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Photos Shows Rachel Corey Was Murdered!

by Action Needed Now! Monday, Mar. 17, 2003 at 9:04 PM

Photos show Rachel Corey was Murdered! Associated Press & Haaretz Reports Available Now.

Please email your local newspaper and tell them to feature this story. Contact the head of the foreign/world division of your local paper, and tell them that there are pictures showing that Rachel was murdered. The links are below:

http://www.palsolidarity.org/pictures/rach1.jpg
http://www.palsolidarity.org/pictures/rach2.jpg
http://www.palsolidarity.org/pictures/rach3.jpg

** Note, I am note affliated with the organization. I believe that if we all push our newspapers to feature this story, more people will understand the truth about events in Israel and the Occupied Territories.

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Israeli Bulldozer Kills U.S. Protester
Sun Mar 16, 5:05 PM ET

By IBRAHIM BARZAK, Associated Press Writer

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - An American college student in Gaza to protest Israel operations was killed Sunday when she was run over by a bulldozer while trying to block troops from demolishing a Palestinian home.

At least one Palestinian also was killed.

The killing of the student by the Israelis — the first of a foreign activist in 29 months of fighting — came as Israelis and Palestinians wrangled over the terms of a U.S.-backed plan to end the violence and establish a Palestinian state.

Rachel Corrie, 23, of Olympia, Wash., had been with U.S. and British demonstrators in the Rafah refugee camp trying to stop demolitions. She died in the hospital, said Dr. Ali Moussa, a hospital administrator.

"This is a regrettable accident," said Capt. Jacob Dallal, an army spokesman. "We are dealing with a group of protesters who were acting very irresponsibly, putting everyone in danger."

The army said soldiers were looking for explosives and tunnels used to smuggle weapons.

The United States "deeply regrets this tragic death of an American citizen," State Department spokesman Lou Fintor said.

He expressed condolences to Corrie's family and said the United States wants an "immediate and full investigation" into her death.

"We again call on the Israeli defense forces to undertake all possible measures to avoid harm to civilians," Fintor's statement said.

Greg Schnabel, 28, of Chicago, said four Americans and four Britons were trying to stop Israeli troops from destroying a building belonging to Dr. Samir Masri.

Israel for months has been tearing down houses of Palestinians it suspects in Islamic militant activity, saying such operations deter attacks on Israel such as suicide bombings.

"Rachel was alone in front of the house as we were trying to get them to stop," Schnabel said. "She waved for the bulldozer to stop. She fell down and the bulldozer kept going. It had completely run over her and then it reversed and ran back over her."

She was wearing a brightly colored jacket when the bulldozer hit her.

Several Palestinians gathered at the site, and troops opened fire, killing one Palestinian, witnesses said. The army had no comment on that report.

Corrie was the first member of the Palestinian-backed "International Solidarity Movement" to be killed in a conflict that has claimed more than 2,200 Palestinian lives — about three times the toll on the Israeli side.

A student at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, Corrie would have graduated this year, Schnabel said.

Her killing should be a message to President Bush (news - web sites), who is "providing Israel with tanks and bulldozers, and now they killed one of his own people," said Mansour Abed Allah, 29, a Palestinian human rights worker who witnessed Corrie's death.

Several other U.S. citizens have been killed in Palestinian-Israeli violence. On March 5, Abigail Litle, 14, was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing attack on a bus in the northern Israeli city of Haifa. Last July, five Americans died in a bombing at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

Bush said Friday that a long-awaited "road map" for peace would be back on the table once Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (news - web sites) appointed a prime minister with real power — a process that appeared well under way last week.

But on Sunday, Arafat presented legislators with proposed changes to the Palestinian basic law approved last Monday that, according to a diplomatic source, that created the impression that a prime minister was not independent.

The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the move could thereby reduce any pressure on Israel to constructively engage the new Palestinian prime minister.

The road map worked out by the United States, European Union (news - web sites), United Nations (news - web sites) and Russia foresees Palestinian statehood by 2005 and an end to Israeli settlement-building in the West Bank and Gaza.

Bush has said that first, the Palestinians need to change their leadership, and the road map calls for Arafat to appoint an empowered prime minister.

While Arafat bowed to intense international pressure and agreed to share control with a new prime minister, Palestinian legislators said Sunday he was now asking for amendments in the law passed last week.

The most significant change was that Arafat wanted the ultimate say in the creation of a new Palestinian Cabinet, suggesting he could have veto power over candidates nominated by the new prime minister. He also asked for the right to chair Cabinet meetings, said legislators.

The 88-member Palestinian Legislative Council was to meet Monday to discuss the proposed changes. If agreement is reached, legislators are expected to approve the appointment of Arafat's longtime deputy, Mahmoud Abbas, as premier.

Meanwhile, Israel pressed ahead with its proposals over key phrases in the draft "road map." According to the Haaretz newspaper, Israel wants to replace all references to an "independent" Palestinian state with the term "certain attributes of sovereignty," noting that such a state has to be "credible" and "law abiding."

Israeli officials had no immediate comment on the report, which cited anonymous Israeli sources.

The Palestinians say U.S. officials have assured them that no more changes will be made in the document.

In phase one of the draft, Palestinians would carry out government reforms and crack down on militants, while Israel would withdraw from Palestinian towns. Israel would then recognize an interim Palestinian state. Negotiations on full statehood would come in stage three.

Each phase is laden with obstacles. If Arafat fails to appoint a prime minister with real power, Israel could refuse to end its occupation of West Bank towns and villages. To date, Arafat has failed to rein in militants.

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American peace activist killed by army bulldozer
in Rafah

IDF expresses `regret'; State Department `assessing' reports

By Haaretz Staff

A 23-year-old American woman, Rachel Corrie, a college student from Olympia, Washington who belonged to the International Solidarity Movement in the territories, was killed yesterday by an IDF bulldozer during a house demolition in Rafah.

Israeli officials expressed "regret" over the incident to American officials, sources in Jerusalem said, and in Washington, a State Department statement said it had received reports of the incident, and was "assessing the situation."

The ISM activist was taking part in protest efforts yesterday afternoon in Rafah, to prevent the army from demolishing houses in a strip of land a few hundred meters wide between the Rafah refugee camp and the nearby Egyptian border, in an effort to block smuggling from Egypt.

According to eyewitnesses, a routine IDF demolition operation was underway in the area, with two D-9 bulldozers and a tank as protection. They destroyed three buildings that were already partially destroyed and a number of walls. The ISM activists then deployed in the area and used bullhorns to call on the drivers to stop. According to ISM activists, at one stage the IDF forces left the area and took up positions near the border, a few hundred meters away.

But around 5 P.M., the force returned, and the activists assumed the bulldozers were on their way to other houses. "They began demolishing one house," said an ISM activist, who said his name was Richard. "We gathered around and called out to them and went into the house, so they backed out. During the entire time they knew who we were and what we were doing, because they didn't shoot at us. We stood in their way and shouted. There were about eight of us in an area about 70 square meters. Suddenly, we saw they turned to a house they had started to demolish before, and I saw Rachel standing in the way of the front bulldozer."

According to the ISM activist, Corrie was wearing a bright jacket and climbed onto the bulldozer shovel-plow and began shouting at the driver. "There's no way he didn't see her, since she was practically looking into the cabin. At one stage, he turned around toward the building. The bulldozer kept moving, and she slipped and fell off the plow. But the bulldozer kept moving, the shovel above her. I guess it was about 10 or 15 meters that it dragged her and for some reason didn't stop. We shouted like crazy to the driver through loudspeakers that he should stop, but he just kept going and didn't lift the shovel. Then it stopped and backed up. We ran to Rachel. She was still breathing."

According to the activists, the tank arrived on the scene and was only 20 meters away, but the soldiers did not offer any assistance. A little while later, the heavy equipment pulled away, and a Red Crescent ambulance took the badly injured woman to Abu Yusef Najar Hospital in Rafah, where she was declared dead on arrival. A second activist was slightly injured. The destroyed house belonged to Dr. Samir Nasrallah.

Army sources said the demolitions were meant to prevent sabotage along the Philadelphi road parallel to the Egyptian border. The sources said the bulldozer driver deviated from the track and apparently was moving a block of concrete that hit the woman.

The ISM is an international pacifist movement that draws its inspiration from a quote by Albert Einstein: "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."

Since the start of the intifada, hundreds of the foreigners, mostly students, have taken a rigorous course in nonviolent theory and practice and then been placed in Palestinian towns and villages, where they report on events at checkpoints, villages under curfew and house demolitions, help move humanitarian aid into besieged areas, and accompanying ailing Palestinians to hospitals. As non-Palestinians, they enjoy a certain measure of immunity - Corrie was the first ISM casualty in the nearly 30 months of intifada.
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what to say....

by u....i Monday, Mar. 17, 2003 at 9:19 PM

check out this link also: http://www.palsolidarity.org/

wow - - this is really upsetting. i don't know what to say.

please tell me how the global movement for peace and justice can win.

i want us to win so badly.
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One Murder by Palatines

by Skinner Monday, Mar. 17, 2003 at 9:25 PM

One Murder by Palati...
shoshana.jpg, image/jpeg, 138x180

In this terrible conflict in the middle east ther have be 23 Americans murdered by the Palatines.

Here is the store of one:

Nov 4, 2001 - Shoshana Ben Ishai, 16, of Betar Illit was killed when a Palestinian terrorist opened fire with a sub-machine gun shortly before 16:00 at a No. 25 Egged bus at the French Hill junction in northern Jerusalem.

A Palestinian gunman armed with an M-16 rifle opened fire on Egged bus No. 25 traveling from the Neve Ya'akov neighborhood in northern Jerusalem towards the center of the city. He emptied a full magazine before being killed by a border policeman and policewoman who were on routine duty across the street. Shoshana Ben Ishai and Menashe Regev were fatally shot; 45 others were injured. Both Hamas and Islmaic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Shoshana, an 11th grader, was on her way home from the Beit Shulamit School in Jerusalem's Neveh Ya'akov, where she boarded the bus. She was evacuated by ambulance to Sha'arei Zedek Hospital where her mother works as a nurse. Her mother, who was at home at the time of the incident, called the hospital to ask if they had any information about her daughter. When it became clear that Shoshana had been killed, the hospital notified the parents who came to identify the body.

Shoshana, the oldest of six children of Yitzhak and Miriam Ben Ishai, was born in Long Island, New York, and immigrated to Israel with her parents when she was five. They settled in Kfar Adumim and later moved to the religious community of Betar Illit.

Na'ama Toren, her teacher at the Beit Shulamit school in Jerusalem's Neveh Ya'acov neighborhood, described her as a role model for the class. Haya Goldstein, a good friend of Shoshana's said, "She was a happy girl, very sympathetic. It was important for her to help other people." Mazal Romi, another friend, said, "She was a modest and quiet girl, who dedicated many hours to her studies, and was an optimistic person."

Her father said that after mourning his daughter's death he will travel to the United States, there he will explain about the terror inflicted upon Israeli citizens.

Shoshana Ben Ishai was buried in Jerusalem. She leaves behind her parents and five siblings.

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this is also terrible....

by Iddy Monday, Mar. 17, 2003 at 9:34 PM

yes.. Shoshana's murder is horrible also.

how can we stop all this madness?!



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Rachel Corrie, Hero of the Peace Movement

by shalom Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 12:27 AM

Rachel Corrie... remember her name. A 23 year old American who believed in peace so much that she gave her life for it. Rachel tried to stop the destruction of a Palestinian Doctor's home... a home slated for demolition, not because it's owner was a terrorist, or suspected of terrorism... but simply because the Israelis wanted to "clean" the area of Palestinian homes. Rachel tried to stop that injustice and paid the ultimate price for it.

Don't let this pass. Mail the photos of Rachel's murder to the White House... mail the photos to the Press... mail the photos to the UN. DEMAND ACTION. Print the photos out and make them into flyers... get the word out. Don't let Rachel Corrie's death be in vain.

Tonight the television news barely mentioned the death of the peaceful but valiant American hero. The tv "news" pays more attention to Elizabeth Smith, the missing girl recently found, than they've paid to the blatant murder of Corrie.

Rachel Corrie will live forever in the hearts and minds of people everywhere who value justice and dignity. Let her example inspire us all...

Rachel Corrie, PRESENTE!
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Shoshana & Rachel: Irretrievable Lives

by Obiter Dictum, w.m. Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 12:47 AM

Here is a link to Skinner's source.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0koa0


Commentary: I remember when this child was murdered, one of many sad reminders of a dreadful crisis. Thank you for recalling her death.

Your source is not credited and your html failed.

You might think about citing your source; image and text included.
Otherwise, those reading this might think you wrote the article.
Had you actually written this article, I'm sure you would have started a new thread describing the death of this girl rather than utilizing her murder as a form of commentary.
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ISRAEL IS RACIST, EVIL AND VILE

by JA Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 4:44 AM


Archbishop Desmond Tutu used to declare about the, then, apartheid state of South Africa: "Apartheid is immoral, apartheid is evil, apartheid is wrong." The very same thing is true about the Zionist apartheid state of Israel. Nelson Mandela, upon his release from prison proclaimed in his American cities speaking tour before stadium audiences in the tens of thousands (60,000+ in the S.F. Bay Area), that: "The Palestinian cause in my cause!"

Israel is just as evil and immoral as apartheid ("Jim Crow") America was; ISRAEL is just as EVIL and IMMORAL as apartheid South Africa was; Israel is just as evil and immoral as Nazi Germany was up until 1942 (long after the Nazi persecution began, ironically, of the European JEWS, but before the death camps started in the last few years of the war, 1939-1945). Only world public opinion keeps Israeli Jews from commencing "THE FINAL SOLUTION" of "THE PALESTINIAN PROBLEM." The majority of the Israeli public already supports the complete ethnic cleansing--total population transfer--of Palestinians from Palestine.

The Israeli flag belongs in the pantheon of evil flags--right along side to the Confederate flag, the old apartheid South African flag, and the NAZI flag, as well as any other such flags. (I'm sure that Native Americans would put the American flag right up alongside there too.)

For those so-called "liberal/progressive" Zionists who recoil at my bluntness, it is time for you to WAKE UP and realize the fact that Israel IS a RACIST, EVIL, WICKED and IMMORAL state whose RACIST ideology needs to be abolished right along with other racist ideologies.

The courageous Bay Area Jewish-American veteran photojournalist, pro-Palestinian human rights activist, and anti-Zionist public speaker, Jeffrey Blankfort confronted some Zionist Jews at the Saturday anti-war protest rally in Jefferson Park in San Francisco, and told them that the Israeli flag that they had wrapped around themselves is just as "RACIST" as the Nazi flag was in Germany.

I am sickened to hear of Rachel's death, and the many more innocent Palestinians who are killed by Israel every day, and my heart goes out to Rachel Corrie's family, as well as to all those Palestinian families whose loved ones are killed by the state of Israel too. Rachel was a courageous person, because she didn't have to be there, bearing witness, trying to protect innocents, and doing Peace.
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Did you even look at the photos?

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 8:03 AM

The operator had a clear view. It knew she was down in front of it.
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Just another day...

by Diogenes Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 8:29 AM

...for the monsters of the IDF. (The humane ones are rotting in jail for refusing to take part in the ongoing War Crimes of Israel's Zionist Monsters.)
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Tragic

by MadMaxim Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 11:19 AM

The operator clearly had line of site view of her – in a red, highly visible jacket, in the first photo.

This appears to be either criminal negligence or murder.

The IDF is clearly not on high moral ground here if they do not bring the operator to justice.

It’s a sad example of what homosapiens are capable of.
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Tragic

by POIO Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 11:33 AM

And if this could convince even one staunch bush supporter to consider or reconsider exactly what it is we're fighting for here, at least her death had some sort of meaning.

Who knows, maybe if Rachele's death could open peoples' eyes, and if people could just start to realize that in USA, all the popular media does to you is lie, and that the people will need to make up their own minds if they truly want to stand on the moral high ground... maybe her death could mean a lot.

Are there any reports of media coverups on this? I heard a couple statements in chatrooms saying that she was 'in the building as it was knocked down'... which is obviously BS from even casual inspection of the pictures. Perhaps if we could expose their lies in this matter (or some other) we could start people on the path to independant thought.

There has to be some sort of way to take back our popular media. Are there any television reporters or tv station staff out there willing to co-operate in a subversive act for the sake of opening the public's eyes? It would probably cost you your job, maybe your career too (for a while anyways). What good are they with blood on your hands though?

What a brave, noble woman.


THE U.S. PRESS LIES!!
THE U.S. PRESS LIES!!
THE U.S. PRESS LIES!!
THE U.S. PRESS LIES!!
THE U.S. PRESS LIES!!
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The Presstitutes are already at it.

by Diogenes Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 11:45 AM

I have already read two articles which were aimed at smearing her and to make less of her death. One was in the Jerusalem Post - the other was a U.S. Paper - memory eludes me.

I think that is the only spin they have is to misrepresent what occurred and smear her.

We have to be alert to counter both.
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The Jerusalem Post lies?? NO WAY!!!

by POIO Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 12:02 PM

Isn't that the paper Perle is on the board of directors of? Or its parent company or something?

Go figure.

Damn newage nazi assholes
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A picture is worth...

by MadMaxim Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 1:15 PM

A picture is worth.....
rachel-corrie-flag-02.jpgzhm2pz.jpg, image/jpeg, 410x285

Is hate what real peace activists teach children?

A sad, misdirected use of good energy and drive, IMHO.
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Hate?

by Diogenes Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 1:18 PM

Or outrage?
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Simple

by Simple Simon Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 1:23 PM

That would be hate.
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To date...

by Diogenes Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 1:35 PM

...the total amount of money sent to Israel in "Foreign Aid" is about 3 times what the entire cost of the Apollo Moon Project cost.

Without AID the Socialist State of Israel would be in complete financial Collapse.

Whenever an IDF Soldier kills a Palestinian - you paid for the bullet.

Get the connection?
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Murderers Become Israeli State Heroes

by Stop Funding Israeli State Terror Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 1:40 PM

Murderers Become Isr...
baruchkever5.gif, image/png, 415x276

Compare and contrast the nonviolent efforts of Rachel Corrie with an Israeli mass murderer lauded as a "hero" in Israel. This is the sort of Israeli state terrorism U.S. tax dollars pays for.

http://www.newkach.org/special/baruch/02.htm

excerpt from site:

"On the Feast of Purim (February 1994), Dr. Baruch Goldstein, dressed as an army officer, entered the Tomb of the Patriarchs, and shot to death 29 Arabs and wounded approximately a hundred more. It is our great misfortune that Dr. Baruch Goldstein may G-D avenge his blood, who was brutally murdered by the Arabs is no longer with us."
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by lynx-11 Tuesday, Mar. 18, 2003 at 7:26 PM

OPPORTUNITY FOR PALESTINE?

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RA

by RA Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 11:38 AM

>>Did you even look at the photos?
by Sheepdog
The operator had a clear view. It knew she was down in front of it.<<

First of all Sheepdog, whenever you can't log on to LAIMC, don't be coming over to SFIMC and crying about your inability to log on to LAIMC and post a bunch of crap of what you're receiving on your screen. We don't give a flying fucking shit!!!!

The photos.

We have a "before" photo, we have an "after" photo. But we have no "during" photo. Highly suspecious.

Also, in the "before" photo, the background shows trees in the distance on the left and a clustered group of building on the right. In the "after" photo, taken from the same angle, the trees on the left are gone and the building on the right are well spaced out. Also, the bulldozer's features in the seperate photos are slightly different. There were also no pictures made of Israeli soldiers or the driver of the bulldozer.

I don't know what happened. I wasn't there. But these photos do not support the assertations that are being made that the driver in any way had a clear view.
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you don't speak for SF-IMC

by 39 Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 11:49 AM


IMC's routinely get help from each other when they run into problems. your
command to stop this solidarity won't have any effect.

concerning the murder of Rachel Corrie:
a protest and press conference will happen today at Barabara Boxer's office
at 312 N. Spring St. in L.A.
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at 2PM

by 39 Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 11:52 AM

whoops - -
forget to say what time:

at 2PM Today! (Barbara Boxer's office 312 N.Spring St.)
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Piss Off!!

by 93 Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 11:55 AM

>IMC's routinely get help from each other when they run into problems. your command to stop this solidarity won't have any effect.<

What command? I told him to quit going around crying like a dog.
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Nazis and Zionists unite!

by Zionists are the devil's instrument Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 11:58 AM

Hey, RA. Are you also one of those people who do not believe the Holocaust happened? Or are you just so brainwashed by the U.S. mass media? Do you need to see more gruesome pictures in order to believe that the state of Israel has been and is committing these atrocities towards innocent Palestinian (and now, American) civilians? This genocide has been going on since 1948. It needs to be stopped. Anyway, I'm just wasting my time explaining to an imbecile like you. I should do more productive things like write to my Congressperson about U.S. military aid to stolen Israel. By the way, Holocaust sympathy does NOT apply to Zionists since even Holocaust survivors are denouncing their genocidal activities. Israel does to Palestinians what the Nazis did to Jews.
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Explain Then

by RA Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 12:05 PM

Quit trying to guess what I believe and what I don't. You look more stupid than you alredy are.

I wanna know where the "during" pictures are since they photographer had it in his/her hands and was shooting photos. If you have the presence of mind to shoot "before" and "after", then you have the presence of mind to shoot "during". Also, I want to know why the background of the photos taken from the same angle show different backgrounds. Why are you afraid of these questions?
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Same angle?

by lancer Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 12:24 PM

You mean in front of the dozer?
They do move in more than one direction.
And so do the people in front of them.
Perhaps we should have a nice video the next time around.
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Simple

by Simple Simon Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 12:24 PM

Don't ask the haters for documentation, RA.
Picktures? They don't need no stinking picktures.

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RA

by RA Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 12:38 PM

>You mean in front of the dozer?
They do move in more than one direction.
And so do the people in front of them.
Perhaps we should have a nice video the next time around.

Grow up child!!

They are portraying these as actual photos. They are saying Pic #1 was just before she was run over and Pic #2 was after. The photo was taken from the same spot. Why is the background different? Where are the "during" photos? You can either answer or you can't. If you can't, don't make stupid remarks. I don't care about your "theories" of why they are different or why no "during" photos. I want to know. If you have documented evidence, then spit it out. If not, shut your fucking trap!!
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Background is the same...

by Diogenes Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 12:53 PM

...from photo to photo. The Photographer appears to have been shifting position and using a Zoom Lens both. Either that or the Photos were cropped for publication.

Ra your objection is just blowing smoke and attempting to divert from the central issue - the ongoing War Crimes of Israel.
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i don't believe you

by g3 Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 1:05 PM


if it was not an accident, it was a declaration of war on the International Solidarity Movement and on non-violent civil disobedience everywhere. the purpose of such a war would be to terrorize and destroy non-violent resistance movements everywhere. no person of conscience can admit advocating such an ignoble war of terror and aggression.

if it was an accident, then non-violent movements of civil disobedience everywhere must be informed explicitly that every effort will be made to prevent harming them, that they can expect their rights to non-violent resistance to be respected and protected. nobody is even bothering to say this. it is clear that the intention of the apologists for the IDF is to destroy the ISM and all international movements of non-violent civil disobedience.

if you expect us to believe that this was an accident, you had better expect us to double and triple our support for the International solidarity movement and all other non-violent resistance movements. this is not what any of you terrifying people are saying. you would prefer that we were scared. how could we believe you? how could we dare hope for good news from you people?

remember Rachel Corrie TODAY TUESDAY 2PM at Barbara Boxer's office 312 N.Spring St.
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Simple

by Simple Simon Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 1:05 PM

NO, the title of this thread is "photos show Rachel Corey (sic) was murdered".

And they do no such thing.
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RA

by RA Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 1:39 PM

>just blowing smoke

If you go to the website rather than viewing these pictures at the top of this string, you see the full photo and you'll see they were made from the same angle, but the backgrounds are different. And no "during". photos. And they claim the IDF was there, but no photos. And no photos of the driver of the buldozer. And all this from a group that is admitedly anti-Israel and anti-American. Yeah, I'm suspicious.
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Rachel

by Scottie Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2003 at 1:51 PM

Looks like those protestors were doing a pretty good job of making themselves invisible to the driver. I think maybe they overestimated his "spider senses" which were supposed to tell him some americans had crawled into the area infront of him.
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Autopsy

by John Thursday, Mar. 20, 2003 at 12:52 AM

It seems there are conflicting reports from the peace activists.
1) these pictures show the before and after, which some people claim is missing the during pics.
2) the activists say she was sitting in front of the dozer and lifted up with dirt and fully covered and then the dozer ran atop of her.

if 2 is true why is there mound of dirt around here after.

The story is fishy. Indymedia strives for the truth, so lets have it.
Whether she tripped and hit her face/nose on the dozer and died from head injuries or she actually was run over we don't know. It could have been intentional by either party, maybe she wanted to be a martyr or maybe the dozer purposely "missed" her.

She had a death wish either way. Unlike east timor, south africa and other conflicts this conflict requires two to tango and she was dancing with death from the start.
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My My Israeli Public Relations is busy...

by Diogenes Thursday, Mar. 20, 2003 at 4:53 PM

...creating false impressions. They do not address any of the key facts. They just throw aspersions. They are PR Shills and nothing more.
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I think...

by Diogenes Thursday, Mar. 20, 2003 at 5:02 PM

...that medication you are taking has distorted your connection with reality.
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Diogaynes, we win! YOU LOSE!

by Diogaynes, we win! YOU LOSE! Thursday, Mar. 20, 2003 at 5:05 PM

Hahahahahah!

Naninanibooboo!

Cant save your damn hero Hussein anymore! All that protest, for NOTHING!

hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

What a waste of your lives!
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Nobody wins...

by Diogenes Thursday, Mar. 20, 2003 at 5:10 PM

...when humanity loses. You are simply another little pshcyopath.
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nobody wins in war, idiot

by nobody wins in war, idiot Thursday, Mar. 20, 2003 at 5:18 PM

nobody wins in war, idiot, but its Husseins fault. we tried our best.

Let me take this time to continue rubbing this in your face........

WE WIN WE WIN WE WIN!!!!!

NANINANIBOOBOO!!!!! ARE YOU UPSET YOU LOSE? DICTATOR LOVER? HUH? HUH?
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And your point?

by Diogenes Thursday, Mar. 20, 2003 at 5:36 PM

Oh, my ----- Yawwwnnn.
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Reasons why I love Hussein

by Diogenes Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 5:31 AM

Reasons why I love Hussein:

1. BIG COCK, I SUCK EVERYDAY!
2. AMERICA HAS SMALL COCK, THEY EQUAL BAD
3. Hussein's penis is yum-yummy!

What? Don't like me because I like Husseins anal area? Good, because I already gave you head in my dreams, so I don't need your sweet loving! GAY PRIDE!
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This strip is a trip

by Melvin L Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 9:17 AM

I don't know what happened to Rachel and as far as Isreal and Palestine goes, I can't believe anyone is standing up for either of those two countries. Pox on both their houses.

I do think its interesting to compare these posts to the many earlier ones on "ufos blew down the WTC" etc. Now the 'right' is pointing out minor points with photos or so-called-logic and the 'left' is ignoring or refusing to address them. I mean you could just substitute rachel for WTC and you've got the exact role reversal!

It supports my believe that the extremes curve around and met.
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Yes we do!

by One of them Friday, Mar. 21, 2003 at 9:22 AM

Melvin, there is a fine line between love and hate. Do we know when it has been crossed?
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Awareness Now

by Nat Saturday, Mar. 22, 2003 at 10:24 AM

Bush needs to either internationally admit his regime is a model dictatorship that began with Bush, Sr´s vicepresidency under former president Reagan, or start taking measures to promote international norms and regulations pertaining to international human rights. This Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a debauchery of what our government is capable of doing, and how much we can do to stop it. The US has thus far vetoed over 60 UN sanctions against Israel. The US continues to provide Israel with the weapons necessary to kill the Palestinians. Bush Jr´s current rhetoric "Axis of Evil" is something all Americans ought to question but are too afraid to. The propaganda that permeates our country and infects our minds is a deceitful and cheap campaign against the human family. Please question the constitutionality of the Homeland Security Act, Patriot Act parts I and II. God once blessed America. And our politicians abused it.
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so far away from home..

by Joseph Tuesday, Mar. 25, 2003 at 2:19 PM

I am sending my condolnses to the family of Rachel but i want to add that in time of war one must take into consideration getting hurt especially when one puts himself or in this situation herself in a dangerous event.
Again-i want to make sure i am clear-i do not agree with the act what so ever i am just making sure one invastigate all events prior to detrmining Murder or Killing etc'.
Peace!!
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Calling John Lenon...

by MadMaxim Tuesday, Mar. 25, 2003 at 2:26 PM

>>Hate?
>>by Diogenes • Monday March 17, 2003 Mont 01:18 PM
>>Or outrage?

Why not teach _love_?

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CLEAR VIEW?

by abdul mohammed Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 10:09 PM

Clear view? I dont think so. I OF COURSE WISH SHE HADN'T BEEN KILLED...BUT AS YOU SAID...."LOOK AT THE PICTURES"....start w/ #2. No Orange jacket, no clear view, etc.
Secondly, why is her life any more important than the dozen other civilians (American & Israeli) that have "purposely" been killed by Palestinian Homicide Bombers? Where are your protests against the Palestinians? Where are your calls to end the U.S. & world wide aid going to the Palestinians? Why does Arafat & the other leaders of the PLO have Billions when their people starve?

Lastly, do you ever stop to ask why it is that the IDF is even in the Palestinian controlled territories? Who gave them that land after the PLO turned down all offers to it? (hint: ISRAEL) Have you ever hear of the British Mandate? Who turned it down? Why IS the IDF in the Territories now when they voluntarily signed & agreed to the Oslo Accords? Who 1st broke the Oslo Accords?

Get the FACTS not the PROPAGANDA
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Rachel

by fresca Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 10:46 PM

Rachel, my poor misguided creature. There is nothing noble or good about giving your life in the cause of a fictional, hateful murderous people. Thos that hide their racism and hate behind a cloak of martyrdom deserve what they get. Isreal will continue to defend itself. The rachels of the world need to wake up and stop fighting for the monsters.
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Dio

by fresca Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 10:51 PM

"Just another day...
by Diogenes • Monday March 17, 2003 Mont 08:29 AM



...for the monsters of the IDF. (The humane ones are rotting in jail for refusing to take part in the ongoing War Crimes of Israel's Zionist Monsters.)
"


Dio. You just show yourself to be more of a bandwagonesgue fool with every post. You know as well as everyone else that the fictitious "palestinians" are monsters or monster supporters. There's no question about this. Think fool! Think!
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I drink Bill O'Reilly's bathwater

by Bush Admirer Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 6:36 AM

If these pictures came from Fox News, I would testify to their authenticity in a second. Why? Because everything they say is the gospel truth. Am I really as naive as I appear? Yes. Fuhrer Bush likes it that way!
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I'd like to confess

by useful idiot Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 6:43 AM

I am the one who's been mocking everyone else. I've given myself a title "useful idiot", you know like the one Hitler used for the antiwar protestors back in WWII. Well, that's me. I'm a useful idiot. Just wanted you all to know that I have an infatuation with "Fuhrer Bush". Also, I have an unusually small penis. Anyway, now that I have given myself a name, feel free to come back at me when you see me mocking someone else.

And talk about my small penis a lot. I really like it when people do that!
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!

by useful idiot Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:31 AM

I'm a useful idiot with an ususually small penis. I will mock you all into submission.
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HO HO HO

by EYE Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:35 AM

The pictures show that dumb bitch lost a chicken fight with a bull dozer.
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I'm so impressed

by Eric Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:36 AM

Wow! You know how to copy and paste the same message over and over on multiple threads? I was never able to master that. It is beyond my mental capabilities. Wait a second. I'll get my third grade buddy to show me how. After that, I'll screw his tight little butthole.
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My History

by useful idiot Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:46 AM

I'm glad that I'm here and can tell you more of my love for Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, Mao. Lenin and Castro. I have personally butt-fucked everyone of them and tongued their balls and it will be so exciting to be able to tell you over the next days, weeks, months and years what happened in complete detail. In the meanwhile, vote for Nader, down with the State, and now I'm off the Hollywood Blvd to find my 3 year old lover, Chino the dog. WOOF!! Oh, forget that. I just fuck a watermelon and stick around here. Oh, fucking watermelons is such the pits. Oh!! I just made a funny. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Oops! I think I wet 'em.
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My History

by useful idiot Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:53 AM

I'm glad that I'm here and can tell you more of my love for Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, Mao. Lenin and Castro. I have personally butt-fucked everyone of them and tongued their balls and it will be so exciting to be able to tell you over the next days, weeks, months and years what happened in complete detail. In the meanwhile, vote for Nader, down with the State, and now I'm off the Hollywood Blvd to find my 3 year old lover, Chino the dog. WOOF!! Oh, forget that. I'll just fuck a watermelon and stick around here. Oh, fucking watermelons is such the pits. Oh!! I just made a funny. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Oops! I think I wet 'em.
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I'm so impressed

by Bush Admirer Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:55 AM

Wow! You know how to copy and paste the same message over and over on multiple threads? I was never able to master that. It is beyond my mental capablilities. Wait a second. I'll get my third grade buddy to show me how. After that, I'll screw his tight little butthole.
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My History

by useful idiot Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 7:57 AM

I'm glad that I'm here and can tell you more of my love for Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, Mao. Lenin and Castro. I have personally butt-fucked everyone of them and tongued their balls and it will be so exciting to be able to tell you over the next days, weeks, months and years what happened in complete detail. In the meanwhile, vote for Nader, down with the State, and now I'm off the Hollywood Blvd to find my 3 year old lover, Chino the dog. WOOF!! Oh, forget that. I'll just fuck a watermelon and stick around here. Oh, fucking watermelons is such the pits. Oh!! I just made a funny. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Oops! I think I wet 'em.
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I'm still impressed

by Bush Admirer Friday, Mar. 28, 2003 at 8:00 AM

Wow! You know how to copy and paste the same message over and over on multiple threads? I was never able to master that. It is beyond my mental capablilities. After all, I AM a conservative. I have but a small mind. Wait a second. I'll get my third grade buddy to show me how. After that, I'll screw his tight little butthole.
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sfddsf

by afsd Friday, Apr. 18, 2003 at 9:00 AM
dfg dsfag dsfg

Isreal killed alot of Arab children guys!!
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mkj

by mkj Friday, Apr. 25, 2003 at 11:17 AM

thanks for the comment keep your 2 bit saense to yourself
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Fraud and Fake

by Kekenidika Wednesday, May. 07, 2003 at 12:12 PM
Kekenidika@yahoo.com

Is hate what real peace activists teach children?

What drivel - this picture is obviously a fake set up by the zionist jews and shows a miserable attempt at slander - it shows just how biased and incompetent you really are - but then again you probably voted for the shrub anyway

A sad, misdirected use of good energy and drive, IMHO.

Maybe a few more Americans should die at the hands of the Jewish agressors - that way the American public will see that your own government is subverting and murdering people all over the world without any qualms - but then again who said the American public had any international concience anyway?
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I think not

by fresca Wednesday, May. 07, 2003 at 12:34 PM

"What drivel - this picture is obviously a fake "

Actually it's not a fake. Clearly.

Turns out, Rachel was just another apologist for the monsters of the arab world.

Now she's dead.

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The Last Thing This Cunt Read

by KPC Wednesday, May. 07, 2003 at 12:52 PM

Whosoever Blesses Them
The intifada and its defenders.
by Larry Miller
04/22/2002 12:00:00 AM


I WAS WATCHING Greta Van Facelift on Fox the other night, and she and her guests made me talk back to the TV. Shout back, actually. Nothing witty or trenchant, you understand, just something like, "Oh, come on!" Now, to be honest, it was late, and I was downstairs alone, and I was a little, what's the word . . . loaded, yes, that's the word. I was a little shined up. A little spiffed and a little miffed, and I shouted something and angrily turned off the remote. I don't know exactly how angrily a remote can be turned off, but as angrily as you can push a pfennig-sized piece of round plastic, that's how angrily I did it. Then I walked back to the bar, made myself one-for-the-stairs (as opposed to one-for-the-road) and read some P.G. Wodehouse to restore my cheery nature. But back to the freshly-tightened Greta.

Her guests were (INSERT INDISTINGUISHABLE ARAB NAME), from Hamas, and their attorney, Stanley Cohen. No, that's not a joke. Would that it were. Stanley Cohen, the attorney for Hamas. Check that handle again: Stanley Cohen. I mean, if you tried to make up a better name than that, you couldn't do it. Let's give it a shot, though, shall we? Irving Lefkowitz. Nah, too obvious. Lew Fishman. No, no, sounds like a carpet salesman. Isaac Bashevis Singer? Now I'm reaching. Nope, you just can't beat good ol' Stan Cohen. Yes, Stanley Cohen, folks, a hard-left, righteously indignant true-believer, an honors graduate from the William Kunstler School of Just-Not-Getting-It-And-Never-Will, who had flown all the way from New York to sit next to his wonderful client over there in not the land of milk and honey. Stanley Cohen. A man who, if he listened very carefully, would no doubt hear voices in the next room planning to blow the eyes out of more of his nieces and nephews. Stanley Cohen, and even typing that name right now and remembering this horrible man damning his own people again and again and again, I crack a nervous smile, because they're my people, too, and, God help me, if I didn't laugh, I think I might cry.

Oddly enough, out of the three of them, the homunculus from Hamas didn't bother me at all. I mean, if you think about it, why should he bother any American? We know exactly who he is and, in a way, we should be grateful for that. Because if we're only willing to absorb their own words--nevermind their demonic deeds--he and his brethren have a perfectly uncomplicated point of view and agenda, and their clarity should give us our own clarity, and wouldn't that be refreshing? You want us dead? Well, now, isn't that a funny coincidence. Guess what we want?

My point is, if American TV calls up and wants to put these philanthropists on, who could blame them for saying, "Sure!" I can just see them bursting out laughing and slapping each other on the back. ("They're going to put us on Fox TV! I told you terror works! And I'll bet their Green Room beats the snot out of Al Jazeera. I mean, please, how many olives can you eat?") If we're stupid enough to do that, I don't blame them for taking us up on it. All they have to do is take a few minutes away from packing rusty nails around the C4, pick one of their guys who looks, relatively, the least like a vicious scumbag, borrow a suit, and send him forth to smile for the cameras. With Stanley Cohen.

But let's leave the newly-stretched Greta for a moment, as well as our friends Stanley and Ishmael (no joke, his real name). A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need. Don't thank me. I'm a giver. Here we go:

The Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation." So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs From The Same General Area Who Are In Deep Denial About Never Being Able To Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death." I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters."

Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't. They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course--that's where the real fun is--but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel--or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it--for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth, you know that's really saying something. It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.

Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.

My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshalling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab state into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.

Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations coming up against Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of supermodels who've just had their drugs taken away. However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some. After September 11 our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint. If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan. (Hey, wait a minute, that's actually not such a bad id . . . uh, that is, what a horrible thought, yeah, horrible.)

There's bad news on the losing moral weight front, and the signs are out there. Last week, the day after Secretary Powell left on his mission (whatever that was), the Los Angeles Times ran its lead editorial in one hundred percent support of the trip and the pressure he and President Bush were putting on Israel. Here's a good rule of thumb: If the Los Angeles Times thinks you're doing a great job, everything you're doing is wrong, stupid and mortally dangerous. If they think everything you're doing is wrong, stupid and mortally dangerous, you're doing a great job, and, in fact, your chances are probably very good for getting on the fast track for sainthood.

So, now, back to Greta. You know what made me mad enough to shout? You might not even think it was that big a thing.

After the show she said to these guys, "Thank you, gentlemen, for being my guests." "Gentlemen." "Guests." "My guests." That's what it's come to with these non-judgmental hosts and hostesses. Nice, huh? "Thank you, Mr. Stalin, sir, for being so gracious in giving us your valuable time." "My eternal gratitude, Chairman Mao, for taking precious moments away from your splendid Five-Year Plan and visiting with us in this most convivial way."

And I winced, and grunted, and shouted. Oh, yeah, and made that drink.

I mean, please, folks. In 1941, did reporters feel it was their duty to give equal time to Hitler and Hirohito? Would Stanley Cohen have represented them? Ok, Stanley probably would have, but would any American have stood still while he told us about it?

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Amen brother

by sheepdog Wednesday, May. 07, 2003 at 1:56 PM

The Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation." So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs From The Same General Area Who Are In Deep Denial About Never Being Able To Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death." I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters."
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It was me

by KOBE SBM Wednesday, May. 07, 2003 at 3:05 PM

I submitted the above two posts. Anyone with half a brain knows that KPC and Sheepdog are not brainwashed zionists. I, however, am.
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TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN!

by Denise A. Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 4:19 PM
fireandice00332@netscape.com 000-000-0000 Pittsburgh,Pa.

While we are defending our children,homes and with our own lives and the lives of our sons , daughters and loved ones,for those who are LOYAL and BRAVE enough to be at our defense in all that we live, breath and believe in; I do find her death a misfortune, and grieve for her family=As my father has always taught me "Take Care Of Your Own First!!" God Rest his soul.To EVERY AMERICAN SOLDIER, past and present "GOD BLESS AND WATCH OVER YOU ALL,THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH!!!! I WILL ALWAYS BE INDEBETED FOR FOR YOUR EVERY MOMENT OF INCOVENIENCE AND YOUR ETERNAL SACRIFICE." SO for those of you who enjoy a peaceful and safe nights sleep-Think long and hard who to thank. GOD PLEASE HEAR MY PRAYER-"WATCH OVER OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY DO US"
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""WATCH OVER OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY DO US"

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