April 2, 2003

Hitler or Bush - Poland or Iraq

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"Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant"

(They make a place into a barren wasteland
and then call it peace.)

- Galgacus, Caledonian chief about the Roman Empire
quoted by Tacitus in 'Agricola,' 30)
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1. Who said the following?

Was it Hitler to German's living under 'tyranny' in Poland
or Bush to Iraqi's living under 'tyranny' in Iraq?

"We're coming with a mighty force to end the reign
of your oppressors. We are coming to bring you
food and medicine and a better life. And we will
not stop. We will not relent until your country is
free."

Answer:

http://www.canada.com/national/features/iraq/story.html?id=9BEF17C1-26 4C-48DA-BC9D-2054981258F7

2. What invasion is being described here? Poland or Iraq?

I removed the obvious clues from the text.

"The first wartime news reports illustrate the regime's skillful propaganda. Footage depicting an artillery barrage against a frontier town, and of refugees who had fled the regime to escape persecution, illustrates the Supreme Leader's claimed justification for invasion.

Scenes of homeland security preparations in major cities, the call-up of reservists, and an armaments factory show the nation's preparations. In the enemy-controlled port of X, troops fire the war's first shots as they assault the city's post office, where regime-sympathizing guerrillas were barricaded.

The lightning thrust of the army shows infantry and armor acting with battlefield discipline and coordination remarkable for a combat- inexperienced force. Scenes of a sortie and the point-blank bombardment against the enemy's bases are included.

The Supreme Leader's dramatic appearances were liberally included in the campaign films. Here is The Supreme Leader at war: grim and calculating at a military conference, light- hearted among soldiers at an army field kitchen, proud and confident while reviewing his advancing infantry, apprehensive and excited when watching the climatic bombardment of the enemy's capital.

Poland or Iraq?

http://www.ihffilm.com/20.html

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Analysis: The Poland/Iraq comparison is much, much stronger than outlined above.

First, consider the parallel with NATO and Hitler's Axis powers. Hitler used his defense/military treaties to drag other countries into his wars. Bush tried to do the same with NATO. Clinton did the first dry run for this abuse of NATO in Yugoslavia. Even more repugnant is how Bush used the UN inspections for what was essentially a reconaissance mission prior to the war.

The WW II comparision gets even closer when you recall Hitler's siege of Stalingrad and Leningrad. Hitler was thwarted at Stalingrad after trying to take the city street-by-street, house-by-house. Recall also Hitler's desire for Russian oil:

http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/classroom/gcse/staling.htm

"The Battle of Stalingrad (August 1942 - February 1943) was the decisive World War II Soviet victory that stopped the German southern advance and turned the tide of the war. At Stalingrad Soviet armies began the series of offensives that were to take them to Berlin.

The first onslaught of Operation Barbarossa in 1941 had carried the German armies to the outskirts of Moscow and Leningrad. In summer 1942 Hitler's main target was the oil fields of the Caucasus - their capture would deprive the Russians of their fuel supply."

Hitler treated Leningrad much like Basra is being treated now. Leningrad was surrounded and shelled for 2+ years, its residents starving and freezing, along with the German troops surrounding it. Sounds like Basra and Baghdad, except that Axis-of-Oil forces are cooking in the desert heat, instead of the winter cold.

Now I put it to you: BUSH HAS ALREADY WON THE WAR. Not the war to oust Saddam, but the REAL objectives of Gulf War II (or WW Dubya), have already been achieved: THE OIL FIELDS HAVE BEEN SECURED. The major cities of Iraq will be treated much like Leningrad. The real war is won, done, over. The oil fields are under US/UK control. The US will keep up the show for a while, at least until UN and grassroots pressure can successfully stop it (or appear to stop it).

How could such an obvious goal be so well buried? Certainly the in-bedded media are being led around by the nose, touting the goal of eliminating WMD, and censoring enything else. Foreign press, to their credit, diligently reports on civilian casualties. All this leaves the war's real goal obscured: THE OIL FIELDS HAVE BEEN SECURED.

One needs to look back to Gulf War I to see the gap between spin and truth. Prior to ground forces invading Kuwait and Iraq in Gulf War I, the US staged a marine invasion from the Gulf, as practice for the inevitable invasion of Iraq. Of course, this was all for show, as the real invasion took place by armored columns that circled around from the south into Iraq. The Iraqis fell for the psyop by redeploying their forces to defend the coast, making an easy "victory" for the U.S. Gulf War I's goals were complete: KUWAIT'S OIL FIELDS WERE SECURED.

Jump ahead to WW Dubya. Six months of propaganda told the whole world this was about "regime change," "freeing" the cities, and eliminating WMD. Saddam's forces were deployed to defend the cities, the oil fields left relatively unprotected. A big show was made of the rush to Basra and Baghdad; this show is still on. Yet the real goal is quietly being played out in the desert oil fields, as they are secured by special forces. The US and UK can sit back for years if they like, and wait out the surrender of the cities. (But THE OIL FIELDS HAVE BEEN SECURED!)

The southern oil fields are now occupied by U.S. troops and armor; protected by helicopters. The past two days revealed the push to secure the oil fields near Kirkuk. Once Kirkuk's oil fields are safely in Bush's hands, the Axis-of-Oil's victory will be complete.

Endgame? A diminished Iraq, the no-fly zones essentially becoming 2 new 'states,' and Saddam (if he survivies) left with no source of oil revenue (and thus no power). Even if Bush is impeached, tried as a war criminal, or loses the next election, he has won. THE OIL FIELDS HAVE BEEN SECURED. The bankers, Bilderbergers, and elite will be satisfied. And the American public, satisfied with another 10-15 years of cheap fuel (subsidized by war), will soon slip back into its historical amnesia as the television repeats its comfortable lies ad nauseum.


Postscript: Admittedly absent from the analysis is Irael's influence in pushing for this war, though should the war drag on, it is clearly for Israel's benefit, and not necessarily in the interest of the US.

I found this link which has the best comparison of Hitler and Bush that I have seen to date. It's frightening how similar they really are. Ignore German History at Your Own Peril http://gvnews.net/html/Opinion/abs993.html

Please excuse my "newbie" errors above. It was my first time posting to Indymedia.

It's a sign of a lack of ideas and an ability to argue coherently if you start comparing your opponent to Hitler.

A primer for the curious
http://gvnews.net/html/Opinion/abs993.html
Hitler and Bush?
No way, a lunitic; he at least fought in combat.
Other than that, just a wantabe.

Whenever we liberals have nothing intelligent to say or add to the conversation, which is 100% of the time, we can always resort to making unrelated comparisons between Nazi Germany and Bush.

Try reading the link before you dismiss it. Heck, you don't even have to read half of it to get the point. From the 2000 election, September 11th, and UN resolution 1441, there are striking similarities between the two leaders.

Thank you for backing me up. Whenever we liberals have nothing intelligent to say or add to the conversation, which is 100% of the time, we can repeat the same thing over and over while hoping we can create reality out of fantasy.

Reason. Obviously not your forte.

That fake Sheepdog post is mine. Aren't I clever? My mommy thinks I am!

Fake Diogenes is me, too!

Whenever we liberals have nothing intelligent to say or add to the conversation, which is 100% of the time, I make up lies to cover up my own insecurities.

That's me, too! Am I entertaining anyone besides my own demented self?

Did Nostrodamus have anything pertinent to say on this very important issue?

Did the Enquirer really have the story right concerning Marlon Brando's love child and the Hearst diamond?

Are all you people wackjobs?

Simon, if stupidity kills, then why are YOU still alive?

That's nothing like the striking comparisons of Bush to Luke Skywalker. Both their fathers were pilots. Both of them became fighter pilots. It goes on for pages, so I guess it must be true.

Waitaminute.

Bush=William Pitt the Younger!

William Pitt the Elder was Prime Minister, and then his son became Prime Minister!

Spooky!

I'll tell you what's spooky -- the fact that Simpleton Simon is in the gene pool!

And Breeding!

It's a sign of a lack of ideas and an ability to argue coherently if you simply dismiss criticisms of Fuhrer Bush due to a comparison with Hitler.

Yeah, right Simon. NOBODY could breed with a dick as small as yours!

Aren't you that fat ass 375 LB. sweat hog. Of course no man has a 40"dick to get around your jelly rolls. I do know this even if one did how could they get past the smell of your unwashed cunt. Go eat another burger to save the planet from methane. Eat a cow a day and soon they will all be gone.

You can't compare Bush and Hitler based on number of victims or number of countries invaded. In today's world it would be impossible to exterminate 6 million people the way Hitler did. Also it's much more difficult to invade a country and occupy it in our time. The U.S. invaded Vietnam in 1963 and got stuck in a quagmire. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan in the 80's and got stuck in a quagmire. Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 and the U.N. ejected it's ass outta there. The U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003, and we're coming up on what appears to be the third act. So hold tight. Also, the world has changed. A country just can't wage war at will anymore. The rest of the countries do as much as they can to stop it. I guess pro-war people are incapable of comprehending this. As pointed out in certain articles, including one on this site, they have some similarities and some contrasts. The contrasts just make Bush look worse. Bush's stupidity make him a threat to the existence of humanity because of his access to nuclear weapons. He's actually a greater threat than Hitler.

Whenever we liberals have nothing intelligent to say or add to the conversation, which is 100% of the time, we often delute ourselves with comparisons of Hitler and Bush.

The stuff that the left wing fringe comes up with is totally off the wall and ridiculous.

Comparisons of Bush and Hitler are a good example of that. Tax cuts for the rich, no war for oil, and other erroneous and lame themes further underscore their extreme stupidity.

This war represents a major coup for democracy and for our esteemed leaders, Bush, Rumsfeld, etc.

The war planners have been vindicated. Never before in history has their been such military success with so few casualties.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-04-02-assumptions-usat_x.htm

The liberation of Najaf reminds one of the liberation of Paris in WWII. It's great to see the smiling faces of the Iraqi people.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-04-02-najaf-cover_x.htm

Bush is starting to look like a truly great President.

While we're on a roll, and while we're in the neighborhood, perhaps our boys should pay visits to Iran and Syria.

Fucking you Simpletons Simones. Diogenes and Sheepsdogs are my agents, my Information Officer and Mt American Propaganda Minister.

They have been promised a large buttfuckings by my Minister of Rapists. I shall soon be president for life of the USA. My buddies shall be all powerfuls. I remember how the Germans Peoples Voted for Hitlers and thats why the Americans voteds for Buschy.

I will say this though the peoples woh thinks Hitler is alive in the USA can moves to my Country for safety. Tis is a promise like I made my sons in laws. You will be safe would I kill the fathers of my grandchildren?

Hey Bush Ass-mirer, this stuff about democracy is laughable. When we supposedly liberated Kuwait ,in Desert Storm 1,we handed that country right back to the Royal Family. When we supposedly liberated Afghanistan we gave the drug runners and warlords the reins. And how much "democracy" is there in Saudi Arabia,our good friends....Duh...NONE!!! This is another exercise in naked bloodthirsty empire building.
And if you think the Middle Eastern people are as synchophantic and compliant as the typical American, you have a rude awakening coming.

Actually, they are far more sychophantic, far more ignorant, far more banal, and far more compliant than any American. How else can you account for decades of lying prostrate to despotic rulers - warlords and sheiks! These are broken people. They need a little help.

And we're gonna give it to them.

That's right, Simon. WAR WAR WAR! Aid and comfort Bush!

Pimpled Simon...you are right they(the middle eastern people) have been ruled by warlords and sheiks. Supplied with arms and backed by the US government . But that is how the right wing-nuts usually do business..... with stool pigeons,bribes and spies. Yep, that is "democracy" for you.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

Psympleton's solution - more of the same. We'll teach them Sand Niggers what's good for em'.

We'll replace a brutal Iraqi Military Dictator with a brutal American Approved Military Dictator.

See how much of an improvement that will be?

Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) rolls on, over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over....

Diogenes prefers the devil he already knows.

He thinks the Iraqi people are better off with their ba'athist butcherboy.

He thinks the Taliban were swell guys.

He probably has a glowing opinion of North Korea and Vietnam.

He thinks brown people are undeserving of freedom and opportunity.

...ever notice how Psymple likes to take somebody's viewpoint and warp it into something totally disrelated to the original post?

Psympleton - you know well enough by now I am not going to bite on the bait.

As well you have been around long enough to KNOW that I despised Saddam and the pseudo-religious insanity of the Taliban. (Among other things I will never forgive the bastards for blowing the Archaeologic Treasures of Afghanistan because it did not fit their warped world view.

I despise the Korean brand of Totaltarianism as much as I despise the brand you are selling.

Stopping fucking with my Minister of propaganda, Mr. Diogenes. He supports me and I have promised him he can come to Iraq and participate in torturing the betraying bastards in my country.
I have also promised him a big assfucking from Big Dick Ali my Minister of Rapists. So Mr. Simon stop being such a nasty man and helping my buddy Diogenes.

You know what Diogenes? I believe you. I believe you really do detest the Taliban and Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong Il (though you left out any reference to the Vietnamese. Oversight?).

I believe that you love your country, and that you think your country is on the wrong track by prosecuting this war to remove Saddam Hussein over the protestations of countries such as Russia, France, and Germany.

But Diogenes, what happens when all the evidence shows that Saddam tortures people, murders POW's, kills his own civilians, and possesses biological and chemical weapons?

Will you feel shamed that the people of Iraq are naming their infant daughters "America"?

( http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030402/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_us_pow_52 ) Bottom of article.

Will you feel shamed that you stood in favor of doing nothing while the Ba'athists butchered the Iraqi people?

I wonder.

...if we're trying to build an empire, we keep giving the countries back?

Kuwait: drove Iraq out; we weren't out to conquer Kuwait.

Afghanistan: what government they have is light-years better than the Taliban (tonight we're gonna party like it's 1199!). And if you don't like them selling drugs, don't buy them.

Saudi Arabia: I must have missed the news where we invaded Saudi. Got a reference?

Dude...if you're gonna debate history, learn history.

April 4th's news provided confirmation of much of the analysis, direct from the spook propaganda source itself. US to control the majority of Iraqi countryside. Everything but the mention of "the oil fields have been secured." Of course, the oil fields are in the countryside/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23898-2003Apr3.html

Additional confirmation--Baghdad to be treated like Leningrad: surrounded and cut off from the countryside.
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030403-071901-3378r

As usual, Indymedia breaks the story first!

Baghdad to be treated like Leningrad: isolated from countryside.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/03/sprj.irq.pentagon/index.html

ABC News reporting WWII Leningrad-style isolation policy for Baghdad:

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030403_1576.html

As usual, Indymedia reported it first!

Fido: "Will you feel shamed that the people of Iraq are naming their infant daughters "America"? "


.....what the article doesn't mention is that the middle name they are giving them is "Sucks"....

.....what the article doesn't mention is that the middle name they are giving them is "Sucks"...."

Well then, you should leave. I mean, I want you to be happy and since this place "sucks" you should move to someplace that doesn't.

Even the SF Comical is reporting on this, except they fail to mention the most significant goal of the war has been achieved: the oil fields have been secured!

As usual, Indymedia breaks the story 2 days early...
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Tanks, troops battle for Baghdad airport
STRATEGY: Cut off Baghdad from rest of the country

Edward Epstein, Chronicle Washington Bureau

Washington -- The American assault on Baghdad may be aimed more at isolating Saddam Hussein's regime from the rest of the country than capturing the center of the capital city, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggested Thursday.

That strategy would allow the United States and Britain to press ahead with controlling the rest of Iraq, creating a provisional government and finally toppling Hussein's regime, Gen. Richard Myers said at a Pentagon press conference.

"When you get to the point where Baghdad is basically isolated, then what is the situation you have in the country?" Myers said. "You have a country that Baghdad no longer controls, that whatever's happening inside Baghdad is almost irrelevant compared to what's going on in the rest of the country."

Myers said with Baghdad cut off, the United States would proceed to establish an interim government in the rest of Iraq, start reconstruction and bring in vast amounts of food and medicine.

The strategy may explain in part the Army's effort Thursday to seize Saddam International Airport about a dozen miles from the center of Baghdad. The airport would give the Americans a huge base they can use to bring in supplies and fly nonstop close-air support of ground operations.

Also, the New York Times reported that special forces had cut the road from Baghdad to Tikrit, Hussein's ancestral home and stronghold to the north of the capital, hoping to catch fleeing members of the regime.

PROBING FOR 'TIPPING POINT'

Myers' comments and the battlefield developments came as military leaders probe for the "tipping point" at which the Hussein regime will fall.

Analysts said that time could come when so much damage is inflicted on Iraq's military that its forces just give up. In towns where American or British forces are already present, it could come when locals become convinced the invading troops won't leave them at Hussein's mercy, as happened after the 1991 Gulf War.

In Baghdad, the moment could come when Hussein's inner circle decides that President Bush isn't going to stop the assault and that the regime is doomed.

Thus far, however, Iraqi resistance continues, and no one knows when -- or if -- the tipping point will come, short of a block-by-block fight in Baghdad. Myers wouldn't call the plan to isolate Baghdad a siege, but his words suggest U.S. planners want to avoid a fight within the city of 5 million people against Hussein's hard-core supporters.

Some analysts think the end is near.

"The history of people who rule by fear is that things collapse rather quickly," said Thomas Donnelly of the American Enterprise Institute. This is what happened in 1989 to the Soviet Union's East Bloc satellites and to the Soviet Union itself.

But others warn that Hussein's resilient regime won't go without a big fight yet to come. "I think the strategy is sound to pursue the tipping point, but I don't think it will be reached without significant fighting in Baghdad," said Michael O'Hanlon, military analyst at the Brookings Institution.

Pushing Iraq to the tipping point, even in the face of an assault that has included 12,000 precision-guided bombs in the past two weeks, hasn't been easy.

Although Myers said U.S. and British forces control 45 percent of Iraq, there has been more scattered resistance from Basra north to Baghdad than Pentagon planners initially expected. In many places, Iraqis have greeted American and British forces warily, not with the joy that some administration supporters expected. And the Iraqi military hasn't imploded.

Administration supporters say the Iraqis have been reticent to greet U.S. and British forces because of the presence of Hussein's enforcers, who have taken retribution on people who tried to surrender, cooperate with the allied forces, or even leave their towns to escape the fighting.

American officials say that as the occupation continues, people will see that the allied forces are there to help, aren't leaving, and that it's safe to cooperate and even to help turn in Hussein's local forces.

Provoking a collapse of the regime could depend on breaking communications links and the chain of command. But Kenneth Pollack of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy, a Hussein biographer, said the Iraqi military is chronically disorganized and units are used to getting no orders or conflicting edicts and often operate in an information vacuum.

"Iraqi command and control is always frayed and discombobulated," he said.

"There may be a degradation of Iraq's command and control, but it's hard to tell because by any historical standards the Iraqis are doing about as well or as poorly as they always do," Pollack said.

APPEALS TO IRAQI OFFICERS

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld sounded Thursday like a man no longer much interested in finding the tipping point. In a blunt warning to Iraq's armed forces, he said, "Iraqi officers and soldiers can still survive and help to rebuild a free Iraq if they do the right thing.

"They must now decide whether they want to share the fate of Saddam Hussein,

or whether they will save themselves, turn on that condemned dictator, and help the forces of Iraq's liberation. I must say, however, that given the conduct of the Iraqi regime, it increasingly seems that Iraq is running out of real soldiers, and soon all that will be left are war criminals," concluded the defense secretary.

Chronicle news services contributed to this report. / E-mail Edward Epstein at eepstein@sfchronicle.com.

..daveman admonishes someone else to "learn history"? pot meet kettle?

d: Kuwait: drove Iraq out; we weren't out to conquer Kuwait.

j: kuwait continues to be a monarchy that serves, asa client state, the interests of the us. indeed, the kuwaiti monarchy continues to accumulate welath while neglecting its own citizens and oppressing its own minority groups.

d: Afghanistan: what government they have is light-years better than the Taliban (tonight we're gonna party like it's 1199!). And if you don't like them selling drugs, don't buy them.

j: the karzai "government of afghanistan" is really just the govt of kabul; the rest of the country is controlled by warlords whom the rawa and others have accused of being the same as--or worse than--the taliban. we should note further that the state of afghanistan is still in woeful condition, still in a state of combat with us forces engaged, and still not democratic, since karzai was imposed by oil interests. like kuwait, afghanistan is a us client regime.

d: Saudi Arabia: I must have missed the news where we invaded Saudi. Got a reference?

j: the saudi state has been a us client regime since at least 1944, but more likely since the late 30s when the us, the nazis, and the house of saud set up various mutually beneficial arrangements. the house of saud is a brutal wahhabi monarchy, very similar to the taliban. the house of saud has virtually no support among everyday arabs, and draws most of its strength from the "security" derived from its relation with the us.

d: Dude...if you're gonna debate history, learn history.

j: a ludicrous charge, to be honest. i suggest that you attempt to discern the true pattern of relations between the us state and the elites of these nations. sure, they are all nominally "independent" insofar as they aren't literally colonies, as was india a british colony. however, the hierarchy is similar, the flow of wealth is similar, and the politics are similar: rather than an old fashioned 19th century style colonialism, the us empire is neocolonialist, preferring to use local elites, mercenaries, special forces, dupes, and so on rather than direct military occupation. that the us has had to occupy yugoslavia, afghanistan, and now iraq attests to the failure of the preferred neocolonialist policies.

...as usual spewing the party line. No, no, no, it isn't about Oil, control of Oil, Petrodollars versus PetroEuros, or anything like that. We sent our troops over there out of the overwhelming "goodness" in the hearts of the Chicken Hawk Brigade Bush, Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld -- and their bosses over at the Federal Reserve. All are legendary for their concern about their fellow man - just look at all their charitable works.

It couldn't possibly be that the Iraqi people don't want to be killed by the Invading Army and are smiling and waving in the hope that they won't be blown into Paradise Prematurely by the humane Bombers of the Just Us Coalition.

And of course we knew all along that it was about "Liberating the Iraqi People". All those other reasons we gave before like:

Inspections and letting the inspectors back in.

Cooperating with the Inspectors.

The "Rolling Laboratories of Death" (ROFL).

The Plagiarized WMD® Documents by Colin, look at this drawing and Imagine..., Powell is his Famous Presentation to the U.N.

Or removing the 5% or less of WMDs® Saddam MAY have had left.

No all of those were just RealPolitik cover for our true motives Liberating the Iraqi Oil Wells ... Oops I mean "Liberating the Iraqi People®".

BA you are just too much. Do you do Vegas?

"It couldn't possibly be that the Iraqi people don't want to be killed by the Invading Army and are smiling and waving in the hope that they won't be blown into Paradise Prematurely by the humane Bombers of the Just Us Coalition. "

even you're not so deluded to believe that are you Rupert?

Most Americans don't know anything about Hitler. What they know about him they learned from school history books and/or a movie. It seems to me that most of the people who make the Hitler/Bush comparisons are people who have actually done some research. It is not just a comparison of two men from different eras. They actually have a bond. Prescott Bush, Dubya's grandfather, donated money to the Nazis, and shared some of the same idealogy. Enough to give them money. When was the last time you gave someone money?

That George Bush has accelerated the assault on the bill of rights that has been taking place ever since the war on drugs started, is undeniable. He even won by keeping thousands of black people from voting in Florida.

That some people can't see George W. Bush for the fascist that he is, well, perhaps it's because they have his dick stuck way down their throat.

You are a total waste of time, a joke, and a fucking idiot. Go play on the freeway with Bush Admirer. No, wait, geez, if the two of you got close enough to mate, God help us. Stay the fuck away from each other on second thought.

Please post when you have something of value to contribute. Until then, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

"That George Bush has accelerated the assault on the bill of rights that has been taking place ever since the war on drugs started, is undeniable. He even won by keeping thousands of black people from voting in Florida. "

More empty buzzwords. Give some examples of this "assault" on the Bill of rights and PLEASE give some verification of voter fraud in Florida. And if possible, please refrain from posting links to websites which in and of themselves are unverifiable.

Nice job on that post.

BTW: Ignore Fresca. She wouldn't believe that Bush is a Nazi if Hitler came back from the dead and verified it for her.