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THE ARABS ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR THE WTC ATTACK.
The evidence is such that the only people we can be sure DID NOT carry out the WTC bombing are the Arabs.

The trouble with the case against bin Laden, so far, is that it is laughable. It is a joke.

1. The WTC attack, described as brilliantly planned and executed by professionals, who some how forget to acquire (easily obtainable) false driver's licenses for identification and, if you can believe it (and most people can not) used their real names when boarding the aircraft. The FBI suspect list was comprised using the assumption that those on the passenger lists had used their real names (real smart,.. these guys really earn their money eh?).
2. These same professionals, leave a car at an airport (which is found within hours of the attack,.. what a surprise!) with incriminating documents (a flight training manual in Arabic). Professionals, (actually any sane persons) not wanting their "ground support" to be compromised, would take taxis to the airports.
3. When it is established that many, if not all the hi-jackers were using false identities the FBI suspect list does change (yeah, morons run the FBI).
4. One of the accused carries a passport on an internal flight (in case he wants to travel overseas after the attack).
5. This passport, originally in the accuseds luggage or on his person, rips through the suitcase or jacket, punches a hole through the WTC, survives the fireball and then flutters to the ground a few blocks away. Fortunately, the passport had the name of the accused on it and is generally in great condition, although apparently somewhat muddy.
6. One of the accused (Mohammed Atta) packs a suitcase (in case he wants to visit relatives for a few days after the attack) with a "how to be a terrorist in the US" document (just part of the professionalism, mentioned above) that just happens not to be loaded on the plane (so that the incriminating document survives,.. what a surprise!).
7. Mohammed Atta travels to Portland Maine to fly to Boston (why not drive straight to Boston) and transfers to the suicide flight. This is utterly unbelievable. This introduces a huge potential problem. What happens if his flight is delayed (and remember, the connection was so tight that Mohammed's baggage didn't it). How embarrassing for the so called leader of the terrorists, if he can't make his connection. That would throw a spanner in the works. Transferring flights like this offers no upside but huge downside, and is considerable evidence that Atta has been framed.
8. And do not forget that phone calls were made from the planes blamed the hijacking on Israelis (actually, they used the words "middle eastern looking" but we all know that many Israelis are very middle eastern looking).

These laughable "facts" which all point to the Arabs can be viewed as strong evidence that the WTC was not carried out by the Arabs. These nonsense "facts" all point to an event where someone is being framed.

So the only people we can be sure did not carry out the WTC bombing are the Arabs.

This one is one of my favorites.

I think the attacks were carried out by elements of the NRA, in conjunction with the Rand corporation and space vampires....All the sign are very clear. Open your eyes people. You live in ignorance at your own peril.

ahhhh dumb americans.

i wish i could be a thougltless butterfly floating aimlessly among the spring blossoms just so that i could be like an american

All of the evidence points to Bush and Israel. No solid evidence points to Arabs. The right wingers posting above are just Nazi shills, ignore them.

...were made from the planes but we all know that many Israelis are very middle eastern looking).

Hey, The New X is what, sorry, Sri Lankan? He looks Middle Eastern.

SRI LANKANS DID IT!!

Nice thinly-veiled anti-Semitism, too: "...blamed the hijacking on Israelis (actually, they used the words "middle eastern looking"...)"

1. None of the 19 alleged hijackers names show up on any of the Airline Passenger Lists.

2. 8 of those named by the FBI have been identified as still among the living. Either they teleported out of the aircraft at the last minute or they were not on board.

3. The FBI had identified the 19 within 24 hours. Interestingly fast since this was a "sneak attack" carried out by "unknown" persons.

4. The night of the Attacks Orrin Hatch already knew it was Osama Bin Forgotten and said so in a Television interview. ????? Was his Crystal Ball tuned in?

5. Slightly over a month before the 911 attacks John Ashcroft had ceased flying commericial citing unspecified "threats".

6 The Israeli Communications Company Odigo received a 2 hour advance warning to evacuate their facilities at the WTC. Another Crystal Ball?

7. 5 Israeli's were arrested as suspicious as they were photographing the smoking ruins of the Towers and High Fiving each other. Our Allies? They were Mossad, were released, and left the country within 72 hours.

8. Total number of verified Israeli Casualties at the Towers: 1

9. The Moving Company for which the High Fiving Israeli's worked shut down suddenly a week after 911. The owner fled to Israel.

These are just a few of the anomalies surrounding 911.

911 - What Really Happened?

To the extent that anyone has even taken the Israeli theory seriously enough to even investigate, everyone of these ludicrous fantasies has been thouroughly debunked.

But, since you all are obvious racists, I expect no less from you.

Let 'em have their "Bush = Hitler = JOOOS = Satan" Global Right-Wing/Zionist Conspiracy fun.

It's interesting to see such baseless, laughable, and impotent genocidal rage and hatred in action. All they do is work themselves into a rabid, slavering tizzy. Good thing none of them have the actual courage to do anything about it, except for posting on InmdyMedia, which, according to Dio ("I encourage independent thought that leads solely to the conclusions I set forth!"), will Make the World Safe For Humanity (tm).

I used to think, "Man, nobody could be so blind and stupid as to blame one small population for the world's evils, could they?"

And yet here they are, on IndyMedia, 24/7, in Glorious Hate-O-Vision (tm)!

Pop quiz: How do you behave like a normal, rational human being?

A: Read Indymedia, and think and say and believe the exact opposite.

...how daveman is reduced to Bush Admirerisms....

..the attitudes reflected in my post above are the true feelings of IndyMedia?

What do your posts have in common with anything here except the morons?

You keep screaming 'irrelevant' at us as we chuckle.

HaHa.

Good going, you need better writers for this stuff.....

It's so stale.

...or no question, sheepdog.

Do you actually deny the attitudes reflected in my post above are the true feelings of IndyMedia?

I don't need to tell you this but, of course, don't hold your breath.

But I thought he might actually fall for it.

Curses! Foiled again!

...you misspoke: "You keep screaming 'irrelevant' at us as we chuckle."

That should be, "You keep screaming 'irrelevant' at us THEN chuckle."

'Cause that's what's really happening, isn't it?

Ha ha!

somebody up there said: "Pop quiz: How do you behave like a normal, rational human being?

A: Read Indymedia, and think and say and believe the exact opposite.

fuck.../if bein' a luver ub class.lit mean i muss lub all de guy dat rite da stuu..? HeckNo, nugglegoofdragger

Since none of U have any evidence and are nothing but petty commoners who build opinion on what they are told, by the media or otherwise, I suggest that U dont try to push ur opinion on others. It could have been the jews and it could have been the arabs. It could have been both together, it could have been the NSA or it could have been elvis.None of U can say otherwise with certainty. There are facts pertaining to and discrediting all theories. Till then try to act like Sherlock holmes, do ur own research and reach ur own conclusions; and dont act like Dr. Watsons of bitches.

"...are nothing but petty commoners..."

Leave the class warfare crap at the door when you come in.

More superiority from someone who has no rational basis for it. Spare me.

but class war.

daveman just doesn't know he's on the loosing side yet.

...you first have to have some class.

Unless you mean the wanna-be socialist posers out there, who don't realize socialism is dead and buried. Pretty Goth, isn't it, to have this fascination with dead things...and more than a little disturbing.

They say opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one.. But your different.. your just one big asshole; socialism, class war where did u pull that out from? There is nothing wrong with being an ordinary person but there is something bad about being ordinary and thinking ur extraordinary. Try and stick to the topic einstein.

...Skippy.

Pay attention.

"They say opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one..."

Yeah...and both of your smell the same.

I brought up the class thing.

take notes if you can't keep up.

Sheepdog, Omar wrote this:

"Since none of U have any evidence and are nothing but petty commoners..."

Class distinction.

Get it?

But be it far it be for me, from the solid rock of

humility, to presume what someone else meant when they

use this silly language.

But I did use the term in it's literal meaning and

you responded with a reference to a lack thereof.

Class war has been going on for a long time, and you don't

even know you are loosing from the tone of your script.

...opinion there are only 2 classes:

Those who believe in Freedom and Justice for all.

And

Those who don't.

or..

live or dead ones

sleeping or awake

yes the universe of polars.

yin & yang

I like Devo.

tch tch tch... Do u ever feel like the soldier who wrote home saying the whole copany was out of step except for himself.... since ur too thick to get it, let me explain to you that I was not referring to social and class differences... if u would take the time from your busy schedule to think you would realise that WAS NOT my point. and why are u so against socialism? Karl Marx was a jew.

I'm much too simpleminded to understand your post. I am but a neoconservative.

"But be it far it be for me, from the solid rock of

humility, to presume what someone else meant when they

use this silly language.

But I did use the term in it's literal meaning and

you responded with a reference to a lack thereof.

Class war has been going on for a long time, and you don't

even know you are loosing from the tone of your script."

Learn how to spell, type and punctuate. Your meanderings are bordering on a whole new syntax.

now the world has to use YOUR dictionary?

what does 'giddering' mean?

"what does 'giddering' mean?"

Uh, couldn't tell you. Give me a hint.

And, no they don't. But, they should if they expect anyone to communicate with them.

"by paranoid gidderish from sheepdog • Saturday May 03, 2003 04:05 PM"

I was wondering what you were blithering about.

"...I was not referring to social and class differences..."

Right. And when I speak of bats, gloves, and the infield double rule, I'm not talking about baseball.

Face it: You're just another snob.

Marx was a Jew? That must be very confusing for you...you don't know whether to hate him or love him...

Loosing side??

I thought the whole point of this no war but class war thing was that you ARE loosing.

our defence is that you will loose even worse if you put your stalinist buddies in control which you cant help but do.

We love you! Would you like an IDF rifle signed by Ariel Sharon?

Yes sure send it..

I can sell it.

Would you like an IDF rifle signed by Ariel Sharon?

Send it to sharon. Bullet end first.

1) Your heading is correct, I don't think anyone believes that THE arabs are responsible for the WTC attack anymore than people believe THE blacks did this or THE jews did that. However, most of the world believes that the people who conducted the attack were arab.

2) Your listing does not provide any evidence at all. I suggest you look at the defination of evidence. You merely provided a short unconnected listing of connections or conclusions you inferred from some articles you read in Newsweek or whereever.

A found passport is evidence. You may claim it is planted evidence but it is evidence. 'Reasoning' that the passport should not be there is not evidence, its conjecture.

***A found passport is evidence. You may claim it is planted evidence but it is

evidence.***

no, it's pure BS. only a moron could believe it.

only a PR type would attempt to push it. Sorry, Mr. Canyon.

no, it's pure BS. only a moron could believe it.

- just because there is a fireball or an explosion does not mean that everything reached the same temperatures or came under the same pressure. somthing will always get pushed aside some bits of metal will not get so hot etc etc.

There are lots of examples of people "miraculously" surviving accidents baised on luck - just being out of the way of the fireball and the roof coming down.

If a plane full of mail crashed near and upwind of my house I would expect almost certainly to get some part of a letter in the wind. It would be ridiculous to expect every little bit to be incinerated