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by C/O Diogenes
Monday, Jul. 07, 2003 at 8:17 AM
I'll concede that having a permanent war might seem an odd thing to want, but let's put aside the "why" question for the time being, accepting that you wouldn't want it unless you stood to gain something important from it. If, however, for reasons you found adequate, you did want to have a permanent war, what would you need in order to make such a policy viable in a democratic society such as the United States?
The battle on terrorism is an excuse to make fighting permanent Robert Higgs Sunday, July 6, 2003 ©2003 San Francisco Chronicle | Feedback URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/07/06/IN245802.DTL I'll concede that having a permanent war might seem an odd thing to want, but let's put aside the "why" question for the time being, accepting that you wouldn't want it unless you stood to gain something important from it. If, however, for reasons you found adequate, you did want to have a permanent war, what would you need in order to make such a policy viable in a democratic society such as the United States? First, you would need that society to have a dominant ideology -- a widely shared belief system about social and political relations -- within which having a permanent war seems to be a desirable policy, given the ideology's own content and the pertinent facts accepted by its adherents. Something like American jingo-patriotism cum anti-communism might turn the trick. It worked pretty well during the nearly half-century of the Cold War. The beauty of anti-communism as a covering ideology was that it could serve to justify a wide variety of politically expedient actions both here and abroad. The Commies, you'll recall, were everywhere: not just in Moscow and Sevastopol, but maybe in Minneapolis and San Francisco. We had to stay alert; we could never let down our guard, anywhere. Second, you would need periodic crises, because without them the public becomes complacent, unafraid, and hence unwilling to bear the heavy burdens that they must bear if the government is to carry on a permanent war. As Sen. Arthur Vandenberg told Harry Truman in 1947 at the outset of the Cold War, gaining public support for a perpetual global campaign requires that the government "scare hell out of the American people." Each crisis piques the people's insecurities and renders them once again disposed to pay the designated price, whether it takes the form of their treasure, their liberties or their young people's blood. Something like the (alleged) missile gap, the (alleged) Gulf of Tonkin attacks on U.S. naval vessels, or the (actual!) hostage-taking at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran will do nicely, at least for a while. Crises by their very nature eventually recede, and new ones must come along -- or be made to come along -- to serve the current need. Third, you would need some politically powerful groups whose members stand to gain substantially from a permanent war in terms of achieving their urgent personal and group objectives. Call me crass, but I've noticed that few people will stay engaged for long unless there's "something in it for them." During the Cold War, the conglomeration of personally interested parties consisted of those who form the military-industrial-congressional complex. The generals and admirals thrived by commanding a large armed force sustained by a lavish budget. The big defense contractors enjoyed ample returns at minimal risk (because they could expect that, should they screw up too royally, a bailout would be forthcoming). Members of Congress who belonged to the military oversight and appropriations committees could parlay their positions into campaign contributions and various sorts of income in kind. Presiding over the entire complex, of course, the president, his National Security Council, and their many subordinates, advisers, consultants, and hangers-on enjoyed the political advantages associated with control of a great nation's diplomatic and military affairs -- not to speak of the sheer joy that certain people get from wielding or influencing great power. No conspiracy here, of course, just a lot of people fitting into their niches, doing well while proclaiming that they were doing good (recall the ideology and the crisis elements). All seeking only to serve the common public interest. Absolutely. The foregoing observations have been widely accepted by several generations of students of the Cold War. Yet now, you may protest, the Cold War is over, the USSR nonexistent, the menace of communism kaput. Under post-Cold War conditions, how can we have a permanent war? Well, all we need to do is to replace the missing piece. If the ideology of anti-communism can no longer serve to justify a permanent war, let us put in its place the overarching rationale of a "war on terrorism." In fact, this substitution of what President Bush repeatedly calls "a new kind of war" amounts to an improvement for the leading actors, because whereas the Cold War could not be sustained once the USSR had imploded and international communism had toppled into the dustbin of history, a war on terrorism, with all its associated benefits, can go on forever. After all, so long as the president says he has intelligence information to the effect that "they" are still out there conspiring to kill us all, who are we to dispute that the threat exists and must be met? The smoke had scarcely cleared at Ground Zero when Vice President Dick Cheney declared on Oct. 19, 2001, that the war on terrorism "may never end. It's the new normalcy." Just as during the Cold War hardly any American ever laid eyes on an honest- to-God Commie, although nearly everybody believed that the Commies were lurking far and wide, so now we may all suppose that anyone, anywhere might be a lethal terrorist in possession of a suitcase nuke or a jug of anthrax spores. Indeed, current airport-security measures are premised on precisely such a belief -- otherwise it makes no sense to strip-search Grandma at Dulles International Airport. Potential terrorists are "out there," no doubt, in the wonderful world of Islam, an arc that stretches from Morocco across North Africa, the Middle East, and Southwest Asia to Malaysia, Indonesia and Mindanao, not to mention London, Amsterdam and Hamburg. And that's good, because it means that U.S. leaders must bring the entire outside world into compliance with their stipulated rules of engagement for the war on terrorism. It's a fine thing to dominate the world, an even finer thing to do so righteously. Better yet, the potential omnipresence of the terrorists justifies U.S. leaders in their efforts to supercharge the surveillance-and-police state here at home, with the USA Patriot Act, the revival of the FBI's COINTELPRO activities, and all the rest. Adios, Bill of Rights. The merest babe should understand that these new powers will be turned to other political purposes that have nothing whatever to do with terrorism. Indeed, they have been already. As the New York Times reported on May 5, "The Justice Department has begun using its expanded counterterrorism powers to seize millions of dollars from foreign banks that do business in the United States" and "most of the seizures have involved fraud and money-laundering investigations unrelated to terrorism." The war-on-terrorism rationale has proved congenial to the American public, who have swallowed bogus government assurances that the so-called war is making them more secure. Much of this acceptance springs, no doubt, from the shock that many Americans experienced when the terrorist attacks of September 11 proved so devastating. Ever alert, the president's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, asked the National Security Council immediately afterward "to think seriously about "how you capitalize on these opportunities" to fundamentally change American doctrine and the shape of the world in the wake of September 11. The president's most powerful and influential subordinates -- Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and their coterie -- then set in motion a series of actions (and a flood of disinformation) to seize the day, measures that culminated in the military invasion and conquest first of Afghanistan and then of Iraq, among many other things. Likewise, the military component of the military-industrial complex has entered into fat city. During fiscal year 2000, before Bush had taken office, Department of Defense outlays amounted to $281 billion. Just four years later, assuming that Congress gives the president what he has requested for fiscal year 2004, the department's budget will be at least $399 billion -- an increase of 42 percent. No wonder the generals and admirals are dancing in the corridors at the Pentagon: all this loot, and wartime citations and promotions to boot! The flush times for the officer corps have spilled over handsomely onto the big arms contractors, whose share prices have been bucking the trend of the continuing stock-market meltdown nicely during the past couple of years. With only a single exception, all the major weapons systems have survived funding threats, and their manufacturers can look forward to decades of well-paid repose as they supply models B, C, D, and so forth, as well as all the remunerative maintenance and repairs, operational training, software upgrades, and related goods and services for their Cold War-type weaponry in search of an suitable enemy. In the immortal words of Boeing vice president Harry Stonecipher, "The purse is now open." Amid the all-around rejoicing, however, the power elite appreciate that nearly two years have elapsed since Sept. 11, 2001, and the public's panic has begun to subside. That won't do. Accordingly, earlier this month, the government released a report that there is a "high probability" of an al Qaeda attack with a weapon of mass destruction in the next two years. So there you have it: The war on terrorism -- the new permanent war -- is a winner. The president loves it. The military brass loves it. The bigwigs at Boeing and Lockheed love it. We all love it. Except, perhaps, that odd citizen who wonders whether, all things considered, having a permanent war is truly a good idea for the beleaguered U. S. economy and for the liberties of the American people. Robert Higgs is senior fellow at the Independent Institute. His books include "Crisis and Leviathan" and "Arms, Politics and the Economy." ©2003 San Francisco Chronicle
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by Thumper
Monday, Jul. 07, 2003 at 8:19 AM
Plaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Ballllllllllllllllll!
Let's see how long it takes one of those sick Bastard Trolls to Jump on this one.
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by You don't know who I am.
Monday, Jul. 07, 2003 at 10:43 AM
I find myself in agreement with the lead on this thread. When will the next terrorist incident occur? It's not like we are not asking for it. It seems to me that our foreign policies are crafted to produce one. The people of Germany thought themselves to be immune from retribution also. It took a few years to awaken them to the hard facts at the price they weren't ready to pay.
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by FMR G.I.
Monday, Jul. 07, 2003 at 11:06 AM
but who is this we you talk of? You sound like you actually ever heard a shot fired in anger. I think from reading the blustering bravado you present that the fireworks on the 4th was the closest you have ever come to hearing the slam of H.E. or the screams of wounded.
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by FMR G.I.
Monday, Jul. 07, 2003 at 11:13 AM
My previous comment was directed towards Bush Admirer. Zapping his rants I see. Anyway, it occurs to me that the loudest of the pro-war boneheads are the least likely to have ever been under hostile fire. Witnessed their comrads die or have tasted the bile of real terror for reasons that never made sense.
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by BushAdmirer
Monday, Jul. 07, 2003 at 11:21 AM
The author of that piece, Robert Higgs is both an idiot and a jerk. He ought to be relocated to Haiti at the first opportunity. He doesn't deserve to enjoy the freedoms and advantages of our capitalistic society here in America. Kick the bastard out.
We're not war mongers, and we're not interested in a permanent war. That would include GW Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld.
But if the Muslim terrorists bastards insist, then bring it on. We will kick there ass wherever and whenever they choose to stand and fight.
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by BA
Monday, Jul. 07, 2003 at 11:23 AM
I see that the LA IMC Thought police have started deleting my posts again. So much for free speech. So much for open publishing.
Liberals are such twats. ____
The author of that piece, Robert Higgs is both an idiot and a jerk. He ought to be relocated to Haiti at the first opportunity. He doesn't deserve to enjoy the freedoms and advantages of our capitalistic society here in America. Kick the bastard out.
We're not war mongers, and we're not interested in a permanent war. That would include GW Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld.
But if the Muslim terrorists bastards insist, then bring it on. We will kick there ass wherever and whenever they choose to stand and fight.
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by Diogenes
Monday, Jul. 07, 2003 at 11:24 AM
...Bush Asskisser?
I'll help pack your Chute.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
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by Diogaynes
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 1:33 AM
If BA is Bush Asskisser, I guess that makes you Saddam's bitch, ahahhahaha.....ah.....
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by asdf
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 1:45 AM
Is that your point? Insulting someone like back in 3rd grade? Wow your a smart guy.
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by thanks, i am relatively smart
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 1:46 AM
Thanks for the comment, i agree all the way.
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by asdf
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 1:48 AM
why dont you go home and finish fucking your mother?
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by Hahaha, asdf, you crack me up
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 1:51 AM
Funny, but my mother is dead.....and i thought i was smart for engaging in 3rd grade antics, hmm.... PS Busy fucking your moms loose, smelly vagina, beating it up, if ya know what i mean, kinda boring, since its so loose and pourous like a whores ass.
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by asdf
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 1:53 AM
cuz i was cumming up her dead decrepet ass. Too bad the whore had a bastard like you. YOu were probally molested by your priest.
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by Um yeah, youre having a brother
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 1:55 AM
Its gonna look a lot like me, since i was the one who fucked your mom, but then again, a lotta people fuck your who....oops, i mean your mom, ahahahahha, cmon pussy, keep it on one thread.
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by lets move around
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 1:58 AM
dont be such a pussy fag. take any issue for debate. and ill shread your punk ignorant ass. ps tell your mom to quit changing lipstick colors im tired of having a rainbow on my cock.
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by Hahaha, take an issue, our mothers are "
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 2:00 AM
Wow, you really are a fucking queer arent you? Youre the one bringing up relatives and now you wanna sit down and have a reasonable debate, YOU FUCKING RETARD, go fuck yourself, dirty protester shitface, go fuck some french whores (like your mom)
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by bush admirer
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 2:07 AM
your dad was a queer. thats why mommy killed herself. ha ha
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by asdf, hmmm, this is getting kinda old
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 2:09 AM
kinda old......and wrinkled like your dads cock when you were blowing him, EWWW, i cant believe you like cock, especially youre dads cock, you have issues......:(
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by asdf
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 2:12 AM
she fucks like an old cum guzzling gutter slut. tell her to take the mattress off her back before she drops you off at high school ROFL
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by No, youre gay, shut up gayfer
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 2:15 AM
Hmm, naw, that was lame, but nice try, by the way, PLEASE type faster, i know blowing your dad is fun to you, but really i wanna continue our "debate"
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by intolerant fuck, no wonder more minorities...
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 2:22 AM
intolerant fuck, no wonder more minorities...are starting to join republicans cuz theyre tired of just being used for their votes, people like you give a bad name to liberals, bad fucking KKK tch tch......
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by Ahaha, white people only?
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 2:31 AM
Funny, cuz you guys turn a back to all our lovely illegal friends, get used to hispanics and minorities owning your bitch ass, cuz theyre here to stay, thanks to illegal loving liberals!
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by Well, its been fun, asdf
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 2:38 AM
Seriously, it was enjoyable, i hope you have ulcers whenever you think about how you got your ass beat on a stupid website. (and how you felt hurt when i brought up your dad raping and molesting you, must bring back a troubling past for you) Til we meet again, continue looking racist and stupid and keep up protesting, you leftists will never win another election that way....PEACE.
Sincerely, Raper of asdf's mom
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by Josef
Tuesday, Jul. 08, 2003 at 5:10 PM
I love it, it's just killing me!
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by moron
Wednesday, Jul. 09, 2003 at 1:39 AM
yup yup yup yup yup yup it is.
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