I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and home school dad. It troubled me that we rushed to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun as to who perpetrated Sept 11th.

Astute observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that “crashed” Sept 11. A list of names on a piece of paper is not evidence, but an autopsy by a pathologist is.

I undertook by FOIA request, to obtain that autopsy list of the people on Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon. You are invited to view it below. Guess what? Still no Arabs on the list. In my opinion, the monsters who planned this crime made a mistake by not including Arabic names on the original list to make the ruse seem more believable.

When airline disasters occur, airlines will routinely provide a manifest list for anxious families. You may have noticed that even before Sep 11th, airlines were pretty meticulous about getting an accurate headcount before takeoff. It seems very unlikely to me that FIVE Arabs sneaked onto a flight with weapons.

This is the list provided by American of the 56 passengers:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
On September 27th, the FBI published photos of the “hijackers” of Flight 77:
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/77.htm

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), does a miraculous job and identified nearly all the bodies on November 16th 2001. file:///C:/My%20Documents/AFIP%20ID's%20184%20of%20189.htm

The AFIP suggest these numbers:189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were “passengers” on the plane. The AA list only had 56 and the list just obtained has 58. They did not explain how they were able to tell “victims” bodies from “hijacker” bodies. In fact, from the beginning NO explanation has been given for the extra five suggested in news reports except that the FBI showed us the pictures to make up the difference, and that makes it so.

Now, being the trusting sort, I figured that the government would want to quickly dispel any rumors so we could get on with the chore of kicking Osama/Sadaam’s butt (weren’t these originally two different people?). It seemed simple to me. . .produce the names of all the bodies identified by the AFIP and compare it with the publicized list of passengers. So, I sent a FOIA request to the AFIP and asked for an expedited response. Fourteen months later, a few US soldiers dead, many Iraqi civilians pushing up daisies, and I finally get the list. Believe me that they weren’t a bit happy to give it up, and I really have no idea why they choose now to release it.
No Arabs wound up on the morgue slab. However, three ADDITIONAL people not listed by American Airline sneaked in. I have seen no explanation for these extras. I did give American the opportunity to “revise” their original list, but they have not responded.
The new names are: Robert Ploger, Zandra Ploger, and Sandra Teague. The AFIP claims that the only “passenger” body that they were not able to identify is the toddler, Dana Falkenberg, whose parents and young sister are on the list of those identified.

The satanic masterminds behind this caper may be feeling pretty smug about the perfect crime, but they have left a raft of clues tying these unfortunates together. Stay tuned for part two for a much closer look of the cast of characters on this ill-fated flight.

Autopsy List Flight 77 (below)

lnamefname
ambrosepaul
betruyeneneh
boothmary jane
brownbernard
burlingamecharles
calleysuzanne
caswellwilliam
charleboisdavid
clarksarah
cottomasia
debeuneurejames
dickensrodney
dillardeddie
drozchuck
edwardsbarbara
falkenbergcharles
falkenbergzoe
fergusonjames
flaggdarlene
flaggwilson
gabrielrichard
grayian
hallstanley
heidenbergermichelle
jackbryan
jacobysteven
judgeann
kellerchandler
kennedyyvonne
khannorma
kincaidkaren
leedong
lewisjennifer
lewiskenneth
mayrenee
menchacadora
newtonchristopher
olsonbarbara
ornedoruben
penningerrobert
plogerrobert
plogerzandra
raineslisa
reubentodd
sammartinojohn
simmonsdiane
simmonsgeorge
soppermari-rae
speismanrobert
steuerlenorma
taylorhilda
taylorleonard
teaguesandra
whittingtonleslie
yamnickyjohn
yanceyvicki
yangshuyin
zhengyuguag

See also:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/pentagon/pentagon.htm

Last updated 24/06/2003

Stop confusing us with facts; it might weaken our will to confront those nasty Third World bullies and terrorists who envy our sports bars and the Chrystal Cathedral. Not to mention Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire and best sellers by Ann Coulter.

...for those pesky cellphone calls from the planes and those meddlesome videotape confessions from bin laden and his minions.

Beyond that, nice try.


9-11. The day the Muslims hit us.

...for those pesky cellphone calls from the planes and those meddlesome videotape confessions from bin laden and his minions.

Beyond that, nice try.


9-11. The day the Muslims hit us.

911- The day the Israelis hit us and pinned it on the Arabs.

...the faked Cell Phone Calls and the Phony Videotapes?

The Muslims? All of them? Even if the official story is true, it must have been hard to fit those millions of people into four planes.

"...the faked Cell Phone Calls and the Phony Videotapes?"

I knew you'd bite.

You have absolutely no evidence that either of those assertions are true much less even suggested outside the realm of conspiracy theory internet sites.

Sorry. These lies will have to sleep for now.

Fresca, I notice that you have made no attempt to refute Dr. Olmsted's argument.

Patton LeMay - "We are told that the planes were flown by remote control, that explosives were placed in the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in order to ensure the destruction of the building, that a missile or a plane was flown by remote control into the Pentagon, that the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was also done by remote control, THAT THE FAMILIES WHO RECEIVED CELL PHONE CALLS PLACED BY LOVED ONES ON BOARD THE PLANES DESCRIBING HIJACKERS ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MANIPULATED INTO TELLING LIES,...."

Diogenes - "Do you mean the faked Cell Phone Calls ....?"

Keep following the script of the leftist/anarchist best seller "How To Attempt To Destroy Capitalism For Dummies". Chapter 2 deals with formulating lies and sticking with it.

Well, brigg, let's see you refute Dr. Olmsted, since Fresca does not seem up to it. Where are the Arab names?

"Fresca, I notice that you have made no attempt to refute Dr. Olmsted's argument."

Fair enough.

The main mistake he makes is that he bases this notion on statistics and names of the victims on board the aircrafts. Do some searching. You'll find, more often than not, and certainly at the links he posted, that the hijackers are almost never counbted among the death toll numbers or within the lists of those victims on board the planes.

That is why no "arab sounding" names appear.

Refutation delivered.

Fresca, you make no sense. Try speaking out of your other end! Why did the Flight in PA get shot down by US fighters and then covered-up? Because the people on board took control of the plane from the hijackers and could have exposed the whole plot. And why no mention of reports that the hijackers had guns and knives on that plane? Blows the 'boxcutter theory' to pieces, huh?

Imagine this: Shrubco gets some patsies to 'jack the planes and tells 'em they are going to land in 'X' and everything will be OK. Meanwhile, software is used to comandeer control of the planes and direct them to their real destinations. Doublecross, GOP-style.

"Why did the Flight in PA get shot down by US fighters and then covered-up?"

Are you actually trying to float this tired old pearl of nonsense?
You truly are a deluded sycophant.

Who is paying you to rehash these inane, ham-fisted conspiracy halucinations?

You actually have NOTHING to say, do you?
Your entire worldview is formulated around the tidbits you copy and paste into your psyche from like minded cyber nuts.

Open your fucking eyes jackass. Quit giving up your mind so readily.

Uh! You're pathetic.

Oswald exclaimed in seemingly genuine surprise that he was set up as a "patsy" - fueling suspicions that he was told that he was involved in some operation to foil an assanitation attempt, test the readiness of the Secret Service, or something similar and then found himself charged with killing Kennedy. It is not at all impossible that hijackers of some sort - Arabs or Americans - were told that they were to seize the planes and force the pilots to fly to some unknown destination, then found the controls taken away from them by some ground control team - something which is indeed technologically possible. Who knows what happened next? That is why open hearings are needed.

"That is why open hearings are needed."

Fine. Have all the hearings you want.

But why do I have the sinking feeling that you won't be satisfied with any conclusions unless they somehow point to a US government conspiracy?

Are you actually willing to say that if these hearings verify what the majority of the planet knows to be true, that muslim terrorists hijacked 4 jets and crashed them, is correct, then you will end your fantasy?

I sincerely doubt it. You'll maintain that the hearings where rigged. Any evidnce that proves you wrong is turned around and used by you as evidence of a coverup.

Tell me I'm wrong

You're wrong.

BUSH LIED, AND CHILDREN DIED.

I'm also a moron.

I am Dr Smith, a practicing pediatrican in Des Moines. I have a wife and two kids and enjoy restoring Model T's and taking the family to AAA baseball games.

I have analyzed the flight list that Dr Thomas R. Olmsted has listed and have concluded that the airlines have listed the victims of the crash and not the killers. In my experience, the names of the murderers are not always listed among the dead.

In my experience, you, sir, are a nincompoop.

But, what do I know. Not much, of that I'll assure you.

Please do not insult what little intelligence we are left with. Why wouldn't the hijackers be listed along with the names of the other passengers? We are all untimately victims of the US fascists government who wish to have us all under their boots.

We pulled off the most complicated conspiracy in history and have everybody fooled (except for the geniuses on indymedia) -- then we totally screw it up.

While typing out the flight list for #77, we forgot to put the Arab's names on it. Doh!

...willing to say that if these hearings verify what the majority of the planet knows to be true, that muslim terrorists hijacked 4 jets and crashed them, is correct, then you will end your fantasy?"

Actually, the majority of the planet does not believe that story. US Americans are the only ones unequivocally sold on that magical muslim tale.

I am Sir Ian and Take The Red Pill. Here's more info about me.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/06/67656_comment.php#67752

"Actually, the majority of the planet does not believe that story. US Americans are the only ones unequivocally sold on that magical muslim tale."

You're simply wrong. Virtually every "hotspot" and their resulting atrocities involve muslims. Damn near every one. 9-11 is simply yet another addition to a very long list. Short of some muslims themselves, there is scant debate worldwide as to the fact, supported by overwhelming evidence. that arab muslims attacjed us, AGAIN, on 9-11.

Try and prove otherwise. Even the hordes of anti-Americans don't believe your delusions.

Which 'hot spots' do you mean? South Africa under aparteid? Northern Ireland? Columbia?

How one person can ever speak for the 'world majority' is beyond me.

Take the Red Pill --Actually, the majority of the planet does not believe that story.--

BOC --How one person can ever speak for the 'world majority' is beyond me.--

No kidding!

Sorry about that. We lefty's constantly trip over our own words. It's a wonder I can breathe, and I couldn't were it not for this devise emplanted in my body. Forgive my stupidity.

I did not write that above. But if it brings you joy to recognize that neither I nor fresca speak for the world's population that's fine with me. I only wrote "the majority of the planet does not believe that story" to properly balance your groundless claim that "...the majority of the planet knows to be true, that muslim terrorists hijacked 4 jets and crashed them, is correct..." So Thanks fresca's claim has been successfully (self)contradicted.

fresca takes every Pro-Israeli Piece as Gospel.

fresca takes every Anti-Muslim Piece as Gospel.

"You're simply wrong. Virtually every "hotspot" and their resulting atrocities involve muslims. Damn near every one. 9-11 is simply yet another addition to a very long list. Short of some muslims themselves, there is scant debate worldwide as to the fact, supported by overwhelming evidence. that arab muslims attacjed us, AGAIN, on 9-11."

This is still a correct statement. Disprove it.

Good luck.

You're simply wrong and you've been refuted.

". I only wrote "the majority of the planet does not believe that story" to properly balance your groundless claim..."

Pretty good attempt as covering my ass, don't you think? When I wrote what I wrote above, I did not have what I claimed in mind. Hell, I don't even have a mind! "I only wrote..to properly balance..." HA HA! Sometimes I even laugh at myself. I couldn't do anything like that. I can't even connect leggos, much less two completely seperate thoughts.

fresca you win, I can't outsmart someone who can read my mind.

... terrorists, if any, had traveled under somebody else's name?
Although security not noticing somebody with Middle-Eastern traits trying to board under the name of Falkenberg would be comical...

What 'hot spots' are you talking about, Fresca? Come on now, don't wimp out like a Bush would. Name the incidents you reference and then I'll tear your argument to pieces. Oh yeah, I forgot. You don't deal in hard facts, only heresay, rumor, and sweeping generalizations!

Here's a quick list of places which are experiencing or have experienced violence or atrocities committed by Muslims in the past couple of years, SOLELY in the name of their religion.

Mind you, this is not akin to Northern Ireland where the conflict is socio-economic between the Irish who are predominately Catholic and British loyalists who are predominately Protestant or South African Apartheid which was had neither side fighting for religion. This list is purely a quick overview of "hotspots" which has religious intolerance on the part of Muslims as the primary cause of thye violence.

Algeria
Indonesia
Sudan
Israel
Kashmir
Virtually every Arab despotic state
Nigeria (Miss World Riots and Massacres)
Bombings in Saudi Arabia
Chechnya
South Africa ( http://search.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/12/08/p1s2.htm)
New York
Washington

Feel free to add your own.

Dear Jim Thanks for taking some time to think this through. When any list is produced in the heat of the moment mistakes can happen. My FOIA request was intended to get hard evidence of exactly who was on that flight. If the government was really interested in convincing us of the validity of their claim (that arabs did it) they would have produced the DNA (or other Pathology evidence) that there were actually arabs on that flight. For fourteen months (and many appeals by me to badger them) they finally gave up this list. These guys are worse than Clinton. Still no arabs. God bless. Tom Olmsted

the cellphone calls from the planes are just govt propaganda that you swallow because it's your job to parrot it.

evidence for those cellphlone calls:ZERO.

counterveidence: cellphone experts say cellphone calls are not possible at high altitude because roaming in rural areas would imply a change of company every minute or so - hence the need to call again - plus the connection would take 30/40 secs.

in sum:simply
not
possible.

I just saw faker/KOBE across the street watching me with binoculars!!! Does anybody have a straightjacket that I could borrow?

www.kobehq.com

you pathetic diversionary attempts only make you look like an obvious fool.die.

bottom line is that americans believe whatever bush tells them

iraq was never a threat until bush brought it up

Easy way to check was to contact AFIP and ask for their comments and whether or not they did identify any Arab bodies.

4 days later and they refusing to respond. Speaks volumes.

Fresca,

To keep at least a modicum of honesty, you must remove the following from your list;

Indonesia
Israel
Kashmir
Chechnya
South Africa
New York
Washington

By your own criteria, "solely" in the name of religion, it just is not the case. All others are also disputable, but those I have listed simply were not "solely" in the name of religion.