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by mymicz
Friday, May. 23, 2003 at 4:39 PM
Free speech is one thing, hate speech is another.
I wrote a rather decent article, I was proud, I felt I had to show it off. It was a review of Hitler, the rise of evil, a CBS special aired this week. I was trying to convince people of the similarities, between the civil rights abuses of Hitler, and those of Bush.
You see, my mother is my biggest cause, I've been trying to convince her, that her fear of terrorists is not a reason to destroy the constitution or support this president.
It might have worked, the article had good insight, and free added some great comments.
Except for one thing, when my mother came to the Indeymedia site, she was confronted with nothing but hate speech.
People who post here generally agree racism is bosh, the wrong thing, the wrong way.
But there are a few, who have nothing better to do, that come to disrupt our general euphoria we gain from having a voice.
Those people group other people into categories so they can hate or blame them. But they don't do it by wealth, or by bad acts, they simply do it by religion.
For those of us born into a religion we did not understand or disagreed with, for those of us who are different from religious stereotypes, the use of hate speech is a major turnoff. What's more, it ruins our credibilty as journalists if we resort to hate speech.
I cannot controll what goes on Indeymedia. I don't think I would want to. It's an inner conflict between the right to speak and offend, and sometimes shock, AND THE RIGHT TO LIVE HATE FREE. The caps were an accident but it couldn't have come at a better time.
If a coalition is to be sucessful it must be as unified as it's opposition. And hate speech only hurts people and brings disharmony to the cause.
People can be bad, but when we lump them by religion or country even we are ignoring so much of the good.
Let us not make that same mistake here.
Let us use our editorial policy to the best of our ability, no more slander based on faith, we need facts about individuals, corporations and their actions, not their religion.
Because in essence, Karma screws with all of us. And if we say hate speech is o.k., we are faced with lady Karma making it so that no one will hear our pleas for justice. Do not become the evil you wish to eliminate, be the change you'd like to see.
Censoring the stupid and wicked may not be the best idea, but I think all Muslims, Jews, Catholics, and Free Masons should be able to come hear without having to be unlucky enough as to read racist hate mail. After all, this is Independant Media, not the religious hate network. Let's leave the hate speech for Rush Limbaugh to trip on instead of ourselves.
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by Tom
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 5:11 AM
I also noticed many similarities between the political life of Hitler and G.W. Bush. This became alarmingly coincidental when the program showed the Nazis sabotaging their own building in order to cause public fear. Also of interest were the quotes shown before and after the series which mentioned that the biggest aid to evil is to do nothing.
Let's wake up America.
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by Jews pose as Nazis to get censorship
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 5:26 AM
Except for one thing, when my mother came to the Indymedia site, she was confronted with nothing but hate speech.
LOOK, Jews trying to get their evil censorship imposed on Indymedia.
I've often seen them pose as Nazis and post Nazi materials in order to try and introduce censorship at various sites.
All they want is to hide the truth about Jewish actions in Israel and WW2.
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by daveman
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 8:25 AM
Wow.
You're a Jew-hater.
How can you live with yourself, hating someone for no reason at all other than their religious heritage?
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by Sam D
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 9:37 AM
particularly when the 'jew hater' comment was planted
here to provide a plank to justify the occupation and
murder by Sharon's IDF MAD DOGS, as all jews.
Tired.
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by brigg
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 10:07 AM
>I also noticed many similarities between the political life of Hitler and G.W. Bush. This became alarmingly coincidental when the program showed the Nazis sabotaging their own building in order to cause public fear.
And Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Let's make that connection next, shall we.
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by brigg
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 10:12 AM
"Indeymedia loses clout"
This statement is like say "Have you leftists/anarchists lost your mind!"
You can't lose what you didn't have to begin with.
Don't sweat it too much, mymicz. Ten (10) people are regular readers and commenters here, tops.
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by the unwashed multitudes
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 10:34 AM
and they are are all me.
thank you.
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by KOBE SBM
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 2:32 PM
kobehq@yahoo.com
We here at KOBE support you. You sound as though you hate those wicked Muslims (mudslums) as much as we do. You'd make great killing machines. Please join us!
www.kobehq.com
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by Diogenes
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 2:37 PM
...upon what you define as "hate speech".
There are lot of articles on Indy criticising the actions of the Israeli government. To do so is not hate speech but a just reaction to the Israeli Government's barbaric behavior.
"The truth is cruel but it can be loved; and it sets free those who have loved it."
-- George Santayana
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by dvy
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 2:41 PM
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by KOBE SBM
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 5:12 PM
kobehq@yahoo.com
We hate Muslims. Join us.
www.kobehq.com
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by daveman
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 5:15 PM
...Muslims and I'm interested in joining your club. Do I have to pay any membership dues?
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by Eric
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 5:26 PM
What a stupid title for an article: "Indymedia loses clout."
If this website ever had any clout, it was in the minds of paranoid delusional fifth column leftist liberal conspiracy mongering drunkards.
Get a grip.
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by anti-psycho
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 5:37 PM
Watch out! A "fifth column leftist" is watching you from across the street with binoculars!!! Go get a straightjacket, you psycho.
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by KOBE SBM
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 6:08 PM
kobehq@yahoo.com
If you hate Muslims and niggers as much as we do, visit our website.
www.kobehq.com
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by hiding the truth about Jewish actions in Isra
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 6:57 PM
Except for one thing, when my mother came to the Indymedia site, she was confronted with nothing but hate speech.
LOOK, Jews trying to get their evil censorship imposed on Indymedia.
I've often seen them pose as Nazis and post Nazi materials in order to try and introduce censorship at various sites.
All they want is to hide the truth about Jewish actions in Israel and WW2.
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by KOBE SBM
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 7:06 PM
kobehq@yahoo.com
If you hate Muslims and niggers as much as we do, visit our website.
www.kobehq.com
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by Ten (10) people are regular readers TOPS
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 7:41 PM
brigg Ten (10) people are regular readers and commenters here, tops
Yeap, 10 TOPS.
So what is your explanation for this being such an underutilized resource.
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by daveman
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 9:56 PM
"particularly when the 'jew hater' comment was planted
here to provide a plank to justify the occupation and
murder by Sharon's IDF MAD DOGS, as all jews."
"I've often seen them pose as Nazis and post Nazi materials in order to try and introduce censorship at various sites.
All they want is to hide the truth about Jewish actions in Israel and WW2."
Wow. And you have the gall to try to blame your hatred of Jews on the Jews themselves, as opposed to your own closed and twisted mind. Fascinating.
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