A Brilliant Sign !

Well Done !

These signs aren't brilliant. No reasonable person actually thinks Bush a Nazi. You're just alienating the many who support Bush but oppose the war. Why do you think your poll numbers are plummetting?

For those who do not remember the past
are doomed to repeat it.

Real americans exercise thier constitutional rights.

What polls do you believe?
the propaganda that comes from your T.v.?
Who owns the stations and why is it in thier best interest
to keep you afraid..................???

Bush's granddad helped build the NAZI war machine and supported Hitlers campaign.

Bush I helped build Sadam and the Iraqi Royal Guard.

meanwhile the CIA spent untold sums funneling old nazi's out of Germany after wwii and they were all accepted into america under Operations Paperclip and Mockingbird.

They even refer to their war as Blitzkrieg, dammit.

Get a freaking clue.

Bush's grandfather worked for Brown Brothers Harriman, which provided arms to both sides in the war. If he's a Nazi, then we're all terrorists for using Saudi Arabian oil. But even if he were, the idea of blaming Bush for the sins of his grandpa is absurd.

Granted, Bush I may not have shown much foresight in arming Saddam Hussein. But if anything, Bush II is casting off the yolk of his ilk by undoing the wrong his father helped to create. You can't have it both ways. Was Bush I wrong for arming Saddam or is Bush II wrong for disarming him?

Besides, if looking to fathers were fair, then Al Gore would be a segregationist.

In fact, Nazism was and is a very serious, very sad thing and to so flippantly label public figures Nazis just because you disagree with their politics marginalizes the millions who suffered under the true Nazi regime. On both sides, comparisons to Hitler and World War Two have become so prevalent and so frequent that the war's innumerable victims have become little more than hapless vehicles of your whimsical political agendas. So, please: spare us the Nazi talk.

You'll have to give me much, much more to convince me that Bush is capable of the same gravity of wrongs perpetrated by Hitler and Mussolini. That his general happens to call the rapid move into Iraq a "blitzkrieg," which has become a generic military term, is far from sufficient.

The fact is that you're throwing out the Nazi card in these protests for dramatic effect. If you truly believe, inside, that Bush is a Nazi--and I'm speaking literally here--then hoist your signs and be proud. But if that's the case, I can't help but shed a tear for the anti-war movement. Your views are so far out of the mainstream, so extreme that you are doing your like-minded lovers of peace a severe injustice. Speak out if you must, but know that you're denting the cause.

"The fact is that you're throwing out the Nazi card in these protests for dramatic effect."

First off, way to state 'facts'. You have clearly learned your ability to ascertain facts from the same people that taught our "intelligence" agencies to justify full scale invasions off, in part, a college students term paper.

Also, i believe you're missing or dodging the point. While yes this war is unjust and many innocent people are going to die from it, it is not the worst that could happen. Saddam is a bad guy, and something needed to happen anyways.

However, saddam being taken out of business is not what i myself am protesting, nor is it what i believe anyone forming the logical association between bush's cabinet and the nazi party is really upset about. The biggest problem with this war today is the precident it sets. The idea that it is 'ok' for america to invade a country with little or no 'proof' to justify as much, against the judgement of the UN, against the judgement of the world, and against the judgement of a huge portion of its populace. That is a dangerous precident and the parallels it shares with the onset of the nazi empire are so blatant that they are completely undeniable.

But the similiaritiies certainly don't begin or end there. Consider the Reichstag fire of 1933, and how it solidified the rabid nationalism / "patriotism" that hitler needed to browbeat the populace into believing or saying they believed that the communist threat was real, and so real in fact that they needed to deal with it pre-emptively. Sound familiar? Only today we have an even better enemy, "terrorists". They have no name, no face, they could be anywhere, and good luck ever proving that you're not one. Its an obvious setup.

You may wonder if by me saying that, am i implying that bush had some hand in play to make 9/11 come about. Yes, I do believe that was the case. Maybe not a direct hand in it but more and more that appears to be the case as well. Regardless, he certainly knew it was coming and he let it happen. People just don't get so lucky. And look at how he has responded, that alone is, to rational people, damning enough. He obviously had prior knowledge, this is becoming widely accepted as understood by the populace at large.

Hitler had very similiar tactics.

Hitler also had a team of young browbeaters / street thugs to help iron out any wrinkles in his plan, much like bush has enlisted the aid of the KKK to help strong arm people into agreeing with what he has to say. Can i prove that the KKK and bush are in bed together? No. Is it very, very obvious from attending any rally with both parties in attendence, or by carefully observing the way rabidly ignorant prowar people converse in these forums? Yes, clearly.

So bush also has some young thugs to help get his point across. The similarities just keep coming. And these are only the major, really important ones. Forget trivialities like the administration referring to our government and country as "The Homeland", or nazi-combat-glorification through referring to our battle tactics in nazi terms ("blitzkreig", etc). Forget that his grand father was a nazi sympathizer and that his father was a warmonger too.

All these things are trivial in comparison to the current unavoidable reality that he is invading a third world country half way around the world under very questionable pretenses. That is utterly undeniable.

Also, i suppose its easy to overlook that they have basically laid out their plans for world domination on their damn website, wwww.newamericancentury.org - read 'Rebuilding Americas Defenses' and tell me again how we're not trying to take over the world via military might. Go ahead, this should be good. Oh and while you're reading that, be sure to read page 63 of 90 (marked 51 at the bottom of the page). Search for the phrase 'pearl'. Consider that this was written in Sept of 2000. And then really, really consider if this man is acting with the best interests of our country in mind. He's an idiot and a lunatic and he needs to be stopped.

And you guys (the freepers, the kkk, whoever you all are) can stop calling us nazi's just because we're opposed to media manipulation. The idea of tossing the first stone as pre-emptive anti-marketting is long established and clearly evident and just damn's your cause. So, actually, go ahead, call us nazi's all you want. You're the ones 'blitzkrieging' as we wave signs around begging for peace.

wow

Bush Assmirer:

You are in denial NOW. LMAO

George Du(m)bya Bush...a BRAVE AMERICAN PATRIOT!?!?!?!

ROFPIMPLMAO!!!! You mean Little Georgie who was in the National Guard? And...then went AOL!?!?!?!

Susan Sarandon has more hazardous duty when she grocery shops in LA.

Get a clue.

Every American, is a true American regardless of their political feelings. A patriot stands up for free speech, what ever that may be, it is the American way. Just because you don't agree, certainly makes you no more American then those you disagree with. Maybe you need to pay attention to the constitution and it's history a little more...otherwise you sound "dumb as dirt"

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundral! --Samuel Johnson

Bush isn't a Nazi, he's just emulaitng the Nazis.
1. Gain power without winning the popular vote.
2. Take tragedy and use it to raise fears. (Twin Towers & German parliament bombings)
3. Use fear to promote patriotism. (War on terrorism, Bush-Islamic, Hitler-Jewish)
4. Use patiotism to drown out objections to your support. (See some of the comments above)
5.Use fear to create a new agency to root out terrorists using a suspension of certain civil liberties.(Homeland security, Homeland security)
6. Use your support to invade another country to root out terrorists and liberate the people by a "Shock and awe" or blitzkrieg attack. (Iraq & Austria)
7. Use the escape of terrorists as rationale for invading other countries. (Hitler-Poland & Czechoslovakia, Bush-Iran & Syria?)

Who says Bush isn't smart enough to learn from history? Looks to me that either he or his handlers have a keen grasp of history and it's up to us to continue to fight his plans.

How can the right be in Denial about everything? They are almost rabid calling people traitors they remind me of German citizens waving their swasticas at Nuremberg. The REAL Americans are the ones with the courage to face prosecution from pointing out the truth. They call everyone who doesn't agree with them and that tyrant George Bush anti-american, they don't deal in facts and logic, but in over emotional brainwashing and religous messanic tendencies. Prescott Bush(goerges Grandfather) helped build over 40 concentration camps (including auswitz) with his company Union Banking and if he didn't do anything wrong why were three of his companies assets siezed under the trading with the enemy act in 1942? I'm sorry but the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. He wants young people giving their lives when he is a draft dodger himself, why doesn't the right ever bring that up? And I'd like to thank the person before me with mathmatical logic summing up the truth like an equation, which is something an over-emotional right wing brainwashed indoctrinated zombie could never do. As a Native American who grew up at the north carolina reservation I know a white man with a forked tongue when I see one. After what happened to my people maybe I would like too see whitey's empire explode but you can't blame me for feeling that way and you can't blame the Palastinians for feeling that way when they have no land of their own and live in utter destitution. Maybe if people started treating each other better we wouldn't need wars and maybe if people started putting humanity before silly ideas like americanism we could move past being apes with pointed sticks. Logic and reason are gifts from the Great Spirit that sperate us from the other animals, my people recognized that, why can't whitey right?

Whenever we liberals have nothing intelligent to say or add to the conversation, which is 100% of the time, we always resort to making connect-the-unrelated-dots statements regarding Hitler and Bush.

Iraqi's are shaking off the chains of Saddam today. I'm sure that troubles you. This is not a good day for lovers of leftist slavery, is it?

Wow right-winged people are also mean and overly self-righteous as well. I guess that would explain their history. Yes I guess being right is more important than being a good human being. IM THE BIGGEST BULLY IN THE SCHOOLYARD AND PROUD OF IT. Well if you consider beating up poor third world countries for thier lunch money is cool, your wrong. Oh and by the way the Iraqis are happy to be rid of Saddam as they should but they have stressed over and over that they do not want an American occupation of their country. So far the biggest thing the U.S. has done in Afghanistan is rebuild the oil pipeline and then funnel afghan oil for American use (it's well documented) If America can leave the Iraqi's alone and not create more dictators like Saddam whom they installed in power in the eighties with the help of George I, then we won't have problems. Perhaps the lesson should be don't arm and put into power dictators you may have to take out later because you were an idiot. Of course once again these are facts and illogical right wing imbeciles don't deal in facts they deal in ignorance. If your americanism is more important than your humanity, than your God, than your family or even this beutiful planet created for us, by all means continue to act like a mental retard.

Oh and by the way there is a definite connection between Goerge Bush and the former Nazi empire, it's been documnted everywhere from the encyclopedia brittanica to the New York Tribune and I haven't known those sources to create conspiracy theory. If you are going to consistently ignore the facts to cling to your own idealogical fantasy of American perfection you can't be helped. If however being a good person is more important to you than being right maybe one day you'll wake up and see the world for what it really is. Human beings are not perfect, so how can this country be perfect? We had a beautiful document known as the constitution which was partly modeled after Native American Consul systems, we also have a pledge of Allegiance which was written by a well know left leaning socialist known as Francis Bellamy who even though he went to religous school did not put the words "under God" in the poem because he believed each person's spiritual path was a personal one and should not be forced down people's throats by the state. Feel free to research all of this since you think it is so unrelated. As Albert Einstein once said "It's all relative" Oh and by the way I used my real name, do you have the honor and courage to use yours white man?

Whenever we liberals have nothing intelligent to say or add to the conversation, which is 100% of the time, we always resort to repeating the same lie over and over again hoping to make it true. Also, it’s important when adding comments on any subject here at LA-IMC that we get in “The Last Word”, because in our fragile, egg-shell, childlike minds, we actually believe that arriving at truth has nothing to do with engaging in intelligent debate, but rather ensuring that at the end of every conversation we are the last to post. Posting “The Last Word”, while having no foundation in reality (Why should we change now?), makes us feel really warm and fuzzy inside, like we actually won.

I've read so many of these "Bush Knew" and "Bush is Hitler" websites they started to repeat themselves. My personal study caused me to reach the conclusion that these sites and their "evidence" was unreliable and false. Are you able to accept the fact that I viewed the same evidence as you yet came away with a different conclusion and leave it at that? If you are able to do that, if you are able to allow me and others the liberty to reach our own conclusions without feeling the need to belittle those conclusions, then you can do things that Sheepdog and Diogenes are unable to even fathom.

Doesn't change-
"I've read so many of these "Bush Knew" and "Bush is Hitler" websites they started to
repeat themselves."
Unlike a lie, which changes as the challanges to it
cause it to melt away.

The question is for Sandra, not you. I already know where you stand. I've read these the links posted on indymedia, the main ones I've read were the links provided by nessie over at sf-imc. Many of them do contain the same information, and if you've actually read them, you know that. You can't imagine that anyone could read the same material you have and have reached a different conclusion. That's your problem, not mine.

Sandra, I'd like to still hear from you on this.

Thank you for your good etiquette, it is a rare commodity these days, perhaps not every webiste has a %100 truth I will grant you that. It is hard to know the absolute veracity of things you were not present to witness but that also brings into question the idea of reality and perception themselves. There is definitive documentation of Prescott Bush's misdeeds on the public record and that he had in total four companies siezed , I got this information from a book ,(Chaitkin and Tarpley, George Bush: the Unauthorized Biography)not from a website not to say that that is much better but I digress. The name of the four companies were the Holland-American Trading Corporation, the Seamless Steel Equipment Association as well as the Silesian-American Corporation, and the Union Banking Corporation for financing the building of over 40 concentration camps including auswitz. I'm not repeating it to make it true, but I do feel in my gut and heart that it is relevant and here is why,Prescott’s son George Bush followed suit by being the first to sell the Japanese the gasoline that was used on the attack on Pearl Harbor
(Yeadon, Glen “From the Street of Little Beirut”)
George the first has finished his father’s work and retained many of the family’s connections with Nazi associations, the same associations that have benefited George junior. Could it be that naming a “department of homeland of security” after the S.S.’s famous reference of being the “department of Home Nation Police” is just a coincidence? There is also the Reichstag fire in Germany in which Hitler allowed a few famous German Buildings to be torched by a feeble minded simpleton who he aided and abetted beforehand and then later used the fires as an excuse to “tighten security” and “suspend the German constitution”. This is just as Bush is using 9-11 as an excuse to pass the Patriot act and suspend our constitutional rights. In the same vein he is blocking out any meaningful debate on the mainstream media such as Fascist A.M radio where Clear Channel, which has tight republican connections, owns most the radio stations. Do I think I am %100 right? No of course not that would make me an idiot, but to say an entire body of evidence, even if it is circumstantial, is irrelvant is insane. Why make a big deal about white water and President Clinton getting a B.J. but ignore possible Nazi connections to the Bush family? Unless it is to squelch the truth in favor of your own political agenda?
I think the American people need to be made aware of these allegations and decide for themselves what they think one individual at a time. If you want rleiable non-internet sources to the Nazi-Bush hypothesis then obtain the Annual report of Hamburg-Amerika or in the archives of the New york Times on how Bush wants to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 so he can use troops against American Citizens, similar again to the motives of Hitler. There is also government records of his grandfather's assets being siezed under the trading with the Enemy Act in the encyclopedia Britannica. In our present experience of reality it is a fact, now to whether or not the internet does not embellish on those facts or plays them up is a fact of partisian debate. I'm sorry there is more than one point of view in the world and if that offends my predecessors narcissism. Once again thank you for your time, I hope to learn more myself and explore as much information and debate on the subject as I can.

Sincerely and with honor,
Mrs. Sandra Lee Monday

Life is precious to us all on this journey
Inside all of us a love that gives exists
Brevity of life demands we find our inner peace
Everyone must do their part for their fellowman
Remember those who have gone on before
Always caring for others before self
Love that had no beginning and no end
Sharing truth with those around us
Always pressing onward towards tomorrow
Reflecting on the peace we strive onward
Ever inching closer to our goal
Simply wanting a better world for our children
Others may jeer and jest at our motives
Saying things to tear and break us down
Truth cannot be quiet
Upon the mountains and in the valleys we shout
Peace to all and love for all mankind
Inside us all is love’s abounding message
Deliver us all to hope and peace and love.

"Logic and reason are gifts from the Great Spirit that sperate us from the other animals, my people recognized that, why can't whitey right?"

With all due respect Sandy, you're people couldn't even fiqure out the wheel. Probably beacause you were all so busy slaughtering each other. And then you built an entire culture of victimization on the notion that "whitey" is evil because we had the audacity to go west before waitng a few hundred years for you savages to evolve. So, save your breath for breathin'. I think it's great that you've developed such a rich and noble culture to the point where you can offer the world...gambling, but give the "noble redman and the Great Spirit" crap a rest.

Go Cleveland

>I'm sorry there is more than one point of view in the world and if that offends my predecessors narcissism.

It does more than offends them. They can't handle it. Very self-centered and arrogant they are. You nailed it.

I disagree with you completely in your conclusions, but that you can admit that individuals can examine the same "evidence" and reach completely different conclusions at least speaks of your character.

As far as your desire for people to be able to examine these matters on their own, the information is out there should they so desire. Because you or I might regard a particualr subject as being so important that it should be made highly visible for people to view does not mean it really is that important. You found the info, I found the info, so for those who are interested in examining these things it is out there to be found. If they've never heard of it, or they aren't interested, or they find it to be a bunch of nothing is not something which should be a concern. The choice is up to the individual. Right now, very, very, very few of the total population are believing it.

By your comments I can see I have gotten to you, no my culture is not perfect, but neither is yours and so we stand equal human beings in an insane world.
Let me offer you this kind sir as an olive brance between our peoples, if our species is too survive we must evolve. That is not hippie or savage sentiment that is a fact of biological survival. In order to do this we must develop our minds, "No one can hurt you more that your own thoughts ungaurded, but once mastered noone can help you more not even your mother or your father so in the midst of chaos make a castle of your mind and break yourself free, become one of the masters, learn to see the false for the false the true for the true" Buddha. I think all religions have something to offer don't you? The problem with fundamentalism and always having to be right is it leads to a proclivity for greed,righteousness, and violence thus the similarities of the radical islamists and the American right faction. Just too much alike to get along, want to control womens bodies, think they own God, think they own the world, think only thier way is the RIGHT way. Silly white man when will you learn?
America would not even be half what it is without the contributions from us "savages" you could not even grow your own corn or get through bad winters without our help. Are we perfect of course not, that would mean we are finished becoming and God's work was done it is not done, for as your bible says "the meek shall inherit the earth"... are you meek white brother?

Mrs. Sandra Lee Monday (Day of the Moon)

Thanks for being so reasonable even though you may not agree with me. That is all I was asking for. Debate need not be hostile for a fine example I recommend Plato's republic on the artform of debate. Personally it is one of my favorite pasttimes but I don't like people to take it so personnal even though I myself am occasionally guilty of getting angry or getting my feelings hurt. But just because we use machines to communicate does not mean that we ARE machines. I must go work on my tomatoe plants and read to my child now talk to you later

Thanks for fine discussion and thought

Sandra Monday (moon-day)

Bush may not be a Nazi, but his Grandfather was a supporter, and was convicted for trading with the enemy.

from testpattern.org:

According to former U.S. Justice Department Nazi War Crimes Prosecutor John Loftus - who is today the director of the Florida Holocaust Museum - "The Bush family fortune came from the Third Reich," according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. Along with the Rockefellers, the DuPonts, General Motors and Henry Ford, banks and shipping companies operated by the Bush family were crucial players in setting up the industrial power behind the Third Reich. These companies poured hundreds of millions of dollars into IG Farben and provided it with technology for tactically essential synthetic materials - while withholding the same materials and patents from the U.S. government.

According to the Encyclopedia Brittanica, IG Farben built and operated more than 40 concentration camps in Nazi-occupied Europe, including Auschwitz. At their slave labor/factory/death camps, chemicals, weapons, drugs, synthetic fuels and other materials vital to the Nazi war effort were manufactured.

That the Bush wealth and prominence in American politics is derived from Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker's support of Hitler is a historical fact. To offset their reputation as WWII traitors, former President Bush joined the US Air Force after the US Congress seized his father's banking assets in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

More Here:http://www.citypaper.net/articles/011801/sl.slant.shtml

Thats actually become accepted as pretty common knowledge. Thanks though for doing your part to spread the word. My suggestion to you would be to spread that word to those who don't have the benefit of the technical prowess it would take to discover the truth for themselves on the interent. In other words, go talk to the sheeple. Explain this to them, why its relevant to them, how it could destroy us all and take down huge portions of the general populace of the world at the same time.

Did you know bush's granddaddy had ties to the same people that pardoned the nazi's? Haha go figure eh

Part of the reason I go to forums is to guage the level of feeling on a given topic before I write about it in my weekly column. I write for a Paper that is in actual paper form all over UCF and Orlando for free. It's called The Independent Journal. What I am hoping is that when people read the column it will prompt them to do research of their own to verify the veracity of the statements made. I personally agree with much of the data I have accumulated but I would like people to read the theories, facts and opinions and decide what they believe for themsleves. If this was made as public on the mainstream media as the Clinton intern scandal with a special on 60 minutes it would disable much of the public's confidence in the Bush administration. That's my hypothesis to the experiment anyway, the Republicans cannot effect a complete media blackout forever for I still maintain that we are in a free society and while the truth may stay hidden for a little while, it all comes out, just like the Tuskagee Syphyllis experiment, just like the Radiation experiments conducted on Women with breast cancer, all these things our Government did in the guise of protecting the public health. So the previous writer was correct it is OUR job to spread the word as best as we can, that is the truly American thing to do.

Sincerely,
Mrs. Sandra L. Monday

Have a sense of humor for God's sake! Enjoy a photo

>Thats actually become accepted as pretty common knowledge.

No, it's not. Pretenting that people actually believe that Bush is wanting to take over the world does not further your cause. There's an extremely small amount of people who have even heard of this, much less believe it.

>If this was made as public on the mainstream media as the Clinton intern scandal with a special on 60 minutes it would disable much of the public's confidence in the Bush administration.

60 minutes, even as liberal as they are, view themselves as having a reputation. These "conncections" which I am confident you place relevance in and actually believe, are a series of connect-the-unrelated-dots. No news organization who wants to maintain even the most tinest of threads of relevancy with a general public are going to air these "Bush is a Nazi" theories and present them as though they have any merit. It would mean certain death of their viewership. The American public are not "sheeple" as some would like to believe they are and I'm convinced they would like them to be. If they were, it would be easy to convince them of such things as "Bush Knew" and "Bush is a Nazi". A program aired and presenting these unrelated events would be laughed to scorn by the public.

Most people around the world view bush as a colonial monster, it is only a relatively small percentage of sheeplike Americans who view bush as some religious incarnation of a saviour.

Bush and Hitler both share more than mere ideology, they both contain(ed) a deep seated insecurity, bush probably stemming from his silver spoon heritage and his willingness to place all sense of accountability into a mythomania having it's roots in fundamental christiianity.This insecurity translates into a pattern of leadership based on innuendo, false premises, fear, and an abrupt retreat from human reason, much like Hitlers European order.

O.k. I knew there would be the point where they would say what has this to do with little poor innoscent Georgie junior? Well it could very little or it could be alot depending on how you look at it. He would not have been where he is financially or even in a position to make a bid for the presidency much less buy it with cyber Jim Crow and the help of Katherine Harris or data base technologies, without all those gold teeth from the mouth of dead Jews his grandaddy helped build concentration camps for. The fact is he got where he is because he came from a family of scoundrels, what has he done too make his malignant lineage proud you might say? Try destroying the United states contitiution taking away citizens right to Habeus Corpos, suspending the posse comitatus act. What do the Nazi's have to do with curious George ? Once again why name " a department of homeland security" after Hitlers "Home nation police" both designed to be Gestapos in their own way? Perhaps Germany compared Bush to Hitler because they know one when they see it, been there done that, bought the T-shirt. Yes George Bush became a master propaganda artist and one can tell that he took extra time studying his Mein Kampf, which got him his best C at Yale ever.

“All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our public, and too much caution cannot be extended in this direction.”

Meaning he thinks you're all as stupid as he is and the sad thing is he's probably correct, just look at what the public schools are turning out. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH INDEED! As for the Iraqi people shaking off the chains of Saddam do you think they would be so happy with the U.S. if they knew they wouldn't ever have had to deal with Saddam, if the U.S. HADN"T PUT HIM IN POWER IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN GEORGE BUSH WAS CIA DIRECTOR IN THE 80's ! I don't mean to lose my temper but some of you damn idiots can't see the forest for the trees, half of you probably can't put two and two together. The thing that makes me so mad is your so brainwashed that you can't think for yourselves. I used to believe in the intellect and beauty of mankind and I want so much to believe that God has set us all here for a purpose and I want to be a good person and all but dammitt I am no mother teresa, ghandi, jesus Christ or even sitting bull I'm starting to wonder if the total destruction of the human species may not be a good thing! AAAGHHH your like a bunch of children who refuse to do yuor homework and yes I've dealt with those myself! You DON"TCARE?! are you SEROIUS! Think about it his Grandaddy finances and ARMS HITLER then trys to disavow any connection when he is taken out JUST LIKE GOERGE I AND GEORGEII WITH SADDAM! 2+2=4 not 5 study your damn arithmetic! Get a Clue!
Get out of that tangential plane your daydreaming on and come back to earth. Listen I will compile a list of sources for you and for my readership and I want you to write me a paragraph summarizing what it is trying to say. Develop the reading comprehension you never developed in the third grade then get back to me.

Sincerely,

Mrs. Sandra L Monday
mother, teacher, writer and slightly enraged at the idiocy of humanity

>Bush and Hitler both share more than mere ideology,

They share nothing of the sort.

You've heard of the phrase "You're comparing apples with oranges." Well, there are some thing that apples and oranges have in common. But that doesn't take anything away from the meaning of the phrase.

Fine post with reason.
It's wasted on the weasels who are here to do
desperate damage control/newspin.
I, for one appreciate your attempts to inform the
paid campers, knuckle draggers, morons and spastic
momas boys. Don't hope for much, they are the enemy.

>Fine post with reason.

Call black white if you wish, but I see no organized effective method being implemented by those who believe these things. If you really had something, you'd have brochures printed up and you'd being going around neighborhoods knocking on doors and handing them out, and/or you'd be buying ads on radio and TV telling people where they could call or write to receive information or a web site to log on. And you'd be doing these things on a consistent basis. But you don't. All you got is whatever anyone brings to a protest to hand-out or sell and spending your time here on Indymeida trying in vain to defend your "turf".

And there's an element of this "Bush is Hitler" crowd that just downright hates Jews. At the protests I've attended to snap photos and ask questions, anti-semitism has been rampant at these protest. I've heard the phrase "fucking Jews" uttered by at least ten different individuals. I've also heard a number of people discussing how the Israelis had infiltrated our government to commit genocide against the Palestinians. Mind you, these sentiments from the left were always there boiling under the surface. I wasn't necessarily surprised to hear it from a bunch of left-wing anti-war folks, I was just surprised at how open they were with it. I suppose since A.N.S.W.E.R. was outed as a communist front, these people feel much more embolden to speak out how they really feel.

I've posted a blog for you to check out. The first link is the main page, but check out the second, also. A rather interesting note at the end of the photos the blogger took at the 2/16/03 march in SF:

(Below the photo, he writes)

I'll close with this picture because, for me, it puts the whole day into perspective. Here we see a vendor selling t-shirts and signs proclaiming George W. Bush a terrorist. Sitting right next to it is a t-shirt bearing the faces of Karl Marx, V.I. Lenin, and Mao Zedong, three men who are collectively responsible for tens of millions of deaths in the 20th century. These are the values of the modern anti-war left. We would be well-advised not to forget that.

http://www.right-thinking.com/

http://www.right-thinking.com/comments.php?id=P508_0_1_0_C

looks more like a capitalist entrepeneur to me....why do you have a problem with that?
i wonder, do the ones getting brainwashed know they are getting brainwashed. read this

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When Democracy Failed: The Warnings of History
by Thom Hartmann

The 70th anniversary wasn't noticed in the United States, and was barely reported in the corporate media. But the Germans remembered well that fateful day seventy years ago - February 27, 1933. They commemorated the anniversary by joining in demonstrations for peace that mobilized citizens all across the world.

It started when the government, in the midst of a worldwide economic crisis, received reports of an imminent terrorist attack. A foreign ideologue had launched feeble attacks on a few famous buildings, but the media largely ignored his relatively small efforts. The intelligence services knew, however, that the odds were he would eventually succeed. (Historians are still arguing whether or not rogue elements in the intelligence service helped the terrorist; the most recent research implies they did not.)

But the warnings of investigators were ignored at the highest levels, in part because the government was distracted; the man who claimed to be the nation's leader had not been elected by a majority vote and the majority of citizens claimed he had no right to the powers he coveted. He was a simpleton, some said, a cartoon character of a man who saw things in black-and-white terms and didn't have the intellect to understand the subtleties of running a nation in a complex and internationalist world. His coarse use of language - reflecting his political roots in a southernmost state - and his simplistic and often-inflammatory nationalistic rhetoric offended the aristocrats, foreign leaders, and the well-educated elite in the government and media. And, as a young man, he'd joined a secret society with an occult-sounding name and bizarre initiation rituals that involved skulls and human bones.

Nonetheless, he knew the terrorist was going to strike (although he didn't know where or when), and he had already considered his response. When an aide brought him word that the nation's most prestigious building was ablaze, he verified it was the terrorist who had struck and then rushed to the scene and called a press conference.

"You are now witnessing the beginning of a great epoch in history," he proclaimed, standing in front of the burned-out building, surrounded by national media. "This fire," he said, his voice trembling with emotion, "is the beginning." He used the occasion - "a sign from God," he called it - to declare an all-out war on terrorism and its ideological sponsors, a people, he said, who traced their origins to the Middle East and found motivation for their evil deeds in their religion.

Two weeks later, the first detention center for terrorists was built in Oranianberg to hold the first suspected allies of the infamous terrorist. In a national outburst of patriotism, the leader's flag was everywhere, even printed large in newspapers suitable for window display.

Within four weeks of the terrorist attack, the nation's now-popular leader had pushed through legislation - in the name of combating terrorism and fighting the philosophy he said spawned it - that suspended constitutional guarantees of free speech, privacy, and habeas corpus. Police could now intercept mail and wiretap phones; suspected terrorists could be imprisoned without specific charges and without access to their lawyers; police could sneak into people's homes without warrants if the cases involved terrorism.

To get his patriotic "Decree on the Protection of People and State" passed over the objections of concerned legislators and civil libertarians, he agreed to put a 4-year sunset provision on it: if the national emergency provoked by the terrorist attack was over by then, the freedoms and rights would be returned to the people, and the police agencies would be re-restrained. Legislators would later say they hadn't had time to read the bill before voting on it.

Immediately after passage of the anti-terrorism act, his federal police agencies stepped up their program of arresting suspicious persons and holding them without access to lawyers or courts. In the first year only a few hundred were interred, and those who objected were largely ignored by the mainstream press, which was afraid to offend and thus lose access to a leader with such high popularity ratings. Citizens who protested the leader in public - and there were many - quickly found themselves confronting the newly empowered police's batons, gas, and jail cells, or fenced off in protest zones safely out of earshot of the leader's public speeches. (In the meantime, he was taking almost daily lessons in public speaking, learning to control his tonality, gestures, and facial expressions. He became a very competent orator.)

Within the first months after that terrorist attack, at the suggestion of a political advisor, he brought a formerly obscure word into common usage. He wanted to stir a "racial pride" among his countrymen, so, instead of referring to the nation by its name, he began to refer to it as "The Homeland," a phrase publicly promoted in the introduction to a 1934 speech recorded in Leni Riefenstahl's famous propaganda movie "Triumph Of The Will." As hoped, people's hearts swelled with pride, and the beginning of an us-versus-them mentality was sewn. Our land was "the" homeland, citizens thought: all others were simply foreign lands. We are the "true people," he suggested, the only ones worthy of our nation's concern; if bombs fall on others, or human rights are violated in other nations and it makes our lives better, it's of little concern to us.

Playing on this new nationalism, and exploiting a disagreement with the French over his increasing militarism, he argued that any international body that didn't act first and foremost in the best interest of his own nation was neither relevant nor useful. He thus withdrew his country from the League Of Nations in October, 1933, and then negotiated a separate naval armaments agreement with Anthony Eden of The United Kingdom to create a worldwide military ruling elite.

His propaganda minister orchestrated a campaign to ensure the people that he was a deeply religious man and that his motivations were rooted in Christianity. He even proclaimed the need for a revival of the Christian faith across his nation, what he called a "New Christianity." Every man in his rapidly growing army wore a belt buckle that declared "Gott Mit Uns" - God Is With Us - and most of them fervently believed it was true.

Within a year of the terrorist attack, the nation's leader determined that the various local police and federal agencies around the nation were lacking the clear communication and overall coordinated administration necessary to deal with the terrorist threat facing the nation, particularly those citizens who were of Middle Eastern ancestry and thus probably terrorist and communist sympathizers, and various troublesome "intellectuals" and "liberals." He proposed a single new national agency to protect the security of the homeland, consolidating the actions of dozens of previously independent police, border, and investigative agencies under a single leader.

He appointed one of his most trusted associates to be leader of this new agency, the Central Security Office for the homeland, and gave it a role in the government equal to the other major departments.

His assistant who dealt with the press noted that, since the terrorist attack, "Radio and press are at out disposal." Those voices questioning the legitimacy of their nation's leader, or raising questions about his checkered past, had by now faded from the public's recollection as his central security office began advertising a program encouraging people to phone in tips about suspicious neighbors. This program was so successful that the names of some of the people "denounced" were soon being broadcast on radio stations. Those denounced often included opposition politicians and celebrities who dared speak out - a favorite target of his regime and the media he now controlled through intimidation and ownership by corporate allies.

To consolidate his power, he concluded that government alone wasn't enough. He reached out to industry and forged an alliance, bringing former executives of the nation's largest corporations into high government positions. A flood of government money poured into corporate coffers to fight the war against the Middle Eastern ancestry terrorists lurking within the homeland, and to prepare for wars overseas. He encouraged large corporations friendly to him to acquire media outlets and other industrial concerns across the nation, particularly those previously owned by suspicious people of Middle Eastern ancestry. He built powerful alliances with industry; one corporate ally got the lucrative contract worth millions to build the first large-scale detention center for enemies of the state. Soon more would follow. Industry flourished.

But after an interval of peace following the terrorist attack, voices of dissent again arose within and without the government. Students had started an active program opposing him (later known as the White Rose Society), and leaders of nearby nations were speaking out against his bellicose rhetoric. He needed a diversion, something to direct people away from the corporate cronyism being exposed in his own government, questions of his possibly illegitimate rise to power, and the oft-voiced concerns of civil libertarians about the people being held in detention without due process or access to attorneys or family.

With his number two man - a master at manipulating the media - he began a campaign to convince the people of the nation that a small, limited war was necessary. Another nation was harboring many of the suspicious Middle Eastern people, and even though its connection with the terrorist who had set afire the nation's most important building was tenuous at best, it held resources their nation badly needed if they were to have room to live and maintain their prosperity. He called a press conference and publicly delivered an ultimatum to the leader of the other nation, provoking an international uproar. He claimed the right to strike preemptively in self-defense, and nations across Europe - at first - denounced him for it, pointing out that it was a doctrine only claimed in the past by nations seeking worldwide empire, like Caesar's Rome or Alexander's Greece.

It took a few months, and intense international debate and lobbying with European nations, but, after he personally met with the leader of the United Kingdom, finally a deal was struck. After the military action began, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain told the nervous British people that giving in to this leader's new first-strike doctrine would bring "peace for our time." Thus Hitler annexed Austria in a lightning move, riding a wave of popular support as leaders so often do in times of war. The Austrian government was unseated and replaced by a new leadership friendly to Germany, and German corporations began to take over Austrian resources.

In a speech responding to critics of the invasion, Hitler said, "Certain foreign newspapers have said that we fell on Austria with brutal methods. I can only say; even in death they cannot stop lying. I have in the course of my political struggle won much love from my people, but when I crossed the former frontier [into Austria] there met me such a stream of love as I have never experienced. Not as tyrants have we come, but as liberators."

To deal with those who dissented from his policies, at the advice of his politically savvy advisors, he and his handmaidens in the press began a campaign to equate him and his policies with patriotism and the nation itself. National unity was essential, they said, to ensure that the terrorists or their sponsors didn't think they'd succeeded in splitting the nation or weakening its will. In times of war, they said, there could be only "one people, one nation, and one commander-in-chief" ("Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer"), and so his advocates in the media began a nationwide campaign charging that critics of his policies were attacking the nation itself. Those questioning him were labeled "anti-German" or "not good Germans," and it was suggested they were aiding the enemies of the state by failing in the patriotic necessity of supporting the nation's valiant men in uniform. It was one of his most effective ways to stifle dissent and pit wage-earning people (from whom most of the army came) against the "intellectuals and liberals" who were critical of his policies.

Nonetheless, once the "small war" annexation of Austria was successfully and quickly completed, and peace returned, voices of opposition were again raised in the Homeland. The almost-daily release of news bulletins about the dangers of terrorist communist cells wasn't enough to rouse the populace and totally suppress dissent. A full-out war was necessary to divert public attention from the growing rumbles within the country about disappearing dissidents; violence against liberals, Jews, and union leaders; and the epidemic of crony capitalism that was producing empires of wealth in the corporate sector but threatening the middle class's way of life.

A year later, to the week, Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia; the nation was now fully at war, and all internal dissent was suppressed in the name of national security. It was the end of Germany's first experiment with democracy.

As we conclude this review of history, there are a few milestones worth remembering.

February 27, 2003, was the 70th anniversary of Dutch terrorist Marinus van der Lubbe's successful firebombing of the German Parliament (Reichstag) building, the terrorist act that catapulted Hitler to legitimacy and reshaped the German constitution. By the time of his successful and brief action to seize Austria, in which almost no German blood was shed, Hitler was the most beloved and popular leader in the history of his nation. Hailed around the world, he was later Time magazine's "Man Of The Year."

Most Americans remember his office for the security of the homeland, known as the Reichssicherheitshauptamt and its SchutzStaffel, simply by its most famous agency's initials: the SS.

We also remember that the Germans developed a new form of highly violent warfare they named "lightning war" or blitzkrieg, which, while generating devastating civilian losses, also produced a highly desirable "shock and awe" among the nation's leadership according to the authors of the 1996 book "Shock And Awe" published by the National Defense University Press.

Reflecting on that time, The American Heritage Dictionary (Houghton Mifflin Company, 1983) left us this definition of the form of government the German democracy had become through Hitler's close alliance with the largest German corporations and his policy of using war as a tool to keep power: "fas-cism (fbsh'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

Today, as we face financial and political crises, it's useful to remember that the ravages of the Great Depression hit Germany and the United States alike. Through the 1930s, however, Hitler and Roosevelt chose very different courses to bring their nations back to power and prosperity.

Germany's response was to use government to empower corporations and reward the society's richest individuals, privatize much of the commons, stifle dissent, strip people of constitutional rights, and create an illusion of prosperity through continual and ever-expanding war. America passed minimum wage laws to raise the middle class, enforced anti-trust laws to diminish the power of corporations, increased taxes on corporations and the wealthiest individuals, created Social Security, and became the employer of last resort through programs to build national infrastructure, promote the arts, and replant forests.

To the extent that our Constitution is still intact, the choice is again ours.

Thom Hartmann lived and worked in Germany during the 1980s, and is the author of over a dozen books, including "Unequal Protection" and "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight." This article is copyright by Thom Hartmann, but permission is granted for reprint in print, email, blog, or web media so long as this credit is attached.

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if you have a problem with facts as you conservatives often do, let me tell you what your response will be...using the second letter of each word O.A.O.O.R U O I. (i'll post the response later so you can see just how predictable you are!

Great link. Thanx, Joe.

http://www.right-thinking.com/

Anyone who cannot see the simialrity between Hitler, or any megalomanic leader who is a killer, and bush, or any megalomaniac who is a killer, is either a fool or a syncophant. So the real question is which one are you?

Go to www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
not only it is a musical movie complete with info on the Nazi/Bush theory but it is funny as hell, even though this subject gets me uptight I was (literally) falling out of my chair laughing it was so hilarious!!! and there's no better way to me to combat ignorance than with ingenious political satire. It is along the lines of Mad Magazine and the Daily Show style and uses music from a Clockwork orange as well as that song "When the Furor says we are the master race!" If you want to have a good laugh at the farce we have now posing as democracy you have to check it out!

Sincerely,

Mrs. Sandra L Monday

Hey to the guy who talks about black and white/ and anyone who talks about things being in terms of black and white watch out! Closed mind ahead DEAD END!
There were wealthy Jews who supported Hitler so it makes perfect sense that you would support Bush!
And anyone who goes to a website called "right thinking" is obviously a Fascist himself! Go screw yourself asshole!

Oh and funny website Sandra Loved it, you are a doll!

The Bush's are my family friends who have helped me greatly and I wish you would leave them alone ever since I retired in South America, I weep a tear to see Junior following in my footsteps. He is like the grandson I never had andears such a striking resemblance to me. Also he tries to help keep those people of color in order and out of the public arena with aids, crack and getting rid of affirmative action and criminalizing their population, after all we are the master race and we the ANGLO SAXONS are IN CONTROL so get used to it.

Anyone who sees a similarity between Hitler, or any megalomanic leader who is a killer, and Bush, or any megalomaniac who is a killer, is either a fool or a sycophant. So the real question is which one are you?

BTW, what the hell is a "syncophant"?

I believe they meant 'sycophant' which basically translates to high-ranking ass-kisser, aka "shill".

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sycophant&r=2

"Hey to the guy who talks about black and white/ and anyone who talks about things being in terms of black and white watch out! Closed mind ahead DEAD END!"

That's right. The world is 10,000 shades of gray. At least it is to people with no backbone who never actually let the other foot hit the floor and take a stand.

"And anyone who goes to a website called "right thinking" is obviously a Fascist himself!"

Liberals are fascist. Given the opportunity, liberals would have everyone in the world subserviant to the rule of Big Government, and anyone who did not comply would be sent to concentration camps. We're just not going to let that happen.

WTF dude.

"Liberals are fascist." <- you must be kidding. Or is that like, 'war is peace', etc etc.


"Given the opportunity, liberals would have everyone in the world subserviant to the rule of Big Government" <- again, you must be joking. I know of not one "liberal" (translation, people opposed to bush) who is not for the immediate and drastic reduction in size and utility of our federal government. In fact every single person I have ever spoken with on any side of the arguement feels the federal government has gotten way out of hand and that more power needs ot be placed back in the hands of the states.

"and anyone who did not comply would be sent to concentration camps" <- put the crack pipe down freakoid. Who's been building the 'detention centers'? Who passed legislation to allow our federal 'police' the power to disappear anyone at any time for little or no verifiable reason? Liberals? Bush? Bush? BUSH?

"We're just not going to let that happen" <-- You're helping it happen dumbass! You're making it happen right now by supporting this shit. The people who told you that liberals are nazi's are just trying to preemptively throw the first stone because they know that they are far, FAR more valid recipients of that accusation.

Wake the fuck up dumbass.

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I believe they meant 'sycophant' which basically translates to high-ranking ass-kisser, aka "shill".
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sycophant&r=2<

If either of you bothered to read, you would have noticed that my in my reply to Parmenides, that I had already changed the spelling to the correct way.

So, I got someone calling people "ass kisser" who can't spell or think. And others who type before reading. Typical leftists.

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Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Lenin. I've seen what you liberals are capable of doing.

There is not doubt that if you or someone who holds the beliefs you do were able to "run the show", that it would be at the point of a gun and with gas ready to flow and ovens ready to burn. I'm going to do all I can to see it doesn't happen again. I will not live under the fascist/communist/socialist/imperialistic boots of liberalism.

You are clearly out of your mind.

You're against fascism? Imperialism?

What is fascism, the complete merger of government and business? Gee, fox is looking pretty damn fascist eh? Or haliburton? Or any number of big business 'special interest groups' the republicans are so quick to bow to.

And with regards to imperialism, again, you must be kidding. "Support Our Troops - Bring them home", thats imperial? Huh. Good thing bush isn't imperialistic, or he'd be conducting preemptive invasions of far away lands for... ? fun? profit? mercy? honor? why?

Oil. Oil and power. We're trying to take over the middle east and you damn well know it. And if thats not imperialistic, what is?

And with regards to socialism, I can't honestly say i know a whole lot about that. However, look at how well canada's experiments with socialist medicine have worked out? You don't have to be upper-crust to get medical care up there... how wonderful would that be down here eh? Only the rich deserve to be healthy, is that what you're suggesting?

You are out of touch with reality. Take a long hard look at what is going on around you and reconsider who the enemy is because it sure as hell isn't us.

"However, look at how well canada's experiments with socialist medicine have worked out?

My friend and his wife who are Canadian and live in Toronto were injured in an auto accident, she seriously. As she was bleeding and in need of immediate care, the ambulance went to 6 different hospitals before they found one who would admit her. The reason? Individual Canadian hospitals at the time were only allowed to admit a certain number of emergency patients per day, and the others had all met their "quota". Canadian healthcare? No, thank you.

"Take a long hard look at what is going on around you and reconsider who the enemy is because it sure as hell isn't us."

Had modern-day liberals been in the audience when Pilate asked "What shall I do with this man?", they would have yelled "Crucify! Crucify!"

Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Lenin. I've seen what you liberals are capable of doing.

And you'll just have to stay pissed in Ohio.

Oh Joy I haven't seen this kind of indoctrination since my own reign! Notice how none of the (niggers) are pro-Bush except for the occasional obediant house boy like Colin Powell, he's a good nigger who knows when to keep his mouth! If only we had more like him then we wouldn't have to keep putting darkies in Jail, thank you my loyal white supporters for being behind my man Bush, I feel all my work on Mein Kamp was not in VEIN. THE WHITE RACE RULES THE WORLD
POWER TO THE WHITE RICH! And thank you Jew Bastard who supports Bush we need more dumbasses like you!

But, sir, that's not what you said in your clandestine meeting with our American counterparts in the Democratic Party.

QUIET YOU FOOL!! We don't want to give ourselves or the Democrats away before we join in hands to enslave all who are not liberals like ourselves.

You seem to imply Hitler was a liberal. You're wrong. Hitler strongarmed and abused a liberal media to help attain his power but he never, ever, had any love for the concept, any more than he did the democracy he abused and eventually dismantled to stay in power.

Case in point, April 26, 1933, Hitler's conversation with Bishop Berning and Monsignor Steinmann (the Catholic leadership in Germany). "The subject was the common fight against liberalism, Socialism and Bolshevism, discussed in the friendliest terms."

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitlerdemo.htm

That quotes historian "Guenter Lewy", who I haven't heard of previously but these statements fall right in line with the clear trends hitler followed.

For that matter, how could you even vaguely insinuate that hitler had some sort of love for communism? Communism was hitler's 'terrorism' to compare his rhetoric to the dialogue of today. All his conquests where conducted in the name of countering the 'threat of communism'.

And then you go on to, somehow, insinuate that fascism is liberalism. Again, you have either lost touch with reality or you never had it to begin with. Here's a quote by Mussolini:

"Fascism, which was not afraid to call itself reactionary... does not hesitate to call itself illiberal and anti-liberal." --Benito Mussolini

The only thing liberal about mussolini was the way he built roads. Thats it.

Here's another quote by that assmonger...

"If it is admitted that the nineteenth century has been the century of Socialism, Liberalism and Democracy, it does not follow that the twentieth must also be the century of Liberalism, Socialism and Democracy. Political doctrines pass; peoples remain. It is to be expected that this century may be that of authority, a century of the "Right," a Fascist century. If the nineteenth was the century of the individual it may be expected that this one may be the century of "collectivism" and therefore the century of the State."

---Benito Mussolini, The Doctrine of Fascism, 1932

So tell me again, mussolini was liberal how?

And liberals had no love for stalin, they simply prefered him over hitler during WW2. Go figure.

I could go on but i have a busy day ahead of me. Put down coulter's slanderous bullshit and start thinking for yourself. You have a web browser right there in front of you, try reading a little information that isn't dished out to you in carefully rationed portions by your corporate masters.

The misinformation you have fully digested and are now pandering does nothing to further your cause or humanity at all. You have basically tried to demonize anyone who disagrees with you. Even in my attempts to have a rational conversation with you, you have attempted to demonize me. Please wake the fuck up.

Communism and Fascism were in competition with each other over who would be the one's to wield their tyranny over the masses, so of course they were at odds. They were liberal ideologies at odds.

Mussolini also said the trains always ran on time. Mussolini said a lot of things to serve his own purposes. His regard for the truth was non-existant. His actions spoke his intentions.

The Democratic Party, whether you agree with them or not, is the spokesperson for modern day liberalism. They are the party of big government, entitlement programs, government oversight of schools, or industry, of infrastructure, gun control, universal healthcare. For every problem there is a governmental solution. Cradle to grave. And once everyone gets all comfy and cozy with the government taking care of all their wants and needs, WHAMMO! fascist/socialist/communist/imperialist rule.

I'll fight to my death to prevent that. So will millions upon millions upon millions of others.

Answer me some ?'s

1 Is being an American more important to you than being a human being?

2. Do you worship the flag more than you do the crucifix?

3. Are the laws of Ceasar more important than the laws of God to you?

Just chew on those and then get back to me.
Please let Armeggeddon come so we can get it over with all ready!

All products ever made are symbols of oppression. Therefore, we should buy nothing and live in caves and eat plants even though they don't like to be eaten and not talk to each other because all oppression begins when two people communicate. We will then be pure and world peace will arrive.

Long live the revolution! Long live ideological purity. Long live those who refuse to sell out. We shall inherit the dirt of the earth and revert back to apes.

Oh, excuse me, "revert" is a politically incorrect term, an example of specie-ism gone amok. Hopefully, the apes will eat us and put an end to the human race which has done nothing but cause trouble.

Long live mass suicide! Long live the absolutely unfettered and pure anarchism that recognizes that life itself is an act of oppression since no creature can survive without eating another and freedom will not reign until the earth is a cold lifeless rock floating aimlessly through space.

GWB is a Nazi Dictator cause his grandfather sold shit ti Hitler. Since the whole Bush family is a Nazi Dictatorship please explain what the hell happened to pappa Bush loosing his office to Billy Boy Cuntlapper Clinton. Why did they not FIX that election? Why dident pappa just take over the government? Why did pappa not do the WTC. Why are all of you jerks so fucking stupid. Seig Heil!

what the fuck? how did u manage to post with the name X?

that was my old name but for whatever reason, i was prohibited from posting with that name. it always said error.

so i had to become "The New X"

wtf? i want my old name back

There are some things that have been troubling me of late. Is there a possibility that Police in the name of Homeland security will start rounding up dissentients to Bush policy and put them in "detention camps" without access to lawyers or their families? Also why is it when you see a pro-war rally there are not usually many black people in it or much of anything besides white people? Is Bush trying to destroy affirmative action really about making college access equal for whites or about keeping the Anglo-Saxon majority on campus in place, mainly because it is the Anglo-Saxon community that supports him? "When darkies get an education they get all kinds of dangerous ideas in their heads" Is his anti-abortion stance really about the sanctity of life or his misogynist need to control women's bodies and keep the poor working as baby factories for taco bell and janitorial workers? The more people have babies and can't go to college the more of a ignorant large labor force you will have. Once people can control their own reproductive cycles they have the ability to improve their station in life. Keep the poor as low wage breeders; teach abstinence because Judeo-Christianity teaches hatred of the body. Distract the masses with over seas conflicts to whip them up in patriotic hysteria so they won't see the disaster going on right here with rising unemployment, stagnant wages and an increasingly illiterate society. Control the food supply by pushing out the small farmer. Now that is another curious thing why are conservatives so afraid of big government but when a corporation wants tax payer bailouts from the hard earned pockets of the working class they are all of a sudden for it? Why is the welfare mother so bad but corporate welfare supposedly benefits everyone when huge stadiums are built from local taxpayer dollars but our own schools have roofs caving in and no books? You conservatives tell me what's going on you tell me why the average wage according to the department of labor statistics has stagnated %45 since 1975 and the average worker has to work 6 to 8 weeks longer just to earn what they did for the same standard of living 1975? Why does Iraq to be liberated from the dictator we put in place just like we set up Osama and the Taliban in the 1980's when what they really need is for us to stop creating the tyrannical regimes there in the first place?
Why is it when they bring babies dying in their arms to our soldiers saying the only word they know "hospital" are they turned away. Why because their country is in shambles and it will always be that way until the natural order of the universe prevails and our empire loses the ability to keep it poor. I say humanity before sovereignty! I say man before the mechanical greedy nexus of corporate sponsored state tyranny! I say the beauty of the human spirit will over come the conservatives morbid need to squelch it! The light of truth cannot be kept under a bushel, we will evolve!

Sandra Lee Monday

There are some things that have been troubling me of late. Is there a possibility that Police in the name of Homeland security will start rounding up dissentients to Bush policy and put them in "detention camps" without access to lawyers or their families? Also why is it when you see a pro-war rally there are not usually many black people in it or much of anything besides white people? Is Bush trying to destroy affirmative action really about making college access equal for whites or about keeping the Anglo-Saxon majority on campus in place, mainly because it is the Anglo-Saxon community that supports him? "When darkies get an education they get all kinds of dangerous ideas in their heads" Is his anti-abortion stance really about the sanctity of life or his misogynist need to control women's bodies and keep the poor working as baby factories for taco bell and janitorial workers? The more people have babies and can't go to college the more of a ignorant large labor force you will have. Once people can control their own reproductive cycles they have the ability to improve their station in life. Keep the poor as low wage breeders; teach abstinence because Judeo-Christianity teaches hatred of the body. Distract the masses with over seas conflicts to whip them up in patriotic hysteria so they won't see the disaster going on right here with rising unemployment, stagnant wages and an increasingly illiterate society. Control the food supply by pushing out the small farmer. Now that is another curious thing why are conservatives so afraid of big government but when a corporation wants tax payer bailouts from the hard earned pockets of the working class they are all of a sudden for it? Why is the welfare mother so bad but corporate welfare supposedly benefits everyone when huge stadiums are built from local taxpayer dollars but our own schools have roofs caving in and no books? You conservatives tell me what's going on you tell me why the average wage according to the department of labor statistics has stagnated %45 since 1975 and the average worker has to work 6 to 8 weeks longer just to earn what they did for the same standard of living 1975? Why does Iraq to be liberated from the dictator we put in place just like we set up Osama and the Taliban in the 1980's when what they really need is for us to stop creating the tyrannical regimes there in the first place?
Why is it when they bring babies dying in their arms to our soldiers saying the only word they know "hospital" are they turned away. Why because their country is in shambles and it will always be that way until the natural order of the universe prevails and our empire loses the ability to keep it poor. I say humanity before sovereignty! I say man before the mechanical greedy nexus of corporate sponsored state tyranny! I say the beauty of the human spirit will over come the conservatives morbid need to squelch it! The light of truth cannot be kept under a bushel, we will evolve!

Sandra Lee Monday

Oh well I guess the thought cannot be completed here is a picture if it (the site) will allow me of Iraqi babies who suffered under U.S.. Sanctions. Also just one question and I know the conservatives will think it's irrelevant but it has been bugging me, why do you see way more white people at the pro-war rallies than black or any other minority for that matter. Why is it predominately the Anglo-Saxon community that is so pro-Bush? Could it be that other groups have been historically under-priviliged and therefore are suspicious of self-proclaimed white leaders of the world? Isn't this mistrust based on experience with the way the police treat minorities, the way white America deals out unfairness to the black world and the way mostly black votes were thrown out by Katherine Harris and Data Base technologies in the Jim Crow election of 2000? So why do more WHITE PEOPLE support Bush and military bullying of third world nations than anyone else? Please I need to understand why Anglo-Saxons should have more authority than anyone else on what is right!

Sandra Lee Monday

Great poster. The current "true American" newspeak dictionary as it maps to Hitler's rhetoric:

Conservative = Hitler's Aryan
True American = Hitler's pure race
Liberal = Hitler's Jew
Democratic Socialist = Hitler's International Jew.

Kinda fits the current "American" culture of fear. Springtime for Bush and the GOP... goosestep is the latest step you'll see...

I like this picture! Fuck bush!

Bush is a fascist nazi who LOVES the jews this time around! Unlike Hitler, he never served his country in time of war, stole 2 elections & can't speak worth a crap! His agenda of lies, fear, hate, world domination & control of the newspapers is just like Uncle Adolf. The NeoCons are the NeoNazis of the new millennium!!! Cheney already has his fuhrer's bunker to hid out in!!!! Bush'c cabinet assit him just like Hitler's henchman in spreading more lies, neocon BS, control, fear and disaster whereever they go!

This evil regime will lead the US to colapse if it stays on the same path. that is certain! Nazi Bush & his war criminal cabinet ned to be charged w/ war crimes & serve time for their autrocities!!! Save the earth! Protest Bush!!!! Protest the BUSH NAZIS NOW!!!!

The grandfather Prescott, the son George 1 and the grandson George 2 are and were Skull N Bones. The sins get passed along and are willingly accepted.
When Kruschev said, we will destroy you from within, he meant through the lodges. Nazism, communism, socialism, etc...is all the same, meaning they are our enemies. They all want America destroyed. The worst part is, we all helped fund it by letting these evil men rob us through illegal taxes and then after lining their own pockets, funded this NWO that will turn America into the land of the enslaved submissive servitude.

Nazi's were Nazi's before they started murdering people. Nazism still exists in the hearts of many, the bigotry, hate, fascism, etc. I say "call a spade a spade, even if it's only 1939."