Downloaders would get fried computer

Jeremiah Horrigan, Middleton Times Herald-Record, NY, June 19, 2003

Three centuries ago, Jonathan Swift suggested that the problem of Irish poverty could be easily solved by eating Irish babies. Swift, a satirist, was kidding.

On Tuesday, U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch suggested that the problem of illegally downloading copyrighted material from the Internet could be easily solved by remotely "destroying" the computers of people who did so. Hatch, a Republican senator from Utah, wasn't kidding.

Remotely damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights," Hatch told technology experts testifying Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, which he chairs.

"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. ... There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws." Violators would be given two electronic warnings. If they took a third swing, their hardware would be out – for good.

In addition to his political achievements, Hatch is a songwriter of sufficient ability to have earned ,000 in royalties last year. He did not reveal if any of his patriotic soft-rock ballads (Anyone download "America Rocks" lately?) had been pilfered by copyright cyber-criminals.

Yesterday, Hatch backed off his comments somewhat, saying that he doesn't think the industry is doing enough to prevent people from stealing copyrighted material off the Internet. "I do not favor extreme remedies – unless no moderate remedies can be found," Hatch said.

Proposals like Hatch's come down to control, political scientist Lewis Brownstein said yesterday. It's an attempt to put the technological genie back in the bottle. Brownstein, chairman of SUNY New Paltz's political science department, said he was mildly surprised at Hatch's remarks, since the Utah senator has sometimes shown libertarian political tendencies.

"I think it shows the level of distress among people of his political persuasion when they're confronted by elements outside their control," he said. Brownstein agrees that artists should be paid for their work, but noted there's a "disconnect" between artists and the corporations that essentially own the artists' work. "That's who's pushing for this sort of thing," he said.

While Hatch's statements are not a "real threat," the freedom afforded by the Internet will continue to attract critics uncomfortable with or threatened by public access to information that's never been available before, Brownstein said. Computer consultant Dylan VanDetta of Black Shirt Consulting in Middletown said that while he felt Hatch's suggestion was "ridiculous," it was also surprising – and dangerous.

"It sounds very odd to me to hear that a politician would fight for technology that would allow someone to be punished for something without there being any proof of a crime," he said. "To encourage development of something that would not only bypass the judicial system but could be used by anyone with malicious intent to affect an enemy's computer – it's a really bad idea."

Matthew Kennedy of Washingtonville favors copyright law. He downloads – and pays 99 cents each for – only the songs he likes. That amounts to a lot less than he would pay for a compact disc where someone else picked the songs. But the 19-year-old music fan thinks Hatch's three-strikes-and-you're-out idea is way off base. "Two wrongs don't make a right. If anything, that will just cause more problems."

Greg Bekiaris said the high cost of authorized music is driving music lovers to the Internet. "If I download a song, it's to get a taste of the rest of the album," the 23-year-old Central Valley resident said. "I'm not spending on a CD when I'm only going to like two songs."

The Associated Press and staff writer Sandy Tomcho contributed to this report.

Funny thing is, Hatch's own website is using Java menus he hasn't paid a licence for (see the story in the link).

Shall we start a movement - call it the Zap-Hatch-ers, perhaps?

Pleeze do it

Pleese

Pleeze do it

More soon...

We're breathless with anticipation, sitting on the edges of our seats, white knuckles, heart beating rapidly...

Ahh, forget it. Nobody cares after all.

I will share it with people that lurk in dark places.

He told us his location a couple weeks ago.

But you go ahead and play Nacy Drew there, Mary.

Just don't go to Old Man Johnson's barn alone!

Living on Shaw Air Force Base in

SOuth CArolina.

20th fighter wing.

daveman defends profusely, without eric's support, eric's address!...hmm?

No it wouldn't you idiot. Here's a whois search for that IP:



Search results for: 68.212.64.23



OrgName: BellSouth.net Inc.

OrgID: BELL

Address: 575 Morosgo Drive

City: Atlanta

StateProv: GA

PostalCode: 30324

Country: US



Looks to me like it would put me in Atlanta Georgia. The only reason you know I'm NEAR Charleston is because, as daveman said, I told you that quite recently. But I'm not IN Charleston.

If you want my address, it can certainly be arranged. I'd love to sit down and have a cup of coffee with ANY of you.

And daveman has MY full support any time he needs it. He and I are going out next Saturday night to beat up liberals.

We're the same person.

Thats why the IP is so close together.

(its being generated from the same local)

SO, that being said.....

Eric is the guy I wish I was....he's a SEAL and a gung ho real soldier.

Davemans who I pretend to be when my "eric" moniker gets too hot.

He works at Shaw air force pizza pub and has bad acne.

Lay off the grease, zitboy.

My real name is simple simon, I was caught lying about being a SpecOps soldier and now only appear sometimes. I usually appear to back up my other personalities, So i look like i know what i'm talking about.

I know I am a lame for using 3 different monikers, but since I cant get laid

(my wife is fucking some real soldier)

I play around on the internet and sometimes I go and reenact old Civil war battles.

I know i'm a freak of nature,

But I know im better than all of you.