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Warmonger Explains War

by C/O Diogenes Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 1:15 AM

Ever have this itching feeling in the back of your mind that what the warmongers are saying is not terribly well thought out?

Warmonger Explains War

With Iraq To Peacenik

Author Unknown

3-18-3

Peacenik: Why did you say we are invading Iraq?

 

Warmonger: We are invading Iraq because it is in violation of security council resolution 1441. A country cannot be allowed to violate security council resolutions.

 

PN: But I thought many of our allies, including Israel, were in violation of more security council resolutions than Iraq.

 

WM: It's not just about UN resolutions. The main point is that Iraq could have weapons of mass destruction, and the first sign of a smoking gun could well be a mushroom cloud over NY.

 

PN: Mushroom cloud? But I thought the weapons inspectors said Iraq had no nuclear weapons.

 

WM: Yes, but biological and chemical weapons are the issue.

 

PN: But I thought Iraq did not have any long range missiles for attacking us or our allies with such weapons.

 

WM: The risk is not Iraq directly attacking us, but rather terrorists networks that Iraq could sell the weapons to.

 

PN: But couldn't virtually any country sell chemical or biological materials? We sold quite a bit to Iraq in the eighties ourselves, didn't we?

 

WM: That's ancient history. Look, Saddam Hussein is an evil man that has an undeniable track record of repressing his own people since the early eighties. He gasses his enemies. Everyone agrees that he is a power-hungry lunatic murderer.

 

PN: We sold chemical and biological materials to a power-hungry lunatic murderer?

 

WM: The issue is not what we sold, but rather what Saddam did. He is the one that launched a pre-emptive first strike on Kuwait.

 

PN: A pre-emptive first strike does sound bad. But didn't our ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, know about and green-light the invasion of Kuwait?

 

WM: Let's deal with the present, shall we? As of today, Iraq could sell its biological and chemical weapons to Al Qaida. Osama BinLaden himself released an audio tape calling on Iraqis to suicide attack us, proving a partnership between the two.

 

PN: Osama Bin Laden? Wasn't the point of invading Afghanistan to kill him?

 

WM: Actually, it's not 100% certain that it's really Osama Bin Laden on the tapes. But the lesson from the tape is the same: there could easily be a partnership between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein unless we act.

 

PN: Is this the same audio tape where Osama Bin Laden labels Saddam a secular infidel?

 

WM: You're missing the point by just focusing on the tape. Powell presented a strong case against Iraq.

 

PN: He did?

 

WM: Yes, he showed satellite pictures of an Al Qaeda poison factory in Iraq.

 

PN: But didn't that turn out to be a harmless shack in the part of Iraq controlled by the Kurdish opposition?

 

WM: And a British intelligence report...

 

PN: Didn't that turn out to be copied from an out-of-date graduate student paper?

 

WM: And reports of mobile weapons labs...

 

PN: Weren't those just artistic renderings?

 

WM: And reports of Iraqis scuttling and hiding evidence from inspectors...

 

PN: Wasn't that evidence contradicted by the chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix?

 

WM: Yes, but there is plenty of other hard evidence that cannot be revealed because it would compromise our security.

 

PN: So there is no publicly available evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

 

WM: The inspectors are not detectives, it's not their JOB to find evidence. You're missing the point.

 

PN: So what is the point?

 

WM: The main point is that we are invading Iraq because resolution 1441 threatened "severe consequences." If we do not act, the security council will become an irrelevant debating society.

 

PN: So the main point is to uphold the rulings of the security council?

 

WM: Absolutely. ... unless it rules against us.

 

PN: And what if it does rule against us?

 

WM: In that case, we must lead a coalition of the willing to invade Iraq.

 

PN: Coalition of the willing? Who's that?

 

WM: Britain, Turkey, Bulgaria, Spain, and Italy, for starters.

 

PN: I thought Turkey refused to help us unless we gave them tens of billions of dollars.

 

WM: Nevertheless, they may now be willing.

 

PN: I thought public opinion in all those countries was against war.

 

WM: Current public opinion is irrelevant. The majority expresses its will by electing leaders to make decisions.

 

PN: So it's the decisions of leaders elected by the majority that is important?

 

WM: Yes.

 

PN: But George B-

 

WM: I mean, we must support the decisions of our leaders, however they were elected, because they are acting in our best interest. This is about being a patriot. That's the bottom line.

 

PN: So if we do not support the decisions of the president, we are not patriotic?

 

WM: I never said that.

 

PN: So what are you saying? Why are we invading Iraq?

 

WM: As I said, because there is a chance that they have weapons of mass destruction that threaten us and our allies.

 

PN: But the inspectors have not been able to find any such weapons.

 

WM: Iraq is obviously hiding them.

 

PN: You know this? How?

 

WM: Because we know they had the weapons ten years ago, and they are still unaccounted for.

 

PN: The weapons we sold them, you mean?

 

WM: Precisely.

 

PN: But I thought those biological and chemical weapons would degrade to an unusable state over ten years.

 

WM: But there is a chance that some have not degraded.

 

PN: So as long as there is even a small chance that such weapons exist, we must invade?

 

WM: Exactly.

 

PN: But North Korea actually has large amounts of usable chemical, biological, AND nuclear weapons, AND long range missiles that can reach the west coast AND it has expelled nuclear weapons inspectors, AND threatened to turn America into a sea of fire.

 

WM: That's a diplomatic issue.

 

PN: So why are we invading Iraq instead of using diplomacy?

 

WM: Aren't you listening? We are invading Iraq because we cannot allow the inspections to drag on indefinitely. Iraq has been delaying, deceiving, and denying for over ten years, and inspections cost us tens of millions.

 

PN: But I thought war would cost us tens of billions.

 

WM: Yes, but this is not about money. This is about security.

 

PN: But wouldn't a pre-emptive war against Iraq ignite radical Muslim sentiments against us, and decrease our security?

 

WM: Possibly, but we must not allow the terrorists to change the way we live. Once we do that, the terrorists have already won.

 

PN: So what is the purpose of the Department of Homeland Security, color-coded terror alerts, and the Patriot Act? Don't these change the way we live?

 

WM: I thought you had questions about Iraq.

 

PN: I do. Why are we invading Iraq?

 

WM: For the last time, we are invading Iraq because the world has called on Saddam Hussein to disarm, and he has failed to do so. He must now face the consequences.

 

PN: So, likewise, if the world called on us to do something, such as find a peaceful solution, we would have an obligation to listen?

 

WM: By "world", I meant the United Nations.

 

PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the United Nations?

 

WM: By "United Nations" I meant the Security Council.

 

PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the Security Council?

 

WM: I meant the majority of the Security Council.

 

PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the majority of the Security Council?

 

WM: Well... there could be an unreasonable veto.

 

PN: In which case?

 

WM: In which case, we have an obligation to ignore the veto.

 

PN: And if the majority of the Security Council does not support us at all?

 

WM: Then we have an obligation to ignore the Security Council.

 

PN: That makes no sense:

 

WM: If you love Iraq so much, you should move there. Or maybe France, with the all the other cheese-eating surrender monkeys. It's time to boycott their wine and cheese, no doubt about that.

 

PN: I give up.

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And so we...

by Diogenes Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 1:16 AM

...just how much sense the Warmongers make.

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Hussein ass monger, just shut up already

by Hussein ass monger, just shut up already Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 1:20 AM

We win!

NaninaniboooooobBOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Hussein dies. America saves the day. Iraqis liberated!

Suck my big cock, you guys lose!

BLESS THE TRUE PATRIOTS, THE TROOPS! GOD SPEED!

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You seem to have a fixation...

by Diogenes Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 1:26 AM

...on Gay Sex. Are you repressing something? Go ahead admit it - you just want to be Hussein's love slave. It's alright you can come out of the closet now.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 1:29 AM

Whatever happened to that Osama dude, anyway?

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 1:33 AM

Example given and promptly re-enforced!

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where is osama? where is cheney

by mediawatcher Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 2:32 AM

osama's at his daddy's royal house in Saudi Arabia,

doing bong hits with dick and they're both laughing

at all the idiocy that they've manipulated bush into

osama: see, I told you he was a spineless punk (takes a hit)

cheney: takes one to know one

osama: oh yeah (coughs out his toke), I didn't see

you take up arms when those wackos that I had nothing to do with attacked the World Trade center

cheney: hey, I told you, I was in an important meeting with my haliburton people (takes a toke)

osama: who? my uncle?

cheney: no you idiot (coughs), ack! oh, my heart

my heart, aaaaaahhhh! (keels over)

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Haha, Mediawatcher is stupid

by Haha, Mediawatcher is stupid Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 1:24 PM

Whatever, now thats just sad, I thought my life of constant battling against the forces of evil (Hussein lovers) was sad, but making up comedies based on your conspiracy theories are really stupid, its not even funny.

Thats right, Osama, thats why we took out his second-in-command, and thats why Osama can never attack America again, thanks to American action.

But you communist bastards would rather have inaction and wait for the Iraqi bio/chem weapons to come hailing down on us.

You can die by suicide, but I choose to prevent Saddam from ever attacking us. SUCK MY BIG COCK, Diogayness, I know you wanna, EAT IT!

Remember you liberals are all for gay rights, i think its you who is a closet homofaggot. Haha, faggot boy.

Do us all a favor, and protect your little dictator, BECOME A HUMAN SHIELD!

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One of the common...

by Diogenes Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 5:24 PM

...side effects of Psychiatric medications is that they accentuate the psychoses of already psychotic people. You medication might be your problem.

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Get a grip

by Eric Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 5:38 PM

Any country can violate any UN resolution they so choose. They just have to be ready to deal with the consequences.

If the world opinion is overwhelmingly against the US invading Iraq, why doesn't the UN come together in an emergent assembly and provide a resolution to prevent us from doing so???

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"resolution to prevent us"

by General Disarray Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 5:40 PM

Because they don't have the ability to enforce it.

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You need medication.....

by Diogenes Saturday, Mar. 22, 2003 at 11:55 AM

....medication and more prozac so you can do as I do and fuck Hussein's burnt corpse. He's burnt a little, but his cock sure is yummy!

Down with America, support your local Communist dictator!

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Resolution to enforce it

by PL Saturday, Mar. 22, 2003 at 4:15 PM

"Because they don't have the ability to enforce it."

Because they don't have the balls to enforce anything.

When was hte last time the UN enforced anything? Kosovo was pretty much a Clinton/nato unilateral NON-UN action. What did they do in Somolia? Anywhere?



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Idiots on the Left, read it and weep...

by Rich Saturday, Mar. 22, 2003 at 4:46 PM

Idiots on the Left, ...
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You people for "peace" for the Iraqi people are morons. Here's is your proof. And it will ONLY GET BIGGER. Are you starting to feel stupid yet?

"No Saddam Hussein!" one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. "Bush!"



U.S. Marines Rip Down Saddam Portraits

1 hour, 5 minutes ago

By ELLEN KNICKMEYER, Associated Press Writer

Milling crowds of men and boys watched as the Marines attached ropes on the front of their Jeeps to one portrait and then backed up, peeling the Iraqi leader's black-and-white metal image off a frame. Some locals briefly joined Maj. David "Bull" Gurfein in a new cheer.



"Iraqis! Iraqis! Iraqis!" Gurfein yelled, pumping his fist in the air.



"We wanted to send a message that Saddam is done," said Gurfein, a New York native in the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force. "People are scared to show a lot of emotion. That's why we wanted to show them this time we're here, and Saddam is done."



The Marines arrived in Safwan, just across the Kuwait border, after Cobra attack helicopters, attack jets, tanks, 155 mm howitzers and sharpshooters cleared the way along Route 80, the main road into Iraq (news - web sites).



Safwan, 375 miles south of Baghdad, is a poor, dirty, wrecked town pocked by shrapnel from the last Gulf war (news - web sites). Iraqi forces in the area sporadically fired mortars and guns for hours Thursday and Friday. Most townspeople hid, although residents brought forth a wounded little girl, her palm bleeding after the new fighting. Another man said his wife was shot in the leg by the Americans.



A few men and boys ventured out, putting makeshift white flags on their pickup trucks or waving white T-shirts out truck windows.



"Americans very good," Ali Khemy said. "Iraq wants to be free."



Some chanted, "Ameriki! Ameriki!"



Many others in the starving town just patted their stomachs and raised their hands, begging for food.



A man identifying himself only as Abdullah welcomed the arrival of the U.S. troops: "Saddam Hussein is no good. Saddam Hussein a butcher."



An old woman shrouded in black — one of the very few women outside — knelt toward the feet of Americans, embracing an American woman. A younger man with her pulled her away, giving her a warning sign by sliding his finger across his throat.



In 1991, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died after prematurely celebrating what they believed was their liberation from Saddam after the Gulf War. Some even pulled down a few pictures of Saddam then — only to be killed by Iraqi forces.



Gurfein playfully traded pats with a disabled man and turned down a dinner invitation from townspeople.



"Friend, friend," he told them in Arabic learned in the first Gulf War.



"We stopped in Kuwait that time," he said. "We were all ready to come up there then, and we never did."



The townspeople seemed grateful this time.



"No Saddam Hussein!" one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. "Bush!"



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