Mike Shannon: 'Revisionist victory'

Date: Tuesday, June 17 @ 09:57:40 EDT

Topic: War & Terrorism

By Mike Shannon

If this isn't a case of the snowman calling the polar bear white, I don't know what is. For George Bush to accuse people of "revisionist history" while sitting at the apex of an organization that has lifted the remaking of reality to an art form is the very height of hubristic hypocrisy.

That the President of the United States is being forced to repeat the same inane talking point which was first wielded by Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice shows precisely how desperate the administration is to keep the truth at bay. They know that if they do not keep up a fevered offensive they are in mortal danger of being squeezed by two very unpleasant pincers. The first, regarding the severity and credibility of the threat prior to the invasion of Iraq and the second, wether the United States has bitten off more than we care to chew.

Addressing the latter point first: As this is being written, the United States Central Command has released more information on the latest series of attacks on American soldiers in Iraq. In the past 24 hours 10 American have been wounded by grenade and small arms fire. Although this is the largest single day casualty count to date, from a strictly militarily perspective it is not much of a concern. The Iraqis are completely incapable of defeating the American military on a face to face encounter; every time they make a stand and, either now or during "major combat operations", try to go toe to toe with the American army, they get annihilated. Unfortunately for both parties, they do not appear to be getting the message that their cause is futile.

Donald Rumsfeld -- a man you don't hear as much from now that things have gotten a little more "untidy" than he expected -- gave an interview on his swing through Europe this past week which if it was meant to put a best case view on the current situation it certainly fell short. Mr Rumsfeld, in that incredibly annoying way of his, both asked the question and answered it. "Will the situation on the ground in Iraq improve in the next one, two or three months? Probably not. Will it improve with the addition of one, two, three divisions? Not necessarily." Perhaps the Secretary was suffering from a rather advanced case of jet lag when he made those comments, but we gladly accept such moments of candor regardless of the motivation.

In spite of his dire assessment, the main message from the administration remains; not to worry. We are constantly being reassured that the men who are continuing to take up arms against the US are relegated to Baathist loyalists, criminal elements and maybe even some rogue foreign fighters. While this all may be true, it belies the underlying dynamic. Every day that United States is forced to exert its will at the point of a gun the resentment of the Iraqi people will grow. If one half of one percent of the Iraqi population decides to actively resist the American occupation, that will mean our troops will be faced with an enemy totaling approximately 125,000 people. If that many people come to believe that "those who fear not the death of a thousand cuts will dare to unhorse the emperor", we have a problem.

As for the primary point under discussion these days, the evidence is piling up on a daily basis that the Bush administration, at best, grotesquely exaggerated the threat posed by the Iraqi regime. At the root of their strategy, they have chosen to counterattack their critics by dismissing the claim that Saddam never had WMD as preposterous. In a legalistic parsing of the claim they are technically correct. And they know it. Jay Leno told a joke in the weeks leading up to Iraq II which makes that point very nicely, "Of course we know Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. We have the receipts."

The following lengthy quote from an article by Robert Novak, published on September 26, 2002 on the CNN website, is not nearly as witty makes the very same point..

The setting is Mr Rumsfeld testifying before a Senate sub-committee concerning Iraqi chemical and biological weapons and boldly denying any knowledge of American participation in supplying said toxins.

"That suggests Rumsfeld also has not read the sole surviving copy of a May 25, 1994, Senate Banking Committee report. In 1985 (five years after the Iraq-Iran war started) and succeeding years, said the report, "pathogenic (meaning "disease producing"), toxigenic (meaning "poisonous") and other biological research materials were exported to Iraq, pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce." It added: "These exported biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."

The report then details 70 shipments (including anthrax bacillus) from the United States to Iraqi government agencies over three years, concluding, "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and recovered from the Iraqi biological warfare program."

If this report -- by a Cabinet level agency of the United States Government -- is this damning, one can only imagine what was contained in the 4,000 pages of the Iraqi arms disclosure which were edited out before even Congress got to see them.

Every time another such document reaches the light of day, every time another disgruntled insider takes a stand, and most importantly, every time another American soldier takes a bullet, the truth is going to be harder and harder to ignore.

Contact Mike at shnnn613@cs.com

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... pissing off the Shills by posting the first comment on an article they would rather not have to confront.

That by the way is why they hate my doing this because they would go nowhere near the truth if they had their way.

"...every time another American soldier takes a bullet, the truth is going to be harder and harder to ignore. "

Man you just can't make this crap up fast enough for the lies about America to sink in.

Thanks for the laugh.

...and nothing more.

Political Cartoons are not a reasoned argument.

In this case it is not an argument at all.

It is a diversion designed to get people pissed off and responding to the moronic cartoon and not read the article and comment on it.

Get even. Read the article.

OOOOoooooh he uses evil cartoons that might distract us from our hate America rants.

Silly boy is scared of the truth. There is evil out there and its not Americal you fool.

You act like people just decided to be Freedom Fighters instead of being forced into it by repeated bombings, curfews, destruction of homes and utilities, inability to travel to work, being detained without trial and representation indefinitely, targeted killings, deprivation of food, water and sleep, etc...

Which came first: the resistance or the injustice?

"Freedom Fighters" ???

And what you think the 9-11 terrorist were Mexican Baptist circus clowns? You have no shame what so ever.

But get real, Mudlimes have been killing Jews ever since Muhammad had 700 Jews killed in cold blood in Medina (around 650 AD). Since you clearly don't know your history we will excuse your ignorance. The Koran calls for the death of "the people of the Book."

For that matter there is no such thing as Palistine, those freaks are Jordanians. And they started this latest round of murder the the Dome on the Rock. Get your facts straight.

America, Oil & Israel have little to do with islamic terror. The problem is islam itself. Or maybe you think the terrorist want more money to please allah (may pigs piss on her). They are simply following muhammad’s (and he was a pedophile, check your islamic history) teachings and examples. His favorite way of eliminating his opponents, namely assassination. The current opponents, us!!! For that matter all free non-muslims everywhere (the Embassy bombings, the Kole, 9-11, Bali, the Moscow Theater ? No crap!)

Learn about muhammad’s (now burning in Hell) metamorphosis from preacher to despot. How his call for tolerance, when he was still in Mecca and weak changed to the cry of killing and looting when he became powerful in Medina. You will learn how muhammad (piece of ham be upon him) encouraged his handful of followers to attack the caravans, kill the men, rape the women and bring the booty (20% for himself) to please Allah, while assuring them that if they are killed their rewards will be “young boys fine as pearls (for child rape sex)”, rivers of wine, and many hurries in the other world. All these sickening deeds are backed by koran and hadith..

What do most Americans know about islam? A lot our knowledge is from inbreds like Mike Moore. So when some fool runs his mouth off like a vomiting Democrat, keep this in mind. Most have absolutely no islamic education to stand on and refuse to admit their lack of worldly experience. The next time you hear the “lets love a rag head because they are peaceful but I can’t prove it” crowd, remind them that the attack is only a matter of time. 9-11 wasn’t the start, muslims have been following muhammad’s example for centuries.

Dome of the Rock? You mean the El Aqsa Mosque, don't you? The one Sharon visited and fortified with troops as he claimed it for the Zionazis. (Starting the current Intafada, mind you!)

Boy, give some people someone else's land and they think they own the world!

By the way, anyone fighting to rid their homeland of occupying forces is a Freedom Fighter.

And aren't other religions equally intolerant? It seems that one religion views other people as 'not Chosen' and thus damned to hell. Must be nice to think you are the 'Chosen People'! What arrogance!

"Dome of the Rock? You mean the El Aqsa Mosque, don't you? The one Sharon visited and fortified with troops as he claimed it for the Zionazis. (Starting the current Intafada, mind you!)"

No Sharon didn't claim the rock mosque, he went there with a body guard troop and that pissed off the rag heads and they were the ones that started shooting. Note, don't fool with someone smarter than you.

"Boy, give some people someone else's land and they think they own the world!"

The never was a Palestine Brian. In fact those terrorist muslimes are from Jordan.

"By the way, anyone fighting to rid their homeland of occupying forces is a Freedom Fighter."

Again, IT'S NOT THEIR LAND YOU MORON.

"And aren't other religions equally intolerant? It seems that one religion views other people as 'not Chosen' and thus damned to hell. Must be nice to think you are the 'Chosen People'! What arrogance!"

First of all you leftist terrorist supporting fuck nuts asshole, I'm not a Jew. Secondly (pay attention stupid) Undeniably, Christians and Buddhists have in the past committed many despicable acts in the name of God, but they did so in violation of scriptural teaching, not in fulfillment of it. But concluding that peace-loving Muslims represents true Islam is like concluding Jehovah's Witnesses represent true Christianity. "Islam is a religion in which God requires you to send your son to die for him." "Christianity is a faith in which God sent his Son to die for you."

Now Brian you thick headed simpleton pay attention: Here is Palestine 101

JAFFA—Have you heard the one about Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Chairman Yasir Arafat finally sitting down to negotiate? Sharon opened with a "biblical" tale.

"Before the Israelites came to the Promised Land and settled here, Moses led them for 40 years through the desert. One day, miraculously, a stream appeared. They drank and then decided to bathe. When Moses came out of the water, he found all his clothes missing.

" 'Who took my clothes?' Moses asked. 'It was the Palestinians,' replied the Israelites."

"Wait a minute," interrupted Arafat. "There were no Palestinians during the time of Moses!"

"All right," smirked Sharon, "now that we've got that settled, let's start talking."

"If the lie is big enough and told often enough, it will be believed," Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels once said. What worked for Goebbels evidently is also working for Arafat.

The blatant lies and vicious propaganda emanating from the Arab world have gotten out of hand. Anti-Semitism is out of the closet. Jews are murdered in Canada, their graves are desecrated in Italy. It's time to sort through the spiteful drivel.

No, Charlie, despite what you read on a zillion Arab Web sites, Jews do not use the blood of Arab children to bake their holiday bread.

Yes, Harriet, the Jewish Temple did exist in Jerusalem. I know Arafat insists it didn't and his excavators are busy destroying all archaeological record of it. But next time you visit Rome, go check out the Forum and you'll find its story carved in the ancient stone of Titus's arch. Let's start at the beginning.

First, who really owns the land encompassing what is now Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority? The answer is so well documented it could be the subject of future UN resolutions—the Canaanites. They established the Land of Canaan here around 2000 B.C., so they have first dibs. Unfortunately for them, there isn't a single Canaanite left on earth.

Abraham, the Father of the Jews and a figure revered by Islam, led a band of Hebrews from Mesopotamia and began the conquest of Canaan in 1741 B.C.—that's 3743 years ago. Those first Israelites were joined in about 1290 B.C. by the Jewish slaves led out of Egypt by Moses.

After many years and a lot of help from Joshua, the Israelites finally defeated the Canaanites and old King Saul united the country in 1100 B.C. King David added Jerusalem in 1000 B.C., and King Solomon built the First Temple around 956 B.C. The land was plagued by raiders like those guys dubbed the Philistines, "Sea Invaders," who came out of the Aegean and snatched a nice chunk of the coast. Remember Goliath? He was a Philistine and King David made mincemeat of him, but the Philistines were a nuisance for many years.

Big trouble loomed in 586 B.C. when the Babylonians (nasty ancestors of the nasty Iraqis) invaded under King Nebuchadnezzar II. They sacked the lavish city Solomon had built in Jerusalem and tore down the First Temple. The Babylonians rounded up all the Jews they could catch and deported them to Babylonia as slaves. That "Babylonian Exile" lasted a mere 50 years and the Jews returned to build the Second Temple.

For the next 1000 years, everyone and his brother grabbed a piece of the territory—Persians, Greeks, and Romans. The Roman reign was particularly benevolent. They destroyed the Second Temple in 70 A.D. and killed an estimated 1.1 million disobedient Jews, including one named Jesus. The Romans also maliciously renamed the area Palaestina, after the Jews' old enemy, the Philistines. The Christian Byzantine Empire took over in 300 A.D. and held on for more than 300 years. During that era, the Muslim Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca in 570 A.D.

Muhammad's followers believed in conversion, big time, and swarmed around the Middle East giving everyone a fair choice—become a Muslim or die. These Arabs stormed Palestine in 638 A.D. Do the math. The Arabs got to the region 2379 years after the Jews. So, who is occupying whom??

The Arabs considered Palestine unimportant and ruled from Damascus and Baghdad. You could call them benign except for the massacres and the fact that they were uncomfortable with trees . . . so they cut them all down, turning the once fertile region into a more familiar desert.

With all the hoopla about Jerusalem, check out the Muslim holy book, the Koran. The Koran mentions Mecca and Medina countless times but never once speaks of Jerusalem. On the other hand, there are 811 references to Jerusalem in the Bible.

Christian Crusaders arrived from Europe in 1099 and ousted the Arabs. In subsequent years, the land switched back and forth between invaders, and in the turmoil Jews began filtering back from their scattered exile. Many came from Spain, whence they were expelled in 1492.

In 1516, the non-Arab Ottoman Turks conquered Palestine and held sway until after World War I, when the British took over.

We really have no idea how many Jews and how many Arabs there were at the time—mainly because both groups hid from the Ottoman census takers to avoid taxes.

But we do know that there were probably fewer than 350,000 people, the majority Arab, in the whole region (including what is now Jordan) when Mark Twain made a pilgrimage in 1867.

In his travelogue, Innocents Abroad, Twain wrote, "One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings."

"Nazareth is forlorn . . . Jericho the accursed lies a moldering ruin today," Twain said, adding, "There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere."

But the population was growing. More Jews arrived from Eastern Europe and Russia in the 1880s, either fleeing oppression or following the Zionist dream. And Arabs from neighboring countries flocked to jobs created by Jewish immigrants.

Take a deep breath, because now the plot thickens.

In 1917, Britain issued the Balfour Declaration and promised "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish People."

The British then turned around and gave over 77 percent of Palestine to the Arab Hashemites, for what later became Jordan. The remaining 23 percent, west of the River Jordan, was supposedly for the Jews.

But in 1947, the UN voted to partition that 23 percent of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states. The Israelis accepted the plan and in 1948 proclaimed the establishment of their state. Neighboring Arab nations, however, rejected both the partition and the idea of a Jewish state and launched a massive invasion of Israel.

They were defeated, and at the end of the 1948 war Israel held all of Western Palestine except the West Bank, which was captured by Jordan, and Gaza, which was seized by Egypt.

In the 1967 Six Day War, Israel again defeated Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Iraq, gaining control not only of Gaza and the West Bank, but also of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula and Syria's Golan Heights.

The big question is: Where were the calls for a Palestinian state during the 19 years Jordan occupied the West Bank and Egypt held Gaza?

A 1978 peace accord signed with Egypt returned the Sinai to Cairo, but the Egyptians seemed relieved to leave Gaza with Israel. In 1988, King Hussein of Jordan officially renounced all claims to the West Bank.

As far as Israelis were concerned, the land, won in a defensive war, belonged to them.

But even after all the nauseating terror of the last 23 months, the majority of Israelis are willing to give Palestinians the West Bank, Gaza, and half of Jerusalem for their state. We just wonder if they are willing to let us keep ours.

If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel. But you can keep telling yourself and I love this quote, "Ah yes, we treat the hug the islamic terrorist nice fanatics who seek our destruction because otherwise .. they might get mad and seek our destruction."

“Peace will come only when Palestinians love their children more than they hate Jews”

Israel's Former PM Golda Meir

“Those who fill the minds of children with hate, who use the bodies of children as weapons, who exploit the deaths of the young to further their own power-- have as their goal the destruction of peace and freedom”. Paul Wolfowitz

"There may be moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate. There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism. At most there is a difference of degree but not of kind."

-- Ibn Warraq, executive director of the Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society

"... pissing off the Shills by posting the first comment on an article they would rather not have to confront.

That by the way is why they hate my doing this because they would go nowhere near the truth if they had their way.

"

The level of self-importance here is actually embarrassing me.

Dio..please show a little self respect. Even I know you're better than this. Jeez.

...used here to disrupt any debate on the article heading this thread.

Stretch the wrap making it inconvienient to read. (Possibly unintentional - or at least made to look it.)

Divert the thread by posting diversionary articles (Spam)

to get people chasing the diversionary topic.

Conclusion: The Shills/PsyOps people do not want you

to look at the article and debate it's consequences.

Quit flattering yourself.

The last thing I had in mind was any "Psyops" tactics.

Sue me, but I'm simply not that interested in the topic. Your self-importance, was, however, riveting.

By all means, everyone...please read and respond to the story.

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