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Are you sheep or americans?

by Sheepdog likes it. Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 12:17 AM

Let's stir the pot a bit and see what comes to the surface, shall we? "Perhaps we should look at the most notable members of The Carlyle Group and see if we can discover what their new purposes might be"

Americans must lose sheepishness about 9/11

author: Bridget Gibson

Reality has a way of correcting misconceptions, so on May 11, al-Qaida reared its ugly head and struck three housing compounds of the Vinnell Corporation.

Vinnell's history includes being owned by The Carlyle Group, and it has had contracts with the Pentagon since the 1950s. This company trains mercenaries in various regions of the globe. It has recruited, trained and supplied a group of people whom we would consider terrorists. Vinnell has been paid more than 0 million by our government since 1994 for "training and construction."

http://www.amarillonet.com/stories/052803/opi_americansmust.shtml

Americans must lose sheepishness about 9/11

By Bridget Gibson

From the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln, President Bush declared that the terrorists were on the run and we were winning the war on terrorism.

Reality has a way of correcting misconceptions, so on May 11, al-Qaida reared its ugly head and struck three housing compounds of the Vinnell Corporation.

Vinnell's history includes being owned by The Carlyle Group, and it has had contracts with the Pentagon since the 1950s. This company trains mercenaries in various regions of the globe. It has recruited, trained and supplied a group of people whom we would consider terrorists. Vinnell has been paid more than 0 million by our government since 1994 for "training and construction."

I'm certain that The Carlyle Group, known as venture capitalists, have "ventures" that befit their combined expertise and knowledge and have wondered what that knowledge might be. By owning and managing Vinnell Corporation, Carlyle must have understood the original purpose of that corporation, which was the recruiting and training of mercenaries for the goal of destabilizing various governments throughout the world. Pakistan is a prime example of their effort, as Musharraf was installed through a military coup.

Perhaps we should look at the most notable members of The Carlyle Group and see if we can discover what their new purposes might be:



George Herbert Walker Bush (former CIA Director and 41st U.S. president).

James A. Baker III (former U.S. Secretary of State).

Frank Carlucci (former CIA Director and Defense Secretary under Ronald Reagan).

John Major (former Tory Prime Minister of the United Kingdom).

It has been rumored that British Prime Minister Tony Blair has a position in waiting with The Carlyle Group.

Osama bin Laden's family was heavily invested with The Carlyle Group until Oct. 26, 2001, when the exposure of such close ties between the Bush and bin Laden families became known.

On that fateful day of Sept. 11, 2001, there was a high-level meeting in Washington, D.C., at the Ritz-Carlton between members of The Carlyle Group and the bin Laden family. These bin Laden family members were whisked out of the United States quietly aboard a private charter plane on Sept. 14.

According to the National Law Enforcement and Security Institute, the CIA was staging a simulated terrorist attack on 9/11. This simulation involved airplanes flying into buildings.

Is it possible that the reason that no jets were scrambled for the hijacked airliners was because our military had been advised that such a simulation was taking place? Is this the reason that none of the hijacked planes were intercepted?

Is this why Sept. 11, 2001, was chosen by al-Qaida? Did someone pass this information to someone else who should not have been privy to such? It is obvious that there is something amiss.

Why, on May 1, did George W. mislead the American public by declaring that the terrorist network was weakened and unable to strike us just days before another attack on American interests?

Who is close enough to whisper lying assurances into his ear?

Are our intelligence sources so poorly equipped to understand the threats that are real and should be known and prevented?

Something is not right here and I'm certain that I am not the only person wondering how deeply the secrets are buried. Whose interests are being served at our country's expense?

9/11 changed America. I would like to think that out of every tragedy, something good emerges, but I have seen my fellow Americans become more vengeful and less thoughtful by the day. We have allowed ragged and raw emotion to be our guide, forgoing any clear analysis to enlighten us as to what happened and why.

Our highest governmental offices are filled with people who have aligned themselves with group, such as Project for the New American Century, American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society, that have, for years, openly stated that they seek and desire continual war on other nations.

The Project for the New American Century has a membership roster that mimics our Department of Defense. Its members have made no secret that they believe that America should utilize our military to begin a series of wars to conquer the Mideast and beyond. The Bush Doctrine that was introduced in October 2002 contains exact language found on their Web site.

We, as citizens of this nation, are compelled to understand that although being informed is shocking at times, our lack of knowledge and information can harm us and everyone else on this planet. We must work together as a collective citizenry to demand answers to our questions. We must have full disclosure about what happened on 9/11.

We must have transparency from our government and insist that the lies and the secrecy stop. We stand at the precipice.

My questions are: Are we going to be sheep fit only to be driven over the cliffs of ignorance? Or will we turn upon the wolves and begin to chase them back to the hell from which they came?

Bridget Gibson, a 1975 Tascosa High School graduate, grew up in Amarillo.

homepage: http://www.amarillonet.com/stories/052803/opi_americansmust.shtml

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Love it.

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 4:27 PM

A high school grad with brains. How did that happen?

And in texas.

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Are you sheep or americans?

by answer Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 10:30 PM

Let's see. What would be the official IMC answer to this question? Not that it has any foundation in reality, but there is the standard answer to be given that has been approved by all the proper think tanks and agreed upon by the followers.

It goes like this:

If you agree with the Bush dictrine, then you are a sheep who blindly follows your leader. If you hate Bush, then you are a patriot of the highest order.

There. That pretty much summed it all up into one neat, tidy little package. Anything outside of this warped box is anathama to IMCers and has COINTELPRO coming out of every oraface.

Ah, the IMC crowd. Predictable, predictable, predictable.

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comment on answer

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:00 PM

I thought you were going to answer how a set of brains grew in Texas. Oh damn.

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Tejas

by ZZ Top Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:19 PM

Lot of smart Texans.

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answer nailed it.

by daveman Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:23 PM

Right on the head.

I would add (once again): IMCers cannot conceive that someone can look at the same data and come to a different conclusion. Therefore, anyone who disagrees must be paid by the government to do so.

Well, guess what, you bozos?

You ain't got a lock on being right. Far from it. You do, however, have a lock on buying into the conspiracy theory du jour (see the article heading this thread). And the more wacked-out it is, the more slaveringly you pronounce it the absolute Truth-with-a-capital-T.

Guaranteed.

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Oh

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:28 PM

you from Texas too?

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answer

by brigg Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:36 PM

Of course "answer" nailed it. "answer" is me. I'm back from vacation (a wonderful week in St. Thomas, USVI) and ready and relaxed and unwilling to put up w/ the BS. Sorry to announce to all the IMCers that not once at any of the airports or seaports or anywhere I visited did the "Bush haters club" voice their opinion on anything seeing that if they did they would have been cast off the island.

No, sheep, not a Texan. Know a lot of them, worked to help open stores when I was in retail in Dallas and Houston areas mainly and Texans are quite hospitible people. And it you were to badmouth Texas to their face, I fell quite confident they would kick your ever-loving ass.

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Lackland AFB

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:38 PM

And I still can get rid of the smell.

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Lackland

by brigg Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:44 PM

Bootcamp. What did you expect, shuffleboard?

San Antionio is OK. It's gotten better, more clean over the years. Bootcamp would put a bad taste in anyone's mouth, so you can't be totally faulted.

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Welcome back, brigg.

by daveman Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:48 PM

You mean, everywhere you went outside the borders, the locals weren't screaming for the head of Gee Dub on a platter?

But that's what they told me at IMC! The ENTIRE world hates America! They ought to know; they asked everybody!

Could they have been...GASP!...wrong?

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BA & daveman

by brigg Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 11:57 PM

Thanx for the welcome and the info. Nope. Not one protest or native marching in the streets. Amazing, huh! Not even in Miami while I was there for 2 days.

Sant Cruz, huh. I guess all the campgrounds at Capitola were taken.

I personally wish all liberals/anarchists would visit St. Thomas via Greyhound.

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Well let's see...

by Diogenes Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003 at 2:22 AM

...can we find one substantive comment from any of the Shills (Brig, davie, or Bushasskisser)?

No.

What do we have?

Why the ususual of course. What's that you say? Schoolyard name calling, mischaracterization, taunts, and copious quantities of self inflation.

I'm shocked. Do you hear me? Shocked.

NOT.

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Who is the belwhether?

by Parmenides Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003 at 2:48 AM

Sounds like a bunch of leaderless sheep to me...

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Hola brigg!

by Eric Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003 at 12:16 PM

Good to see you made it back from your vacation in one piece and are back here kicking liberal ass.

I had a great time myself last week in Belize. Cozumel wastn't too bad either, spent the afternoon at Senior Froggs drinkin' margaritas and dancin' with senioritas!

Guess we should thank our Furher for giving us time off from our jobs as paid shills, eh?

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brigg

by your boss Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003 at 1:43 PM

Get back to work. The urinals need new scent cakes.

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faker/KOBE

by brigg Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003 at 5:05 PM

I don't have a boss. Now get back to the KOBE SBM spam like we TOLD you to do, Dinky!

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by Dehomocrats Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003 at 5:24 PM

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Wankers one and all

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