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by Maxim
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 7:40 AM
Some questions for you and your friends so that I can get to know you better.
First:
Governor Bush is not President of the United States. He and all his people are there illegally and they should be yanked from power and imprisoned.
Second:
Most of us (I'll limit it to those whom you are attacking) recognize that our system is corrupt to the core. We've always lived in a plutocracy/kleptocracy. We've been lied to from the very beginning. So this is not about Conservative or Liberal, Democrat or Republican. Bush is a scumbag. Clinton was a scumbag. They are merely whores to the moneyed interests.
Now, just for the sake of curiosity, let me ask you a question?
Why do you trust your government so much? Chances are you didn't trust Clinton one iota, right? So what makes Bush any better? Is it merely party affiliation? What is it? Is it merely an issue of faith, the benefit of the doubt? Is it that hard for you to consider that your government, or the current ruling administration is not the well-meaning, benevolent entity you think it is? Please tell me the reason for your loyalty? And don't tell me it's because you're a patriot. You were a patriot when you hated Clinton, like so many others on the right. Back then dissent was a good thing. It would have been unpatriotic, to say the least, to blindly follow Clinton, would it? So what is it with Bush? It seems to me that you would have learned something from Clinton. But you don't question Bush. Why is that? It's almost as if the second coming of Christ has already happened and George W. Bush is Him, in all His ever-loving glory and mercy. Please tell me what it is.
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by systemfailure
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 12:09 PM
This guy is a conservative right wing nazi lovin lying piece of dog shit.
He has no knowledge of what the constitution means of what it means to be an American.
He laughs and supports the corrupted corporate Republicrats when they shit all over our civil liberties.
He is a brainwashed program
He tried to lie and say he was a "special warfare" soldier
But when I called him on his bullshit.
He broke down and admitted he was in the coast guard during the first gulf war.
ATTENTION ALL INDY MEDIA WRITERS
find him and shut down all his arguments and make him see the light.
he is a chicken hawker and a warmonger
and has never served in a forward based front line combat unit.
Once we change him throught the overwhelming evidence of our governments corruption
he will see the light and become our greatest allie.
He means to do the right thing.
But he trusts in our government too much.
to quote walt whitman
OBEY LITTLE........RESIST MUCH.
AMERICA IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE -----NOT THE GOVERNMENT
LONG LIVE AMERICA
LONG LIVE FREEDOM
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by Simple Simon
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 4:44 PM
I am incapable of answering questions, as I am but a simpleton.
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by Diogenes
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 4:47 PM
Opposition to Evil is one of the highest goods.
The hour is late but the American Public is not yet so brainwashed that the Bush Junta has felt safe to stage a complete takeover.
Inform people. Don't get in their face, don't get angry at them, most mean well, but the schools combined with TV has them believing things that are not true. Ask them questions to lead them to the correct Conclusion. If you are not sure how to do this is or why it is effective do a search on "The Socratic Method". Socrates was brilliant at forcing people to "learn" by asking questions that made them examine why they believed what they did.
Do not cooperate with the War Machine. Passive Resistance and simple non-cooperation are the tactics which they are most flustered by because a violent response shows them for what they are. Monsters.
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by Diogenes
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 4:49 PM
...my guess is that you won't see a lot of Psympleton under his usual Nick. He made too many grandiose PsyOps PR claims that events have shown to be false.
Like the Cur he is he is heading for the tall grass.
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by Simple Simon
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 4:53 PM
Maxim, I don't think I can give you a satisfactory answer to your question. Your view of the structure and operation of the government is so negative that you'd merely roll your eyes and cluck at my naivety.
I have faith in the Constitution and the functioning of our government. I do not thing that the government is infallible, nor do I think that the government is particularly adept at many activities; yet I believe that those that serve in the government are doing their level best to be good members of the polis - they wish to be good servants to the State.
As a 'Conservative', I believe that the Federal government should be a smaller, more efficient organization which concerns itself with national defense first, interstate commerce second, and settling squabbles between the various States third. The rest of the functions of government should be carried out by the individual States.
The problem with our government is largely one of adoption of Leftist policies - which have been expensive boondoggles and perpetuate the problems that they were intended to remedy. Welfare is a classic example. Public (government) schools are another.
Now, as to your question concerning my loyalty, I will always be loyal to my country because I love it. True, during the Clinton administration I differed with the policies of the government frequently - but this was in response to what I saw as egregious violations of law. When President Clinton finally agreed to intervene in Bosnia I cheered. When President Clinton burned that compound at Waco, had Randy Weaver's wife shot, and stuck a SMG in Elian Gonzalez' face I booed.
For me, the difference between the Clinton administration and the Bush administration is one of trust. President Clinton was long-winded but never said what he meant. President Bush is a middling orator, yet says exactly what he means. Like President Reagan before him, President Bush is trustworthy.
I wonder if you remember all the way back to 1998? In December of that year, President Clinton directed the military to begin strikes against Iraq in response to that country's unwillingness to cooperate with UN weapons inspectors. The President claimed that our bombing campaign (Operation Desert Fox) would continue until the Iraqis complied with the UN resolutions. Coincidentally, the same day that the bombing began a vote had been scheduled in the Congress to impeach President Clinton.
Oddly enough, the bombing campaign lasted three days. The Congress voted to impeach, the Iraqis did not comply, yet the bombing stopped. So what was the real goal of the bombing?
Systemfailure;
Lets go through this for the last time. If you insist on telling untruths about me, I will repost all the relevant quotes which clearly exonerate me and clearly condemn you.
You know that I NEVER said I was a special forces soldier. I said I held a secondary MOS of M1 tanker, and you misread it. You made the mistake, not me.
As for the Coast Guard, you need to check the record again. I said that I was assigned to TRAIN Coast Guardsmen during the Gulf War, not that I was IN the Coast Guard.
You should learn to read more carefully, and spend less time making unsubstantiated attacks.
Especially after having claimed that special operations soldiers poison water supplies.
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by Dr. Sigmund Fruit
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 5:52 PM
Yup. As he has made painfully clear by his last post, "Simple Simon" is STILL a simpleton. His parents must have had a premonition. Such naivete.
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by Simple Simon
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 5:58 PM
One wonders, Herr Doctor, If you have any views of your own or if you just make your constant diagnoses in a vain effort to be cute.
I haven't seen anything of any substance attributed to you, so I must assume the latter is the case.
And could you also be the nick-lifting adolescent?
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by Bush Admirer
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 6:02 PM
Simon, please do society a favor and get back into your straightjacket!
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by Simple Simon
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 6:03 PM
I guess I have my answer.
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by Bush Admirer
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 6:05 PM
Yes, your answer is that you are, always have been, and always will be a simpleton.
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by Ted
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 10:53 PM
It's refreshing to read a reasonable post on these forums. When all the regulars are limited to name calling and spreading misinformation, Simon knows he has won the day. Good job!
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by Ted
Saturday, Mar. 29, 2003 at 10:54 PM
I'm twelve years old today.
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