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by Play it again Sam
Friday, May. 23, 2003 at 9:07 AM
Since frescaw and some of the other Trolls keep harping on the evil Muslim hijackers I thought this article worth a return visit.
FBI Admits: No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' to 9-11
The possibility that 19 Muslim men accused of being the Sept. 11 hijackers were not, in fact, the hijackers, is not so extraordinary an idea as it might seem.
Exclusive To American Free Press
By Michael Collins Piper
After seven months of non-stop declarations by U.S. government spokesmen that there exists solid proof tying 19 Muslim men to plotting the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, FBI Director Robert Mueller has now admitted quite the opposite.
That 19 Muslim men who have apparently disappeared have been named as the hijackers is not in doubt.
What is in doubt is whether those 19 men were actually plotting anything, either individually or together.
The amazing possibility remains that others carried out the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, using the identities of the 19 Muslims who have been assigned guilt in the tragedy.
In an April 19 speech delivered to the Common wealth Club in San Francisco, Mueller said that the purported hijackers, in his words, “left no paper trial.” The FBI director stated flatly:
In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper—either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere—that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot.
In describing Mueller’s evidence fiasco, Los Angeles Times reporters Erich Lichtblau and Josh Meyer, whose article was reprinted in The Washington Post on April 30, note that:
Law enforcement officials say that while they have been able to reconstruct the movements of the hijackers before the attacks—all legal except for a few speeding tickets—they have found no evidence of their actual plotting.
The Times reporters acknowledge that Mueller’s comments “offer the FBI’s most comprehensive and detailed assessment to date of its investigation, remarkable as much for what investigators have not found as for what they have.”
The FBI director explained away the absence of evidence by making the disingenuous assertion that the hijackers used “meticulous planning, extraordinary secrecy and extensive knowledge of how America works” to conceal their scheme.
Mueller made this claim despite the fact that in the immediate wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, a variety of U.S. officials and media sources speciously announced, almost instantaneously, that there was firm evidence not only that these 19 Muslim men were agents of Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda “network” but that they were indeed the individuals who hijacked the doomed flights on Sept. 11.
Mueller seems to forget that early government and media reports loudly hyped “discoveries”—letters and other documents—in the luggage and personal belongings of the presumed hijackers which “proved” that they were on a “mission for Allah,” etc etc.
Now Mueller’s comments seem to contradict everything that’s been said.
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by x
Friday, May. 23, 2003 at 12:39 PM
the above is slopy as hell
This story is about six months old and people should easily be able to reference to the original. You post from looking at the orginial so take the time to include the URL
Be professional
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by Diogenes
Friday, May. 23, 2003 at 12:44 PM
...is my command - sorta. Let's not make a habit of it. Link to Original: http://www.americanfreepress.net/051302/FBI_Admits/fbi_admits.html
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by fresca
Friday, May. 23, 2003 at 12:45 PM
and this proves what?
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by Diogenes
Friday, May. 23, 2003 at 12:48 PM
... doubt.
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by fresca
Friday, May. 23, 2003 at 8:46 PM
...but then again, you're sort of an idiot.
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by fresca
Friday, May. 23, 2003 at 8:50 PM
...but then again, you're sort of an idiot.
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by Sy$teMFaiLuRe
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 12:51 AM
Well, well, well. Lemme see now.
These "hijackers" that were linked to Al-Queda and this was the reason the US launched an assault on Bin Laden and Afganistan.
Now, if the "hijackers" identities and links are in question, then the rush to war seems to be possibly for other reasons.
The US government linked Iraq to "Al-queda" and hense, to 9-11. Making the argument that much simpler to invade.
DOsent the credibility of the Federal Govt, go to shit?
If we have no evidence now of who is responsible for the 9-11 attacks, then why were we so quick to attack Afganistan and the "Taliban"?
Looks like the anti-war protesters were right after all... What a shame.
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by Sy$teMFaiLuRe
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 12:55 AM
Well, well, well. Lemme see now.
These "hijackers" that were linked to Al-Queda and this was the reason the US launched an assault on Bin Laden and Afganistan.
Now, if the "hijackers" identities and links are in question, then the rush to war seems to be possibly for other reasons.
The US government linked Iraq to "Al-queda" and hense, to 9-11. Making the argument that much simpler to invade.
DOsent the credibility of the Federal Govt, go to shit?
If we have no evidence now of who is responsible for the 9-11 attacks, then why were we so quick to attack Afganistan and the "Taliban"?
Looks like the anti-war protesters were right after all... What a shame.
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by daveman
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 1:33 AM
...from Al Qaeda? From http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20030521/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_qaida_tape CAIRO, Egypt - An audiotape attributed to Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s top lieutenant on Wednesday called on Muslims to stage terrorist strikes against Jews, Americans and U.S. allies. The Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera showed a still photograph of Ayman al-Zawahri wearing a white turban while a forceful speaker urged Muslims to draw inspiration from the Sept. 11 attacks. "Consider your 19 brothers who attacked America in Washington and New York with their planes as an example," said the voice, speaking the classical Arabic typical of al-Qaida statements and making the accent difficult to place. Children's voices could be heard in the background.
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by Sy$teMFaiLuRe
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 1:42 AM
SO whats your point? Add in the other 1000 dissident political leaders of anti-american terrorist groups throught the world that hate the US. They all say the same thing.
Whats your point. It was bin Laden? Thats your proof? C'mon davegirl, you can do better than that..... ps how ya like the new way i spell my name Sy$teMFaiLuRe RulEz .../../.
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by Sy$teMFaiLuRe
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 2:13 AM
So much for the definitive "truth" you project davegirl. Heres some other exerpts.....
In Washington, U.S. intelligence analysts were reviewing the tape. A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it was plausible that the speaker was al-Zawahri but a thorough analysis was necessary to be certain.
Here's one direct contradiction of the "facts"
1--Meanwhile, Saudi security officials said that three al-Qaida suspects arrested in Saudi Arabia this week planned to hijack a plane from the southwestern port city of Jiddah in what appeared to be a plot for a suicide attack. 2--Saudi security officials said the three suspects intended to hijack a Sudan-bound flight, but did not say if there was any plot to use the plane as a missile.
Hmmmm.......
Also. He said it appeared the tape was recorded during the war on Iraq, noting there was no reference to the fall of Baghdad, an event al-Zawahri would have been likely to mention. Al-Zawahri also did not mention recent terror attacks on Saudi Arabia and Morocco.
Wow ---theres credibility.
The last audiotape purportedly from al-Zawahri surfaced in October 2002. A U.S. official said then that the tape, in which al-Zawahri threatens new attacks on the United States, appeared to have been recorded weeks earlier and seemed genuine.
......and the terrorist attacks against america since then were where? Its been almost a year now.........
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by fresca
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 6:12 AM
Christ,Failure, you're not still questioning AlQueda's roll in all this are you? How many MORE confessions, boasts and general pattings on the backs on video, audio and print form BinLaden and some of his captured "colleagues" will it take for you? Or are you of the, "All that stuff is fake...fake bin laden...actors and all" school? If so, you've reduced the argument to absurdity. if you start out from a point of denying SIMPLE known facts which have been coraborated and verified over and over, then there's just no place to take a discussion.
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by fresca
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 8:08 AM
It's nice that there are sheep like you who believe everything I say.
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by Cloak And Dagger
Saturday, May. 24, 2003 at 9:13 AM
Were the 9/11 hijackers really Arabs? Maybe not By Michael Collins Piper, Special to Arab News Published on Monday, December 31, 2001
NEW YORK, 30 December — Were those hijackers really Arabs? Would Israeli agents carry out a suicide mission that could cost American Jewish lives?
Consider these little-known facts . . . In 1986, the New York-based leader of the terrorist Jewish Defense League, Victor Vancier, gave a prophetic hint of what may have been finally played out on Sept. 11, 2001: "If you think the Shias in Lebanon are capable of fantastic acts of suicidal terrorism, the Jewish underground will strike targets that will make Americans gasp: ‘How could Jews do such things?’"
According to Vancier, quoted by Robert I. Friedman in The Village Voice on May 6, 1986, his allies were "desperate people" who "don’t care if they live or die."
Considering this warning it is entirely conceivable the "Middle Eastern" men described by passengers on the airliners were not Arabs at all.
Evidence to be explored suggests that instead, these hijackers could well have been Israeli-sponsored fundamentalist Jewish fanatics (posing as "Bin Laden Arabs") hoping to instigate an all-out US war against the Arab world.
"Jewish suicide bombers? Impossible!" cry critics. However, the fact is that there is a "suicide tradition" that is a much-revered part of Jewish history — going back to the famous mass suicide at Masada by Jewish zealots.
But in modern times, Israeli suicide missions have been undertaken. In The Other Side of Deception, former [Israeli] Mossad officer Victor Ostrovsky described one 1989 venture: The participants were "all volunteers" advised that there was effectively "no possibility of rescue should they be caught."
And what about the Arabic language heard on one airplane’s black box?
Consider a formerly secret CIA assessment, Israel: Foreign Intelligence and Security Services, dated March 1979, which reported that it is a long-standing policy for Israeli intelligence to disguise Jews as Arabs:
One of the established goals of the intelligence and security services is that each officer be fluent in Arabic. A nine-month, intensive Arabic-language course is given annually ... to students ... As further training, these Mossad officers work in the [Israeli-controlled Arab lands] for two years to sharpen their language skills.... Many Israelis have come from Arab countries where they were born and educated and appear more Arab than Israeli ... By forging passports and identity documents of Arab and Western countries and providing sound background legends and cover, Mossad has successfully sent into Egypt and other Arab countries Israelis disguised and documented as Arabs or citizens of European countries.... These persons are also useful for their ability to pass completely for a citizen of the nation in question. The Israeli talent for counterfeiting or forging foreign passports and documents ably supports the agent’s authenticity.
Pulitzer Prize-winner Jack Anderson, a supporter of Israel, wrote on Sept. 17, 1972 that: "Israeli agents —immigrants whose families had lived in Arab lands for generations — have a perfect knowledge of Arab dialects and customs. They have been able to infiltrate Arab governments with ease."
On Sept. 29, 1998, Yossi Melman, writing in Israel’s Ha’aretz, revealed that: "Shin Bet agents, who worked undercover in the Israeli-Arab sector in the 1950s, went as far as to marry Muslim women and have children with them, in an attempt to continue their mission without raising suspicion."
In fact, serious questions have been raised about the identities of the Sept. 11 "Arab hijackers."
While the [pro-Israel] media reported the ringleader’s passport conveniently landed atop rubble eight blocks from "Ground Zero," The Orlando Sentinel also reported that at least four men identified as hijackers are not dead and had nothing to do with the attacks.
In The New Yorker on Oct. 8, Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh pointed out: "Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues about the terrorists’ identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, ‘Whatever trail was left was left deliberately — for the FBI to chase.’"
Why Arabs would plant evidence implicating their own is a point mainstream [pro-Israel] media chooses not to address.
Nor has the [pro-Israel] media ever ballyhooed the "hero" who tipped off the FBI where the hijackers’ car (conveniently filled with "evidence") was parked.
And for those who would doubt that Israel would endanger American-Jews via terrorism, consider this: Hard-line Israelis are willing to kill Jews if it means assuring Israel’s survival.
The late Rabbi Meir Kahane — founder of the Jewish Defense League and one spiritual mentor of fundamentalists who support Ariel Sharon — exemplifies those willing to sacrifice other Jews to guarantee Israel’s future.
Kahane called for killing "Hellenist [i.e. Western-oriented] spiritually sick [Jews] who threaten the existence of Judaism." That would include those working in slick offices in the World Trade Center, living on Long Island, rather than kibbutzing in Israel.
Israeli journalist Yair Kotler reports in Heil Kahane that Kahane wrote: "The adoption of foreign, gentilized [i.e. non-Jewish] concepts by a Jewish state ... opens the door to a national tragedy."
In his book, Time to Go Home, Kahane called for all Jews to "go home" to Israel — the only safe place for Jews. Those who refused to "go home" were expendable. The CIA’s 1979 report on Israeli intelligence says this widely-held view mirrors "the aggressively ideological nature of Zionism."
In fact, this Jewish attitude toward the West (exactly what the media says is the Islamic attitude) has support at the Mossad’s top levels.
Robert Friedman revealed that "high-ranking members of Mossad" were directing Kahane and that the "central player" was former Mossad operations chief (and later Prime Minister) Yitzhak Shamir, an outspoken critic of America.
When Kahane said America would become "the major enemy of Israel," due to "economic disintegration, which no administration can stem," he enunciated a popular Israeli view.
In his Kahane biography, The False Prophet, Robert I. Friedman noted that Kahane’s beliefs "have taken root and have become ‘respectable’" and that Ariel Sharon is one of the "most potent supporters" of such extremism.
In the Oct. 15 issue of The New Republic, Israeli writer Yossi Klein Halevi echoed this view: "The destruction of the World Trade Center has partially rehabilitated, if only by default, the Zionist promise of safe refuge for the Jewish people.
"In the last year, it had become a much-noted irony that Israel was the country where a Jew was most likely to be killed for being a Jew. For many, the United States had beckoned as the real Jewish refuge; in a poll taken just before the Bin Laden attacks, 37 percent of Israelis said their friends or relatives were discussing emigration. That probably changed on Sept. 11.
"I was among the thousands of Israelis who crowded Kennedy Airport on the weekend after the attack, desperate to find a flight to Tel Aviv. ‘At least we’re going back where it’s safe,’ people joked.
"Everyone seemed to have a story about an Israeli living in New York who just barely escaped the devastation. If this could happen in Manhattan, the reasoning went, you might as well take your chances at home."
What Halevi describes reflects the widespread ideology known as "catastrophic Zionism" which rejects America, saying Israel is the only safe Jewish refuge.
In The Ascendance of Israel’s Radical Right, Israeli scholar Ehud Sprinzak found that these views are "a major school" of modern Israeli thought.
Sprinzak described the Israeli movement, Sikarikin, which honors ancient Jews who "conducted a systematic terror campaign against Jewish moderates who were ready to come to terms with the Romans on questions of religious purity." Israelis consider these terrorists "the symbolic defenders of religious and nationalist purity."
Another popular rabbi, Israel Ariel, will risk massive loss of Jewish lives to achieve the "elimination" of the Arab countries to guarantee Israel’s survival. The hawkish rabbi proclaims: "There is a ruling that a war is permitted as long as no more than one-sixth of the nation be killed. And this was stated in relation to an ordinary war, a fight between neighbors.
"A war for Eretz Israel does not depend on the number of casualties. The command is ‘Ase!’ (‘Do it!’), and you may be sure that the number of casualties will thus be minimal."
As far as non-Jews, Sprinzak cites Rabbi David Bar-Haim who declares the concept Jews and non-Jews are equals "stands in total contrast to the Torah of Moses, and is derived from a total ignorance and an assimilation of alien Western values.."
Ben-Haim cites 10 religious authorities who "repeatedly proposed that Gentiles are more beast than human," whereas, "only two authorities recognize non-Jews as full human beings created by God."
Bear in mind: These comments from supposed "allies" represent widespread opinion in Israel’s military and intelligence services.
Did Ariel Sharon help orchestrate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to instigate all-out US war against Israel’s enemies? Don’t discount it.
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