the best that US troops stay in Iraq and get killed because this would favor the cause of revolution. Or that hint that a violent ("forcible") removal of Bush from office - which could only be done through assassination - would be a good deed for someone to carry out. I smell a provocateur.