If you are one of the millions of Americans who recently canceled your subscription to the New York Times, you may not know that we are in the middle of a civil-liberties emergency. Apparently, in the weeks following the terrorist attack of 9-11, the FBI rounded up a lot of Muslim men who were in this country illegally. Not only that, but some were actually questioned.

These, my friends, were only some of the atrocities detailed in a "frank and blistering" report plastered all over the New York Times a few weeks ago. The report, released by the inspector general of the Department of Justice, was showcased on the front page of the Times; it was excerpted in the national section; and it was the subject of the lead editorial that day, somberly titled "The Abusive Detentions of Sept. 11."

The laboriously assembled report includes such shocking revelations as these:



"[T]he Sept. 11 attacks changed the way the department, particularly the FBI and the INS, responded when encountering aliens who were in violation of their immigration status."

"In other times, many of these aliens might not have been arrested or detained for these violations."

And in the searing words of the New York Times: "Had it not been for the attacks, 'most if not all' of the arrests would probably have never been pursued."

In other words, under Attorney General John Ashcroft, the FBI, the INS and the Department of Justice are so out of control that they have actually begun to enforce U.S. immigration laws.

Also according to the report, guards at a Brooklyn detention facility – weeks after the attack and within sight of ground zero – subjected illegal immigrant Muslim detainees to "physical and verbal abuse." As the Times described it, "Detainees reported being slammed against the wall, or being subjected to such verbal taunts as 'You're going to die here.'" To quote Tony Soprano: You don't say.

Does anyone at the Times even know any normal people?

The detainees are in this country illegally, their co-religionists had just slaughtered thousands of Americans, and the Times is dismayed, perplexed, angry and shocked that some of them may have been subjected to the sort of manhandling that occurs in the hallways of middle schools throughout the nation. Why, I'm subjected to physical and verbal abuse every time I go through an airport security check, and I'm a citizen.

After a bit of overheated fulminating, the Times editorial unleashed this whopper: "The inspector general's findings are particularly powerful because they come not from politicians or advocacy groups, but from a unit of the Bush administration itself." This is how the New York Times always prefaces its outrageous statements: "it is widely understood that ..."; "all learned men agree ..."; "all people of good will believe ..."

Not so fast. The report came from Inspector General Glenn Fine – a lingering, festering Clinton appointee.

As a rule of thumb, all career government bureaucrats are liberal Democrats. (Children in Republican families do not grow up yearning to work for the government someday.) Republican presidents come in, make a handful of appointments to each department, and then the career bureaucrats go about gleefully denouncing the Republicans while allowing themselves to described in the New York Times as "internal" whistleblowers.

This leads to a somewhat inconsistent pattern of "internal" reports. After Janet Reno gassed American citizens in Waco, Texas, leaving 80 dead, the Justice Department's internal report "found no mistakes by anybody at the Justice Department or the FBI," in the words of Newsweek magazine. Also, one searches Lexis-Nexis in vain for any mention of an internal report on Janet Reno's commando raid against a small Cuban boy in Miami whose mother died bringing him to freedom.

But when Clinton-appointee Fine discovered that, immediately after the 9-11 attack, Bush administration officials failed to inform the Muslim detainees "in a timely manner about the process for filing complaints about their treatment" – he produces an indignant report. (The guards should have told Fine that the illegal immigrants were liars, bimbos, "stalkers" or just wanted a book deal.)

Accustomed to the high ethical standards of the Clinton administration, one can certainly understand Fine's outrage upon learning that guards overseeing Muslim illegal aliens after 9-11 imposed "restrictive and inconsistent policies on telephone access for detainees." Indeed, there are unconfirmed reports that several illegal detainees were prevented from using the phone to cast their votes on "American Idol." So, it was pretty much like a week in Uday and Qusay's torture rooms.

"Instead of taking a few days as anticipated," the report says, "the clearance process took an average of 80 days, primarily because it was understaffed and not given sufficient priority by the FBI." That is pretty shocking when you consider how much time the FBI must have had on their hands immediately after 9-11. Some detainees were held so long that they had to drop out of U.S. flight schools altogether. FBI officials' explanation was that they were engaged in some mysterious project known only as "preventing the next terrorist attack on U.S. soil."

In a remark worthy of Inspector Clouseau, Fine's report says: "Department officials acknowledged to the inspector general's office that they realized soon after the roundups began 'that many in the group of Sept. 11 detainees were not connected to the attacks or terrorism.'" Indeed, the Clinton appointee's report repeatedly takes the FBI to task for failing to "distinguish" between illegal immigrants and terrorists. Wow. What a great idea. If the FBI would simply "distinguish" between the terrorists and everyone else, then they could just arrest all the terrorists! Why didn't anyone else think of that?

Remember this report by Clinton-appointee Glenn Fine the next time a liberal tells you a Democrat president would have done as good a job as Bush in fighting the war on terrorism.

Ann Coulter is everything one could want in a woman!

"As a rule of thumb, all career government bureaucrats are liberal Democrats. (Children in Republican families do not grow up yearning to work for the government someday.) Republican presidents come in, make a handful of appointments to each department, and then the career bureaucrats go about gleefully denouncing the Republicans while allowing themselves to described in the New York Times as "internal" whistleblowers"



I love when people rely on "rule of thumb" in order to create unfounded statements. This is complete BS. There is no data to back up this made up crap.

co-religionists??????

So basically she's just another biggot. shocker. Another biggoted republican? How rare.

In case you haven't noticed, we neocons don't believe in substantiating our allegations.

What's wrong, you don't understand the usage of the word?

And you don't need statistical documented datum in order to know that, in general, career government bureaucrats are liberal Democrats.

Just the same as that, in general, career college humanities professors are liberal democrats.

Just the same as that, in general anarchists and socialists are idiots.

No data necessary. All you need to do is to know a few.

Acquaintance can often be substituted for, and is most often times more reliable than, documented data or "statistical" evidence.

If you had any experience in dealing with, or knew any life-long government bureaucrats you'd know that Ms. Coulter is, once again, quite accurately representing the truth.

Well, Eric, everything you would want, maybe. Please speak for yourself. Some people might miss sensitivity to the plight of others, broadmindeness, rejection of corporate/sexist/suburbanite standards of physical attractiveness, a lack of xenophobia, a gentleness that leads to abhorrence of war, killing and violence, and the kind of class that would prevent someone from saying in public that "I would never go toe to toe with Hillary Clinton because she weighs three times as much as me." Sounds like you have pretty low standards.

Don't make me do it again, Meyer.

"sensitivity to the plight of others": Oh you mean like wanting to reinstate a mass grave digging tyrant to a recently liberated nation?

"rejection of corporate/sexist/suburbanite standards of physical attractiveness": You sound jealous to me.

And with that direct quote and all those keen little tid-bits you know about Ann, you sound like a Coulter groupie. Which is it Meyer? Love her or hate her, you just can't seem to stay away...

Someone is one desperate MF with a no standard in selection

of companionship.

You must be a real winner.

some liberal bulldike hippie.

Ah, nothing like resorting to homophobia, Eric - you have about as much class as your love object, or should I say lust object. Maybe I'll read her book when it comes out in paperback. I am not a cheapskate and I do buy hardback books when I want to read them right away - right now I am reading a new scholarly book on the USSR under Krushchev. But shell out a lot of dough for Coulter? No way.

You want to know about some attractive women - in every sense of the word? Try Ani DiFranco. Or Janeane

Garafalo. Or Susan Sarandon. Or Media Benjamin of the Green Party. Some of them are a little more age appropriate for me, anyway. Coulter reminds me of one of those snotty, plastic sorority snobs from my college days. Yuck.

Actually, Ann's books are pretty reasonably price. I think I paid for "Slandard" and it turned out to be a great read. Doesn't surprise me though that you're reading a book on the Soviet Union. You're an aspiring socialist/communist; that's right in character for someone like you. And those hippie/liberal chicks you like, sick. I mean Susan Sarandon, that's pretty disturbing in itself, but Ani DiFranco? You're obviously have a twisted she-male fetish of some sort. And Ann is only snotty to liberals, because she hates them and what they are trying to do to our country.

Anyway, enough of the yip-yap. I've got to go serve my country today. I've got jury duty! I hope I get selected to sit on the jury of some sick fifth column leftist's murder trial or something interesting like that! Could you imagine??

Your gonna serve your country be doing jury duty? How honorable, maybe if your luck you will get to decide if someone lives or dies. Speaking of life and death why dont you join the army if you really want to serve your country, or are you too fucking scared of being sent into combat? You serve your country by doing jury duty, what a load of shit! Thats like me saying I serve my country by paying my taxes.

Now you're going to get the " I served as a SEAL and I eat

enemy balls roasted on my K-bar" diatribe.

Now eat my balls.

I've been on three juries; what a miserable experience. They were filled with negative, authoritarian personalities who had their minds made up against the defendant before they heard any of the evidence. Those personality types get attracted to jury duty like moths to a candle. For perhaps the first time in their lives they get to have a little power, and they can't wait to use it - in a punitive fashion. Some brought Calvinistic or other authoritarian belief systems openly into the jury room.

Stop asking me to put your balls in my mouth.

I'm not gay.

...is a real Dish - if you're a Necrophiliac.

She looks like a mouldering blond corpse arisen from her rightful resting place.

Maybe outside that bunker in Berlin. Eva Braun rises from the dead.

...IMC NAZI reference.

No thread would be complete without it!

Yer slippin', though...it took 10 hours.

Gotta do better than that!

In every sense of the word - Lori Berenson, imprisoned by fascists in Peru, and Rachel Corey, murdered by the Israeli army in Palestine.

I'm sure you really loved the picture of St Corrie burning the American flag for the little Palestinian kids.

You are right, Daveman. I've seen the picture and I loved it; I wish I could have been there to take part in the demonstration. Maybe I could have burned an Israeli flag.

...you'd rather have burned an Israeli.

That's what get's me about these "peace" activists. They get all upset if I say I couldn't care less about their little diatribes on how the USA is pillaging the oil fields and the banks of third world nations, and they claim I have no heart.

Then they piss on the memories of the patriots that have fought and died for their freedom to "tell me off" by burining the flag.

I don't get it. Liberalist dementia folks.

Anyway, I hear that Ann Coulter will be debunking the long standing myth of McCarthyism in her new book. I'd recommend that we all rush out and get a copy.

Eric, baby, let me fill you in on some of the things that have been done under that flag: the invasion of Mexico in the 1840's and the theft of a third of the country, the return of fugitive slaves who had fled to northern cities like Boston by Marines carrying that flag even when that meant using force against civilians trying to block the action, the massacre of Filipinos fighting for independence after the Spanish American War, the virtual extermination of Indians west of the Appalachian Mountains (those east of them had already been taken care of in colonial times), the invasion of numerous Latin American and West Indian countries in the 20th century to ensure that their economies and governments were fully under the control of US corporations, and the massacres that took place at My Lie and numerous other Vietnamese villages. And don't forget the heroes who destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki; the Hiroshima plane carried markings that symbolized the flag on the outside; inside the crew had hung a picture of a naked prostitute, pink panties and nylon stockings presumably obtained from prostitutes, and (I guess this was supposed to be a joke) a book about venerial disease. Last but not least, maybe we should commemorate the fliers who exterminated retreating Iraqi troops on the so-called highway of death thirteen years ago. Now, why on earth would anyone want to burn a flag that symbolized not only this stuff, but the massive aid that the United States has provided to various murderous Zionist regimes? Why in the world would people all over the globe frequently cheer as this flag is burned? Because they are jealous that we have the Super Bowl and they don't?

If you hate America so much, then why are you still here?

...should be shot on site.

If you hate liberals so much, then why are you still here?

so I can keep my beady little eyes on you. So I can bitch slap you down if you look like you're getting too big for your britches.

Well, you sure are doing a poor job of it. I thought that you were here for everyone to laugh at.

And we'll be laughing at least for another 5 and half years.

BTW, I answered your question. Now answer mine.

Who's "we?" The voices in your head? You are beyond psycho.

are all the Bushite appointed disinfo agents here in my office.

Now answer the question.

Hello, Eric. I thought that you'd like to know that we're having a special on straightjackets this week. Please pick up one.

Just a pussy liberal. You don't even know why you're here do you? You hate it so much but you can't explain why you stay. And then you call me crazy.

HAR!

Back from jury duty already, Eric? I hope those meanies didn't kick you out of the jury pool just because you showed up wearing an SS uniform or a sheet. Besides, I thought those things were a plus under the Ashcroft regime.

You really should try to get on one of those juries. I mean, if Daveman goes on trial for shooting 13 year olds for wearing the flag on the seat of their jeans you could be the person who saves him with a hung jury.

Try not to use the word "hung" in a sentence. It makes my panties wet.

After all the jurors arrived, the pansy-assed little anarchist that would have been on trial copped a plea bargain. So I didn't get the opportunity to fry his ass. I was greatly disappointed, as were the other twenty-some-odd potential executioners that showed up to mutiliate the little prick. He must not have been too stupid though cause he knew his ass was gonna get fried if I had any say about it...

Please talk about your panties elsewhere.

I did not show up wearing an SS uniform or a sheet. I had on an expertly tailored, exact replica of the outfit Stonewall Jackson wore at the Battle of Gettysburg.

At least he's coming up with some new and original material, folks. Give him credit for trying. That last one was almost funny. I just did crack a smile...

Do you always have conversations with yourself?

Easy come, easy go. Guess his inspiration is as fleeting as a fart in the wind...

Do you always have conversations with yourself?

any evidence excuse me?

zero?

thought so.

fuck off.

no stinkin' Ayrabs were on those planes. Not a one!

No Israelis were caught celebrating the collapse of the WTC. Not a one!