We had a server outage, and we're rebuilding the site. Most of the site features won't work. Thank you for your patience.
imc indymedia

Los Angeles Indymedia : Activist News

white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Calendar Publish RSS
latest news
best of news




A-Infos Radio

Indymedia On Air

Dope-X-Resistance-LA List


IMC Network:

Original Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol brussels bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia london madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice northern england norway oost-vlaanderen paris/Île-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech

Surviving Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: canada: quebec east asia: japan europe: athens barcelona belgium bristol brussels cyprus germany grenoble ireland istanbul lille linksunten nantes netherlands norway portugal united kingdom latin america: argentina cmi brasil rosario oceania: aotearoa united states: austin big muddy binghamton boston chicago columbus la michigan nyc portland rochester saint louis san diego san francisco bay area santa cruz, ca tennessee urbana-champaign worcester west asia: palestine process: fbi/legal updates process & imc docs projects: radio satellite tv
printable version - js reader version - view hidden posts - tags and related articles

Flag Waivers Continu to Gut the Bill of Rights

by OzzyO Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 6:16 AM

Constitutional amendment on flag desecration is back again Supporters say bill stands better chance after war with Iraq

Saturday, May 10, 2003

Constitutional amendment on flag desecration is back again

Supporters say bill stands better chance after war with Iraq



WASHINGTON -- Supporters of another drive for a constitutional amendment against flag burning say they hope a wave of patriotism inspired by the Iraqi war will push the measure toward victory.

The constitutional amendment is expected to win House approval as soon as next week for the fifth time but encounter a tougher hurdle in the Senate.

Supporters of the amendment, mostly Republicans, concede that flag burning has become rare since the protests against the Vietnam War in the 1960s but they say a ban is needed to protect an important American symbol from occasional desecration.

Foes of the proposed amendment argue that it would weaken the Bill of Rights by allowing federal laws banning physical desecration of the flag when such acts are political expression. Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, R-Calif., the chief sponsor and a decorated pilot in the Vietnam War, said the timing is more favorable this year as Memorial Day approaches under threat of terrorism and U.S. troops are coming home from Iraq.

"It tends to make people want to rally around the church and the flag," Cunningham said. "These symbols are very important. Why let people desecrate them?"

Cunningham, who adopted the flag-burning issue after the late Rep. Gerald Solomon, R-N.Y., retired from the House, said he wants children to know "we have certain things that are precious in our society." Flag burning "is a violent act, which perpetuates other violent acts," he said.

Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa., a co-sponsor of the flag amendment, said the flag must be protected because it "displays what America is all about, freedom, liberty, democracy."

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., an ardent foe of the flag amendment, said it would be "terrible" to amend the Bill of Rights for the first time and restrict the First Amendment right of freedom of speech.

"Do you see an epidemic of flag burning?" Nadler said "One or two idiots do it a year and the country survives."

Nadler noted that official government flag manuals recommend that worn-out U.S. flags be burned.

"If you burn the flag while you're standing there saying nice things, that's fine, but if you burn it saying something in opposition to your country, that's wrong?" Nadler said. "What they mean by desecration is defacement of the flag in connection with unpopular speech."

Cunningham insists the measure doesn't trample free speech rights. "There are 10,000 ways you can express yourself. You don't need to desecrate the flag."

The proposed constitutional amendment would overturn the 1989 U.S. Supreme Court's 5-4 ruling that laws banning desecration of the U.S. flag were unconstitutional infringements on free speech.

The flag amendment says: "Congress shall have the power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States."

Polls have repeatedly shown that 80 percent of Americans favor the amendment. All 50 states have approved measures expressing support for a flag amendment, virtually assuring ratification by three-quarters of state legislatures if Congress ever sends the measure to them.

For that to happen, both the House and Senate have to approve the measure by a two-thirds majority. The House overwhelmingly approved the flag amendment in 1995, 1997, 1999 and 2001. The Senate fell three votes short of the necessary two-thirds majority in 1995. In 1998, Democratic Senate leaders didn't take it up. It fell four votes short in 2000, and Democrats refused to bring it up in the last Congress.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., a co-sponsor of the flag amendment, said supporters "are very close" to mustering the necessary two-thirds majority in the Senate.

Report this post as:

Local News

Woolsey Fire: Worst News of 2018? J01 12:18AM

Oppose Environmentally-Harmful Development D10 4:03AM

Oppose Environmentally-Harmful Development D10 3:58AM

OUR HOUSE Grief Support Center Presents Night for Hope O30 5:38PM

Marshall Tuck’s racist dog whistle O27 5:01AM

Marshall Tuck’s ethnocentrism contradicts Californian values O27 4:32AM

Contra Costa-Hawkins O25 3:48AM

Debunking Some Anti-Prop 10 Propaganda O12 6:56AM

Why Should California Choose De Leon Over Feinstein? O10 9:55PM

Change Links September 2018 posted S02 10:22PM

More Scandals Rock Southern California Nuke Plant San Onofre A30 11:09PM

Site Outage Friday A30 3:49PM

Change Links August 2018 A14 1:56AM

Setback for Developer of SC Farm Land A12 11:09PM

More problems at Shutdown San Onofre Nuke J29 10:40PM

Change Links 2018 July posted J09 8:27PM

More Pix: "Families Belong Together," Pasadena J02 7:16PM

"Families Belong Together" March, Pasadena J02 7:08PM

Short Report on the Families Belong Together Protest in Los Angeles J30 11:26PM

Summer 2018 National Immigrant Solidarity Network News Alert! J11 6:58AM

Watch the Debate: Excluded Candidates for Governor of California M31 5:20AM

Change Links June 2018 posted M28 7:41AM

More Local News...

Other/Breaking News

Réseautage, fragmentation du capital J16 4:20PM

Paraphysique de manipulation mentale et sociale J15 9:51AM

The Global Justice Project and Human Survival: We're Badly Off Track J15 5:08AM

The Global Justice Project and Human Survival: We're Badly Off Track J15 5:08AM

The Global Justice Project and Human Survival: We're Badly Off Track J15 5:08AM

Markets as a Fetish, Globalization, and Dissent Management J14 1:03PM

State Debts - The Primal German Fear J13 5:09PM

Sans liberté, sans égalité, sans fraternité J13 8:09AM

From Progressive Neoliberalism to Trump - and Beyond J12 9:22PM

Copper Cures Cancer J11 1:42PM

Steven Taylor, Investor who Evicts J11 9:24AM

Du sectarisme, des sectes, des clans J11 8:10AM

“Animaniacs in Concert!” Starring Voice Legend Rob Paulsen J10 6:34PM

Patrick Kilpatrick discusses and signs Dying for Living J09 11:51PM

SexActs vs Sexuality USA 2018 Invitations to Power Marriages without Affection J09 8:36PM

Changer de mentalité, changer de société J09 9:17AM

Teacher Strike? Time for Labor Studies J09 6:26AM

December 2018 Honduras Coup Update J08 10:12PM

Paraphysique de la désespérance J07 9:38AM

The Unification Church with Rev Moon is in La and Orange Counnties J07 9:07AM

Time to Start Imagineering a Post-Ayatollah Iran J05 10:00PM

L'écomorphisme, du culturel et du temporel J05 10:33AM

Sexual Harassment Charges of Men Suing Women who are accused of Harassing Men are now 10% J05 4:08AM

Stases psychiques et stases sexuelles J04 11:34AM

Paraphysique de la sous-vie J02 9:01AM

Paraphysique de la biomasse mondialisée J01 9:45AM

La mathématisation du monde D31 7:42AM

Refugee other Asylum I.D. reraly granted U.of :ouisiana DEc 29 ,2018 D30 5:32AM

More Breaking News...
© 2000-2018 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy