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by Morgan Guyton
Tuesday, Jun. 24, 2003 at 4:24 PM
morgan@mutualaid.org
Vote for the only peace and justice Democratic candidate Dennis Kucinich in the MoveOn.org primary Tues 6/24 and Wed 6/25.
Dear fellow peace advocates,
We have a chance to make a major difference in the Democratic presidential campaign. MoveOn.org has become a powerful lobbying and fundraising force with about 2.5 million participating members. They have decided to endorse a pro-peace-and-justice presidential candidate if one gets more than 50% of the vote in a primary they are holding Tuesday 6/24 and Wednesday 6/25. This means significant funds could potentially be raised for this candidate by MoveOn.org perhaps putting him/her on equal standing with the better funded "front-runner" Democrats. Thus, this primary could be more significant than any other event in the Democratic presidential. You can register for the MoveOn.org primary by clicking here. To look at what candidates have to say for themselves click here.
In a straw poll by MoveOn, the top three vote-getters were Dean, Kerry, and Kucinich. Kucinich is the only true peace and justice candidate among these three. Dean has been courting the defense industry and has met with none other than the more-right-wing-than-Bush Israeli premier Ariel Sharon. Kerry voted for the Iraq war. The only thing Kucinich lacks is money because he hasn’t kissed any corporate ass. But if he wins the moveon.org primary, he will be able to have access to the funds he needs.
If you want a candidate whose values are 100% Green and 100% pro-labor, pro-environment, and pro-peace on the Democratic ticket, then vote Kucinich in the MoveOn.org primary. Check out his website at www.kucinich.us.
www.kucinich.us
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by Socialist
Tuesday, Jun. 24, 2003 at 4:50 PM
It really amazes me that Democrats even show up on this website. The Democratic Party is the twin party of capitalism, funded by the same corporations as the Republican Party. The Democrats' game, especially hustlers like Dennis Kucinich, is to sing the progressive tune to get elected and then carry out the same reactionary capitalist agenda as the Republicans do. Kucinich is particularly despicable in that he is an anti-abortion Democrat who suddenly became pro-choice to run for president. This is why we saw the Democrats exist to keep the Reds out of office.
Kucinich supports capitalism, Israel and has voted for most of what Bush asked for. Please keep that jerk and all the other Democrats off this website.
What we need to do is put an end to the Democratic and Republican Parties. To do that, everyone must stop voting for any registered Democrat or Republican at any level of government.
It is worth voting on all the propositions and for whatever socialist candidate runs for office, if you think they are worthy of your vote. No capitalist candidate is every worth your vote.
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by x
Tuesday, Jun. 24, 2003 at 6:41 PM
We don't live in an "either-or," black and white world -- and certainly not at this early stage as it pertains to Kucinich. Pushing for a real progressive within the Democratic party isn't an obstacle to your agenda. We all know there isn't much difference between the dems and the repubs..... But by supporting Kucinich at this early stage can:
1) help push the dems into more progressive discussion -- and even if policies don't grow out of that (for the most part, they wont!), increased discussion of real progressive platform ideas is a good thing because it's part and parcel of the process that will educate in a left-ward direction;
2) have no impact on you and your ability -- or anyone's ability -- to champion that true change will come from socialism (or whatever)
This is the pre-primary season folks, and supporting the most progressive of the pack -- Kucinich -- is a no brainer. It doesn't get in the way (#2). It can increase debate (#1) so even those that say they would only support someone they see as "electable" (subtext being that Kucinich isn't seen as such) have it wrong by failing to realize that in the pre-primary stage, an absolute laser focus on the most progressive candidate is a positive thing without any conceivable downside (so you "he's not 'electable' types reading this need to zoom up a bit for the big picture in the pre-primary world).
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by Ignatius
Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 4:03 AM
What sound is sweeter than the crunching of lefty cockroaches stepping on each other? Kucinich CAN do his country some good, if this is how you clowns are going to behave.
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by fresca
Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 7:48 PM
"It is worth voting on all the propositions and for whatever socialist candidate runs for office, if you think they are worthy of your vote. No capitalist candidate is every worth your vote."
That is just plain stupid. Socialism is an utter failure. Why do you insist on making an ass of yourself?
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by debate coach
Thursday, Jun. 26, 2003 at 5:01 AM
"Socialism is an utter failure."
Unsubstantiated Allegation
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by poll
Saturday, Jun. 28, 2003 at 7:24 AM
BRAUN 7021 2.21% DEAN 139360 43.87% EDWARDS 10146 3.19% GRAHAM 7113 2.24% KERRY 49973 15.73% KUCINICH 76000 23.93% GEPHARDT 7755 2.44% LIEBERMAN 6095 1.92% SHARPTON 1677 0.53% OTHER 6121 1.93% UNDECIDED 6378 2.01% 317647 100.00% http://www.moveonpac.org/moveonpac/report.html Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, let the Democrats nominate Dean or Kunicich. Bush is probably a shoo-in anyway, but might as well rubber-stamp it.
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by please
Saturday, Jun. 28, 2003 at 8:38 AM
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by Ffutal
Wednesday, Jul. 09, 2003 at 5:13 AM
Is the Democratic Party dividing along racial lines? Last week, a pair of competing poll results that suggested it may be: the MoveOn "primary," which Howard Dean won handily, and a Gallup poll, which showed Joe Lieberman in the lead and Al Sharpton in a fourth-place tie overall and leading the pack among black Democrats. It seems Sharpton noticed the same Gallup poll. On CNN's "Late Edition" Sunday, he cited it in expressing his frustration over all the attention Dean is getting after the latter's recent fund-raising success: Sharpton: The basis of being taken seriously in a democracy ought to be the response of the people. I'm not a poll believer, but your own poll is the exact opposite of the fund-raising. I remember last quarter John Edwards was ahead, and it was all the hoopla about that. Now it's something else. Judy Woodruff: No, I understand what you're saying. I'm not sure which poll you're referring to, but I know that at this point . . . Sharpton: Your CNN-USA Today poll by Gallup that you released last week. Woodruff: All right. And I'm aware that a lot of that is national name recognition, and you are certainly well known, Reverend Sharpton. http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/06/le.00.html I've surmised that Dean's supporters probably included very few blacks, and a pair of Washington Post op-eds--one by Post editorialist Ruth Marcus and one by J.P. Gownder of the Yankee Group, a Boston-based consulting firm, bolster our point. Both attended Dean gatherings last Wednesday organized by MeetUp.com. At the gathering Marcus attended, in suburban Rockville, Md., "nearly everyone was white." Likewise in Boston, according to Gownder: In addition to the 14 Meetup volunteer "hosts," a steady stream of upbeat, up-and-coming, prosperous looking types--just the kind of crowd you might expect to see at an event for a liberal Democrat--arrived well before the event started. . . . The procession of the well-heeled continued. A few people looked like computer programmers I might have seen at the premiere of "The Matrix: Reloaded." Of the 120 or so attendees, my informal tabulations suggested a 60-to-40 male-female ratio, a fairly even distribution of younger and older adults, and--without exaggeration--99 percent white. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9739-2003Jul4.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10736-2003Jul4.html The white liberal activists Dean attracts are, to be sure, a crucial part of the Democratic coalition. But so are blacks--and Dean, who comes from a state that is 96.8% white and just 0.5% black, has shown no evidence that he has any appeal to blacks. That won't hurt him much in Iowa (93.9% white, 2.1% black) or New Hampshire (96% white, 0.7% black), but it will spell trouble in South Carolina, where blacks make up 29.5% of the population and no doubt a much higher proportion of the Democratic electorate. The big question will be whether black South Carolinians gravitate toward Sharpton or a more conventional candidate like Lieberman. Bill Clinton, with his smooth personality, hardscrabble Arkansas upbringing and Ivy League education, was perfectly suited to appeal to both black Democrats and liberal white professionals. It's possible that next year each of these groups will vote in large numbers for a candidate that is utterly unpalatable to the other--to say nothing of the rest of the electorate.
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