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Who owns CNN? or MSNBC? ABC?
by systemfailure
Wednesday, Apr. 09, 2003 at 1:43 AM
So ya think we have a "free press" eh?
Check out who owns who, and who owns what you think.......
GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election campaign)
Television Holdings: * NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households. * NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise. * CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%). The "MS" in MSNBC means microsoft The same Microsoft that donated 2.4 million to get GW bush elected.
Other Holdings: * GE Consumer Electronics. * GE Power Systems: produces turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants. * GE Plastics: produces military hardware and nuclear power equipment. * GE Transportation Systems: runs diesel and electric trains. ==================================================
WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC. Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL) whos #1 on the Board of Directors? None other than: Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)
Television Holdings: * CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200 affiliates in the US. * CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute. * Country Music Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks. * Group W Satellite Communications. Other Holdings: * Westinghouse Electric Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry. * Westinghouse Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US. * Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance. ================================================================ VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC. Television Holdings: * Paramount Television, Spelling Television, MTV, VH-1, Showtime, The Movie Channel, UPN (joint owner), Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Sundance Channel (joint owner), Flix. * 20 major market US stations. Media Holdings: * Paramount Pictures, Paramount Home Video, Blockbuster Video, Famous Players Theatres, Paramount Parks. * Simon & Schuster Publishing. ============================================= DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign) Television Holdings: * ABC: includes 10 stations, 24% of US households. * ABC Network News: Prime Time Live, Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America. * ESPN, Lifetime Television (50%), as well as minority holdings in A&E, History Channel and E! * Disney Channel/Disney Television, Touchtone Television. Media Holdings: * Miramax, Touchtone Pictures. * Magazines: Jane, Los Angeles Magazine, W, Discover. * 3 music labels, 11 major local newspapers. * Hyperion book publishers. * Infoseek Internet search engine (43%). Other Holdings: * Sid R. Bass (major shares) crude oil and gas. * All Disney Theme Parks, Walt Disney Cruise Lines. ======================================================
TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to GW's 2000 campaign) America Online (AOL) acquired Time Warner–the largest merger in corporate history. Television Holdings: * CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%). * Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers. Media Holdings: * HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera. * Music: Atlantic, Elektra, Rhino, Sire, Warner Bros. Records, EMI, WEA, Sub Pop (distribution) = the world’s largest music company. * 33 magazines including Time, Sports Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD Magazine. Other Holdings: * Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta Hawks, World Championship Wrestling. ======================================================= NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note) Television Holdings: * Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US households. * Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%). * The Golf Channel (33%). MEDIA HOLDINGS: * Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight. * 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York Post, the London Times and The Australian. * 25 magazines including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard. * HarperCollins books. OTHER HOLDINGS: * Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League. * Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines. * Rupert Murdoch: Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).
*(Phillip Morris donated 2.9 million to George W Bush in 2000)*
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references
by twiddledee
Wednesday, Apr. 09, 2003 at 9:03 AM
What are your references for this? I would like to have to them. thanks.
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And they must have...
by daveman
Wednesday, Apr. 09, 2003 at 9:09 AM
...paid all those Iraqis to tear down that statue!
In fact, it was probably in a soundstage in Hollywood!
Wait...Hollywood is against the war...the statue being torn down makes the war look good...uhhh...
"Bush is bad! It's all about the oil!"
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A good start...
by Diogenes
Wednesday, Apr. 09, 2003 at 9:14 AM
Do you have any data on the other subsidiaries of the major media holding companies?
I think that it is interesting, and of note, that there are lot of defense related industries tied into the chains of ownership here.
Also interesting if you have access to the data would be the names of the major shareholders. Always it comes down to people. Certain ones Like Ted Turner, and Michael Eisner are already in the public record.
Interesting as well would be to see how these people tie together at the Boardroom level. The point being "Interlocking Directorates" where you have members of supposed competition setting on each others Board of Directors.
And I agree that it would be handy if you were to source this out so others can do their own probing and follow up.
Good Post.
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heres the link + republican donators
by system failure
Wednesday, Apr. 09, 2003 at 5:23 PM
goto the "columbia journalism review and click on the "who owns what" link on the right side of the page http://www.cjr.org/ the presidential donations for GW can be found at http://www.boycottbush.net/bgrnd_info.htm#donors heres the list :::: MBNA $3.0m Philip Morris $2.9m Microsoft $2.4m AT&T $2.4m UPS $2.3m Bristol Myers Squibb $2.1m Verizon $2.0m Pfizer $1.9m SBC $1.9m Enron $1.8m Citigroup $1.8m Federal Express $1.7m Time Warner/AOL $1.6m Credit Suisse $1.6m Ernst & Young $1.5m UST $1.5m Morgan Stanley Dean Witter $1.5m Lockheed Martin $1.5m Union Pacific $1.5m Freddie Mac $1.4m Bell South $1.4m Glaxo Wellcome $1.3m Amway $1.3m Price W'house Coopers $1.3m Deloite & Touche $1.3m Eli Lily $1.3m Goldman Sachs $1.2m Anderson W'wide $1.2m Merrill Lynch $1.2m Exxon Mobil $1.2m WorldCom Inc $1.2m Lehman Brothers $1.1m International Paper $1.1m General Electric $1.1m Global Crossing $1.1m MGM Mirage $1.1m Koch $1.0m Aflac $1.0m Paine Webber $1.0m American $1.0m Financial Gp Boeing $1.0m Southern Co $1.0m Ltd Inc $950k BP Amoco $950k KPMG $900k Am'can Airlines $900k Schering Plough $900k Brown & Williamson $880k Bank Pharmacia/Upjohn $850k One $850k Qwest $850k Anheuser Busch $850k Cintas Corp $828k MandalayResort Gp $810k Lehman Bros $810k Reynolds Tobacco $810k Fannie Mae $800k Bank of America $800k American Int Gp $800k GAF $800k Chevron Texaco $800k Paso $790k CSX $770k Burlington North $770k General Dynamics $750k American $740k Home Prods Joseph Seagram $740k PepsiCo $720k Chase Manhatten $700k FPL Group $685k Dominion Resources $680k Prudential $900k USX Corp $650k Northwest Airlines $650k Aventis $650k First Energy $640k Reliant Energy $640k Walt Disney $640k WalMart $630k Cisco Systems $630k Texas Utilities $630k AEI Resources $630k Westwood One $620k Amgen $600k K Mart $590k UAL Corp $570k Home Depot $560k Duchossois Inds $550k Archer Daniels Midland $530k Edison Int'l $530k Ford $510k General Motors $510k Daimler Chrysler $500k
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another program
by systemfaiure
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 3:21 AM
Really? I thought it would just be an end to the corportate conglomerations that put small business out of "business". Corporations that take money that would be put back into the community and send it away to fatten politicians pocketbooks (through PAC's) and get laws changed to end unions lower minimum wage Exploit workers rights and send our jobs to foriegn countries.
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They had the Worker's Revolution...
by daveman
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 3:28 AM
...already.
8 people showed up.
Then they went back to the unemployment office.
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THATS A GOOD ONE!! (austrian accent)
by systemfailure
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 4:10 AM
It is better to be thought a fool... Than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. ----mark twain.
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Hey, systemfailure
by Sheepdog
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 8:27 AM
Great list. Good links, thanks.
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OMG: Freedom of the Press
by My Bad
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 9:27 AM
Oh, Geez, Machine, my bad. Shit when I read FREEdom of the Press in the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution, I twisted the shit out of it and thought that it meant that we have a FREE press. Thanks for setting me straight. I had not realized until now that the the framers of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights had set this bit of bait out so that about 250 years later I would twist the shit out of it.
Thanks again or setting me straight. I guess only a conservative could be so smart to realize that FREE is a really twisted word to use in regard to the Press. Sure glad that Jefferson and his group never thought of a Free Press. Shit, what would we have done if the press really was to be free!?!?!?!
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to My Bad
by daveman
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 9:29 AM
Are you really that goofy?
"Free" press means free from government influence.
You know, like the kind Iraq is about to have for the first time in decades.
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Nice margins
by Sheepdog
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 9:31 AM
My comment would be that a free press already exists. It's just not being used as much as it should be. Commercial media's primary purpose is to sell a product not report with 'objectivity'. This is a foolish premiss. Get real, thank you.
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Question...
by Eric
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 9:54 AM
If all of the corporation are controlling everything Americans see and hear, why wold they even allow this website to continue to function?
Answer: Because it's insignificant.
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Eric
by daveman
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 10:23 AM
LOL!
Exactly!
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Can you spell....
by To: daveman
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 10:31 AM
S-A-R-C-A-S-M? Man, are you dense.
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You misspelled...
by daveman
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 10:32 AM
...sarcasm.
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HA HA
by daveman
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 10:34 AM
Made you look!
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the problem is
by systemfailure
Thursday, Apr. 10, 2003 at 3:07 PM
TO all you conservative right wingers Once again, I have to spell out the context of my original article and its significance to Americans.
Back when our Forefathers were being jailed for giving thier own political views, and having to write under "pseudonames" ( like we do here) to protect thier identity from future repression.... The "Free" Press was guaranteed in the 1st amendment, to limit the goverments control of "individual" thought. They wanted a society that was allowed to question the government. Unfortunatly, today, with Television, radio, and newspapers...we have another problem. As the above post stated. This corporate "Media" is designed to sell products thru advertising. What is advertising? What do commercials do? It is designed to influence your point of view. If they are so concerned with making money, then they might form a "bias". The corporate media is not designed to provide readers an "objective" viewpoint exposing both sides of the argument with clear, concise points. It is designed to SELL products that are owned by either a subsidiary of the same company, or some other product. The press was designed to promote independent thought, (hense, Independent media). The problem (and the context) is when you have corporate media promoting a certain "way of thinking" (contributing to GW) or taking a stand on one side of the governmnet, it leads to corruption of thought. If the CEO and the owner of the media outlet has complete editorial control (ie reupert murdock), or another subsidiary of the corporation sells weapons to the military, we might have a problem with "objectivity". GE owns Hughes aircraft (defence contractor) and also owns NBC and MSNBC If a Media company is run by people with contacts to the govenmental agencies (carlucci) that wish to promote a specific anti- or pro- (fill in the blank) ways of thinking, we might have a problem with "objectivity". Or if another corporation wishes to give only religious "fundementalist" viewpoints, we might have a problem with objectivity. All a real American wishes, is that they are able to see the whole argument, not just a slanted view. The more options of thought we have, the better solution we have to come up with.
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Ms.
by Susan Ware
Sunday, May. 25, 2003 at 2:10 PM
I guess I know now why there is no real news except on C-span. The more people that know the better. Thanks for informing us, the people.
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Mr.
by Warner
Friday, May. 30, 2003 at 7:57 PM
Do you know how much these media institutions contributed to Al Gore ? It is my experience that major corporations donate to both parties. I would expect the same to be true here also.
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the shame
by Sy$teMF@iLuRe
Sunday, Jun. 01, 2003 at 4:58 AM
Mrs Warner.... Yes, the corporations are also in bed with the Democratic Party also. I dont have the stats for an accurate conclusion but you can bet that the dollar amounts are just as high as for the Republicans. To "BA" (bushit admirer) Hmmm. Does capitalism have anything to do with democracy? Looks like if you mix political and economic systems it equals one thing. CORRUPTION. Please post relevant links within the US constitution or the Declaration of Independence that shows an American duty to uphold a capitalistic way of thinking.
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Monpoly upon
by One more time with feeling.
Thursday, Jun. 05, 2003 at 6:11 PM
...the wide distribution of information is not healthy for the Republic.
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he has moore brains than yourself
by Sheepdog
Thursday, Jun. 05, 2003 at 7:11 PM
Dum-dum. It cracks me up to read your posts. blah is dumb and blah blah is dumb. What an arsenal of vocabulary you have and what sharp insightful references you present to support your opinions....
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Duh!
by Sheepdog
Thursday, Jun. 05, 2003 at 7:29 PM
-the 9/11 disaster was a CIA plot orchestrated by the White House.- The CIA is supposed to be directed by the NSA or the President, but compartmentalization prevents any kind of over sight. You don't know squat about it. As usual. The government has done next to nothing to bring to light the 9-11 event. It seems Willys pee pee was more of a priority for investagation.
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Even better you can...
by Diogenes
Thursday, Jun. 05, 2003 at 8:16 PM
...go see BA do the Ozarks. ROFL!
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In all seriusness....
by fresca
Thursday, Jun. 05, 2003 at 11:20 PM
"-the 9/11 disaster was a CIA plot orchestrated by the White House.- "
Sheepdog...in all seriousness and all bating aside...you do not actually believe this do you? Certainly this must AT LEAST be some sort of obtuse metaphor.
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Let's see..
by Sheepdog
Friday, Jun. 06, 2003 at 4:20 AM
I believe it more than the 19 super, invisible terrorists. There are other possibilities. But since the mossad and the CIA work so well together, it holds more water than the other improbables.
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Invisible! Ah yes!
by Eric
Friday, Jun. 06, 2003 at 6:02 AM
They wore cloaks of invisibility. That's it, that's the ticket. Cloaks of invisibility, granted to them my the High Elven Cleric spawn of the the incestuos relationship between the Acid breathing dragon and the faerie princess.
Oh the troll approaches wearing chain mail and carrying his shield.
He just hit me with his mace. I'm forced to roll a saving throw.
Darn! I took 40 hit points. My Druid Necromancer is now unconscious.
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thank you
by Sheepdog
Friday, Jun. 06, 2003 at 6:17 AM
for reafirming my opinion about the government story.
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tsk tsk tsk
by poorbastard
Monday, Jun. 16, 2003 at 8:14 AM
you should know that bush hired a PR company that came up with the idea of tearing down the statue and first putting the US flag over husseins head.
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Nonsense
by truthdetector
Monday, Jun. 16, 2003 at 1:52 PM
"you should know that bush hired a PR company that came up with the idea of tearing down the statue and first putting the US flag over husseins head."
Utter nonsense. The US flag on the head was a PR blunder. It was definitely not deliberated by a PR company.
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The average American owns them
by Power to the People
Monday, Jun. 16, 2003 at 1:59 PM
Since the largest mutual funds include many of the companies listed in the title of this thread (example: the largest mutual fund, Fidelity Magellan, has GE as its 3rd largest holding and Viacom as its 4th), then the average American owns these media companies.
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To the above poster
by Yeah Right
Tuesday, Jun. 17, 2003 at 6:45 AM
I have some swampland in Louisiana that I'd like to sell you. You must have hit your head when you fell off of that turnip truck yesterday!
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Thankyou
by Marissa
Thursday, Aug. 07, 2003 at 5:42 PM
Adelaide, Australia
Thanks for that exellent political speech! Welcome to the introducton of my English assignment! Your few minutes of bashing the keyboard will earn me and A! Truly thankyou!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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working class slaves
by corporate america laughs at you
Monday, Aug. 18, 2003 at 1:43 AM
the media lies... just read the article. They are in bed with the President.
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in bedded?
by Underdog
Monday, Aug. 18, 2003 at 3:39 AM
let's talk about taking it five ways from the list of 40 past the scale of 10 and arounfd the world without any hesitation tied up and blindfolded. Back and BEGGING for more. I would'nt worry if they were only having sex.
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alright..
by tell 'em
Tuesday, Aug. 19, 2003 at 6:36 PM
haha - pretty decent thread here. some nice images, some nice lists...
alriight..
sheepdog laughing, some silly right wingers....
so, right wingers, do you use colon cleanser yet? how's your mom doing?
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Libertarians are Media Whores!!!
by vice squad
Tuesday, Aug. 19, 2003 at 9:56 PM
Freedom Communications has long advocated a libertarian point of view on the editorial pages of its 28 daily papers and 8 tv stations. Today the company is one of the nation's largest newspaper publishers estimated to be worth about $2 billion.
Just a few of Freedom's Media Outlets:
The Orange County Register (CA) The Gazette (Colorado Springs CO) The Scottsdale/East Valley Tribune (AZ) ABC / WLNE-TV (Channel 6) - Southern New England RI, MA ABC / WTVC (Channel 9) - Chattanooga TN ABC / WLAJ-TV (Channel 53) Lansing - Jackson MI CBS / WPEC-TV (Channel 12) - West Palm Beach / Fort Pierce FL CBS / WWMT-TV (Channel 3) - Grand Rapids - Kalamazoo - Battle Creek MI CBS / WRGB-TV (Channel 6) - Albany NY CBS / KFDM-TV (Channel 6) - Beaumont - Port Arthur - Orange TX CBS / KTVL (Channel 10) - Medford - Klamath Falls OR
la.indymedia.org/news/2003/08/78030.php
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wow - more and more good info - THANKS
by 4yrold
Wednesday, Aug. 20, 2003 at 12:05 PM
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i know everything
by non anarchist cortex.
Friday, Aug. 29, 2003 at 8:08 PM
what do ya mean these arent evil controlling corporations? I havent really studies the list because i am afraid that i might actually learn somthing to change my point of view. I cant be open minded. what do i care if these (good) oil companies have now merged togther so that there are only now 4 oil companies. They arent plotting anything..... Even if Wolfowitz said a few days ago that the iraq war was about economics.....that iraq was sitting on "a sea of oil. These corporations are only here to help us.!!.!!? http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2003/0604wolfowitz.htm
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non anarchist cortex
by nonanarchist
Friday, Aug. 29, 2003 at 8:15 PM
You moron.
I've never even posted in this thread.
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nonanarchist
by Scottie
Sunday, Aug. 31, 2003 at 11:50 AM
Way to hurl those childish insults!!!!
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living in america
by natalie
Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 10:47 AM
You can live in the U.S. and ride a bike, make your own clothes, drink WATER (what a novel idea), and not own a television quite happily--and not be supporting corporations....jackass
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think
by think
Monday, Sep. 22, 2003 at 10:29 AM
if you don't question authority, then you are the problem. To assume we are being fairly represented abroad just means that you haven't been abroad. Why do think America is the world's largest arms dealer? Because the average US citizen simply does not know that the US is the world's largest arms dealer.
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response to Machine
by response to Machine
Monday, Sep. 22, 2003 at 10:36 AM
Your mention of liberal and conservatism is exactly the point, and exactly the problem. These words, and your interpretations, are bound within the systems in which you've grown. You probably have not travelled abroad, probably have no idea why the US has a reputation with the rest of the world as being a pushy hypocrite. These are not good things. And your idea of power in the world is probably distorted. Think bigger, young grasshopper
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mr
by johnson
Thursday, Sep. 25, 2003 at 8:45 PM
A little research will show most of the above major corporations are owned by mutual funds/investment banking conglomerates. The funds/banks in turn vote their common stock (bought with the funds of their individual investors like you and me) to elect the directors and thereby indirectly control the company. Thus the heads of a few major funds banks (rockefellers, rothschilds, morgans, et. al) have obtained de facto control of corporate america. not conspiracy theory. Good or bad, it is simple fact. Unfortunately the media is no exception to this, thus the lack of any real "choice" in media/news, which in my view is the true tragedy.
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Thou shalt not steal."
by nonanarchist
Thursday, Oct. 09, 2003 at 3:54 AM
"These studies may not be reproduced collectively ONLINE , or in successive part, on any WEBSITE, EMAIL LIST or PUBLIC ELECTRONIC LIBRARY without expressed written consent.
©2000 theseason.org Webmaster"
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THOU SHALT NOT BE A DUMBASS
by ROBOCOP
Friday, Oct. 10, 2003 at 1:16 AM
PLEASE NOTE: These studies may be stored on your private computer as a library, printed out in single copy (or you may print enough for a study group) for private study purposes provided the Author and Source are included with each and every excerpt or copy.
LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A PRIVATE STUDY GROUP TO ME.
Why dont you go back and worship satan you devil.
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good info
by barry hinton
Monday, Oct. 13, 2003 at 9:25 PM
This was a very good article. It provided a plethera of information that i was looking for. I am writing a paper on global communications for a college class. Thanks for the help Barry Hinton
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From "Man on the Moon"
by Doody McPoohead
Sunday, Oct. 26, 2003 at 8:04 PM
From Man on the Moon (the Andy Kaufman movie)
"It's show business! Without a show, there is no business!"
Yea, there can never be a free press in the sense that its totally objective, because true objectivity doesnt exist. Everyone who writes, types, or says something is obviously going to put their own point of view on it, whether its blatently obvious or just a little subconsciously. There are no secret shady meetings where company conglomerates get together to fuck with our heads and feed us bad information. The only way to get a well rounded, balanced view of world events is to get up off your lazy ass and do some research. Find different sources, research from different points of view, etc etc. Quit whining that the total truth isnt beamed into your plasma screen idiot box because there never will be one totally objective source of information. Deal with it.
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Idiot
by did you read the article?
Sunday, Oct. 26, 2003 at 8:12 PM
really? why would an "objective" press contribute towards a political campaign? ie Bush
Is the news slated to give a certain viewpoint or to give some issues more coverage than others ie the war protests
Then I'm sure you would love the old Soviet newspapers.
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peter from perth
by pete
Monday, Nov. 10, 2003 at 10:27 PM
does this mean that coke supported the other dudes. might be why they suck in america atm and everyone drinks pepsi.
its all just too gay....illuminati for ya... we'll never figure it out
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Mr.
by Ed
Saturday, Nov. 15, 2003 at 8:49 AM
yeah,so what? These are some of the best businesses going. They employ thousands. Of Americans. Start your own, sell your ideas in the open market, let the people vote for you with their money, it's the only true indicator of the value you offer them. But don't cast aspersion on great companies who happen to enjoy the news and bias opinions business. Knock them off the old-fashioned way, earn it.
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Bias Is Infectious
by prfix
Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2004 at 8:55 PM
Bias is infectious in the media - this is good information - makes one wonder how the LA Times got to be so biased against Israel - check out this interesting site http://www.geocities.com/truthmasters/jointheboycott.htm
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ummmmm...nice try.....
by Samuel Blaber
Friday, Apr. 09, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Well, like most people who do not want to confront the fact that our mainstream news is a joke,( i.e. conservatives), you are talking about two completely different things. Let me explain. You say, "Yeah so what" if these huge companies bias & taint the news.....they're SUCCESFUL! What?! So because they employ a lot of people, that means their news is of good quality? No, it doesn't. And their news isn't of good quality, it's shit. What is also shit is your mindnumbingly oversimplified argument that something that is purchased and consumed more than anything else MUST necessarily be of superior quality, otherwise, people wouldn't buy it. Well, I'm sure that the heroin trade nets more $ than the health food industry--does that mean that heroin is better for you than healthy food. I'm sure most Americans would rather live on McDonald's burgers and fries every day than on Tofu and green veggies. Which diet will kill you faster? In the case of news, Americans would have to know what else is out there in order to make a better informed choice as to how they want to ingest their information. We would probably agree that many lazy-ass people are ignorant and won't do their homework in order to become informed, and would rather let Fox news scrub their brain..........but when progressives say that the media is privately owned by wealthy partisan interests, filtered, and biased, we are still right.
PS-I'm so tired of people using the old "free market" crap-there has never been a "free" market in the history of the world, and admit it, once you've made astronomical amounts of money in our system, you can't lose. So please don't present the American market place as so free and competitive........rich people tend to stay rich, poor tend to stay poor. If the market is so free and fair, go ahead and build a baseball team that is better than the Yankees, yourself...go build it. Compete. C'mon, you're a bright guy, it should be easy.............
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thanks
by the Jews
Friday, Apr. 09, 2004 at 12:48 PM
thanks for not blaming us for everything.
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want truth check this article out
by ak
Monday, Aug. 02, 2004 at 8:36 PM
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Donations, Smonations
by David Ross White
Monday, Aug. 02, 2004 at 10:40 PM
drw@traveladvisors.com
Great bit of research, my friend, documenting all those donations to the wicked and vile G. Bush.
But you purposefully submitted only half of the story in a blatant attempt to spin your agenda by way of these omitted truths.
What's the other half of the story? Why it's the missing list of the matching millions these same corporations donated to the democrat party.
The whole truth is, they don't give a crap which party wins, as long as they can manipulate the "winner" for their own greedy, international, corporate ends.
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misdirection
by fred
Monday, Aug. 02, 2004 at 11:42 PM
this is a MILD form of dis-information.
im sure its quite true but it doesnt show that all of these firms dontated to the DNC also.
big corporate money ALWAYS hedges their bets on both sides of the fence.
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Mr.
by Man
Tuesday, Aug. 03, 2004 at 7:02 AM
The point is, people rely on the 'news' to keep them informed so that they can make good decisions. The news is no longer the news in this country. What passes for news in this country is about 10% reporting and 90% commentary. Why do we need to know what some dittohead pundit thinks about a particular event? We don't. All we need are 'just the facts, ma'am.'. Just report what's happening and let the people decide for themselves. As we now see from the hit documentary, 'OutFoxed', there are people with very clear political, social and economic agendas directing others in how they are to report 'news'. And, you cannot deny that the people running these news outlets are beholden to the owners and their money. It's sad how Americans have become so greedy and self-serving that we no longer are willing to stand up for what is right if there is even an inkling of a possibility that there may be some consequence. Thank those who have been so adament about punishing the whistleblowers. At Faux News, they assume that the American people are too stupid to formulate thier own opinions so, they inject theirs for you. According to 'OutFoxed' there is a lot of high level correspondence between the head of Faux News and its reporters, anchor persons, etc explaining to them how they are going to report an event, then how they are going to explain the event, why they are going to ignore an event that may embarrass the Resident, etc, etc, etc. I would suggest to all read Paul Krugman's, 'The Great Unravelling'. It details this current trend and fames it not as a cultural event, but as an orchestrated revolution by radical forces in this country who have no regard for the Constitution nor the foundations of Democracy as defined by Henry Kissinger himself. We truely live in a time when the ends justify the means. If nothing else, remember that regulation is a good thing. See, there was a time, pre 1930's when there was no regulation of any kind... 'The Guilded Age'. Unbridled excess gave way to abuse and finally the collapse of our economy and moreover our whole society fell into a 'Great Depression' that was only remedied by New Deal and Great Society initiatives which in effect created the middle class which is the back-bone of our country today... and fading fast! The people on the radical right have no use, in fact contempt, for the middle class as evidenced by their unrelenting prusuit to undo all, and I mean ALL, of the policies that have made us the great nation we are today. A compliant media is just one piece of the puzzle. The destruction of the seperation of church and state is another. The usurpation of the courts is just one more (The House of Representatives recently passed a Bill making it illegal for the Supreme Court to rule on a Gay Marriage amendment... Article III, Section II induced). The dismantleing of Social Security, Medicare/Madicaid, The Welfare System, job security and safety... defunding of the public school system and the disenfrachisement of the electorate to name a few. Every social program that got us where we are today is under attack. People, it's time to wake up and smell the coffee. Kissinger said that those who become accostomed to stability will not only be unable to repel the revolution but, will be virtually unable to recognize it. People, the revolution is not being televised. Peace, and God Bless.
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Rupert - DirecTV
by ThirdEye
Tuesday, Aug. 03, 2004 at 7:09 AM
Don't forget Rupert as of this year owns DirecTV as well, the most succesful satellite TV provider.
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Nietzscheanism
by Austin in DC
Tuesday, Aug. 03, 2004 at 9:40 AM
I am puzzled as to where Nietzsche fits in here, other than the fact that Nietzsche (like Jung) believed the Jewish consciousness difffered from the German. Different did not mean always mean inferior.
Austin
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Media Bias?
by Austin in DC
Tuesday, Aug. 03, 2004 at 10:06 AM
It is ludicrous to argue any US media bias against Israel so long as:
1.) Video compilations list HUNDREDS of uniformly positive movies on Israel (not to mention inumerable sympathetic films with holocaust themes or Jewish family narratives).
2.) There are zero pro-Arab films, unless one counts pre WWII stuff.
Given that Jews make up less than 2% of the US population, this is remarkable. Rather than say this is ominous, however, I'd be inclined to say it is a singular bore. Not just to me, but to the rest of the world that doesn't even have this extremely vocal minority among them.
Austin in DC
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Mike
by Mike
Wednesday, Aug. 04, 2004 at 5:32 AM
Apparently the author feels that His opinion is the only correct one. As He feels He must use colorful language to assert His feelings. Or maybe this is another example of how the left or right feels compelled to exclude the other's opinion. Where is the tolerance?
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Mr.
by Ryan White
Wednesday, Aug. 31, 2005 at 10:01 PM
Viacom and CBS merged in '99?
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Ms.
by Lynn Smith
Friday, Sep. 16, 2005 at 7:11 AM
Are you seriously trying to say that we have a republican media? Wow. where have you been for the last 4 years? I'd like to see how much these companies donated to democratic campaigns.
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Campaign Finance Reform
by Kevin Shayne
Wednesday, Oct. 26, 2005 at 9:28 PM
kshayne@iwon.com
The foxes are guarding the hen house (Congress). Our democracy, freedom, and liberty depend on campaign finance reform. Without that our country is for sale to the highest bidder.
If terrorists want to destroy this country they should lobby Congress and they could do it from the inside. No need for killing when you could just buy our government.
What to do? I would love to see a special tax placed on all federal lobbying organizations. That money would go to fund all elections.
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Mr.
by Florida
Wednesday, Nov. 02, 2005 at 7:53 AM
"there has never been a "free" market in the history of the world" Huh? There has always been a free market. Even at the hight of the Soviet Union people traded between one another. Free trade can be hampered by Government, but it can never be eliminated. Don't believe me? Want to buy a gun? Or some porn? Or some crack? Or a ghost in a bottle? Or old letters written by Elvis? Or a passport to any country in the world? Or a prostitute? Or whiskey? In fact, you tell me what can't be bought? If that ain't free trade - you tell me what is?
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by p
Wednesday, Dec. 28, 2005 at 1:57 PM
A free market is not defined by whether you can get crack, silly. Just because you can get it does not mean it is not influenced, directed and controled by someone other then the market itself. Like let’s say... opec gezz if you live in the us that is just sad. With the availibility of information and economic education and you think market is free. it is subbed by government which is not a free market.
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Incomplete Info
by George Thomas
Monday, Sep. 25, 2006 at 10:02 AM
I noticed the 'donated $X to GW campaign' inclusions - I did not notice the 'donated to Al Gore or John Kerry campaigns'... Does the author wish us to believe these corporate entities did NOT donate to GW's opponents or the Democrat party?
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Who are you kidding?
by Ethan
Sunday, Oct. 01, 2006 at 9:11 PM
This article didn't tell me anything I didn't really know. I'm more surprised with some of the comments. Like the last one from Brent. Simply because people bash Bush (it aint like it's hard) doesn't mean they don't support their own ideologies over others. I love MSNBC, and the news they give out is much better than the crap on fox or local stations, but they do have their own agendas, and to think otherwise is beyond naive. It's popular right now to bash the president, so they do it. When the war was popular they supported that. The media is manipulative entertainment, nothing more. Not that I don't love it, I'm a communications major after all. Look, if you want politicians to give you breaks, monopoly rights (like Clinton), etc. then you need to give them money for their campaigns. They do have their carreers to consider after all, they don't have much time to think about us silly consumers. If you want unbiased news, good luck, but PBS, NPR, BBC, these are the places you should be going to for news.
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Re: Who owns CNN? or MSNBC? ABC?
by SmartOpinion
Thursday, Oct. 12, 2006 at 6:54 AM
sopinion@yahoo.com
All those who oppose the Article should just ask when was the last time these corporations allowed Anti-War opinions on their network programs. Remember Phil Donahue, he was fired 'Cos he just expressed an Anti-War opinion. If you don't understand it then you are living in a Utopia. Before opposing any opinion just go and search for International news and then one may find various opinions and hence the real truth.. Nature is never LEFT or RIGHT it always has one ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Please stop clasiifying any opinion as LEFT or RIGHT. Try to explore http://www.democraynow.org
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sonny
by sonny
Friday, Nov. 10, 2006 at 1:42 PM
sonnyglide1@alltel.net
sounds like you all have a real handle on the "truth"... so why dosen't anyone tell the "truth" about WTC BLD #7 but then again I guess you all get your truth form main stream media, sheepole!
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Who owns GE?
by Ninja-Proof Shell
Wednesday, Nov. 22, 2006 at 9:11 PM
Supertortoise@hotmail.com
The information about who owns NBC, CBS, Time-warner, etc is all detailed and easily researched. However, I can't seem to find any indication of ownership of GE, public or private. It's almost as if GE is an entity in and of itself, a citizen of the world "who" can buy up property and appear in court.
Anyway, if anyone has helpful information/links about this, an email would be greatly appreciated.
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GE
by Lord Locksley
Wednesday, Nov. 22, 2006 at 11:55 PM
GE is a publicly owned corporation....anybody can buy and own shares of common stock in GE
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Not Exactly
by johnk
Thursday, Nov. 23, 2006 at 2:40 AM
GE is the second largest company in the world. Half its business is finance, meaning its as much a bank as anything else. A finance website will usually list major holdings. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=GE Institutional investors own half of GE. I assume that individuals own the other half. A lot of the individuals are the families who owned the shares of stocks in companies that GE acquired. They're not average working class folks. Also, the largest mutual fund holding is still only 1/4 the largest insitutional holding, which is Barclays. The rhetoric of publicly traded shares of stock, as a kind of democatic corrective to the excesses of rapacious capitalism, are just words. Mostly, it's a propaganda used by capitalists to get working people to side with the capitalists, against other working people.
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Freelance Graphic Artist
by Rita Ferdinando
Friday, Dec. 22, 2006 at 2:13 PM
ArtistRitaferdi@cs.com Spring Hill Florida
I wanted to who owns ABC and found this web page. I looking for employment. I heard ABC owns GE. After reading your cite maybe I should run!
www.RitaFerdi.com
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Who owns it all? you ask...
by Webmusher
Saturday, Mar. 10, 2007 at 7:29 AM
bill@somefake.com
The Networks are all owned by the assorted Families of Skull & Bones fame. The approx. 300 Families own every major network, NBC, CBS/Viacom, Westinghouse, not to mention every railroad, auto manufacturer, mining operation, logging and milling, banking and insurance and even education, publishing and manufacturing firms. They have had almost 300 years to accomplish this takeover with the beginning in old World Royal Wealth. The families of the Skull and Bones include Westinghouse, Bush, Cheney, Taft, and many names you would instantly recognize. These Families all receive guidance from the Black Pope or Fr. Andrew Bertie, of the Knights of Malta. The Knights should scare the fuck out of you. http://www.area907.info
www.area907.info
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Dr
by Holliday
Saturday, May. 19, 2007 at 5:30 PM
legalpad@hotmail.com
What does it mean that you failed to note what GE contributed to the Democrats? Look it up.
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To Dr, Rita
by johnk
Sunday, Jun. 24, 2007 at 12:42 PM
I'm sure they give to both parties, but traditionally, big business gives more to Republicans than Democrats. Until the late 80s, Dems were dominated by labor unions, but the unions got decimated by Reagan, NAFTA, Clinton, and some self-destruction, so Dems went begging and found that corporations were happy to pay.
Still, despite this, the Dems remain the party that unions support, and also the party that mobilizes their people to campaign for free. Reps pay more per-vote, and lacking union support, go for the big business money a lot more.
Anyone who implies that the Reps and Dems are equal (and equally guilty) in their taking donations from corporations has his head up his butt. (That means you, Dr. Holliday. How does it smell up there?)
Look at the flack Obama is getting for taking corporate money. Every major Republican takes more than Obama ever did, but nobody complains... because that's what people expect of Republicans. Many Republicans also think it's correct and proper, too, to be servants to the money.
Rita: Disney owns ABC.
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It's Amazing
by blogbob
Friday, Jul. 06, 2007 at 10:45 AM
that people are still knocking each other around on this thread four years after its post. It would be interesting to see stats on the 2004 and 2006 election cycles to see if corporatist america is getting the message that the boob job is screwing up.
either way, it's all about corporations ("aritificial people" in the parlance of an 1880s civics book I've seen) buying influence to assure that their bidding is done...like making it impossible for parents of autistic children to ever pursue redress against vaccine makers if a connection is ever proven between thimerozal (sp?) and autism.
We need public financing of our elections, and we need it now. Our leaders spend so much time whoring for donations that they have no time to do OUR bidding (we vote--the Artificial People do NOT!). How about this? Corporations and individuals may contribute to a single pot, out of which candidates of both/all parties will be funded equally. This will give the American people an option--no longer the choice between the lesser of two evils. It will relieve the candidates of the need to go on golf outings to Scotland, and allow them to focus instead on what is in the COUNTRY's best interest instead of Enron's or GE's or Rockwell's.
Any takers?
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Mr.
by frank ooms
Wednesday, Jul. 11, 2007 at 9:01 AM
frankooms@earthlink.net
I didn't notice in the list of GE holdings the branch that makes jet engines and does anyone know if they make jet engines for military fighter jets, bombers, or other vehicles? Does Westinghouse have a branch that makes any Military hardware or software?
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Incensed
by frank ooms
Wednesday, Jul. 11, 2007 at 9:02 AM
frankooms@earthlink.net
I didn't notice in the list of GE holdings the branch that makes jet engines and does anyone know if they make jet engines for military fighter jets, bombers, or other vehicles? Does Westinghouse have a branch that makes any Military hardware or software?
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this may help
by dwc
Wednesday, Aug. 22, 2007 at 1:28 PM
General Electric http://www.ge.com * Holdings * Timeline 1878 Thomas Edison forms Edison Electric Light Company 1892 Edison General Electric Company merges with Thomson-Houston Electric Company to create General Electric Company 1897 Wireless Telegraph and Signal Company formed by Guglielmo Marconi 1901 Emile Berliner and Eldridge Johnson form the Victor Talking Machine Company 1906 David Sarnoff begins working at American Marconi 1917 U.S. Government begins using GE produced aircraft engines 1919 Radio Corporation of America (RCA) is created. RCA is formed after the U.S. Government gives control of the wireless industry back to the public sector following World War I. RCA gains the assets of American Marconi and becomes the controlling body of the patents belonging to General Electric, Westinghouse, United Fruit and AT&T 1926 National Broadcasting Corporation (NBC) formed. Sarnoff sees the potential of a nationwide network of radio stations and gets RCA, GE and Westinghouse to invest in the acquisition of WEAF in New York City and WJZ in Newark NBC's "Red" and "Blue" networks respectively -as the flagship stations for the new NBC Radio network 1927 NBC Radio broadcasts the Rose Bowl to nationwide audience 1929 RCA purchases Victor Talking Machine Company of Camden, NJ for $154 million and begins manufacturing radios and phonographs 1932 Due to concerns of a growing monopoly, GE and Westinghouse sell off stake in RCA 1939 NBC introduces television broadcasting at the World's Fair in New York City 1941 Federal Communications Commission releases its Report on Chain Broadcasting. The report is critical of the growth of broadcast networks and proposes that NBC sell off one of its two networks NBC Red & NBC Blue 1941 NBC receives first license for a commercial television station 1943 After losing court battles with the FCC over the demand to divest one off its networks, RCA sells of NBC Blue Network to Edward Noble, lifesavers candy creator. Network eventually becomes ABC 1954 NBC has first color telecast of Rose Bowl parade. Very few people actually see the telecast because there are not that many color sets in use 1966 RCA purchases Random House 1973 RCA purchases Ballantine Books becomes part of Random House 1980 RCA sells of Random House to S. I. Newhouse's Advance Publications 1985 GE acquires NBC as part of a $6.3 billion for RCA 1986 - GE sells RCA's music division to Bertelsmann 1989 CNBC is formed 1996 MSNBC is launched. Cable news network is a joint partnership between GE and Microsoft 1997 CNBC Asia and Europe are formed. 1999 GE gains 32% stake in Paxson Communications and its PAX TV network 2002 Telemundo Communications Group is acquired for $2.7 billion in a deal with an investment group that includes Sony and Liberty Media. In a separate deal, Bravo Network is acquired from a deal with Cablevision and MGM for $1.25 billion 2003 Deal announced between GE and Vivendi Universal to create NBC Universal. In the deal, GE acquires Vivendi Universal's entertainment holdings which include theme parks and Universal Pictures' movie and television studios, and three cable channels (NYT 10/9/03) Television NBC Stations: WNBC New York KNBC Los Angeles WMAQ Chicago WCAU Philadelphia KNTV San Jose/San Francisco KXAS Dallas/Fort Worth WRC Washington WTVJ Miami KNSD San Diego WVIT Hartford WNCN Raleigh WCMH Columbus WVTM Birmingham WJAR Providence Telemundo Stations: KVEA/KWHY Los Angeles WNJU New York WSCV Miami KTMD Houston WSNS Chicago KXTX Dallas/Fort Worth KVDA San Antonio KSTS San Jose/San Francisco KDRX Phoenix KNSO Fresno KMAS Denver WNEU Boston/Merrimack KHRR Tucson WKAQ Puerto Rico NBC Universal Television Studio NBC Universal Television Distribution CNBC MSNBC Bravo Mun2TV Sci-Fi Trio USA Film Universal Pictures Parks Universal Parks & Resorts Other Paxson Communications (30%) Other General Electric Businesses GE Aircraft Engines GE Commercial Finance GE Consumer Products GE Industrial Systems GE Insurance GE Medical Systems GE Plastics GE Power Systems GE Specialty Materials GE Transportation Systems last updated 06/01/2004
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How much did these orgs donate to Dems?
by simiansam
Wednesday, Aug. 22, 2007 at 2:05 PM
I think media conglomeration and the liberal media myth does suck, but I'm sure these organizations have also contributed to Democratic campaigns - are there numbers there in the same place you found these?
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by marsh outlaw
Thursday, Aug. 23, 2007 at 6:03 AM
Is this serious. People actually thought CNN was liberal? Give me a break...
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Beloved DNC
by free thinker
Monday, Oct. 22, 2007 at 7:04 AM
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