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The Fulcrum of Evil

by Paul F. Heller Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 11:06 AM

Check it out: We fought the wrong war.

So a bunch of Saudis broke into some pricey Saudi property, shooting their way through Saudi flesh to get to strategic locations where they were able to detonate their car-bombs, killing themselves, a few Americans and even more Saudis. The initial reaction by the Bush administration was outrage, along with a vow to bring those who plotted this slaughter to "American justice" (somebody get Bill Kurtis on the phone). The same goes for the blasts that rocked Casablanca last night. At least now, though, the world is safe from Saddam Hussein.

The general consensus by all governments affected by these horrific bombings is that they were al-Qaida jobs, probable enough. We should hope so, or else it means that yet another angry Muslim mob has targeted U.S. interests, and does not care if the means to the end involve brother-against-brother killing. As a result, all "non-essential" personnel were ordered out of Saudi Arabia, and all of this comes after a planned reduction to a bare minimum of our military presence there.

Common sense might have dictated that such redeployments would have been in order in the immediate wake of 9/11. Had George W. Bush not developed a fixation on Iraq that pre-dates the 2000 election, he might have responded more in accordance with all of those very impressive speeches. Since this White House seems to be coated with a thick layer of anti-intelligence Teflon, we went ahead and wasted hundreds of millions of dollars (and more important, months of time) pursuing a bunch of nobodies who posed a threat only to themselves and their Arab brethren, who had them geographically surrounded anyhow.

The amount of gravity the president tried to hang on Iraq became so obvious, after only a few weeks of fighting, that the administration had to shift their stated motivation from the old "weapons of mass destruction" argument to the more esoteric "liberation of the Iraqi people", which smells just like what it is. But the more the critics tried to tell us that the whole thing was a farce, the more Bush pinned his ears back and kept trudging stubbornly ahead.

No animal will do that unless he's got blinders on, and our strange unwillingness to keep our eye on the ball where al-Qaida is concerned allowed them the time to plot this latest atrocious (and coordinated) attack. Can I say that? Just look at the sheer amount of man- and fire-power that was used against Iraq. Direct that instead into wiping out al-Qaida, however you go about it, and try to decide whether or not we as Americans would be safer today from the likes of Osama bin Laden.

Check it out. We fought the wrong war.

Now only a couple of seasons remain before campaign season begins, and Bush the nation builder will have to stop his push for Middle East success as he tries to keep his job, despite a pathetic American economy, rampant unemployment and a deficit so high that even Ronald Reagan will remember it. In the interim, our military (since it is oiled and loaded and in place) will probably be used to sack the regime in Iran. Their pursuit of nuclear technology will be the reasoning behind the pre-emptive strike. Thus, candidate Bush will be able to say he has taken out two-thirds (he was always good at math) of his "axis of evil", and that should play well to his constituents.

Those blinders conceal one small thing. Along the way, with our grousing about North Korea and Iran "going nucular", we have learned to ignore the true source of those two thorns in our foot, and also the womb of the Taliban. The real purveyors of hatred toward the U.S. are in Pakistan. With its Islamic madrasas churning out young martyrs by the thousands, the one thing you can definitely say about terrorism is that it is not about to go away, not with such a prime breeding ground. Pakistan has also given enriched-uranium technology to both North Korea and Iran. But the official line on Pakistani President-General Pervez Musharraf is that he is "our good friend". The Pakis - Bush's term - have gone a long way in helping us root out terrorism.

So they take our money, while their people hide al-Qaida members in their lawless frontier, and the government rounds up a few people now and then to keep themselves in our good graces. And for every grown-up one that they hand over to the FBI, another little one is given to the mullahs for the dark side of Islamic indoctrination. And the martyrs keep graduating, and the bombs keep exploding. Before too much longer, the bombs might be bigger than anything seen since 1945. We might have asked the democratic government of India about that, as they continue to suffer terrorist attacks in the disputed mountain region of Kashmir, and find themselves deadlocked in atomic attrition with Pakistan. But we didn't listen to India when they tried to tell us about 9/11, so why should we listen to them now, or ever?

Especially when there are, you know, so many other things to do. Like cut taxes. And count oil receipts. A president has a busy schedule, and can't be all things to all people. But he tries. You know he tries.

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Saudi Bombings = Pakistan?

by mediawatcher Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 2:18 PM

What is Mr. Heller in his moderate white liberalist minf hinking? How you figure pointing

the finger at Pakistan provides a solution to the current "crisis" of terrorist attacks in

Saudi Arabia?

Just as white people are in denial of their privilege, they are in denial of the source of

terrorist aggression. Remind yourself again of how many of the 9-11 attackers were

from Saudi Arabia. Remind yourself of how much of an affront to the Muslim world the

U.S. presense in S.A. is--more offensive than the occupation of Iraq could ever be--although

the US needs to get the fuck out of there too.

I question who is really behind these latest attacks since they provide a convenient

pretense for the US to maintain a military presence in S.A. at a time when they were

planning to reduce it. Even the FBI had to (on the surface mind you) give in to the

Saudi demands that they send in a smaller investigation crew.

Wrong war my ass. Wrong invasion is more like it, wrong occupation. The whole western

occupation of all of the Middle East is wrong (Israel, Iraq, S.A., etc.). Get a fucken clue.

At this point, Al Qaeda and the U.S. military might as well be on the same payroll as

each provide justification for the other in the region.

Pakistan and India have just re-opened diplomatic relations, hopefully ending the threat

of a nuclear conflict in the region. Unfortunately, the next round of terrorist attacks (the

consequence of the US invasion of Iraq and their neglect of other factions) will

undoubtably take place in Middle East, far from Heller's home and loved ones, so he

need not worry unless bush ALLOWS them to attack US soil again (read the implications

about what really happened on 911 and why the adminstration is trying to block the

congressional investigation's report).

Get a clue, then get the fuck out of the Middle East.

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Yeah, let's get out of the mideast.

by daveman Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 2:34 PM

Out of Turkey. Out of Saudi. Out of Oman. Out of Qatar, Bahrain, UAE. (Out of Europe, too, for that matter, but that's a different thread.)

Then watch freedom bloom throughout all the freshly-vacated places...uh, I mean, sink further into the cesspool of hatred, terrorism, and barbarism that they want so desperatley to vanish into.

Suits me.

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Works for me....

by Sheepdog Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 3:06 PM

As long as we clean the leavings of the CIA out

of all the structures they have in place to create

the terrorists.

Use our agricultural might to promote goodwill instead

of using it to leverage GMO monopolies.

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by daveman Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 3:42 PM

Pull everything out.

No troops, no spooks, no farmers, no advice, no cash. Don't buy their oil; don't sell them squat.

If the Euroweenies are so concerned, let them pick up the US's slack.

Then, when terror attacks against US interests STILL happen, maybe then the world will realize what a danger radical Islam really is.

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by Sheepdog Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 3:51 PM

The old 'WMD' defence/offence, eh?

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Again, nope.

by daveman Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 3:58 PM

Just that by removing everything, we give them no reason to hate us, right?

Except for, presumably, the belief they have a "right" to American foreign aid dollars.

Egypt displays rabid anti-American sentiment in the state-run media...and constantly has their hand out.

Cut 'em off, I say. Let them sink back down into the 13th century. It won't be a long trip.

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well. It's about time

by Sheepdog Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 3:59 PM

Are you ready to do some work in the real world now?

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by fresca Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 4:01 PM

I'm all for this here idea the two of you have somehow agreed upon.

Let's get out of the Middle East ENTIRELY.

But...we should offer northern CA to Israel.

They'd be annihilated if we pull out. Let's give them some of the land that's going to waste here in America.

Win-Win situation as far as I can see.

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What do you...

by daveman Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 4:02 PM

...have in mind?

How should the US behave in the ME?

You don't want a military or intelligence presence there, obviously. What should we do?

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yes, my liver lover

by Sheepdog Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 4:04 PM

Give them California AND Mexico.

You'll want to come over and visit me.

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well now

by fresca Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 4:07 PM

I doubt that they'd want Mexico. They'd probably take their chances with the arab hordes.

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They can have...

by daveman Sunday, May. 18, 2003 at 11:55 PM

...San Franciso, too.

Judging from sf-imc, there's nobody with any sense there now.

Then again, maybe that's not a good idea. Those wackos are so anti-Semetic they make Hitler look like an amateur.

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nuck, nuck...

by Sheepdog Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 2:15 AM

oh now because were not cheering baby shooting, we're anti-semite.

And to ballance it, because you are too lame to understand

that you ARE a moron, just because we don't cheer bus bombings

or ANY civilians getting wasted, we aren't anti-matter.

Do you even believe anyone is BUYING what you're selling


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nuck, nuck...

by Sheepdog Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 2:25 AM

oh now because were not cheering IDF murder, we're anti-semite.

And to ballance it, because you are too lame to understand

that you ARE a moron, just because we don't cheer bus bombings

or ANY civilians getting wasted, we aren't anti-matter.

Do you even believe anyone is BUYING what you're selling


oh, how was the beer? Did Eric make it home ok?

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and furthermore...

by Sheepdog Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 5:40 AM

isn't SC a gnat infested hell hole?

no mountains, to speak of, lots of rattlers

and other toxic cousins and ahh the tornadoes

and lightning storms? Have fun.

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I'd take SC...

by daveman Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 9:34 AM

...over the moral sewer that is California every time.

"oh now because were not cheering baby shooting, we're anti-semite."

No, you're anti-Semite because you applaud the Paleostinians bombing busloads of kids. Have you spent any time on sf-imc? Any posts critical of the Paleos are immediately yanked. Freedom of speech, huh? I guess some animals really are more equal than others.

Dunno about the beer; I wasn't about to drive 2 1/2 hours to get a brew. I don't even like beer. Tequila, now, that's another story...

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you fit right in, daveman

by Sheepdog Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 12:05 PM

the state is terribly provincial on the whole

with huge disparities in income. Industry rules

without the bother of unions. Poor

soil covered with diamond backs (tasty) pines

and people in poverty. You lucky devil.

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And the implication, of course...

by daveman Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 6:17 PM that California is a better place.

Pass, thanks.

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it is

by Sheepdog Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 6:33 PM

that's why we stole it from mexico.

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by daveman Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 8:14 PM

That most Americans have been brainwashed to believe that "terrorists" are the greatest threat to freedom and democracy.

If they go unchecked, they might take over the entire world.

(remember the old SOviet threat? What about those Vietnamese?)

We live in Fear.

We think that the enemy is hate..

But it is actually fear.

Is the Middle East in grave danger of being a cornerstone of a new world order?

I doubt it.

What to do about the middle east?


Pull out all American interests and use the money that we are paying over there to finance an american that we all may enjoy one day.


I think we should nuke israel first.

(violation of UN security council resolutions)

(over 50 violations)

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meds needed

by Sheepdog Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 8:40 PM

for me at least...wait a moment.

well. Nice start even if you fell out of bed there at the end.

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fake guy

by daveman Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 10:03 PM

Not even close.

See, the point of doing imitaions is to try to make people think you're the person you're imitating. Like I said, not even close.

'..."terrorists" are the greatest threat to freedom and democracy.'

Personally, I think the greatest threat to freedom and democracy are cowardly buttheads who post crap under other peoples' names.

Wassa matter, fake guy? Too chicken to post your opinions under your own name? Too afraid people might find out how you feel?


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by daveman Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 10:04 PM

"that's why we stole it from mexico."

Give it back.

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by Dr. Sigmund Fruit Tuesday, May. 20, 2003 at 1:55 PM

Watch out! The "fake guy" is hiding under your bed!! Seek professional help, you nutcase.

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