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Analysis Of White House Obstruction Of 911 Investigations

by Joel Skousen Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 6:23 PM

* Why has the government refused to make public the recorded pilots conversations with Air Traffic Control, notifying them of a hijacking in progress? We know these conversations took place because the FAA has confirmed having reported the hijackings to NORAD within minutes of their commencement.

Analysis Of White House Obstruction Of 911 Investigations
By Joel Skousen
jskousen@qwest.net
World Affairs Brief
5-10-3

The Bush administration, the CIA, and the FBI are all refusing to cooperate with Congress as the latter tries to release for publication its 900-page report on the 9/11 terror attack on the WTC. The report contains numerous critical comments about administration and intelligence agency mishandling of forewarnings received by agents in the field-including a warning from an FBI agent that al-Qaeda supporters might be training in US flight schools. This story, and many others that are even more damaging, has already been leaked to the public either by establishment sources or by internet news sources-and yet the administration is adamant that these same stories must remain classified and not be released as part of the report. Obviously, the administration doesn't want these reports to benefit from the increased credibility that a mention in a Congressional report would endow.
 
This particular Congressional report is unrelated to the independent 9/11 Commission [http://www.9-11commission.gov/] that was so slow in getting underway, and will be even slower at answering the questions presented by representatives of the victim's families [http://www.911commission.org/]. Given the less than comprehensive scope of the questions posed to the commission, as well as the establishment make-up of the commissions panel members, I don't expect anything revealing regarding government foreknowledge, failure to respond, and cover-up of suspicious activities to come out of its investigation. Even this commission is being stonewalled by the Bush administration. Newsweek magazine has reported that, "President Bush's chief lawyer has privately signaled that the White House may seek to invoke executive privilege over key documents relating to the attacks in order to keep them out of the hands of investigators for the National Commission on Terror Attacks Upon the United States-the independent panel created by Congress to probe all aspects of 9-11."
 
The members of the commission have all had to get security clearances to be on the panel. After the government delayed issuing the clearances for months, members are still not being given full access. As Newsweek reported, "Just two weeks ago, one commission member, Tim Roemer, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana, had sought to read transcripts of three days of closed hearings that had been held last fall by the House and Senate Intelligence Committees-hearings that Roemer, as a member of the House panel, had actually participated in. But when Roemer went down to a carefully guarded room on Capitol Hill to read the classified transcripts-he says to refresh his memory-he was stunned to learn that he couldnât have access to them. The reason, relayed by a congressional staffer, was that·administration lawyers [must] first review them to determine if the transcripts contained testimony about "privileged material." Obviously, the White House is trying to suppress something.
 
A couple of the victims' representatives did ask some crucial questions, such as why official Defense protocols were not followed, and why the NY Port Authority delayed evacuation of the second tower, but they failed to ask any of the really tough questions that point to government collusion and provocation:
 
* Why has the government refused to make public the recorded pilots conversations with Air Traffic Control, notifying them of a hijacking in progress? We know these conversations took place because the FAA has confirmed having reported the hijackings to NORAD within minutes of their commencement.
 
* Why has the government denied having intercepted Flight 93 over Pennsylvania with 2 F-16s, despite the voluminous evidence that the airliner was shot down and shadowed to its crash by an unmarked jet leased to the government?
 
* Why were most military tower operators in the area told to ground all flights from taking off, including fighter interceptors?
 
* How and why were the reported cell phone calls from passengers on the hijacked airliners faked? Recent tests have shown that cell phones at high altitudes do not communicate with antenna towers on the ground. Almost all cellular and PCS systems utilize antennas which are only oriented for horizontal reception--not vertical.
 
* How did the US so quickly develop complete profiles and dossiers on all the supposed hijackers, including their night club activities, if these individuals were not previously being tracked by government agents? There is also the question of the long trail of incriminating letters, passports and flight manuals supposedly left behind by the hijackers at the airport or, in the case of the intact passport, miraculously recovered in the WTC debris.
 
* Why has the government never amended the list of alleged hijackers given that eight of these names belong to people still living? The government has never given a rational explanation for why hijackers would use their real names in any case.
 
* Why were the alleged hijackers whose names were on terror watch lists given visas, without the proper documentation normally required?
 
* What is the relationship between Huffman Aviation (the Venice, FL company that trained two of the hijackers) and the CIA, which leases space in Huffmanâs hangar through a front company?
 
* Why did the hijackers who could barely speak English attempt (unsuccessfully) to take flying lessons for small planes when there was an Arab-speaking flight school for major aircraft in Fort Worth, Texas? [They were covering for training on major aircraft received elsewhere.]
 
* Why did certain investors know to short the stocks of American airline companies prior to 9/11? Along the same lines, why has the government never attempted to subpoena Wall Street computer records to find out who these "lucky" investors were?
 
* Why have the testimonies of New York firefighters who heard bomb-like explosions in the towers during the evacuation process been suppressed?
 
The evidence of internal explosives being associated with the bringing down of the two buildings has been compelling, yet frustrating given its often amateurish assumptions. (One of these is that burning jet fuel would have had to melt the steel structures in order to precipitate the collapse-which is false. The heat need only have been sufficient to soften the metal beams and trusses, causing them to sag and fail). Claims concerning evidence of planted charges on all floors, leading to a controlled collapse of the WTC buildings, have never been credible to me (such a scheme is too complex, involving hundreds of small charges). However, there is new evidence that charges at the bases of the towersâ 47 centralsteel columns could have precipitated the controlled vertical collapse of the buildings, and still have been consistent with the legitimate failure of the upper floor trusses reacting to the sudden collapse of central support. One crew of first responders into the first tower were shocked to see that the lobby on the main floor appeared to have been the object of an explosive blast-yet no signs of fire. On 9/11, two ABC reporters were filmed running away from the towers after seeing and hearing a ground floor explosion just prior to the collapse of the towers. There have also been reports of pools of molten metal at the base of these columns observed during debris removal. It is suspicious that the government threatened fire fighters who had heard other explosions to keep silent, and also that they ordered the tower debris removed so quickly, precluding complete forensic testing of the failed structure. The same thing happened after the Oklahoma bombing, where there was also irrefutable evidence of multiple charges and explosions.
 
World Affairs Brief c. 2003 Joel Skousen
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I wonder why it is...

by Diogenes Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 6:27 PM

...that the Bush Junta is so desirous of suppressing any real investigation into what happened on 9-11?

I thought Duhbya was committed to finding our what really happened? ROFL! (Tears of sadness and outrage.)


Something to hide?


9-11 What Really Happened?
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since you asked

by systemfailure Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 7:25 PM

"9-11 What Really Happened?"

Muslim terrorists hit us.
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what really happened on 9-11

by mediawatcher Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 8:33 PM

Terrorists from Saudi Arabia (13 of them were from SA) carried out a planned attack on the US that the
Bush Administration was given a fare warning of.

The Bush Administration didn't take it seriously, perhaps because it was in there interest to see what would happen (if it was conducive to their war plans for Afghanistan and Iraq which were already on the table), or to cover their ass for their culpability in arming the terrorists to begin with.

Bush ran like a fucking wuss while Americans died.

The Saudi Terrorists and their Egyptian comrades are responsible for the actual attack, but Bush
is guilty of not taking the necessary precautions to protect America.

Bush failed to protect America and should be impeached.
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Don't forget

by fresca's mossad director Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 8:46 PM

don't forget our part in it even if fresca was out of
the loop (alcoholics are poor security risks) without
a clue. But she does put in her time, so she's still
on the payroll. She's so persistant, it makes up for a lot.
Not too bright though. She believes everyone is as stupid
as she is.
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the government lies.....we die

by the real "systemfailure" Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 1:30 AM

Looks like fascist frescas been at it again.
Trolling my name to get her jollies......
9-11 was a huge cover up
The families of 911 had to go to congress to get answers
and they attempted to cover it up also.
It was an economic hit on the world business community
to lauch an offensive war against the poor defenseless peoples
of afganistan and iraq.
Wheres saddam?
wheres bin laden?
Better find out
cuz we;re all PAYING for it.
ps
fuck fascist fresca
although
I am a bit flattered that she would go out of her way to
try to discredit my name....
Maybe i will change it just to piss her offf.
maybe i wont
SySTeMF@iLuRe RuLeZ
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To mediawatcher...

by Diogenes Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 5:11 AM

...you are getting warm, but reality is we don't know for sure who the perpetrators of 9-11 really were.

We have been TOLD they were Arab Terrorists but there are a few things that disturb that theory.

The FBI director admitted a few months back that there was really nothing firm to pin it to the named people. Anyone can manufacture a trail of Credit Card Receipts for a false trail. Their is no hard physical evidence - at least none made public.

8 of the alleged hijackers names have been idendified as belonging to people still among the living. 2 or 3 others have been tied to persons deceased elsewhere.

The burning Kerosene melted the steel supports does not hold up and thoroughly explain why all the towers collapsed in a UNIFORM, SYMMETRICAL, CONTROLLED, collapse. Nor does it explain the Seismic recordings made of possible explosions in the moments before the collapse. ??????

The official Conspiracy Theory provides insufficient motivation for the attacks. "They hate our freedoms?" I don't think so.

No PROOF has ever been presented linking Osama bin Forgotten to the attacks other than allegations from the obviously dishonest Bush Junta. ????????

Why was the best Air Defense Command in the World Asleep at the Wheel for TWO HOURS. The same NORAD that had an F-15 alongside the late Payne Stewart's wayward Lear Jet in TEN MINUTES. ??????

There are more unanswered questions. These are just a few.

9-11 What Really Happened?
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Magic Inc.

by Heinlein Reader Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 5:26 AM

Don't forget about the passport.
Forged on Kyrpton, and transported
out of the rubble.
" hey guys,[wink] look what I found!"
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We DEMAND acountability.

by Bumper Sticker Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 8:29 AM

We DEMAND to KNOW
The TRUTH about 9-11
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hmmm

by fresca Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 11:49 AM

"We DEMAND to KNOW
The TRUTH about 9-11"


What part of arab terrorists attacked us with hijacked planes is confusing you?

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Oh yes, arabs, thank you, mossad.

by fuzzsnake Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 12:13 PM

There is no CREDITABLE evidence (meaning not obviously
planted) of ANYONE highjacking the four aircraft.
They just magically flew around and into buildings, the
ones that weren't shot down.
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Well

by fresca Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 12:42 PM

As proud as I'd be to be in the Mossad, sadly I'm not.

But I will ask you this. And please brush up on your awful spelling before you post.

Given that many arabs have already claimed responsibility and that there is surveilance video of arabs boarding the plane and those arabs have been verifiably linked to al queda and that NUMEROUS cellphone calls from the hijacked planes described the ARAB hijackers as , well what do you know, ARAB, please give even a small piece of evidence from your obviously overflowing source of information that IN ANY WAY disputes the accepted and verified facts I've just laid out.

Again, I thabk you for the compliment about my being in the MOssad and please learn to spell. Typo's are one thing but atrocious spelling signifies a dull intellect.

Now chop chop "looser".
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There are no...

by Diogenes Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 3:46 PM

...surveillance tapes of Arabs boarding the Airliners. There are surveillance tapes of Mohammed Atta and friends taken at the Airport the night before.

Another unanswered question: None of the 4 airliners transmitted a hijack distress signal which the pilot can do in a couple of seconds by punching in a 4 digit code.

Let me repeat that: NONE OF THE FOUR AIRLINERS TRANSMITTED THE STANDARD 4 DIGIT DISTRESS CODE TO SIGNAL A HIJACKING - NONE - N-O-N-E - NONE. WHY?

Why were the Air National Guard ordered to Stand Down in the days preceding the attack? Why?

The "Plane" that hit the Pentagon, per Air Traffic Control, dropped in tight spiral 7000 feet in 2 Minutes to level off at Tree Top height, even clipping the tops of a few Trees in a maneuver that at least one controller described as Military Like in precision. Remember this was a Passenger Aircraft not an F-15. This was also done by a Pilot who had supposedly never flown, other than in a simulator, a Jet aircraft of any type. The Cessna's in their flight school were single engine light Propeller Driven Aircraft with a top speed of around 220 MPH - not 450 Plus MPH the speed of the Jets.
Does this make sense?

9-11 What Really Happened?
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Dio

by fresca Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 4:23 PM

I beg to differ on the videos but even that notwithstanding, what's your point?

I don't have answers why certain things that were "supposed" to happen didn't.
Who knows why the pilots acted the way they did?

You're questions are interesting in the sense that they illustrate how NOTHING happens the way we expect it to but do nothing to change the irrefutable fact that arab terrorists hijacked planes and crashed them into American targets.

Not even Arab groups have wasted a breath claiming that this was not the case.

Believe what you want but the answers you're so desperate for don't exist.

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If there are simple and innocuous...

by Diogenes Monday, May. 12, 2003 at 4:33 PM

...answers to all these questions then why is the Bush Junta so admant about preventing the publication of even information already in the Public Domain?

Why does the jet going into the Pentagon (captured on a security camera and admittedly not of the best quality) apparently not match the profile of a 757?

Why didn't the FBI release the air traffic controller's protocols? Why have they, the controllers, to this day not been allowed to talk to the press?
Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info?
Why were several of the Flight Data Recorders, designed to withstand any conceivable crash, said by the FBI to be inoperable and unreadable (particularly some of the cockpit conversations)?

How were all hijackers identified just 24 hours after the attack?
Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list until 2 days after the hijacker list was released?
Why do none of the hijacker’s names appear on the passenger lists United Airlines and American Airlines gave to CNN? There are no Middle-Eastern/Islamcic names on the original lists. (I have copies if you would like one.)
Why do the seat positions of the hijackers in the FBI report differ from the seat numbers given by Stewardesses in the hijacked planes (reported via cellphone calls)?
Eight of the names the FBI published as the purported hijackers are proven to be alive and were elsewhere on the planet at the time of the attack. (This is proven and I can document it. Would you like a copy?)
Why did the FBI ignore, and allow to leave unquestioned, Bin Laden's family, who left the United States the day after the attack? U.S. airspace was closed to ALL AIR TRAVEL at the time.

THE BIN LADEN VIDEO
1. Why did the Pentagon release a new video version or translation of the Bin Laden home video?
2. Why was it released only 8 hours after a translation by the German magazine MONITOR was released? (MONITOR did their own translation which was very different from the one released previously by the U.S. Government. The MONITOR article proved there were major inaccuarcies in the U.S. Government translation.)
3. When was the Bin Laden Home Video found and who found it?
4. Who found the video if Northern Alliance and US troops had not yet arrived in Kandahar or Jahalabad?
5. Does the timestamp on the Bin Laden video indicate that it was found two weeks after it was produced?
6. Why was the public not informed who found the video and when?
7. Why, according to MONITOR magazine, were the most controversial statements translated incorrectly?
8. Why was the video released?
9. Why after a lot of valid questions arose about the films authenticity was it dropped, like it had never existed, from mainstream press reports, and Bush Administration PR flacks ceased heralding it as “the smoking gun”?

I don’t pretend to have answers to these questions. But, they are valid and there are many more anomalies associated with the “attack”. Would you like some more?

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." -- Julius Caesar
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ONE MORE TIME AROUND

by ONE MORE TIME AROUND Friday, Jun. 06, 2003 at 10:46 AM

ONE MORE TIME AROUND
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