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Marine Corps Reservist Refuses to Fight!

by fta Wednesday, Apr. 02, 2003 at 6:54 PM

I support THIS Marine! Marine Corps reservist Stephen Funk, center, reads a statement before turning himself in at his reserve unit in San Jose, Calif., Tuesday April 1, 2003. Behind Funk is his sister Caitlin Funk, left, and his mother, Gloria Pacis, right. The 20-year-old Marine reservist, called to active duty, refuses to serve in the Iraqi conflict, claiming conscientous objector status. (AP Photo/Eric Risberg)

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Marine Corps Reservist Stephen Funk has publicly declared his conscientious objection to war, turning himself over to theU.S. military authorities on Tuesday morning, April 1, 2003 at 9 am. He explained his decision to the media at the 1st Beach TerminalOperations, 4th Landing Support Battalion, located at 901 E. Mission Street in San Jose. Funk, who grew up in Seattle, is one of an unknown number of reservists and active duty service members who have declared themselves Conscientious Objectors in current Iraqi conflict and any other war.

"I refuse to kill," says the twenty-year-old reservist. "It is scary to confront the military, because the military teaches you to submit to orders even when you object. I may not be a hero, but I know that it takes courage to disobey. I know that it demands courage to say "no" in the face of coercion."

Funk enlisted in the Marine Corps in February 2002 and easily made it through six months of Marine boot camp where he specialized in assisting helicopters land. But as he trained in the use of weapons and how to kill with a bayonet, Funk became increasingly uneasy about what his new career really meant. According to his attorney Stephen Collier, Funk went on Unauthorized Absence (UA) early this year, but has always intended to turn himself in.

"I cannot in good conscience take part in war. I object to war because I believe that it is impossible to achieve peace through violence,"says Funk, who added, "I hope that other soldiers will find the courage to follow their beliefs. I hope other soldiers will listen to the voice of their conscience and come, in their own ways, to question the "logic" of war. I hope other soldiers will come to see that they are more than cogs in the machinery of war, but free individuals with the unconquerable power of free will."

It seems that the reservist may not be alone in his concern. Calls to the G.I. Rights Hotline, a group that counsels soldiers about their legal rights, have spiked recently, doubling since 2002. 3,582 calls were recorded in January and 3,118 in February, 2003. There were1,585 calls in September of 2002. The number for the G.I. Rights Hotline is (800) 394-9544.
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Ms.

by Erica Thursday, Apr. 03, 2003 at 8:38 PM
Goodwyn

I don't think that any one who has willing signed up to be in the military has a right to change their mind because we were at war now. I think that it is a searious cop out. I am sure no one had a problem when they were just making money and playing soldier. What did they expect when they signed up to be in the military anyway? Did they think that they think that they could just get our taxpayers money and not be obligated to protect the US? I could see if people were drafted and had no other choice, but they did and they should be protecting the US right now and not crying about something as dumb as I don't want to kill anyone. Put there butts out there and you will see how quick that logic will change, he will kill or be killed. Bottom line is nothing in life is for free. You can't serve in the military and play soldier until we actually go to war and say well I don't want to go to war. I am ashamed that we have these kinds of soldiers in our military to start with.
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He lives in a free country, doesn't him?

by El DIABLO Thursday, Apr. 03, 2003 at 9:10 PM

He made the right choice not supporting an army of brain-washed soldiers killing in the name of freedom . This war is a joke. They complain about "weapons of mass destruction", but they don't talk about their 45000 lbs bombs or their b -52's and all the deadly arsenal the US have. Aren't the tomahawk missiles weapons of mass destruction too? They want to disarm iraq. But who disarm the US? Who 's gonna end up paying concecuences? Poor iraqis civilians? Poor US marines who joined because the military oferred them a better future? The goverment wants 80 billions to support war... but are you going to see a penny out of that money? Who's the puppet here and who's the puppeteer? You have the right to analize and think. Wake up and see the reality in this. Sometimes you have to get out of the circle to really understand and see what's going on. Don't let them blind fold you ! THINK and you will see that " the truth is out there"...
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To El Diablo

by Major Thursday, Apr. 03, 2003 at 9:38 PM

You said: Poor US marines who joined because the military oferred them a better future?

If he believed that signing up did not include the responsibility to follow orders and to kill -
A dummy like him should have been culled from the gene pool a long time ago.

If you agree with him and his family, I would caution you NOT to give a DNA sample either.
The ridicule might be more than you could bear.

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yes erica, to protect

by thomas Thursday, Apr. 03, 2003 at 9:45 PM

Yes, to protect the US, thats different. Whats going on over there is not protecting the US. Well, maybe US interests.
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Cpl

by Brandon Bowlin Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 6:09 AM
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"Easily made it through six months of bootcamp." Being that bootcamp for Marines is only 3 months, it means this ass must have either got hurt or recycled, thereby making him one "of those" that has a hard time getting through. I think this guy should be thrown in the brig and then be forced to pay back all the money it took to train his sorry butt.
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One Proud Marine

by Ret. Marine Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 8:07 AM

I sat in a movie theater watching "Schindler's List," asked myself, "Why didn't the Jews fight back?"

Now I know why.

I sat in a movie theater, watching "Pearl Harbor" and asked myself, "Why weren't we prepared?"

Now I know why.

Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil people.

On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed themselves to be overpowered by a handful of poorly armed terrorists because they did not comprehend the depth of hatred that motivated their captors.

On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too many Americans naively reject the reality that some nations are dedicated to the dominance of others. Many political pundits, pacifists and media personnel want us to forget the carnage. They say we must focus on the bravery of the rescuers and ignore the cowardice of the killers. They implore us to understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major television stations have announced they will assist the healing process by not replaying devastating footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers.

I will not be manipulated.

I will not pretend to understand.

I will not forget.

I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press to kick our country when it was vulnerable and hurting.

I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President Bush's address to the nation with the snide remark, "No matter how you feel about him, he is still our president."

I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned President Bush's motives for not returning immediately to Washington, DC and commented, "We're all pretty skeptical and cynical about Washington."

And I will not forget that ABC's Mark Halperin warned if reporters weren't informed of every little detail of this war, they aren't "likely -- nor should they be expected -- to show deference."

I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending an attack on the USS Cole in Yemen was not an attack on the United States of America.

I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic terrorists and their supporters with the world's most sophisticated telecommunications equipment and encryption technology, thereby compromising America's ability to trace terrorist radio, cell phone, land lines, faxes and modem communications.

I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes like those perfected by the previous administration.

I will not be comforted by "feel-good, do nothing" regulations like the silly, "Have your bags been under your control?" question at the airport.

I will not be influenced by so called, "antiwar demonstrators" who exploit the right of _expression to chant anti-American obscenities.

I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by American war protesters who reviled and spat upon the returning soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines.

I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose reassurance over reality.

I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told the Labor Party conference, "They have no moral inhibition on the slaughter of the innocent. If they could have murdered not 7,000 but 70,000, does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced in it?

There is no compromise possible with such people, no meeting of minds, no point of understanding with such terror. Just a choice: defeat it or be defeated by it. And defeat it we must!"

I will force myself to:
-hear the weeping
-feel the helplessness
-imagine the terror
-sense the panic
-smell the burning flesh
- experience the loss
- remember the hatred.

I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself, "Where did they find the courage?"

Now I know.

We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living.

-- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.)
Not as lean, Not as mean, But still a Marine.

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Stop watching movies

by Sheepdog Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 8:15 AM

Spam, gotta love it.
Army Infantry (PFC [proud fucking civilian]Ret.)
Nice try, get a life; please.
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Simple

by Simple Simon Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 8:26 AM

Sheepdog.
Brevity is the soul of wit, but brevity alone is not wit.

In other words, read what this man wrote and be shamed you cowardly traitorous hound.
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fuckup

by rorie Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 8:38 AM
sca sad dsadsa

if you sing up to kill youre a fool. If you sing up and not know you are gona kill youre a biger fool, and saying "i singed up to look good on a resum" is no good excuse. The benifit of a society that allways drags you down is a fuck. And MR you suck to say people don,t have the right to change there mind is like saying i'm a nazi and should die
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fuck you

by rorie Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 8:39 AM

you are a nazi scum bag die in youre bed and youre kids to fuck off
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proud punk

by rorie Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 8:47 AM

fuck the marines fuck you proud marien you and all the war hawk fucks are irational in youre thinking the way you look at war is a fuck why are you on this web site any way you whore youre ideals are for the violent scurge of the earth any one who defends you is my enimy as are you
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Simple

by Simple Simon Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 8:57 AM

Fuck off, you cameljockey.
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Simple

by Simple Simon Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 8:59 AM

You're a public school product, right?

I could just tell.

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Simple Simon

by Rev. Jerry Falwell Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:00 AM

Simon, do you always respond to your own posts?
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He has a right to his cowardice...

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:05 AM

Although he should have thought of the consequences before signing up. Give him his dishonorable discharge and send the milksop home to momma's waiting teat. We can't all be defenders of justice and freedom. Some folks just aren't cut out for it. Like most of these liberals on IMC. So the rest of us have to take up the slack for a few leeches, bloodsuckers, and parasites. Thus is the price of being a patriot.
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Eric

by Bush Admirer Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:07 AM

That's right, Eric. WAR WAR WAR! Aid and comfort Bush! You're a good killing machine, Eric.
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Look you buffoon...

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:16 AM

Quit using the name of others to post your drivel. Be a man for Christ's sake. Have some sac. Pick a fucking moniker and stick with it. Subject yourself to criticism and the ridicule, as well as the praise, of others. Let everyone know to whom they speak. Be you. Not a coward. You can do it. I know you can.

There would not even be war if the majority thought like this kid, that it's "unnecessary". The bottom line is that this war is a consequence of the will of the majority being exercised and solidified through government action. That's Democracy. If you're going to stay in America you should get used to it.
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Eric

by Bush Admirer Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:19 AM

That WAS me, you paranoid schizo. Living in mom's basement has really done a number on your mental health.
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You must be a pathetic individual

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:25 AM

to be such a chickenshit nothing. Life must be really difficult for you. I'm sorry. Maybe things'll get better for you someday. But for now, I'd just recommend listening to that innner voice that is telling you to grow some balls.
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J'Accuse

by Emile Zola Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:29 AM

Spammer is Wow. Spammer is Lynx-11. Spammer is Anonymous Volunteer.
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Eric

by Eric's ex-girlfriend Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:31 AM

It is YOU that needs to grow some balls. Yours look like shriveled-up raisins. Your 2" penis isn't anything to write home about, either. You are a pathetic excuse for a REAL man.
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You're never going to get rid of us

by &*^(&*%%#$#@%$@$$%^$&^%(&(*&^(&*&*)&*) Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:34 AM

We like it here. We're here forever. You'll get bored long before we do. We eat, breath and shit spam.

And we've infected this forum.
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wow

by wow Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:40 AM

like
herpies/harpies
wow
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Yeah, you tell'em Airic

by Diogenes Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:45 AM

We can't have any of this silly squeamishness where people begin to question Der Fuhrer's horders. After all Ve har "Compassionate Conservatives" Ve kill women und children with kindness, Cluster Bombs, Napalm, Depleted Uranium, MOABs, Tomahawks, Tank Treads, Starvation, Thirst, M-16s, Hand Grenades, Machine Guns, and our bare hands if we feel like. We tough killing machines. War Good. Blood Good. Murder Good. Imperial Conquest Good. Oil Good. Oil God.

After all it's not all of us who have the credulousity, nor the "sacs" to do this kind of work. You go killer.
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J'Accuse

by Emile Zola Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 9:47 AM

I like gibberish.
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It's "credulousness" you bozo.

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:00 AM

God, you're so fucking stupid.

And give that German accent thing a rest. It is soooo over and done at this point it's just sad. I mean, I'm sure you do a great Colonel Klink or Sgt. Shultz in person but it just looses it's effect in print.

Why do you feel the need to make a hyperbole out of my position? Is that the only way you think you can get your point accross? C'mon Diogenes, I know you can do better than that.

I'll make a deal right now with all of you liberals. You want me to be civil and provide you with rational debate, I will. From now on. I promise. Nothing but rational and non-invective debate for those that extend me the same courtesy.

I'm turning over a new leaf. Be nice to me, I'll play nice as well. You get what you give. Let's try to clean LA IMC up a bit. Cut back on the spam a bit. Whaddaya say?
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Eric

by Sir Ian McKellan Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:03 AM

You, sir, are a buffoon.
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That didn't take long, did it.

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:06 AM

Funny how that works. Guess I should go to the U.N. now and sponsor a resolution to disarm you 5th column leftists. But the French would just veto, so fuck-it.

Let me go see if I can get Congress to give me a blank check.
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Read carefully, Eric

by Sir Ian McKellan Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:06 AM

I am a British conservative, you twit.
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What do I care what you are?

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:09 AM

Please explain to me why I should care what you are?
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Eric

by Sir Ian McKellan Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:11 AM

My, what a display of maturity. I posted my political stance due to your labeling all of us as "5th column leftists." You are one confused little lad, indeed.
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If the shoe fits...

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:20 AM

put the thing on and strut about. Do the Tango or the Rhumba in it. Jump up and down in front of Parliament if you like. Climb atop and rest Old Ben to daylight savings time if it makes you feel any better.

I really could give a flip what you're political affiliations are. Did I ask you? Was I even talking to you?

You sir, are a retard.

Now go have some tea and crumpets you British lackey.
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Eric

by Sir Ian McKellan Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:25 AM

Again, what a display of maturity. You are the intellectual equivalent of a ten year-old child, as your comments have elucidated. With nitwits like you, no wonder your country is the laughing stock of the world.
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Oh pucker up and give the old arse a smooch

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:37 AM

I suppose it's mature to jump from thread to thread calling people nincompoops, buffoons, imbeciles and whatnot. Is that how you brits figure it? No wonder you country is insignificant and marginalized. No wonder the French piss all over you every other week. (Note: America has French Canadians that live next door to us and when they get out of hand, we simply bitch-slap them)

You know, they used to say that "the sun never sets on the British Empire" but now it seems like the sun hasn't shined on that isle in decades.

So now what we're we talking about again? Ah yes. You're innate maturity. My appologies for interrupting. Go ahead. We're all ears ver here across the Atlantic. Enlighten us.
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Poor, little misguided Eric

by Bud Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:40 AM
bud@telus.net

It appears evident that Eric never has and never will know enlightenment. Maybe he should try reading a book for once in his life.
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Bud

by Emile Zola Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:45 AM

What else could you expect from someone who listens to the likes of "Snoop Dog?" His musical taste is fitting with his political opinions. What a pathetic individual.
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Poor little misguided Bud.

by Susan Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:45 AM

Nothing better to do than to spam internet forums with insignificant comments. Perhaps he should go read a book.
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Chiken Marine

by Dao Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:45 AM
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Why did Stephen Funk wait until we are at war then refuse to serve? Why did he join in Marine for? He should never thought of joining arm forces to get free education, etc....He had let his teammates down. Especially during this time as many of his teammates are fighting out there to protect his freedom of life. He should had learned from Jessica Lynch. A 19 yrs old young female soldier even has higher spirit than this guy.
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Oh now lets not get racist

by Martin Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:49 AM

Snoopdog is an icon to black music entertainment. He is an effigy of gangster rap and gang bangers.Eric obviously recognizes and appreciates things that many of you can't even understand.
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Susan

by Bud Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:50 AM
bud@telus.net

If you want to see "insignificant," just look into the nearest mirror, missy. You might also try reading something other than "People" magazine.
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Bud, your vitriol becomes you

by yahoo avenger Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:52 AM

Did you quit taking your medication again?
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Martin

by Emile Zola Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:53 AM

You should look up the word "racist" in a dictionary so you won't miuse it in the future. I obviously recognize and appreciate words that you don't understand.
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yahoo avenger

by Bud Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 10:54 AM
bud@telus.net

Hey, coward. Why don't you grow some BALLS and email me? No? Didn't think so.
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Ewww weeee! Big man.

by yahoo avenger Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 11:00 AM

Email you? Why should I do that? Maybe I'll just post your email address to a few homosexual porno newsgroups. You'd probably like that, wouldn't you.

Fag.
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Hey Bud...

by hey bud Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 11:06 AM

Canada sux.
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What the....?

by Stop the Bullshit Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 12:27 PM

Why the fuck would you be a Marine Corps reservist if your against war? He knew he could be called up to battle. Well, first, he should be thrown in a goddamn jail cell and second, if he got any money for school or something then every single penny shoul be paid back.
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Simple

by Simple Simon Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 12:33 PM

Now I understand the problem.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&e=5&u=/ap/20030403/ap_on_re_us/war_conscientious_objector
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Hey Simon!

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 1:06 PM

Thanks!!!!!

I should have known!!!!!

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

That's classic!!! IMC just keeps me on the floor howling all day long!

Looks like Funk likes to do the funky chicken fudge pack with his funky boyfriends!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You're a retard

by mymicz Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 1:13 PM

So if you go out on a date, and the guy expects you to fuck him, and you know it, that means you have no right to change your mind right? Well, Mr. Funk was at least smart enough to figure out he was gonna get fucked, considering how the GI bill doesn't even pay 1/2 of what they promise. Besides, the mere fact that the government offers all these things to GI's and doesn't come through (example 25 billion in Veterans program cuts) is against the law. The government is committing fraud in the context of negotiations with enlistees by promising them more than America can handle. That is called unfair competition for employees and it is illegal.
Go Funk Go Funk Go Funk!!!!
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Simple

by Simple Simon Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 1:18 PM

What would you know about the GI Bill?

You read somewhere that the military isn't paying off on the GI Bill?

Documentation on this rediculous and uttterly false accusation?
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Umm

by mymicz Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 1:22 PM

I knwo several enlistees who served eight years or more who only saw half their promised funds in the end, and you? One is a medic from Gulf war one, one is a Panama vet, one is soldier with Gulf war syndrome, who can't get the VA to help him, one is a homeless Vietnam Vet on the street, one of the 40,000 on Los Angeles's streets today.) Don't ask me, hit the street, ask where the problem really comes from, and ask yourself if this is really a way to treat our boyz we love so much. I'm no communist, I'm just disgusted by the truth I hear from vets, that's all.
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Oh please...

by Eric Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 1:27 PM

Funk is just a malingerer, plain and simple. Saw this act performed many times over the course of my service. Let the child go back home and slob all the knobs he likes. The rest of us will keep it free for him to continue his aberrant sexual behaviors.
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mymicz

by Stop the Bullshit Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 1:31 PM

mymicz, I fail to see how your analogy of getting fucked on a date has anything to do with the military. But keep it up. Last I heard was that if your in the military you might have to kill but if your on a date you have a choice to fuck or not, just like you said. What I was trying to say was that he should have never joined in the first place. I never said that he didn't have a choice not to desert. By the way Simon, that explains it all. Thanks!
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Simple

by Simple Simon Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 1:34 PM

What a bunch of crap.

The GI Bill is an amazingly good program which can pay out UP TO 50,000 bucks. Maybe more now, it's been a while since I used mine.

The way the system works, you sign up and you get paid for every month you're in school. When I used mine it was $800.00 a month. Now, what CAN happen is that you won't see all the money because the amount you receive is based on the amount of time per month you are in school.

For instance: In May of 1993, I was finishing up the last month of my Spring semester. School let out on the 6th or 7th of the month. The GI Bill paid me $800.00 for May, but then sent me a bill for $600.00 back. Since I had only been in school for 25% of the month, I was only entitled to 25% of the GI Bill.

Or in other words, your pals are bitching and moaning about things that are in their contract in plain English. Or they are a pair of liars.
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MR FUNK MY MANS

by SADDAM Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 1:35 PM

Mr. Funk is now a Generals in my Army of the Republican Guard. Soon all the coward American will quit the fight and I will be to your country shortly thereafter with my VX for your mamma. PS. I can fuck your girlfriend too.
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GI Bill works for me

by .... Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 2:18 PM

GI bill (or VEAP or whatever it name was at the time) paid for me too. There are different programs at different times. Take time to apply and met the requirements and they work -- or they did for me at least.
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god damn warmongers

by Pissed Off in Ohio Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 2:41 PM

You sacks of shit are a damn disgrace to humanity.

Simon you fucking worm I hope you fully realize the blood on your hands. Rallying for this shit is the same exact thing as pulling the trigger, or pushing the button, especially the obsessive zeal with which you insist on attacking anything that resembles decency. Fuck you, you disgusting waste of a life. You are the very worst of society.

Eric: I think you don't know what it is to kill a man. Perhaps you should go find out. See if you thirst for blood as much afterwords. If you do, try your own please, and save us all the trouble. If not, welcome to reality. This shit is not a video game, no matter how much they can disconnect the murderers from their victims.

And to whoever was spouting off about the movies, Ed I think... We'll try this real slow for you... Movies are not real. Once again: The moving pictures up on the wall are not reality. They're made by actors and directors and hollywood to seperate you from $7.25. They work best if they evoke some sort of response from you. They usually try to finish within a couple hours, ideally with a happy ending, or a conclusion of some sort. You won't get any of that here, thats how its designed and thats part of the problem. There is no finish line, the movie will never be over, we'll just be touring the world oppressing (aka murdering, pillaging, 'defending ourselves from') whoever we feel like. That is not a righteous, or even moral, or even realistic plan. So can that holier than though crap please, save it for someone else because i don't think anyone here could possibly be led to believe that killing for capitalism halfway around the world could be considered honorable in any sense of the word.

(I realize that was basically a response to spam but whatever, it was too thickly laid down bullshit to be ignored).

And to any of you chickenhawks so foolish as to imagine all us anti-war protesters are a bunch of granola eating pacifist hippies... well... you're sadly mistaken. I for one have a deep respect for human life and would typically suffer much personal hardship before inflicting any in response, but when you thugs decide to go on a murderous, bloody tour, in my name, for my 'wellbeing' and 'liberty', than as an american that blood is on my hands too and i will not stand for it. IF YOU ASSHOLES CONTINUE TO RAPE OUR COUNTRY THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY.

And no i'm not getting out of 'your' country. You assholes hijacked the american dream, turned it into some twisted fascist nazi regime, and I will not let it go as easily as you may hope.

And to any of you who think you're doing the right thing by supporting this bloody god damn war, please wake up. This is all very, very wrong and it will not solve anything. It will destroy us in the process as well. Probably not this war itself but the process this war begins. You must fight it or it will destroy you as well. To wait and see would be to wait too late. Action must be taken right now.

At the very least, get ready to guard your civil liberties with your life. For or against the war, every American must be willing to defend their rights because we lose them by the day and without them we may as well be serfs in the dark ages. There is nothing patriotic about the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act. The sequel will be no better.
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Simple

by Simple Simon Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 3:10 PM

Hey, Springfield, pipe down.

I'm for the liberation of Iraq.

What're you for?
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one proud marine...with a chemical imbalance

by marc Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 4:13 PM

this one proud marine guy has WAY to much hatred in him. i wonder what the hell happens to someone to make them so angry. dude, i live in NY and lived sept.11. iraq had nothing to do with that and i don't think it validates indescriminate killing for "peace". leave your bunker in the woods sometime and talk to someone.
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To: Marc

by Right on....!!!! Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 4:36 PM

To:  Marc...
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Saddam had -0- to do with 9-11. But I guess reality is meaningless to those who need an excuse to murder innocent women and children. We had it done to us on 9-11 in NYC. We were outraged (rightfully so). Now here we are doing the same thing in another country....and it's OK cuz we are the USA. What the heck is wrong with THAT logic!?!?!?!

NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!!
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blood for oil?

by Stop the Bullshit Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 4:43 PM

"NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!!"

You should read This War is Not for Oil in the latest news part. You could learn from it
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latest news part

by Parts is parts Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 4:46 PM

What the hell are you blithering about?
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an as-yet unspoken point

by John Galt Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 4:56 PM
johngalt64@email.com

It seems to me that the pro-Bush, pro-war
crowd in this forum should stop rising to
the bait of the anti-Bush, anti-war crowd.
It's like arguing about abortion: everybody
gets mad but nobody gets listened to. The
minds are already made up.
Stephen Funk is a coward who sought to
avail himself of the opportunities afforded
those who choose to serve in the Marine
Corps. When the time came to fulfill his
half of the agreement into which he
voluntarily entered, he illegally avoided his
obligation. Then, in an attempt to
ameliorate whatever punishment he might
receive for his criminal transgressions, he
surrendered to military authorities in a
pageant of staged, photo-op grotesquerie
in which he claimed not only conscientious
objector status but "protected homosexual"
status as well. And, lending credence to my
charge of cowardice, he did this while
hiding behind the metaphorical skirts of his
mother and sister.
Which leads me to the real point of this post:
Caitlin Funk is one hot-assed whore!
I'd dearly love to fuck the dogshit out
of that bitch! Whadda' ya say, lefties?
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by christina Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 5:48 PM

[Redman:]
Ah, dirrty (dirrty)
Filthy (filthy)
Nasty (Christina), you nasty (yeah)
Too dirrty to clean my act up
If you ain't dirrty
You ain't here to party (woo!)

Ladies (move)
Gentlemen (move)
Somebody ring the alarm
A fire on the roof
Ring the alarm (and I'm throwin' elbows) [7x]

Oh, I'm overdue
Give me some room
I'm comin through
Paid my dues
In the mood
Me and the girls gonna shake the room

DJ's spinning (show your hands)
Let's get dirrty (that's my jam)
I need that, uh, to get me off
Sweat until my clothes come off

It's explosive, speakers are pumping (oh)
Still jumping, six in the morning
Table dancing, glasses are mashing (oh)
No question, time for some action

Temperature's up (can you feel it)
About to erupt
Gonna get my girls
Get your boys
Gonna make some noise

Wanna get rowdy
Gonna get a little unruly
Get it fired up in a hurry
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time that I came to start the party
Sweat dripping over my body
Dancing getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time for my arrival

Ah, heat is up
So ladies, fellas
Drop your cups
Body's hot
Front to back
Now move your ass
I like that

Tight hip huggers (low for sure)
Shake a little somethin' (on the floor)
I need that, uh, to get me off
Sweat until my clothes come off

Let's get open, cause a commotion (ooh oh)
We're still going, eight in the morning
There's no stopping, we keep it popping (oh)
Hot rocking, everyone's talking

Give all you got (give it to me)
Just hit the spot
Gonna get my girls
Get your boys
Gonna make some noise

Rowdy
Gonna get a little unruly
Get it fired up in a hurry
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time that I came to start the party
Ooh sweat dripping over my body
Dancing getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty (oh, oh)
It's about time for my arrival

Here it comes, it's the one
You've been waiting on
Get up, get it up
Yup, that's what's up
Giving just what you want
To the maximum
Uh oh, here we go (here we go)

You can tell when the music
Starts to drop
That's when we take it
To the parking lot
And I bet you somebody's
Gonna call the cops
Uh oh's, here we go's (here we go)

Ohh ooh ohh, yeah yeah...

[Redman:]
Yo, hot damn, Doc a jam like a summer show
I keep my car looking like a crash dummy drove
My gear look like the bank got my money froze
For dead presidents I pimp like Huddy roll
Doc the one that excite ya divas (ow!)
If the media shine
I'm shining with both of the sleeves up
Yo Christina, better hop in here
My block live and in color, like Rodman hair (yeah)
The club is packed, the bar is filled
I'm waiting for sister to act, like Lauryn Hill
Frankly, it's a rap, no bargain deals
I drive a four wheel ride with foreign wheels
Throw it up
Baby it's brick city, you heard of that
We blessed, and hung low, like Bernie Mac
Dogs, let 'em out, women, let 'em in
It's like I'm ODB, the way I'm freaking

Wanna get rowdy (rowdy, yeah)
Gonna get a little unruly (ruly)
Get it fired up in a hurry (hurry)
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time that I came to start the party (party)
Sweat dripping over my body (body)
Dancing getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time for my arrival

Rowdy
Gonna get a little unruly
(Ooh oh)
Get it fired up in a hurry
(Ooh oh)
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time that I came to start the party
Ooh sweat dripping over my body
Dancing getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time for my arrival

Rowdy
Gonna get a little unruly
Get it fired up in a hurry
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time that I came to start the party
Sweat dripping over my body
Dance and getting just a little naughty
Wanna get dirrty
It's about time for my arrival

Uh, what
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Wha?

by WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? Friday, Apr. 04, 2003 at 6:16 PM

Translations, please, Christina?
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ms

by kai Saturday, Apr. 05, 2003 at 12:37 AM

So u liberate iraq today, and who will u liberate next tomorrow? saddam is evil, and so are many other dictators. Will North Korea Kim Jungil be next? So you believe it is not blood for oil. Some think that the cost of the war far exceed the cost of just buying the oil. But the question here is, who pay for the war? Its taxpayers who fork out the money, not the president. And who get the lucrative contracts to rebuild Iraq post-war? It is Bush cronies. Please you guys, read more into it. What’s this kill kill kill and protect the US? Who is harming the US now, who is the aggressor now? And stop using the 911 as an excuse that US is vulnerable. Who provides the weapons to Iraq in the early 1980’s? Wasn’t US the one who support the Iraq war against Iran, why a sudden change of mind now? Who says it wants to rebuild Afghanistan after the bombing? And look who is abandoning it now? For god’s sake, if you guys look into all these, you will know this war has nothing to do with fighting for freedom for the Iraqis. It’s just an excuse, a story make up by your president and his advisors! A political play…the whole world can see it….
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Send him back to the shithole country his ansestors came from then

by america Monday, Dec. 13, 2004 at 8:21 PM

What a piece of shit. send his minority ass back to wherever the fuck he came from. Why are u making somone who wont fight for their own country who gives them all the freedome they want and the chance to be whatever they want publicity? Why arent u out their talking to all the marines and other service members who arent fucking worthless pieces of shit who only take from this country and give nothing back in return any publicity? The real hero's. That piece of shit deserves to be thrown in prison and raped in the ass. Fuck him and I hope he gets what he deserves. A one way ticket back to shotwhole land where his family originally came from. Have a nice day.
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Are we purposely targeting women and children?

by america Monday, Dec. 13, 2004 at 8:31 PM
agagag

Are we purposly bombing women and children? Are we attacking people for no reason while they work and try to live out their lives? Maybe an acasional civilian will die in iraq because sadamn and the other insergents are putting military targets in residential areas. What are you saposed to do about that let them attack you and not shoot back because there are civilian lives at stake? Its a fight for servival over there and no one has time to ponder ur pussy little polotics while they are being shot at. Why dont u go see how it is and then well see if u come back with the same point of view. You can talk like that because ur not over their risking ur life to rid the world of psychotic extremists.
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Are we purposely targeting women and children?

by looks that way Tuesday, Dec. 14, 2004 at 7:13 AM

Shooting fleeing civilians, forcing them back into a combat zone, snipers shooting anything that moves. I'd say it was a 'free fire zone' where anyone is a target through the turn of a phrase.
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P.O.S. damn tird

by Cpl.Baerliln Tuesday, Jun. 13, 2006 at 3:35 AM
Sethbaerlin@YAHOO.COM

you are a damn coward. you signed the line just so you could get college money didnt you. i hope they put your ass in the brig for your entire 6 year INACTIVE contract and give you a dishonorable discharge. you know what i dont ever want the words " I was a Marine.." ever come out of your mouth. reach down grab a pair and fall the f*ck in formation!
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