Democrats are wrong on taxes

Isabel Lyman, Daily Hampshire Gazette

Thursday, July 10, 2003 -- There once was a Democrat named John F. Kennedy, who had sensible economic ideas. In the early '60s, he noted that "an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget, just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits."

In the years following President Kennedy's proposed tax cuts, the U.S. economy grew at a healthy rate of more than 5 percent annually. The days of Camelot are long over. Now the citizenry is stuck with JFK's relatives and sycophants.

Take Patrick J. Kennedy. The Rhode Island congressman brought the notion of taxation with representation to a new low. The Washington Post reported June 27 that Kennedy told a gathering of young Democrats, "I don't need Bush's tax cut. I have never worked a [expletive deleted] day in my life." Get Pat a ditch-digging gig, and wash his mouth with soap.

Meanwhile, our man in Washington D.C. - Congressman John W. Olver - appears to have imbibed too much Karl Marx. He criticized President George W. Bush's tax relief plan because it disproportionately benefits the wealthy. Or, as he puts it, "Tax cuts are stripping the capacity of government to provide services to people."

Democrats sound so noble when they champion government services. Well, let them, and their ilk, act nobly. Let them pool their economic and material resources to help "the people" build a Welfare State while subverting the Constitution. The rest of us can then declare the current system of taxation (read: legal plunder) as oppressive.

One of the complaints in the Declaration of Independence, against the British crown, was about "imposing Taxes on us without our Consent." What would the Declaration's signers think about the approximately 40 percent in taxes that many contemporary Americans passively pay? Now about Olver's comment that the Bush tax plan favors the wealthy - well, yeah.

As James Miller, who teaches economics at Smith College, logically explains, "Since the rich pay most of the taxes, you would expect them to receive the greatest savings from nearly any tax cut." Adds Ken Robinson, a tax-code savvy attorney from Ware, "Ergo, the rich should receive the most tax relief, since they pay the most."

In 2000, the Internal Revenue Service reveals that those with incomes in the top 5 percent paid more than 56 percent of all taxes, while the top 1 percent - those earning 3,469 and above - paid 37 percent of all taxes. However, those in the bottom half - earning less than ,682 a year - paid less than 4 percent in income taxes.

Can anybody say flat tax?

Making lots of money remains one of the top reasons that poor immigrants trek to the United States. The Declaration's signers were hardly destitute men if they pledged their "fortunes" to the cause of liberty. And, in a shaky economy, with growing unemployment, to monetarily penalize the play-by-the-rules wealthy with higher taxes amounts to voodoo economics. Here is my two-cents worth why.

First, millionaires and billionaires create choices for the rest of us. Their venture capitalism and big-ticket purchases produce jobs. The well-off also contribute to charities and churches, advance the arts and sciences, entertain and inform us, and take risks. Thanks to Ms. Moneybags Oprah Winfrey and her book club, less-known authors have prospered and found fame. Contributing 0 million, billionaires John T. Walton and Theodore J. Forstmann have assisted tens of thousands of low-income students through their Children's Scholarship Fund, which provides partial private-school vouchers.

Lew Rockwell, the prominent libertarian, notes, "[T]he prosperity of everyone in a market economy depends in good part on the rich. The capital they have earned and saved generates investments ... Their savings keep interest rates low. Their actions are philanthropic in every sense."

Second, constantly portraying the rich as evil villains sometimes causes them to flee. Forbes has reported that among the prosperous who have renounced their American citizenship are John Dorrance III, a Campbell Soup heir; Ted Arison, the Carnival Cruise Lines founder; and industrialist Michael Dingman.

Their reasons for becoming expatriates vary from wanting to protect their heirs from crushing inheritance taxes to a frustration with the changing tax code to annoyance at seeing their hard-earned dollars carelessly redistributed by the likes of John Olver. They have moved to islands like the Bahamas and St. Kitts to live in luxury and peace and to freely manage benevolent foundations. Our loss.

It's no mystery why Democratic lawmakers belittle the rich and tax cuts which also benefit the middle-classes. Demagoguery works. Stirring class envy earns votes, grows government to gargantuan proportions, and furthers cronyism. In this thoughtless scramble for power, the economic legacy, left by leaders like John Hancock and John F. Kennedy, has been regrettably squandered.

1) the K per year income earners on down class pay MORE in taxes than the top percent because taxes include far more than just income taxes; the neoconservative and conservative liars would like you to think we have a progressive tax system;

2) the calls for flat tax will increase over the next decade because it's part of the neoconservative strategy to have a planned fiscal train wreck that forces the reduction of government. The flat tax will do away with the only part of our tax system that even tries to be progressive -- income tax as we know it. It's a head-fake. All the other taxes like sales taxes (or a newly introduced value added tax) will be extremely regressive. This is all about the rich getting richer, and the middle class getting less in way of services and doing away with a Commonwealth vision to an individualistic vision.

Most conservatives absolutely love Teddy Roosevelt. Well, if you folks had any idea what he'd say about you, you'd piss in your pants. You're not conservatives. You're radicals.

The other point that these fake conservatives toss out the window is that JFK's tax cut was a progressive tax cut, stuffing a ton of money into the middle class and poor as well as the rich. There's a friggin huge difference. That kind of tax cut actually is spent more in consumption because the poor and middle class, by definition, spend most of their income (or in this case, tax credit) on consumption.

These two-bit newspaper columnists and neo-conservative (reactionary) and conservative pundits *NEVER* bring up this fact and totally distort history. JFK would have called Bush's tax cut a failed economic plan.

...with their childish fantasy that wealthy philanthropists will balance the inequities of the poor an needy.

'Lew Rockwell, the prominent libertarian, notes, "[T]he prosperity of everyone in a market economy depends in good part on the rich. The capital they have earned and saved generates investments ... Their savings keep interest rates low. Their actions are philanthropic in every sense."'

Right, the rich run the economy and everyone else should be grateful. Okay Scrooge, see you in hell.

I stand corrected. She's more of a libertarian dreamer. But her particular lies about Kennedy are the stock and trade of neo-cons and cons more often than not.

thanks for the post

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“The Rich Ruleth Over The Poor, And The Borrower Is Servant To The Lender.” Proverbs 22, Verse 7

“Bank Paper must be suppressed, and the circulation restored to the nation to whom it belongs. The power to issue money should be taken from the banks and restored to congress and the people. I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. Put down the banks, and if this country could not be carried through the longest war against her most powerful enemy without ever knowing the want of a dollar, without dependence upon that traitorous class of her citizens, without bearing hard upon the resources of the people or loading the public with an indefinite burden of debt, I know nothing of my countrymen.”

Thomas Jefferson

Americas government has been taken over by International Organized Crime. Great collusion between two parties who are supposedly opposed is evident, and this supposed opposition, this DRAMATIC fight, has been used by organized crimes leaders, through the media they own, to fool the American people into believing they actually possess a choice. To fool the American people into believing that there really are such things as free elections here in this old USA. Never before has a more insidious plan been instituted, because never before has a plan needed to be so insidious. Thomas Jefferson and the other drafters of Americas Founding Documents knew very well what would happen eventually, if the people were ever led away from vigilance. A good book to read about this takeover of America by International Organize Crime is called “The Coming Battle”, by M.W. Walbert, and it can be found in electronic format online in many places. It is pure prophecy folks, and spells out in no uncertain terms what is happening today. It was written in the late 1800’s. It highlights how certain interests here in America have used the powers entrusted to them by the people, to sell the people out to foreign interests and currency controllers. This is how America has been taken over. From Within.

One of the leading groups to aid these foreign interests in their takeover of America is the bush crime family. By reading Barry and The Boys: The CIA, The Mob, and Americas Secret History, you can see that the bush crime family will do just about ANYTHING to procure their own wealth, and to keep their international masters happy. They are still in power. They have used their government ties to make themselves wealthy, to create perfect invisibility for themselves through creation and exploitation of the CIA and other illegal law enforcement agencys, and they have made many deals with international financiers which, strictly speaking, have led to the selling of America. The younger political members of the bush crime family actually trace their lineage back to the house of David, through their mothers ancestry, and their allegiance is not to the people, or to America, but to their so-called Royal House.

The bush crime family believes that America needs a King. To this end they have intermarried with world royalty and fostered belief in a very perverted form of Christianity which is so lost it cannot see reality because of the blinders it wears, said blinders imposed by their churches (Controlled through projects monarch, paperclip, and mkultra out of huntsville alabama) who have assured them their king is arriving any day now. “ITS ALL ABOUT JESUS” they and their church signs say. No, its not. Its all about MONEY, and the people that these “Christians” habitually elevate to positions of power know this, and thats why so much of the taxpayers product has been used to perp such ignorance on the mass. Stupid people are easier to control. Christianity is Judaism for the SLAVE CLASS.

Here is a good example of what I am talking about:

From the Book “The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception”, Michael Baigent, Richard Lee

Another anomaly that emerges in fresh light (From true interpretation of the Dead Sea Scrolls) concerns the fortress of Masada, and the character and mentality of its tenacious defenders. When the holy land rose in revolt (Against the romans) in AD66, Masada was one of the first strongholds to be seized -- by Menahem, the son or grandson of Judas of Galilee, founder of the “Zealots” (to which many members of Rabbi Yeshua ben Miriams earliest followers belonged). Perched high on a sheer sided mountain overlooking the southwestern shore of the dead sea, some thirty miles below Qumran, the place became the zealots/rebels most important bastion against the Romans, the supreme symbol and embodiment of resistance. Long after this resistance had collapsed elsewhere, Masada continued to hold out. Jerusalem, for example, was occupied and razed within two years of the insurrections outbreak -- in AD68. Masada remained impregnable though, until ad 74. From within its walls some 960 defenders withstood repeated assaults and a full scale siege by a Roman army estimated to have numbered fifteen thousand.

Despite the tenacity of this resistance, Masadas position by the Spring of AD74, had become hopeless. Cut off from reinforcement, entirely circled by Roman troops, the garrison no longer had any prospect of withstanding a general assault.....The garrison, under the command of Eleazar ben Jair, came to their own decision. The men Killed their wives and Children. Ten men were chosen to kill their comrades. Having done so they proceeded to draw lots, choosing one to dispatch the remaining nine. After this was done he set fire to the buildings in the fortress and killed himself. Altogether 960 men women and children perished in this “Mass Suicide”. When the Romans finally burst through the gate the following morning, they found only corpses amid the ruins.”

Most Americans will ask at this point, “Well? What does this have to do with the criminals who have taken over our government, our currency, and the general state of affairs here?” Good question. What I am telling you is that you are in a fight between two ROYAL (UNAMERICAN) groups who have not only been using you as pawns, but play games with your lives and the lives of children so that not only do you FINANCE this fight, but they are able to steal you blind, and receive REPARATION from you for the imagined past sins of your ancestors.

Because, dear American friends, the date that the Romans overtook the fortress of Masada is indelibly written in every mind of America, and cannot be forgotten. You see, the date in AD74 when the romans finally burst through the walls of the zealot stronghold was.....April 15th.

Remove the international powers from America. Abolish the Federal Reserve. Vote Libertarian.

bg

The ideas of libertarians are easily shot down in flames. These people are fucking morons!

http://world.std.com/~mhuben/leftlib.html

"From each according to their gullibilty, to each according to their greed."

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

This is the way to a better world.

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